Has any one bought one of these yet ? - HTC Amaze 4G

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-t-mobile-htc-amaze-4g-with-battery-door.html
I am quite poor but desperately need better battery life as i am pulling 12hr shift's and my battery dies around the 7-8 hr mark.
i would appreciate being pointed to any ones review's on this product.
Ty
With the weird connecter on this phone who makes a durable car charger for it ?

Truck'nfool said:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-t-mobile-htc-amaze-4g-with-battery-door.html
I am quite poor but desperately need better battery life as i am pulling 12hr shift's and my battery dies around the 7-8 hr mark.
i would appreciate being pointed to any ones review's on this product.
Ty
With the weird connecter on this phone who makes a durable car charger for it ?
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reflash the RUU at 100% battery, and see if you still have problems
I'd rather get a powerskin with an external battery that I can choose to use or not(or remove)... but the powerskin won't be as efficient as you need to convert from 4.2V->5V(USB) back to 4.2V

paperWastage said:
reflash the RUU at 100% battery, and see if you still have problems
I'd rather get a powerskin with an external battery that I can choose to use or not(or remove)... but the powerskin won't be as efficient as you need to convert from 4.2V->5V(USB) back to 4.2V
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How I am using my phone is like this, pick up off charger phone has full charge, go to work, listen to music from phone, once I arrive at work I put it into airplane mode (this I believe kill's all the radio's ) then use the phone as an mp3 player every once and a while waking up the screen to pause etc. the battery is the original that came with the phone I got this phone like on the 2nd day it was available from T mobile. I am sure the battery by now should be suffering from constant use. I have the full version of juice defender and I have that killing everything I can think of to save power.
I can't remember the name of the ics rom I have on it now but I did install the new graphics driver as well. the phone is rooted ,s-off and has super cid.
I am waiting for a newer stable ics rom with jellybean hopefully with a kernel that I can play around with under clocking.
With my current financial situation i can't afford to make a mistake on this purchase so I am being extra paranoid about checking all my options, thank you for your suggestion.

Haven't used that particular battery, but used mugen with g2 and didn't notice much of a difference. It was 1800 instead of 1200
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hello mate! i would suggest getting rid of sense as much as possible there are about at least 3 senseless roms out there,or at least the launcher, it uses to much resource with all the pretty animations and widgets! but there is something wrong with you phone somehow, i get up in the morning around 8 and go to work with my phone fully charged, listen music in the car for about 40 mnts until i get to work! after things settle down i watch at least 3 50 minutes video on netflix, youtube, play listen to music again, i'm on fb, instagram, skype chatting with some friends outside the country, texting and a little more, back to listen to music on my way back home, by 6 o'clock i'm with 30% or so! i'm running energy stock look rom, tweaked with ultrasmooth rosie, and the only widget i have running is the clock and music with 3 home screens! good luck
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batteries like those usually are a completely rip-off, so watch out!

Mugen is not a rip off dude.
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Truck'nfool said:
How I am using my phone is like this, pick up off charger phone has full charge, go to work, listen to music from phone, once I arrive at work I put it into airplane mode (this I believe kill's all the radio's ) then use the phone as an mp3 player every once and a while waking up the screen to pause etc. the battery is the original that came with the phone I got this phone like on the 2nd day it was available from T mobile. I am sure the battery by now should be suffering from constant use. I have the full version of juice defender and I have that killing everything I can think of to save power.
I can't remember the name of the ics rom I have on it now but I did install the new graphics driver as well. the phone is rooted ,s-off and has super cid.
I am waiting for a newer stable ics rom with jellybean hopefully with a kernel that I can play around with under clocking.
With my current financial situation i can't afford to make a mistake on this purchase so I am being extra paranoid about checking all my options, thank you for your suggestion.
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if you really can, try to reflash the RUU(charge your phone to 100% first).... this resets your phone entirely (radio, ROM, kernel)
I had that battery problem when I got my phone from someone else: less than 8 hours of uptime even without much screen-on use... I installed the Energy ROM and faux kernel, didn't fix it
now, after reflashing RUU, then installing Energy ROM and faux, my battery is better than before... 15 hours uptime with 1-2 hours use...
if I don't use it and keep it on standby-idle, i'm sure it,ll stretch more than 2 days
(55%, only about 15 minutes of screen-on use, data on, autosync on)
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if you really can, try to reflash the RUU(charge your phone to 100% first).... this resets your phone entirely (radio, ROM, kernel)
I had that battery problem when I got my phone from someone else: less than 8 hours of uptime even without much screen-on use... I installed the Energy ROM and faux kernel, didn't fix it
now, after reflashing RUU, then installing Energy ROM and faux, my battery is better than before... 15 hours uptime with 1-2 hours use...
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I don't understand what flashing the RUU means. I will look around on the forums to learn what that means, or if you would tell me I would appreciate it.

