Ok, I'm sure going backwards on a device is just as hard as forward if there have never been drivers for it but it sure would be nice. CM7 would be an improvement. If my og wasn't so worn out I would be back on it but it's not dependable enough. (loose connection Somewere. Shuts down in my pocket sometimes).
So here is my question. Is it possible to build a gb rom without source from htc?
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I would LOOOOOOVE to put Gingerbread on my EVO LTE! As it stands right now, I've deemed my phone as a worthless POS... seriously the worst new phone experience I've ever had.
Why the hell would you ever go backwards? We have working cm10....and you want to go back to cm7?
You guys have some nuts loose, this phone is awesome
Ya this phone is excellent out of the box
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Wow really?!
Right now I am on minute 6 of a og evo to boot...
For the same reason some people stuck with xp for so long. Because it just plain works.
I really don't want to go into the reasons for not liking ics or jb. The OG run so good on Gb this updated hardware would sprout wings.
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For the same reason some people stuck with xp for so long. Because it just plain works.
I really don't want to go into the reasons for not liking ics or jb. The OG run so good on Gb this updated hardware would sprout wings.
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You realize they'd have to do all the same things to get gb running that they'll have to do for perfectly working jb. Same amount of work
Once again, why the hell would you go backwards? Pick up an og evo on Craiglist for $50
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For the same reason some people stuck with xp for so long. Because it just plain works.
I really don't want to go into the reasons for not liking ics or jb. The OG run so good on Gb this updated hardware would sprout wings.
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And this phone runs damn well on JB, plus JB is infinitely more smooth thanks to Project Butter.
If you want to do something as foolish as running an ugly, old, simpler build of Android on a phone that runs ICS and beyond flawlessly in hopes of it somehow improving the experience, I suggest you do research and figure out how to do it yourself because no one will waste time on that.
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For the same reason some people stuck with xp for so long. Because it just plain works.
I really don't want to go into the reasons for not liking ics or jb. The OG run so good on Gb this updated hardware would sprout wings.
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I feel like if this EVO were to run GB it would be worse. Too much work, no Hardware Acceleration AT ALL (Which makes a huge difference) and plus an ugly UI. If I truly felt the need to go back to that I would just flash CM7 on my DROID INC.
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No thank you
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And this phone runs damn well on JB, plus JB is infinitely more smooth thanks to Project Butter.
If you want to do something as foolish as running an ugly, old, simpler build of Android on a phone that runs ICS and beyond flawlessly in hopes of it somehow improving the experience, I suggest you do research and figure out how to do it yourself because no one will waste time on that.
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Wow I'm so glad your opinion carry so much weight. Ugly? Old? Really? EVO lte running flawlessly? Oh that'd be why it reboots playing a simple vid that was recorded from my old phone. Or why it can't keep an app in memory for 5 freaking minutes when I navigate away from it.
As for hardware acceleration. Gb didn't need it. Try running ics without it.
I didn't ask anyone to build it for me. My post plainly ask if it were possible. Maybe to spark another topic. But this bashing narrow minded xda today is exactly the reason devs leave. Just how many versions of the same damn ruu that already has problems do we need anyway. GB isn't a worse version, just different.
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For the same reason some people stuck with xp for so long. Because it just plain works.
I really don't want to go into the reasons for not liking ics or jb. The OG run so good on Gb this updated hardware would sprout wings.
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I agree I still love XP and Ginger Bread 2.3.4 lol
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Wow I'm so glad your opinion carry so much weight. Ugly? Old? Really? EVO lte running flawlessly? Oh that'd be why it reboots playing a simple vid that was recorded from my old phone. Or why it can't keep an app in memory for 5 freaking minutes when I navigate away from it.
As for hardware acceleration. Gb didn't need it. Try running ics without it.
I didn't ask anyone to build it for me. My post plainly ask if it were possible. Maybe to spark another topic. But this bashing narrow minded xda today is exactly the reason devs leave. Just how many versions of the same damn ruu that already has problems do we need anyway. GB isn't a worse version, just different.
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If you're having issues you should make sure your phone isn't defective.
