When we get Jellybean will we have major flash problems ?
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Well when jelly bean comes along (likely to be end of august, I think 29th is rumoured for ota update) there will be no flash support. This is a known fact and I think its to do with tying to boost html5 use on the interent. This is what i've read and been told but it won't be too bad without flash
looks like it can be installed from a backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763805
but there will be no official support for it.
I will make a backup in titanium and install it after the update. My hope is this will allow things to be seamless whilst waiting for websites to pull their fingers out rather then having to swear at my phone when I cant get access to the content I want.
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If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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there won't be an update until at least sometime next year I wouldn't worry for a while.
The only phone get ICS directly from Google is Galaxy Nexus (and maybe Galaxy S). We have to get update from AT&T who must get update (and sit on it) from Samsung who get the ICS source from Google then make a ROM out of it.
So, official ICS for i777 is probably 6 months away. If you have custom ROMs, you won't be able to upgrade via the official process. If you rooted, you may or may not be able upgrade successfully either (it depends how much AT&T/samsung hates you).
But, I'm pretty sure official ICS ROM will be leaked months before AT&T release it. You can then download the flash to that instead of waiting for AT&T to release it. When you do that, rooted or custom ROM does not matter since it will wipe your phone clean.
The only benefit of waiting for official release is that the upgrade process won't wipe your phone clean. You get to keep all your settings and apps.
CollegeProfesor said:
If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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to answer your question, no one can be 100% sure if you will get the OTA update even if you're still running the stock rom while rooted. It should work but it may not.
Then as everyone else said, I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Our i777 has not been guaranteed an ICS update and even if it is getting it, it wont be for a long time. Long enough not to worry about that question at this point in time.
Hey Guys,
I know if I search deep enough I will likely find the answer I'm looking for but I've been unsuccessful so far and unfortunately have a tight time limit as I will be traveling abroad very soon...I'm sure this will be pretty easy to answer for the pros on here....
Anyway, Here's my question: I currently have an ATT Galaxy Note with the stock gingerbread rom installed. I've rooted the ROM and done the trick to enable Wifi tethering. I want to get the ATT ICS rom via kies on the phone but I'm not quite sure what the proper procedure is to do it without potentially causing any problems...Should I unroot the phone first? Do I have to restore back to stock? What do you recommend, thanks very much in advance for your help!
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Hey Guys,
I know if I search deep enough I will likely find the answer I'm looking for but I've been unsuccessful so far and unfortunately have a tight time limit as I will be traveling abroad very soon...I'm sure this will be pretty easy to answer for the pros on here....
Anyway, Here's my question: I currently have an ATT Galaxy Note with the stock gingerbread rom installed. I've rooted the ROM and done the trick to enable Wifi tethering. I want to get the ATT ICS rom via kies on the phone but I'm not quite sure what the proper procedure is to do it without potentially causing any problems...Should I unroot the phone first? Do I have to restore back to stock? What do you recommend, thanks very much in advance for your help!
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Backup device onto SD or PC first then,
1) Turn Off Device
2) Don't connect the device yet
3) Launch Kies on your desktop (full version)
4) Choose Tools, Firmware upgrade & initialization
a) Pull battery and enter the model name & S/N (ALL CAPS NO DASH!!)
b) Replace battery and boot into download mode
c) connect USB
d) It will prompt to initialize to original settings. Click "YES"
e) It will prompt to initialize the latest version. Click "YES"
f) It will download the firmware upgrade components (DO NOT DISCONNECT THE DEVICE!!)
5) It will prompt for firmware upgrade and initialization.
a) Click check box for reading above information
b) Click your choice if you want your information saved on Samsung Kies corporate servers.
Why would you want that crap version of ICS? We've all moved on to jelly bean
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Why would you want that crap version of ICS? We've all moved on to jelly bean
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Well, truth be told, it's for my father's Galaxy Note. I just want something stable that'll give him the least amount of problems. It's not very likely that i'll be keen to update it much... The only "mod" I'd likely do/need is the wifi-tethering hack. With that in mind, do you still recommend I go Jellybean? If so, which rom do I use...Thanks!
