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Can someone post all available frequencies(the voltage for lower than 600MHz and how much battery will it take comparing to the lower frequencies, eg 864 takes "x" battery more than 844)
Is there safe to use 864, and does it take to much battery, or not?
Thanks a lot
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frequencies below 600: 122, 245, 320, 480 (all of these use the same voltage)
frequencies above 600: 652, 672, 691, 710, 729, 748, 768, 787, 806 (the difference in battery varies depending on your governor and usage but generally, the higher the frequency the more battery it eats)
stability-wise, the only thing that can go wrong when you oc to 864 is a kernel panic. other than that it should be safe to use. however, in the long run i think it can harm your cpu (and yes it does use a lot of battery)
this is my understanding. if someone does not agree, feel free to point out what you believe is wrong
yep sweetnsour is right ...
All that can be added to what sweetnsour said is that there are three more frequencies over 600: 825, 844 and 864 MHz. But the chances for our CPU to be stable at any frequency above 806 MHz are very low.
Another notable side-effect to the overclock, beside quick battery depleting, is CPU overheating. I found my CPU to be stable at 806, but I went back to 729 just because the phone warmed up so much faster. At 729, I sense no difference compared to 600 MHz.
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All that can be added to what sweetnsour said is that there are three more frequencies over 600: 825, 844 and 864 MHz. But the chances for our CPU to be stable at any frequency above 806 MHz are very low.
Another notable side-effect to the overclock, beside quick battery depleting, is CPU overheating. I found my CPU to be stable at 806, but I went back to 729 just because the phone warmed up so much faster. At 729, I sense no difference compared to 600 MHz.
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Yes a rooted with other tuning needs no oc, but what is thr highest that will not harm anything on a long term...
And does 122-480MHz really have same voltage?
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Yes a rooted with other tuning needs no oc, but what is thr highest that will not harm anything on a long term...
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This is highly subjective, no one can tell for sure, except maybe the manufacturer. Buy in theory you should be safe with any frequency at which your CPU is stable and does not overheat. You will sell or trash the phone long before the overclock will affect anything.
And remember: the CPU spends a fairly low amount of time at the high frequency; most of the time it will fall back to the minimum, as long as there are no tasks requiring high processing power.
As far as I could gather in the 10 months I spent on this forum, the community agreed that 729 MHz is the most convenient value.
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This is highly subjective, no one can tell for sure, except maybe the manufacturer. Buy in theory you should be safe with any frequency at which your CPU is stable and does not overheat. You will sell or trash the phone long before the overclock will affect anything.
And remember: the CPU spends a fairly low amount of time at the high frequency; most of the time it will fall back to the minimum, as long as there are no tasks requiring high processing power.
As far as I could gather in the 10 months I spent on this forum, the community agreed that 729 MHz is the most convenient value.
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Yes, 728hz is the best value for performance and battery.
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Yes, 728hz is the best value for performance and battery.
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This flocking app needs thanks button...
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So the perfect is 480--729 SmartassV2 thanks...
Btw is the voltage really the same from 122 to 480?
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So the perfect is 480--729 SmartassV2 thanks...
Btw is the voltage really the same from 122 to 480?
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I personally dont use Smartassv2 as it has some wakelock problems, so try different governors and find out which works best for you.
Btw, you are using the wrong kernel for your rom(6.5.8), you should be using fserve kernel or 4 Sept kernel by Franco (.32).
Yaa 480--729 is the perfect.Above 768 phone becomes unstable.
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Yaa 480--729 is the perfect.Above 768 phone becomes unstable.
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And below 480 is same ****? I mean it won't do anything good to battery right?
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And below 480 is same ****? I mean it won't do anything good to battery right?
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Exactly!
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Exactly!
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Oh ye I got it *cool*
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Hey my is..
806/600 scary
But before 2 months i cant even overclock 768...how now 806??
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becuase governor is scary
Ohh...wen i removed my charger after 10 sec it gaved panic..ithink 768/480 is proper for me...nd can u give me details about the governer plz
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all using Smartass governer??
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all using Smartass governer??
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Smartassv2 cuz v1 its like a petformance governor, only at max cpu... v2 goes down when screen off...
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Smartassv2 cuz v1 its like a petformance governor, only at max cpu... v2 goes down when screen off...
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No true, smartass also caps when screen off
I'm curious as to which voltages people are using who choose to undervolt their device. I know I've seen some scattered posts around but am yet to see a thread, if I'm wrong feel free to close this one and direct me to the thread.
Mine are:
1200 mHz
1200 mV
1000 mHz
1100 mV
800 mHz
1000 mV
500 mHz
900 mV
200 mHz
900 mV
I made very small drops over stock as I'm pretty new to it so I didn't want to risk going to low.