Truck'nfool said:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-t-mobile-htc-amaze-4g-with-battery-door.html
I am quite poor but desperately need better battery life as i am pulling 12hr shift's and my battery dies around the 7-8 hr mark.
i would appreciate being pointed to any ones review's on this product.
Ty
With the weird connecter on this phone who makes a durable car charger for it ?
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Just buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh...345472451&sr=1-3&keywords=1900mah+anker+amaze
2 1900 mah batteries with an external charger, charge the spare and your phone every night, put the spare in when the battery dies.. MOST of us have these batteries, they are a little higher capacity than stock- the ONLY issue I have read and experienced, the first 10% goes quickly.. but overall it always outlasts the stock battery.
Plus, that is $30 for those batteries, rather than $100 for the one you posted.
Plus stalk the posts I make, I've posted plenty of ways to increase battery life.. and if you can figure out what paperwastage was saying(hint:look at the bible posted in my signature for EVERYTHING you need to know), it will make a big difference. Plus, if you are in airplane mode while at work and have big drain, that means some app is running rampant in the background, keeping your phone from "deep sleep". Get an app called betterbatterystats(paid on market, free if you find it on XDA, but worth the money) and after a days use(BEFORE you plug in or switch batteries), look at the top apps listed when you select "partial wakelock" and "since unplugged"- whatever the top apps are are the ones keeping your phone awake all the time.. either change the settings of those apps, or remove them if you don't NEED them as that means they are poorly written.
Without getting super technical and by stalking my threads, the bible in my signature, and using betterbatterystats, you MAY not need new batteries anyways.. but having a spare fully charged battery gives you a freedom that you really deserve anyways.

You can buy extended batteries and multiples of them with a charger. You can also buy external battery packs/chargers (amazon search for Anker Astro). They are a bulkier solution but versatile as in they can charge almost anything that takes a usb plug.
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Was being cheap and trying to wait for price to drop but has stayed the same. Now $30 doesnt seem so bad