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HTC should've made sure their phones weren't defective. Thousands of people complaining about the same issues can't all be wrong.
Get rid of that bloat ice works fine even on my n s 4 g
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It even runs Linux - n s 4 g
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I don't care about going back to gingerbread myself, but I would think that the source for CM7 would still be out there. I would recommend checking here, I've found it to be a valuable resource.
Yes of course source is still out there. Problem being if OP could compile AOSP from source he would know where to find it
Compiling GB would be buggy as hell on the LTEVO, and IMO a waste of time.
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That is Sense, not ICS. You have to compare stock GB to ICS before going "GB is clearly better" HTC phones have Sense on top of it and different versions of Sense affect different things. Try out the CM10 build and (apart from the obvious early build bugs) I assure you you will be impressed. Just wait it out until it becomes a fully working stock JB ROM and it will run better than a pure GB build on our device.
As far as whether it's possible to build or not, it is possible, however I doubt many devs would be interested in making this a reality considering the vast improvements that ICS and JB have over GB.
Stock ICS != Sense 4 ICS please understand that ICS is not as bad as Sense makes it and while I don't like Sense, this new version -- other than the multitasking -- is not as intrusive as previous ones.
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Gingerbread?
Op just use ftl launcher might get u what your looking for
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57402420-94/android-5.0-aka-jelly-bean-rumored-for-q3-release/
Google I/O is in Q3 so we can probably expect it by then.
Just for those of you wondering how long until Jellybean. Hopefully, if they keep releasing new versions, manufacturers will start dropping their skins so they can keep up. (I know that's never going to happen, but wishful thinking!)
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57402420-94/android-5.0-aka-jelly-bean-rumored-for-q3-release/
Google I/O is in Q3 so we can probably expect it by then.
Just for those of you wondering how long until Jellybean. Hopefully, if they keep releasing new versions, manufacturers will start dropping their skins so they can keep up. (I know that's never going to happen, but wishful thinking!)
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coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
I wonder if HTC will just give up and release just ICS for their older phones and work on Jelly Bean for their new ones
Bloody HTC, I doubt our phones will ever get an official release of this.
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Bloody HTC, I doubt our phones will ever get an official release of this.
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The Evo 4G will never and was never planned to receive ICS, and yet there are completely functioning ICS builds available for it, with working camera on top of everything else besides the obvious 4G (and maybe a few other things, I haven't followed OG Evo development since I upgraded to this phone).
Official releases aren't a huge deal unless we need them to fix something. The problem with ICS on our phones have to do with the difference between it and GB, as well as our camera. I do not foresee JB to be a big difference from ICS, kind of like Froyo to GB.
So in the end an official release won't matter as long as JB isn't a huge difference over ICS, and we can use the official ICS release in order to make sure the camera works.
You're going to be able to run JB on this phone, do not worry.
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The Evo 4G will never and was never planned to receive ICS, and yet there are completely functioning ICS builds available for it, with working camera on top of everything else besides the obvious 4G (and maybe a few other things, I haven't followed OG Evo development since I upgraded to this phone).
Official releases aren't a huge deal unless we need them to fix something. The problem with ICS on our phones have to do with the difference between it and GB, as well as our camera. I do not foresee JB to be a big difference from ICS, kind of like Froyo to GB.
So in the end an official release won't matter as long as JB isn't a huge difference over ICS, and we can use the official ICS release in order to make sure the camera works.
You're going to be able to run JB on this phone, do not worry.
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I know the phones hardware is more than capable of handling JB. And I'd agree with everything you said, but our phone has some unique needs that others don't. Like you mentioned, the 3d/camera is one of them and also Wimax. ICS has been around for quite a while and there isn't a single ICS build for our phone that is a nice stable daily driver. Getting some of our phone's features to work without the help of HTC may be a bit tough. The development scene of the Evo 3D isn't huge either, though thankfully we have many great devs.
I came to the Evo 3d from the HTC HD2, now that's a phone that seems to be able to run just about anything. Ridiculously massive development scene. It had ICS running long before many other phones and it isn't even an android phone.