I'm on UnNamed 2.2.1 with Entropy 12/08/2011 and CPU set to 1200-200 mHz on demand.
I'm trying to get an idea for what people run for the best mix of battery life and performance.
1700Mhz @ 1500mV
1400Mhz @ 1275mV
1200Mhz @ 1175mV
1000Mhz @ 1075mV
800Mhz @ 975mV
500Mhz @ 875mV
200Mhz @ 850mV
I havent done a whole lot of tweaking to find my optimal settings. Im hoping to have time to play with Zep's 3g turbocharger to see what i can squeeze out of my data with different modems. Im also about to move to UnNamed 2.2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19826653
Is probably what you want.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19826653
Is probably what you want.
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That is a good one, thank you.
But I'm hoping to get a voltage specific one. Your link is a full SetCPU thread.
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1200mhz - 1250mV
1000mhz - 1125mV
800mhz - 1025mV
500mhz - 900mV
200mhz - 850mV
100mhz - 825mV
I'm thinking I could go another -25mv across the board still.
There isn't a thread because you are supposed to figure out the settings yourself. EVERY DEVICE IS DIFFERENT. What works great for one person may crash another's device, what is just barely stable on one person's device may be far from optimal on another.
If every device were the same, THE STOCK VOLTAGES WOULD BE LOWER.
I was about to say the same thing ^^
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What app do you use to undervolt? Set CPU?
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What app do you use to undervolt? Set CPU?
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Voltage control
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Entropy512 said:
There isn't a thread because you are supposed to figure out the settings yourself. EVERY DEVICE IS DIFFERENT. What works great for one person may crash another's device, what is just barely stable on one person's device may be far from optimal on another.
If every device were the same, THE STOCK VOLTAGES WOULD BE LOWER.
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These values provide a baseline for others to start from. I never guessed I could go down to 825mv until I saw another thread on the i9100 section. But I understand your point of view as well.
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I agree with Entropy but like the previous post said, I'm hoping for an idea of where people are at with theirs. I'm not hoping for 100% definitive values that work all the time every time.
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Yeah, still useful and interesting to observe others' settings in my opinion.
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Seems to be working smoothly for me. I have 1600, 1400, and 1200 disabled
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What's the stock minimum frequency for the Xperia S? 384?
Is 192 too low and cause problems?
Thanks
192 is the minimum but 384 is the default value.
Yes it will cause freeze and reboot for some phones.
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I'll leave it at 384 then
Not really low! X8 minimum cpu frequency is 19mhz! Not kidding
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Not really low! X8 minimum cpu frequency is 19mhz! Not kidding
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He's talking about xps and the minimum is 192 for now
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I've been with 192 for a while and the battery last a little longer. No problems
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I've been with 192 for a while and the battery last a little longer. No problems
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Yes but the problem that not all the phones can run it,some may have freezing and reboots,same as overclocking.
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I use 192 with governor ondemand in setcpu.
Phone seems to be pretty fine to me.
I set it to 192 conservative when screen is off.
Too low, and you get lag and random reboots.
I think set cpu frequency as low as possible. It won't freeze ur phone unless u set powersave govenor as it keep the phone running at minimum frequency, and that would cause some troubles. Other govenors are smart! No need to worry as long as it need more frequency it wouldn't drop to minimum! But it will when it's in idle state. I even did undervolt to 750mv which should be 800mv! Still run fine!
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I think set cpu frequency as low as possible. It won't freeze ur phone unless u set powersave govenor as it keep the phone running at minimum frequency, and that would cause some troubles. Other govenors are smart! No need to worry as long as it need more frequency it wouldn't drop to minimum! But it will when it's in idle state. I even did undervolt to 750mv which should be 800mv! Still run fine!
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Any way (module or something) we can undervolt with stock kernel rooted?
In Xperia X8 that was possible before the bootloader was unlockable
I don't think we have it now. Until dev decided to do it! We've got kernels source from sony, it's not a big deal. The question is that who will do it!
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192 is the minimum but 384 is the default value.
Yes it will cause freeze and reboot for some phones.
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I set mine to 192 and never had any problems. My suggestion is try it first.
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Well what are you over clock preferred settings. Mine are min: 1.024 and Max: 1.92 governor: smartassV2 I/O scheduler: deadline.
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I run 1.22 Max and 245 min. Its bad for the CPU to be clocked the way you are.
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Max 1.4 gHz - Min 250 mHz
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Well what are you over clock preferred settings. Mine are min: 1.024 and Max: 1.92 governor: smartassV2 I/O scheduler: deadline.
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What's your battery life like? And as stated above, that can't be good for the processor.
Excessive heat is the worst thing you can do to a processor.
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ArmyAg08 said:
Max 1.4 gHz - Min 250 mHz
What's your battery life like? And as stated above, that can't be good for the processor.