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anker battery available

anker looks like they made a battery for the amaze. I had a good experience with there sensation battery.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Exten...353379?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4ab00f01a3
Anyone order yet
ebocioj said:
anker looks like they made a battery for the amaze. I had a good experience with there sensation battery.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Exten...353379?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4ab00f01a3
Anyone order yet
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That's not a real Amaze Battery... look at the posting info, it's only 3.7V. the Amaze comes with a 3.8V battery. Just use your old Anker sensation battery. it's the same thing.
I would really like to know if its worth getting since the stock battery is anorexic... and how would 3.7 volts affect the phone. Can it break it?
The phone will be undervolted which isn't bad seeing as how many kernels offer undervoltage
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I email Anker and asked them about the voltage difference...
Hello, I have a quick question about the battery for the HTC Amaze 4G.
The OEM battery from HTC is listed as 3.8 volts, but your battery is listed as 3.7. Is there a reason why your battery has a lower voltage?
Could this affect the operation of my phone?
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Their response was...
Thank you for contacting us.
I just heard back from our tech team that there is no actual performance difference between 3.7v and 3.8 v and it will not affect the performance of the battery.
Please do not worry about it.
Please let us know if there is anything else we may help. Any time you need us, we are always here.
Sincerely,
Apple
Customer Service
Laptopmate
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I don't have a problem with that response. Since all of the components in the phone run at either 3.3v or 1.7v, that .1 of volt should have no affect on the operation of the phone.
If for some reason it does, just return it. They are reputable and have been selling for awhile.
It's not like they are selling these out of the back of a van.
Off Anker topic... But if it's a 3.8v 1730mAH battery, then it's the exact same as the Evo 3D isn't it?
Anker battery
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M19IZU
I bought the anker battery and charger from Amazon and in all honesty the battery seems to work much better than the OEM one provided by HTC. 1800mAh and seems to provide a good backup battery. The external charger is a neat touch since one does not have to charge the batteries through the one all the time.
I just purchased two Anker batteries with a charger combo for $12.
Here's the link:
http://amzn.com/B005M19IZU
At first I thought that it sounded too good to be true but for $12 it's worth the risk.
It arrived today and at first glance I had a bit of buyers remorse because the charger didn't have any instructions and the charging pins seemed to move around too freely. It just felt cheap overall. The two batteries that it came with say that they are for the EVO 3D 4G as 3.7v and 1800mAh. Yet I let the batteries charge and I daringly put it in my phone. Voila! Powered right up and works just as well as the OEM battery. I haven't drained it yet so I have no idea on how long the battery will last. My expectations? 180 mAh 3.7v battery vs the 1730mAh 3.8v OEM battery... I'm not expecting too much difference to be honest. I'll keep you all posted with an edit in say about 48 hours.
A premature opinion if you ask for it... is it a viable solution for a primary battery? I wouldn't think so.
Is it a viable solution as a backup since we can't charge via 5.0.2.6 recovery? You're damn right!
Another note:
Not sure if it's related to the battery or not but I've had two random reboots with this battery installed. So... perhaps if someone else has experienced something similiar there just might be an issue there. Time will tell.
I bought from mugen the evo3D 1950mah I'm on my second cycle so far not impressed so far at all. The difference between the stock battery and this one is only 200 mah but it almost seems like the 3D battery drains faster
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Damn!!!! I bought for 17 two weeks ago!!!!
Just got my Amaze last night. I put my Anker battery that I bought 2 weeks ago for my sensation in it. Unplugged the phone at 9:45 AM, and when I got home at around 8:00 i had something like 15-20% charge remaining. That was after using my phone through out the day to place a few phone calls, constantly checking texts and facebook, and also doing some ebay browsing looking for accessories for it. Must say, I LOVE my Anker battery.
Solid opinions?
I'm planning on buying one (1900mAh). I heard that initial it appears to lose it charge then slows down but still offering good battery life. However I'm a bit unsure.
By how much more hours will this thing pack compare to stock?
Also I hope (and it probably will) increase battery life once we see Cyanogenmod and better kernels. First we have to get through S-Off.
I got the 1950 today is my third cycle, in my previous post it was my second and I said it was terrible, after the 3rd cycle I've seen a big improvement. 12 hours and 12 mins off charger. I started at 100 percent. Right as I went into work. For 8 and 1/2 hours I had airplane mode on, being that WiFi calling doesn't work, had WiFi turned on, and listened to Pandora the whole time.
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Just bought this battery for mine. It does not seem to get a full charge. Charging on device only get up to 94 % or so. Any one else have that problem?
edit: meant to reply to Binary. I've got this same battery kit: http://amzn.com/B005M19IZU
I've had this same kit for a few weeks. I have the same complaints about the charger pins but whatever, your hands will learn how to do it quickly after a couple times. Now I just rotate the batteries about every day and a half. On the first few charges I was barely getting more than the stock battery. After a few times of fully charging and fully draining I get about 25hrs of normal use. Last weekend I got 36 hours before the battery finally died.
My usage patterns:
1+ hr internet radio morning commute.
Mail, Facebook, weather, syncing all day.
Random web
random games
1+ hr internet radio evening commute.
not plugged in all night, sometimes I leave sync on, sometimes I turn it off.
1+ hr internet radio for morning commute
change battery some time between getting to work and lunch.
Worth it IMO.
So you are not charging in device though at all. Just their charger?
M9x3mos said:
So you are not charging in device though at all. Just their charger?
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I bought the single 1900mAh and I can charge to 100% through the phone, it does however discharge down quickly initially. Its slows down after 80 - 90% so the overall life is still good. This is its second charge so I'm still waiting to see if I get a boost.
are you charging yours in the phone or the anker charger? Seems with indicator being off been tryib to charge in the phone myself.
What is thr best most accurate way of charging for life and indicator to be right?
Here's the results with my Anker battery.
I know that telling you guys by text would be fairly useless so here's the screenshot as proof.
Not too bad I think.
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Here's the results with my Anker battery.
I know that telling you guys by text would be fairly useless so here's the screenshot as proof.
Not too bad I think.
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In my usage I get 7 hours out of the stock battery and 5 hours from the Anker. That puts the stock at about 1259 mA.
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So all those who got their rezound early, hows the battery?