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I know the phones hardware is more than capable of handling JB. And I'd agree with everything you said, but our phone has some unique needs that others don't. Like you mentioned, the 3d/camera is one of them and also Wimax. ICS has been around for quite a while and there isn't a single ICS build for our phone that is a nice stable daily driver. Getting some of our phone's features to work without the help of HTC may be a bit tough. The development scene of the Evo 3D isn't huge either, though thankfully we have many great devs.
I came to the Evo 3d from the HTC HD2, now that's a phone that seems to be able to run just about anything. Ridiculously massive development scene. It had ICS running long before many other phones and it isn't even an android phone.
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I can agree with that, mostly. What I'm trying to say is that, after a release from HTC, we hopefully won't have to worry too much about JB in the future.
Plus as long as jellybean drops within eighteen months technically we are supposed to get it .
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I would almost be happy if jelly bean would wait, I would like to see a aosp ics rom fully functional first. We haven't seen a really smooth aosp rom out of alpha yet for the 3d. Either way. Just getting tired of sense but that's just me.
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ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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A little optimistic?
ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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lol... even though they will initially anounce "early" or "first quarter" 2013!
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coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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That's when we get ics on the 3D
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People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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fpineda101 said:
That's when we get ics on the 3D
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lmao...
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bloodrain954 said:
People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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Not confirmed so I wouldn't spread it like it is.
This is a rumor at time of writing
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Jelly bean Pfft get ICS working before they come out with something else
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People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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Careful with those words as that's not even close to being confirmed...nor does it make much sense...
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sl4sh3r said:
Jelly bean Pfft get ICS working before they come out with something else
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With that I totally agree
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Even when jelly bean gets released you can easily add another 12 months onto that before there's a working evo version
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Hey guys, why are people talking about jailbait in this thread?
Well, dev's have successfully ported over some sense ROM's with higher versions of android and Sense Software. Can someone manage to port over Sense 1.0, like the OG EVO has ATM. I am willing to test everything out, it can't be that hard, right?
Sense 1.0 was the original sense on the HTC hero I believe and was android 1.5
Why would you want that?
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thre3aces said:
Sense 1.0 was the original sense on the HTC hero I believe and was android 1.5
Why would you want that?
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I believe it would be amazingly fast. (after enabling dual cores)
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I believe it would be amazingly fast. (after enabling dual cores)
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You know what? I thought of that a longgg time ago but never said anything cuz I thought I'd get flamed lol...that would be really interesting though I wonder how the battery would be too
I don't believe any version of sense below 3.0 was made for qhd devices. Therefore to port an older version of sense would require a lot of re-sizing and m10 editing I believe. I think someone would have to be really dedicated to the project to put in the time required. That being said, I think sense 2.1 would run extremely well on this phone. The downsides would be that you'd have to run gingerbread, you'd lose some features, and of course the tedious re-sizing of many of the images. The idea is interesting though!
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what about just using an AOSP rom? you get 4.0, NO overlay (so faster), and there are already people working on it.
Sense
What about using other launchers, like GO and others?
IMO a monumental waste of good development time that can be better spent with ICS and soon to be JellyBean. We did everything we could to get rid of it on the Hero as fast as possible. We ported 3.5 and never looked back.
Just my 2 pennies. If someone did put the work into it. Kudos. But I sure am not going to.
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^^hint
Let's go super retro (relatively speaking) and get a home/launcher that's like TouchFLO on the Touch Diamond 2! I thought that was awesome when I had that phone.
Windows Mobile wasn't all bad.
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Kinda agree with nineinch and drachen. If u really want to go that far back just use a senseless Rom. The android 1.5 and sense 1.0 is really such a step back that aosp should give u the speed your looking for and actually look better. And I am a huge sense fan saying this
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Ehh, not that amazing...
I've thought of this before, but in the end it's not really worth it. Sense 4 is really an improved sense 2.1.
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IMO a monumental waste of good development time that can be better spent with ICS and soon to be JellyBean. We did everything we could to get rid of it on the Hero as fast as possible. We ported 3.5 and never looked back.
Just my 2 pennies. If someone did put the work into it. Kudos. But I sure am not going to.