If you Want a stable and reliable build to travel with ....
Stay with ICS or GB stock rooted rom, IMHO
Ihmo ICS would be best for your father's phone.
JB is nice but still being developed for the ATT Note so you will get problems.
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Alright guys, thanks a lot for your help/suggestions...I really appreciate it!
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Why would you want that crap version of ICS? We've all moved on to jelly bean
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Because JB is still at alpha quality for the most part ....
And like me ....many users require a stable and reliable build to conduct their daily affairs, without the worry of random reboots, missing APN's, dropped calls, and missing functionality .
We all have "not " moved on to jelly bean, simply put...as it currently has some severe issues that must be worked out before any semblance of stable function can be had.
It will happen, just as soon as samsung releases a true JB build for the note 1...if they ever do ....g
Thanks
I had the same question... glad I didn't have to download the huge ATT stock ROM.
I'll try this method here tonight.
While downloading, I'm getting a time out... happened twice. When is the best time to do this? Server must be busy.
Finally, the procedure worked. Took ~3 hours... scared it was going to time-out again.
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Because JB is still at alpha quality for the most part ....
And like me ....many users require a stable and reliable build to conduct their daily affairs, without the worry of random reboots, missing APN's, dropped calls, and missing functionality .
We all have "not " moved on to jelly bean, simply put...as it currently has some severe issues that must be worked out before any semblance of stable function can be had.
It will happen, just as soon as samsung releases a true JB build for the note 1...if they ever do ....g
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You obviously haven't tried the PA builds. They've been stable since d-day+ 2 weeks, and with the exception of the flicker issue, and which was fixed by checking a box in the developer settings panel.
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I recently got a i717 note, and I saw on drippler that yesterday the official 4.1.2 update was released may 3 yesterday, and I was wondering if it was possible if I can get the update without having a PC, cause I don't have one at the moment, my phone isn't rooted, help plz and thanks, I have kies air btw but no pc
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I recently got a i717 note, and I saw on drippler that yesterday the official 4.1.2 update was released may 3 yesterday, and I was wondering if it was possible if I can get the update without having a PC, cause I don't have one at the moment, my phone isn't rooted, help plz and thanks, I have kies air btw but no pc
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You will need a PC. If you were rooted you could download the flashable zip and have it. But again you need a PC to root!
Sorry!
So you don't know anyone with a PC?
You don't need to be rooted to flash the zip version -- you just need CWR or TWRP.
So, have you installed a recovery?
I havn't installed recovery yet, im new to this, but do I download a recovery and then once I do this, what would I use to flash? Ty
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Another thing, I searched in clock work recovery and can't find dl link for it, if you could help with a link, thanks
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From a pure stock phone:
Plan A: Download Kies software (google for it). Install Kies software, connect phone to pc, and let the phone upgrade to 4.1.2. Phone will be pure stock JB.
Plan B: Download JB update file from development section. Download Odin3 software - find it by googling "odin3 1.85". Then run odin software, reboot phone in download mode, connect to pc, and install JB update. Phone will be pure stock JB.
Plan C: Wait a few days and you will get a software update notification. Accept the terms, and phone will update itself to pure stock JB.
If you don't have access to a pc you will have to wait a few. The last ICS update took only four days to hit the phones after the release on the world wide interweb.
I updated but its really not different than 4.0.4 ICS . . . No new features but lots of extra bloatware from at&t.
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I see u
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Will I get the update if my phone has no service? And do I need to be rooted in order to use odin? Thanks to all that helped I will wait until the update is released on my phone since I don't have a PC
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Of course you need signal for your phone to know it has an update...
No you do not need root to use Odin. In fact, you use Odin TO root.
can I get the update over WI-Fi connection is what I meant sorry.
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It is highly doubtful that this update will be released as an OTA. Better start looking for a PC or go to a friends house.