As the title says I haven't seen anyone actually test the battery for a couple days, it's usually review and move on.
So how is it?
Well it hasn't been mentioned so it probably isn't worse than we expect it to be.
Also interested to know. Of course since this will be the first few days people have it, they'll be using it a ton so it may not be the best estimate on battery life but I would love to know an idea of how much to expect.
They haven't had time to calabrate yet.
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First charge with heavy use got greater than expected life. I will still buy an extended one, but thats cuz i hate charging. 7 hours of heavy use on 3g only.
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7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
con247 said:
7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
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yeah not to mention that after you root you can flash leaner kernels and ROM's. But we'll have to wait for development to pick up, I really hope we see some good developers here.
So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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DAMMIT I WANT!!! 3 more days...
I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
Mechadan said:
I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I got mine yesterday and I can say it is about 25-30% better than a rooted thunderbolt....My logic says once rooted we will get really good battery life.
I am a heavy user and I can say I turned off fast boot and bump charged it 3 times on Thursday night. I gave it a heavy use all day on Friday.
Took it off the charger at 10 am around 8 pm I was on 35%. So that was 10 hours of heavy use and still had 35% left. If I was using the rooted bolt I would have been dead around 5:30 and a stock bolt...even sooner.
hope all these battery estimates are true, sounds like this will be my next phone!
Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network. Played about 1 hour worth of Pandora on high quality setting. A couple minutes of 4G Youtube. Tons of tinkering with games and downloading apps and playing around. Screen brightness was set to something like 30%. live wallpaper enabled. Weather and clock widget enabled. Data tracking widget enabled. Did a few seconds of video Skype too. I would say it was consistent use all day, but not necessarily heavy for most of the day.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
Mechadan said:
Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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I have very similar usage habits. Glad to hear that this seems to have relatively good battery life.
Mechadan said:
Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network.
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Bad/No service areas will kill a battery so fast. My office is in a windowless reinforced concrete room inside a reinforced windowless room inside a reinforced building. (Yo dawg)
I get no service at all. If I leave the 3g on, phone won't make it past 5 hours. Turn the 3G/WiFi off and battery percent goes down a few points.
I need one!!!
Kellex over a Droid-Life has gotten just over 10 hours of normal usage (all in 4G) for the past couple of days. He also stated he is not a heavy user by any means.
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Seems like it isn't as bad as most thought it would be.
Battery - Caution
I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
jdmba said:
I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
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What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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jbh00jh said:
What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, so did you.
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Samsung Galaxy S2 Battery Life not good