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^^Bring it Trent! ;p
Ok I'm still waiting for the amazing idea to be mention...:banghead:
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Read the op.............
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NineInchNails said:
Read the op.............
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He's being sarcastic ..
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You're basically asking for us to take body and engine off a Ferrari 458 and put them on a Toyota Corolla's chassis.
A) It's not that simple, B) You'd have a horrific time getting it to work and C) It most likely won't be a pleasant experience.
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You're basically asking for us to take body and engine off a Ferrari 458 and put them on a Toyota Corolla's chassis.
A) It's not that simple, B) You'd have a horrific time getting it to work and C) It most likely won't be a pleasant experience.
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Thanks!
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He's being sarcastic ..
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Sarcasm not so easily distinguishable here
Carry on.
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I've thought about pulling down the Donut branch from AOSP and testing it on these modern devices.
It was arguably the fastest Android flavor ever. I remember going to Eclair from Donut and feeling let down by the speed, requiring a faster processor.
Cool idea OP on doing Sense 1.0
I rememeber back in the OG Evo days we had a few ports of different versions of Sense. Was wondering if anyone is currently working on any. Asking because just got my replacement 3D from Assurion and updated to ICS & Sense 3.6. And I have to say WOW! It's like a whole different phone and it just reminds me just how much Sense 4 blows! No lag, real multitasking... I can't believe this is the same phone from a year ago. Sense 3.6 on the LTE would be perfect. Sense 4 is the worst creation ever.
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I rememeber back in the OG Evo days we had a few ports of different versions of Sense. Was wondering if anyone is currently working on any. Asking because just got my replacement 3D from Assurion and updated to ICS & Sense 3.6. And I have to say WOW! It's like a whole different phone and it just reminds me just how much Sense 4 blows! No lag, real multitasking... I can't believe this is the same phone from a year ago. Sense 3.6 on the LTE would be perfect. Sense 4 is the worst creation ever.
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yeah port Sense 3.6 to the EVO LTE.....ummmmm right.......:cyclops:
u send me ur LTE and keep ur 3D then and well call it a deal. lol
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yeah port Sense 3.6 to the EVO LTE.....ummmmm right.......:cyclops:
u send me ur LTE and keep ur 3D then and well call it a deal. lol
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LOL! But honestly I don't really see any improvements. Looks almost the same but 3.6 runs wayyy smoother and it has "real" multitasking. Not this pitiful excuse that HTC threw into 4. I think 3.6 with our specs would be better. Used to love Sense until this version. Guess its back to Apex and Fancy widgets.
Those sense ports were sense upgrades. Nobody spends time going backwards
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LOL! But honestly I don't really see any improvements. Looks almost the same but 3.6 runs wayyy smoother and it has "real" multitasking. Not this pitiful excuse that HTC threw into 4. I think 3.6 with our specs would be better. Used to love Sense until this version. Guess its back to Apex and Fancy widgets.
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Everything you're saying is just... wrong. 3.6 definitely wouldn't be smoother. 3.6 would not run any better on our specs than Sense 4.0 does.
I can't wait for someone to fix this multitasking so that people can stop *****ing about it. I'm seriously getting sick of it. If you don't like it, find a way to fix it yourself, run AOSP, or get a different phone. Complaining endlessly about how the multitasking isn't perfect isn't doing a damn thing. We know that it's a problem. But it seems like we have a handful of threads every day of people complaining about it. And guess what? It doesn't contribute one bit to fixing it.
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Everything you're saying is just... wrong. 3.6 definitely wouldn't be smoother. 3.6 would not run any better on our specs than Sense 4.0 does.
I can't wait for someone to fix this multitasking so that people can stop *****ing about it. I'm seriously getting sick of it. If you don't like it, find a way to fix it yourself, run AOSP, or get a different phone. Complaining endlessly about how the multitasking isn't perfect isn't doing a damn thing. We know that it's a problem. But it seems like we have a handful of threads every day of people complaining about it. And guess what? It doesn't contribute one bit to fixing it.