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Its been pretty bad I guess that's why I just changed to Max 1.408 and min: 368
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jonah1234 said:
Its been pretty bad I guess that's why I just changed to Max 1.408 and min: 368
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Oc really isn't even necessary on liquid ics. You'll never notice the difference if you out it back down to stock.
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Oc really isn't even necessary on liquid ics. You'll never notice the difference if you out it back down to stock.
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How is he overclocking on a ics rom anyways since we dont have kernel source I didnt think we could overclock ics roms yet.
I overclock to 1.2 ghz max and minimum either 245 or 368 mhz.
My battery life is pretty good, I'm running AOKP
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How is he overclocking on a ics rom anyways since we dont have kernel source I didnt think we could overclock ics roms yet.
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The kernel is a modified gb kernel. It has oc capabilities.
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Excessive heat is the worst thing you can do to a processor.
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I've heard that's actually second to voltage.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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I've heard that's actually second to voltage.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Yea I could see voltage being a major issue for a processor. If the voltage is to high it would heat the processor up though. Soooooo..... you're right back to heat being a huge factor.
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What speeds and settings could I safely use to conserve battery?
I'm new to clocking.
I just want long lasting battery life.
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Leave the speeds stock and undervolt. When undervolting don't ever check save for boot or whatever until you are certain those settings won't cause you problems. If you undervolt to low it will reboot your phone. Go to high and it could overheat but I doubt you will need to do that for any reason. I would start with a -50 uv and see if it is stable for a few hours. If you think its good -25 to all for a few more. I usually can't get below -75 across all voltages but every phone is different so some people can go -100.
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Leave the speeds stock and undervolt. When undervolting don't ever check save for boot or whatever until you are certain those settings won't cause you problems. If you undervolt to low it will reboot your phone. Go to high and it could overheat but I doubt you will need to do that for any reason. I would start with a -50 uv and see if it is stable for a few hours. If you think its good -25 to all for a few more. I usually can't get below -75 across all voltages but every phone is different so some people can go -100.
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Can I do this with setcpu?
Or would you recommend a different app?
Because when I started setcpu, it set me on 1036MHz max and 245MHz min. and the governor is set on lagfree, and then the scheduler is set on deadline.
Not really sure what to do here... lol.
Forgive me... like I said, I'm new to clocking.
I haven't touched anything since I started the app.. I was too concerned to.
It's not set on boot yet.
There's also a page for profiles and another for the governor... both of which are have me looking at them as if I were one of the three stooges looking at a supercomputer.
I have no idea what to do.
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Use incredicontrol. It's easier to use and profiles don't help much anyway. I would setup as 1024 max 245 min smartassv2 governor deadline scheduler -50 - -75 undervolt across the board.
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Use incredicontrol. It's easier to use and profiles don't help much anyway. I would setup as 1024 max 245 min smartassv2 governor deadline scheduler -50 - -75 undervolt across the board.
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It's not giving me a 1024 max.
It jumps from 960000MHz to 1036800 MHz max. and then the min. is set to 245760MHz.
Next tab (SVS) has 850 in the box on the right all the way from 24576MHz to 245760MHz. Has 875 in the box beside 368640MHz, then 900 beside 768000MHz and so on.
Are you saying that in those small boxes on the right beside the xxx MHz I should lower that number by 50 all the way down to what I set the max to be?
Say from where it says 850 all the way from 24576MHz to 245760MHz, I should change that 850 to 800? And just -50 from every one all the way up the the MHz that I set as the max?
Wow, I hope I didn't just confuse you.
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What kernel are you using? The CPU and voltage table will vary with kernels.
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I'm running Gingeritis 3D v1.2 and running ziggy's kernel that comes with it.
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I am over locked to 1400 Max and 245min. Gives me nice battery life and great speed. ESP with the new Liquid ICS v.1.5 MR3
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Running Jester's AOSP ICS MR3 ROM, with SetCPU allowing from 245-1408. I have a custom profile for screen off to allow only up to 768 as well.
I just wanted to ask people because many kernels force 1.15 GHZ frequency and I wanted to ask people what do you think about it,is it safe or not and did anyone do stress test with SetCPU and is phone overheating with it.
Thanks,XperianPro.
It can do damage after a certain time. If you have it set for a long time on that frequency it will overheat! It is safe but as long as you don't use always use it. You should use it only to speed up some tasks! There is a reason why they have chosen not to set it as max frequency on stock rom.
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It can do damage after a certain time. If you have it set for a long time on that frequency it will overheat! It is safe but as long as you don't use always use it. You should use it only to speed up some tasks! There is a reason why they have chosen not to set it as max frequency on stock rom.
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the same ideal with u, i dont think it wll be safe for a long -time using.