Hi, this issue is specific to my NON-ROOTED Samsung Galaxy S2. I have seen other simsilar issues for other phones and they don't seem to help. My Battery doesn't seem to last more than a few hours. No more than 5-8 and it's dead. I turned off the Data and wi-fi. I set my Wallpaper to a Black background. It just sits on the desk and after a few hours it's almost dead...
What can I do to fix this?
Rooting is not an option at the moment.. I'm still reading and learning about it as I don't want to create a paperweight and/or void my warranty...
No offence mate but for a start you can search the forum and you will literally find dozens of threads on the very same subject which have been posted on here over the last few months.
Search and you'll find the answers your looking for, a tip freeze the Samsung bloatware in Titanium Backup and your battery life will improve substantially, there are many other methods to improve battery life you can find them yourself.
I get over a full day on heavy usage...
No offense taken, but most point to Rooting my phone...This is not an option for me at this time....I'll look some more, I guess...
Homeuser66 said:
No offense taken, but most point to Rooting my phone...This is not an option for me at this time....I'll look some more, I guess...
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Oh right well then your options are limited if your not going to root your phone as regards battery life.
jonny68 said:
Oh right well then your options are limited if your not going to root your phone as regards battery life.
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I know...that's why I posted, but I should have said that in my original post...I'll edit it....but I did find something that I will try when I can..Phone is charging in a wall outlet right now, and I don't want to unplug it. lol...I do thank you for your effort and understanding...
I have unrooted phone and get around 17-20 hours heavy usage.
I would suggest you flash a 2.3.5 Rom via Odin as they seem to have better battery management if you haven't done so
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
you dont need to be rooted to flash new roms via odin
Also advisable to charge battery till full then use till its like 1% then recharge full and so on to calibrate it a bit.
Rogue apps can eat your battery life as well so If you can afford it do a full wipe and reset if you can and see if it makes a difference.
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I have unrooted phone and get around 17-20 hours heavy usage.
I would suggest you flash a 2.3.5 Rom via Odin as they seem to have better battery management if you haven't done so
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
you dont need to be rooted to flash new roms via odin
Also advisable to charge battery till full then use till its like 1% then recharge full and so on to calibrate it a bit.
Rogue apps can eat your battery life as well so If you can afford it do a full wipe and reset if you can and see if it makes a difference.
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Looking into this one. Thanks!
I just wipped it to "
Out of the Box" state Tues night..only installed 25 apps :
APPS
Adobe Flash player 11.1
Angry Birds
Angry Birds RIO
Angry Birds Seasons
Books
Calendar Quick Add
Calendar Snooze
Facebook
Gmail
Hangman Classic
Keeper
Key Ring
Market
MyFitnessPal
Pool Master Pro
Solitaire
Tic Tac Toe Free
Visual Voicemail
WordSearch
all for my wife....she dont have data plan..
If her wifi is on and its constanly looking for wifi, will that be the cause? i just told her to turn that off.
What is a Rogue?
Chat applications like Google Talk or Facebook (if you go into Chat) tend to drain battery.
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i have the same problem with s i9100 and when connect using my galaxy the battery charged very slowly but charged very quick in galaxy s
the battery in s i9000 more better
You guys need to give more information if you really want decent assistance, there is an app called better battery stats, you want to look at your partial wakelocks section in that particular app, go get it either on this forum or in the Market, post screenshots of your battery graph in Settings>About Phone>Battery Usage and click on the time, also a screenshot of your partial wakelocks will reveal the issue 90% of the time
Also, there is no need to root your phone to achieve good battery life, unless it is found that a system app may be the cause of the poor battery which is hardly ever the case, anyone who points you to rooting to get good battery life has very limited knowledge of android and what is the cause of poor battery life...
Usually downloaded apps and user settings are the cause of poor battery, there is absolutely no need to root to be able to fix those problems.....
I noticed this one too...My stock DXI2 room tend to be a battery hogger and the display consumes around 60% of my entire battery life...
agreed I'm getting nigh on 2 days battery life nowadays maybe one and a half of moderate to high usage! certainly don't need to root and install a new ROM.
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You guys need to give more information if you really want decent assistance, there is an app called better battery stats, you want to look at your partial wakelocks section in that particular app, go get it either on this forum or in the Market, post screenshots of your battery graph in Settings>About Phone>Battery Usage and click on the time, also a screenshot of your partial wakelocks will reveal the issue 90% of the time