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+1 Seriously the people that complain about it daily need to just trade in their EVO's and get an SGS III or an iPhone
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Well in the case of this thread, the OP was using multitasking as a reason to ask whether 3.6 ports were possible. Not just to complain. And honestly, I find it to be a valid argument if the inferior EVO 3D can run 3.6 smoother than our phones run 4.0. That makes no sense!
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Well in the case of this thread, the OP was using multitasking as a reason to ask whether 3.6 ports were possible. Not just to complain. And honestly, I find it to be a valid argument if the inferior EVO 3D can run 3.6 smoother than our phones run 4.0. That makes no sense!
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It doesn't run smoother than 4.0 in our phones.
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It doesn't run smoother than 4.0 in our phones.
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Smoother doesn't just mean flicking the screen back and fourth and watching the pretty animations ...smooth to me means an app behaving like it was meant to, I.e. only having to open it one time . Oh there I go *****ing about the stock product I paid good money for not working as advertised. Thank you CMX team for pulling HTCs slack. Hey HTC, how about send them what they need to fix the camera and my phone will be perfect
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I can't wait for someone to fix this multitasking so that people can stop *****ing about it. I'm seriously getting sick of it. If you don't like it, find a way to fix it yourself, run AOSP, or get a different phone. Complaining endlessly about how the multitasking isn't perfect isn't doing a damn thing. We know that it's a problem. But it seems like we have a handful of threads every day of people complaining about it. And guess what? It doesn't contribute one bit to fixing it.
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THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.....All kinds of THIS, lol
I said this before in another thread in the Q&A section that suggested the same thing. It would be like buying a PC right now with Windows 7 and eligible for a FREE upgrade to Windows 8 when it releases, but instead wiping it out completely and putting Vista on it.
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It doesn't run smoother than 4.0 in our phones.
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
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I said this before in another thread in the Q&A section that suggested the same thing. It would be like buying a PC right now with Windows 7 and eligible for a FREE upgrade to Windows 8 when it releases, but instead wiping it out completely and putting Vista on it.
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I bought a Vista computer soon as it was released and was back on XP within a couple days? Why? Because at that time XP worked wayyyy better than Vista. Your analogy isn't right. Just because something is a upgrade doesn't mean it works better. Now eventually they got the bugs worked out of Vista and it was better but not in the begining. Which is what I am seeing with Sense 4 when compared with 3.6.
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
I bought a Vista computer soon as it was released and was back on XP within a couple days? Why? Because at that time XP worked wayyyy better than Vista. Your analogy isn't right. Just because something is a upgrade doesn't mean it works better. Now eventually they got the bugs worked out of Vista and it was better but not in the begining. Which is what I am seeing with Sense 4 when compared with 3.6.
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Sense 3.0->3.6->4.0 is not analogous with Windows XP->Vista->7.... Just saying, who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6?
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
I bought a Vista computer soon as it was released and was back on XP within a couple days? Why? Because at that time XP worked wayyyy better than Vista. Your analogy isn't right. Just because something is a upgrade doesn't mean it works better. Now eventually they got the bugs worked out of Vista and it was better but not in the begining. Which is what I am seeing with Sense 4 when compared with 3.6.
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That's why I didn't use Vista to XP as an example. If you have brand new computer right now with Windows 7 on it, and you're getting a free upgrade to Windows 8 when it releases (knowing nothing about problems that may occur), would you really take the computer and run VISTA of all operating systems? No, I wouldn't.
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Sense 3.0->3.6->4.0 is not analogous with Windows XP->Vista->7.... Just saying, who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6?
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Why isnt it? Each was an upgrade from a previous version. I don't know who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6 but I know a whole lot of people who went back to XP from Vista. The bottom line is "IMO" 3.6 runs better on the 3D than our LTE runs 4.0 Not too mention I don't see what if any real improvements 4 brought to table over 3.6. If anything it screwed stuff up. If it was possible I for one would hop back to 3.6 in a flash. You can keep this ram hogging, broken multitasking 4 version.
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Why isnt it? Each was an upgrade from a previous version. I don't know who would go back to 3.0 from 3.6 but I know a whole lot of people who went back to XP from Vista. The bottom line is "IMO" 3.6 runs better on the 3D than our LTE runs 4.0 Not too mention I don't see what if any real improvements 4 brought to table over 3.6. If anything it screwed stuff up. If it was possible I for one would hop back to 3.6 in a flash. You can keep this ram hogging, broken multitasking 4 version.