Why not, Amigo? And do you think that will leave out Canadian phones too?
Almost 800MBs is quite high for an OTA update especially since this is a totally new OS with different partitioning. More likely it will be a Kies update only. Should be no difference for Canadian versions once released. Time will tell and this is only my educated guess by experience. I know I have read that it can be received OTA but nobody that I have seen has reported it yet.
Probably right. But at&t could break the update into two parts. They did that on a big windows phone update a few years ago. Just a speculation.
I know at least telus made the ics update ota..
It's doable, not even that outlandish really, cause Going from ics to jb would be pretty much the same as gingerbread to ics...
oem roms of all 3 android versions have been relatively the same size and partitioning can be done on device within the update script.
It being possible and them doing it are different arguments though lol
I have been seeing a lot of folks talking about just going back to complete stock to install the update.
Is that the best option? Are we able to root 4.3 yet?
Do you need to reset S-off on the phone or what? I have seen a few different things out there today talking about this. My phone downloaded the update and keeps asking me to install ever so often but of course won't as I don't have the stock recovery console.
All help and info is appreciated!
I'm using Avatar ROM and my phone isn't even prompting me with the update. I'm really happy with my phone now so I'll give it a few days and wait for feedback on it.
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I'm using Avatar ROM and my phone isn't even prompting me with the update. I'm really happy with my phone now so I'll give it a few days and wait for feedback on it.
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I have just been using stock rooted as I have needed to keep my wifi calling.
I am used to Samsung's and Moto's and this is my first HTC I have worked with so the process of doing everything is a bit different.
Is there a way I can just flash stock recovery back and then install the update and be good to go?
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I have been seeing a lot of folks talking about just going back to complete stock to install the update.
Is that the best option? Are we able to root 4.3 yet?
Do you need to reset S-off on the phone or what? I have seen a few different things out there today talking about this. My phone downloaded the update and keeps asking me to install ever so often but of course won't as I don't have the stock recovery console.
All help and info is appreciated!
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You can leave s-off but you need to go back to stock Rom and recovery to receive ota. I have a link posted a link in the ota is coming thread that will help you return to stock. If you updated firmware you just need to use a usb otg and a usb mouse cause touchscreen won't work
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I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Ellcnlael said:
I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Make sure your phone is unlocked as well before you attempt any custom ROMs. To unlock search for link to Adam Outler's CASUAL on this forum. In my experience 4.3 ROMS are pretty stable. If you want to keep looted and unlocked, do not ever take ota from the vendor.
Ellcnlael said:
I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Taking an ota of anything above 4.1.2 will lock the bootloader for good right now. Flashing roms through custom recovery such as twrp or cwm of 4.3 and 4.4 is fine. Also, if you need to Odin back to stock for whatever reason only use the stock image for 4.1.2.
Oh and never update the bootloader.
Awesome, it just come in the mail. It's in great shape, and I have verified that it is rooted and running 4.1.2. During my setup, it keeps wanting to download the ota from Verizon. I force stopped it and was able to catch it before it downloaded.
Is there a way to keep Verizon from pushing uupdates or it being downloaded in the background?
EDIT: ok maybe I figured this out. I followed the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112221&page=4
I installed titanium backup, backedup sdm1.0, then uninstalled it. Is this what the majority is doing to safeguard against a forced update?
Ellcnlael said:
Awesome, it just come in the mail. It's in great shape, and I have verified that it is rooted and running 4.1.2. During my setup, it keeps wanting to download the ota from Verizon. I force stopped it and was able to catch it before it downloaded.
Is there a way to keep Verizon from pushing uupdates or it being downloaded in the background?
EDIT: ok maybe I figured this out. I followed the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112221&page=4
I installed titanium backup, backedup sdm1.0, then uninstalled it. Is this what the majority is doing to safeguard against a forced update?
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Yes. Either that or flash a custom rom when you get unlocked , most of them have it disabled
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