Also, there is no need to root your phone to achieve good battery life, unless it is found that a system app may be the cause of the poor battery which is hardly ever the case, anyone who points you to rooting to get good battery life has very limited knowledge of android and what is the cause of poor battery life...
Usually downloaded apps and user settings are the cause of poor battery, there is absolutely no need to root to be able to fix those problems.....
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Ok, so I am attaching my screen shots for you to look at..There are 2 of them, as I can't figure out how to take a scrolling screen shot, which I don't think there is a way...but I'm still in the learning process...lol
These were taken at 2am EST after a full battery charge...It says 22 hrs on the top...I'll be lucky if I get 6...
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The time is now, 10:15 am EST. I have turned off GPS. Force Stopped Solitare (Wife likes to play that)and it says: 4h 52m 35s on battery..not sure how to read this? Is this how long it's been on? or that I have battery left?
Display 49%
Cell standby 15
Phone idle 10
Android 8
Clock 5
Android system 4
Messaging 2
Calendar 2
The reset 2
that's the length of time since it's been unplugged.
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that's the length of time since it's been unplugged.
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Ohhh,, good to know
Homeuser66 said:
Ok, so I am attaching my screen shots for you to look at..There are 2 of them, as I can't figure out how to take a scrolling screen shot, which I don't think there is a way...but I'm still in the learning process...lol
The time is now, 10:15 am EST. I have turned off GPS. Force Stopped Solitare (Wife likes to play that)and it says: 4h 52m 35s on battery..not sure how to read this? Is this how long it's been on? or that I have battery left?
Display 49%
Cell standby 15
Phone idle 10
Android 8
Clock 5
Android system 4
Messaging 2
Calendar 2
The reset 2
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Charge your phone fully and use it as you would normally, the screenshots you provided doesn't show much, what you have to do is click on the very top where it says 22h 52m, that would take you to another shot that shows your "screen on" time in a linear graph just below "Awake" time, that's the screen that would tell us if you are having wakelocks.
Secondly, get better battery stats from the market or from this link here then set the display options to "Partial Wakelocks" "since unplugged", remember you do this after using your phone normally from 100% to 50%, this should be able to give us some insight into what is eating your battery, it may be better to let the phone sleep as much as possible, but I know it's pretty hard to leave the device alone......
You should definitely try better battery stats app. It helped me to identify the app that kept my phone awake continuosly. My battery life increased from 8-9 hrs to 15-17 hrs after uninstalling that app. I even bought the paid version from market after that. Must have app!!! Give it a shot. Its free for XDA users. But if it helps you then please do consider buying it to support the developer.
yup. My SGSII is on KJ3 stock & I get easily around 1 day & 16-17 hrs before i need a charge. This is with moderate to heavy usage (depends on your perspective) which includes:
1. Display is on roughly 1.5 to 2 hrs
2. Voice calls roughly 2-3 hrs
3. 100 odd texts
4. 30-40 mins of listening to music
5. 20-30 mins of browsing
6. 30 mins of running benchmarks
7. 10-15 mins of gaming
8. Downloads for 30 mins
8. Auto-sync & background data enabled for 9-10 hrs
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Charge your phone fully and use it as you would normally, the screenshots you provided doesn't show much, what you have to do is click on the very top where it says 22h 52m, that would take you to another shot that shows your "screen on" time in a linear graph just below "Awake" time, that's the screen that would tell us if you are having wakelocks.QUOTE]
Ok, I had the phone plugged in to the laptop to transfer my Memo's from my BB/Outlook over to the phone, so it only says it has been unplugged for 3 min..If you want longer, let me know, as I'll do another one tomorrow.
This one is from 49 min unplugged...
As far as that app. I'll download it now and run it for a day or two and see what happens...will post back soon!
Thanks for all your help people!!!
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.Secondly, get better battery stats from the market or from this link here then set the display options to "Partial Wakelocks" "since unplugged", remember you do this after using your phone normally from 100% to 50%, this should be able to give us some insight into what is eating your battery, it may be better to let the phone sleep as much as possible, but I know it's pretty hard to leave the device alone......
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My non rooted galaxy s ii lasts at least on full day of heavy usage, including 3g, music, and gps. Will last 2 to 3 days if i use it conservatively turning off 3g when not in use.
make sure u have latest update thats basically all i did.
good luck.