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Amen
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Someone close this thread because it's really going no where...
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Smoother doesn't just mean flicking the screen back and fourth and watching the pretty animations ...smooth to me means an app behaving like it was meant to, I.e. only having to open it one time . Oh there I go *****ing about the stock product I paid good money for not working as advertised. Thank you CMX team for pulling HTCs slack. Hey HTC, how about send them what they need to fix the camera and my phone will be perfect
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Well then, smooth to you means differently to what smooth actually means.
And it's not that it's wrong to complain about something that isn't perfect about a phone. But we know that it's a problem. That doesn't mean we have to like it. That doesn't mean that it isn't a bad thing. But complaining about it endlessly serves absolutely no purpose.
"Not working as advertised" is also a misguided statement, as it was never advertised that the phone would be completely perfect and devoid of software errors that can presumably be fixed.
It's the complaining that has to stop. Every single member of this forum is aware of the multitasking issue. It's been discussed to hell and back. It's time to acknowledge that we're all aware of this and either try to find a way to fix it or just shut up about it.
And I find it humorous how 9 out of 10 people here rant and rave about how they don't need stock and the developers here are better than HTC and so on and so forth but they'll still complain about problems that a stock phone has. You have different ways of dealing with this problem and you have the tools to prevent this from happening (for example, AOSP) and yet you still complain. And again, that solves nothing.
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
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Yeah, I have. And I'm saying that you are wrong.
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Have you actually played around with a updated 3D running 3.6 & ICS? Didn't think so. I installed the same apps on both phones & have been testing it out for the past few hours & I can say without a doubt that the 3D is wayyyy smother than the LTE running 4. Not just flicking the screen but opening apps and all around performance.
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I would be a pretty penny that someone on either this site or on Craigslist is willing to trade you an EVO 3D for your EVO 4G LTE if you want to go that route. The fact of the matter is, the developers we have probably aren't going to waste a lot of time (that, in all fairness, will be required) trying to develop a downgraded version of Sense for this phone. Unless you can convince one of the developers that it's a good idea, or pay him/her to make this request possible, you'll need to learn to code it yourself and make it work. The majority of this board is anticipating Android 4.1 with whatever new perks HTC throws in when that update arrives, not about adding a last-gen overlay to a next-gen device.
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I would be a pretty penny that someone on either this site or on Craigslist is willing to trade you an EVO 3D for your EVO 4G LTE if you want to go that route. The fact of the matter is, the developers we have probably aren't going to waste a lot of time (that, in all fairness, will be required) trying to develop a downgraded version of Sense for this phone. Unless you can convince one of the developers that it's a good idea, or pay him/her to make this request possible, you'll need to learn to code it yourself and make it work. The majority of this board is anticipating Android 4.1 with whatever new perks HTC throws in when that update arrives, not about adding a last-gen overlay to a next-gen device.
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Fair enough. That was the original point of the post anyway. Seeing if it was possible to port another version of Sense. Then everyone got up in arms like they personally coded Sense 4 and was somehow offended because it is extremely flawed. Oh and if the HTC perks are anything like what we got with ICS on this phone I wouldn't hold my breath.
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http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/ Looks like we're hopefully getting JB after all
then consider our ability to provide updates to products from 2011.
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You reading the same thing I am, or are you projecting?
Not necessarily.... we meet the spec requirements, but they said that devices from 2011 would be met with consideration. Not exactly a guarantee. Plus, if we got sense 3.6 in the last update because our phone "couldn't handle" sense 4, why would they then update us to sense 4+? Okay, I'm ending my pessimistic post of the day now.
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It would be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath
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I hope that we do get JB, but considering the Thunderbolt is still waiting for ICS, I can't say that I am too optimistic.
But HTC phones will sometimes get two upgrades. The incredible did.
It's really up to Verizon to let it through, I would think. So it's more of a maybe, but I'm not so optimistic that it will happen. Hopefully the Rezound will get JB, though. I'd love me some stock Sense 4 for a change.