I think Your CPU will be damaged when u used 1.15Ghz for a long time day to day
if the voltage used for getting 1.15ghz is the same as 1.0ghz then there is no difference...any heating up will be a minimal increase over the stock, if any
if voltage is higher...then i would imagine it would have an affect after some time as others stated
15% overclock is a joke, my Galaxy Mini was overclocked over 40% (from 600MHz to 864MHz, but i used 800MHz almost all the time), was hot like hell and still works fine now after almost 2 years and shows no signs of stopping
Unless you want your phone to last 20 years, YES, 1.15GHz is perfectly fine by me.
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15% overclock is a joke, my Galaxy Mini was overclocked over 40% (from 600MHz to 864MHz, but i used 800MHz almost all the time), was hot like hell and still works fine now after almost 2 years and shows no signs of stopping
Unless you want your phone to last 20 years, YES, 1.15GHz is perfectly fine by me.
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thats because Galaxy mini was Downclocked by samsung
other samsung devices wich have exactly the same cpu gpu are 800mhz at stock
and they can be ocd to 970MHz
galaxy mini can run those 800 mhz freqs easily because they downclocked the device
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thats because Galaxy mini was Downclocked by samsung
other samsung devices wich have exactly the same cpu gpu are 800mhz at stock
and they can be ocd to 970MHz
galaxy mini can run those 800 mhz freqs easily because they downclocked the device
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That CPU on that board was designed to run at 600MHz, so you can't call it a downclocked CPU. Galaxy Ace and Mini had the same chipset, but the CPU itself wasn't completely the same. Not all Galaxy Minis where able to go 800MHz+
Same could be said for our Xperia U, Galaxy S2 has a dual-core Cortex A9 CPU running at 1.2GHz, so does that make our CPU downclocked? Ofcourse it doesn't, because the SoC is completely different, although the cores might be the same.
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thats because Galaxy mini was Downclocked by samsung
other samsung devices wich have exactly the same cpu gpu are 800mhz at stock
and they can be ocd to 970MHz
galaxy mini can run those 800 mhz freqs easily because they downclocked the device
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I have some Questions
How can u call it a downclock when it supposed to be 600 mhz as I know
And why could Samsung downclock the phone it is better to make it 800MHZ then
I think overclock is different between all chipset
Just like snabdragon and and our ****tyThor cpu
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I have some Questions
How can u call it a downclock when it supposed to be 600 mhz as I know
And why could Samsung downclock the phone it is better to make it 800MHZ then
I think overclock is different between all chipset
Just like snabdragon and and our ****tyThor cpu
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the phones with same cpu are all running 800mhz at default but because mini and fit where low end phones they downclocked the cpus
so the people who wanted faster phone buyes phone with more mhz
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the phones with same cpu are all running 800mhz at default but because mini and fit where low end phones they downclocked the cpus
so the people who wanted faster phone buyes phone with more mhz
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That's how you make money! :sly:
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15% overclock is a joke, my Galaxy Mini was overclocked over 40% (from 600MHz to 864MHz, but i used 800MHz almost all the time), was hot like hell and still works fine now after almost 2 years and shows no signs of stopping
Unless you want your phone to last 20 years, YES, 1.15GHz is perfectly fine by me.
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B**** please, my Galaxy 3 was overclocked from 667 MHz to 1400 MHz and it still works
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it is safe enough, my old xperia play was running at 1.8 ghz all the time, and it just works fine, till the screen broke (dropped the phone)
that cpu was designed to run at 1,0 ghz.
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it is safe enough, my old xperia play was running at 1.8 ghz all the time, and it just works fine, till the screen broke (dropped the phone)
that cpu was designed to run at 1,0 ghz.
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Well my old live with walkman worked to on 2.0 GHz but I could feel overheat remember that this is Novathor not Qualcomm.
So anyone brave enough to test phone with stresstest on 1.15 GHz for about two hours?
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There are kernel that boost cpu to 1.3 ghz... so 1.15ghz is safe for me
I read somewhere, that max safe frequency for NovaThor U8500 is 1,2 Ghz. So 1,15 Ghz should be safe enough.
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It's safe i'm using my phone for almost 2 weeks at 1,15 Ghz and not a signle problem, not even overheat! I say it's 99.9% safe.
I am using 1.15ghz from about 3 months and no problems at all
I have been using 1.15 ghz for months now and I play games quite frequently and it has been safe and stable for me
I Think that the Novathor U8500 in focus, can be easly OC to 1.15 GHz without having particular trouble in fact of stability or hw issues, as it is capable of a theorical max of 1.2 GHZ ( as seen in some websites on fast google search "NovaThor U8500 max freq" )
.Hoping this is real, remember that this may affect nor the voltage but the steps that the governor has to do before reach the 1.15 GHz. Some good kernel, as most of the JB Designed kernel are set by default to max 1.15GHz.