Not to be a pessimist, but I feel that there is pretty much 0 chance we'll get an official jb update. There weren't enough rezounds sold for HTC to care, and vzw makes it even harder on them. They aren't going to go through the effort. All the focus is on s4 devices . I'm crossing my fingers that any msm8660 device gets a JB update from HTC so we can pull from it.
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Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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He meant 2 android version bumps. The Dinc has had like 1,000 minor updates
I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Yeah I know. Sorry if I came off as hateful or anything. I guess I was just curious as to how anyone who read that statement would interpret it to mean that they were most likely gonna update the Rez to JB.
I got the opposite impression. Guess it's just a glass half-full/empty thing. :beer:
If they did upgrade us to a JB (not Justin Bieber) then I'd be beyond excited and looking forward to what awesome surprises our glorious devs here would be able to come up with.
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I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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hey i see in your signature thing that youre underclocked and undervolted. does that -150 make a big difference in battery life?
An update to JB would convince me to buy another HTC device instead of going back to Samsung. I miss the OLED screen.
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Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Could be wrong but have to agree, sense 5 may take a little while longer to get rolling, but there other roms that just dropped. Im a big supporter of utkaar99's work here. If you like sense try his HatkaLTE or his Rage ROM. If you like AOSP ,take a look at jaimeg's threads. Still some stuff happening here just a little slow right now. As far as the One, its true we're loosing some folks to that forum, but thats how it works here at xda. I mysrlf was going to get a One or the samsung 4 but decided to hold, mainly just to see how long this forum will last. Hope its like the Heroc was, even in low activity it still pushed on. Same with the Evo4G, still hangin in there 3D is the same, still going strong. We may pick up some of theirs in the future hopefully. Just gotta hang tough.
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It isn't like the days of the original evo. I always had a new Rom to play with and so I wait patiently 4 the next big rom release. I refuse to use a Rom that doesn't have full functionalities. I need my phone to just work so I am staying on mean bean until something worthy replaces it. I do love viper Rom as well.
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I know viper is working on something that will allow mods and roms for the one on other carriers to work on the Sprint variant and vice versa. One development is about to explode. That said we still have some quality roms here in lte land. If you have the time, you can learn to develop and theme.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Don't forget to hit the thanks button. When this phone came out there were still a lot of developers working on EVO 3D ROM's.
tonyevo52 said:
Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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I'd like to keep it for the 2 years like the ogevo. But I don't know if it will make it.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
I think in this new world of quickly progressing smartphones there are a couple of options for xda'ers. One, upgrade yearly to stay with the new device that gets all the attention.
The second option is the progression that this site fosters. Users learn and build their abilities to create by themselves. Many of the past leaders of EvoLTE have left a legacy of development here that can be built upon. Fortunately, the vast majority of the devs around here will gladly allow another person to take over the reigns and continue a build- or even make it thier own creation.
The site was named xdadevelopers. The purpose for the site is to allow users to learn to be developers. All the tools are here.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
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Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Something else to consider is that Android 5 (Key Lime) is on the horizon and may be announced at Google I/O in a couple of weeks. A major OS rev often stokes new inspiration for devs and hopefully we'll see ports of Key Lime ROMS to the EVO LTE (e.g. CM, Key Lime based Sense, etc.).
It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
I'd much rather have more kernel development than rom personally. I'm learning more and more each day the true capability of the hardware and which software elements dampen it's potential. We have a huge hd screen and dual core I could really care less about the One and sense 5. Like someone else said it can't do much more than viper. I'm testing the AOSP waters for now and loving Slim Bean currently.
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It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Damnit man, LOL Beat me to it again bro. ,,,,,,
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It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Just look in the development threads. There are still a lot of really great roms still being worked on.
Yes a few have left but many still have this phone and many more will probably pick it up second hand or now that it's becoming really cheap on sprint.
For ask those worried why don't you go and read a few how-tos and start doing your own thing.
I really hate these threads. They always happen and never produce something good. Just lame really.
Naters
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Try themikmik.com nice roms there
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