Should I get this 2800mah battery, Anyone familiar with Qcell?

I'm kinda skeptical they are truly 2800mah with the same form factor....
No reviews....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006SK5L2I
Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
ckang008 said:
Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
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Do you notice the difference in the 2? Like does the qcell with 300mah more make a difference?
I have one; started using it yesterday. Haven't used it enough to notice a difference, but personally I doubt there is one. If it was so easy to fit 300mah (>10%!) extra capacity into a battery, why wouldn't Samsung have done it in the first place? Surely a 2800mah battery would be a better selling point than 2500mah.
I miss that battery testing web site where the guy stress-tested all the aftermarket batteries and showed how basically all of them were massively over-rated.
I have two OEM batteries (got one as part of the awesome Samsung portable battery charger) and I figured for $15 or so the Q-cell was worth trying. One of these days I'll do a run-down test and see if there's a difference. If there is, I'll buy 10 of them and then report back here how great they are.
I *love* this product:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...03&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod5530247
It doesn't charge the phone, but you can toss it in a bag, swap batteries mid-day and have enough juice to get through a long evening of speed tests and server management while out on the town.
I've never had a phone die on me mid day.
I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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Mid day its that low? I go through my whole day and by the time I go to bed at 12 its at 40-60%.
Yes. I have 3 email accounts - 1 exchange and 2 IMAP (even though I set the intervals for IMAP to 1 and 2 hours), and I use the phone as a desktop replacement for answering emails, server management, and various other web-intensive functions. I lose 10-20% per hour while in use. Screen on auto brightness. Bluetooth is always on because I use a headset or a car link for voice calls, though I don't make a lot of voice calls. If I did my battery would be dead by noon every day. On voice calls my battery graph drops precipitously.
I am in a fringe LTE area, which I suspect doesn't help. Sometimes I get 1-2 bars of LTE, and most of the time I get 4 bars of non-LTE. Searching for signal and switching back and forth is probably not good for battery. Either that it's the time that it's on LTE that kills it. So I'm resigned to either swapping batteries mid-day or leaving the phone on a charger at various times throughout the day.
Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
Thanks looking forward to the results.
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Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
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Yes please do the test, that would be awesome.
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Maybe try this widget?
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl=en
hausman said:
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Don't they make apps that will drain the battery in a consistent way for comparison?
Actually here are some:
https://market.android.com/search?q=battery+benchmark&c=apps
Thanks...I'll look into those but I figure full brightness video is fine too.
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Test 1 is currently running. Fully charged Qcell 2800, started at 6:45am; as of approx. 9am (2h 12m of full screen video with GPS status running in the background) battery was 65%. I have the phone in flight mode to remove network connectivity/signal strength as a variable. Full results will be in tonight.
Well this isn't even close. I'm half tempted not to bother finishing the test. On test #2, OEM battery, after 2h 12m of video the OEM battery is at 78%. 78% vs 65%....that is HUGE. The OEM is winning by a mile. But for kicks I'll finish the test and post all the results/graphs.
"2800mAh" battery is more like 1600mAh
The results are much worse than I expected. And I notice that Amazon isn't even selling these batteries anymore, so that's something to take note of. I would imagine the data below would look familiar for any aftermarket battery sold at a cheap price (and possibly some sold for a not-cheap price).
Each battery was charged to 100% to start. I used the Samsung video player on full brightness (using the video player setting, not just the Android setting since the video player setting overrides the system). I played 3 movies on the Note during the rundown tests, in the same order. Mostly the Note sat on a corner of my desk playing with volume off; occasionally I stopped it to take a measurement or screenshot.
The "2800" battery lasted 5h 32m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was fairly linear, though it did accelerate a bit starting at about 25%. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was at 65%, after movie 2 (4h 15m cumulative) it was 30%, and did not make it through movie #3.
The OEM battery lasted 9h 35m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was also linear and remained essentially the same from 100 to 0. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was 78%, after movie 2 (4h 15m) it was 57%, after movie 3 (6h cumulative) it was 36% (the "2800" battery died during movie 3), and after movie 3 I went back and played movie 1 again (in full) and then started movie 1 AGAIN and got another ~90 minutes into it.
The difference is ridiculous. Since the "2800" battery was only $14, price per mAh is actually better than the OEM battery which is more than twice as expensive, but this thing is more like 1600mAh than 2800mAh. This isn't surprising to me, but it is good to quantify how terrible these knockoff batteries are. If I'd paid $20 or more for it I'd be angry, but given how cheap it was I'll toss it in the drawer and know I have a cheap 5-hour battery in addition to my two OEM batteries.
Since the "2800" battery has only had a couple of charge cycles, I will try to run the test again in a few days and see if more charge/discharge cycles make a difference. My OEM batteries haven't had many more, though, since I have two and I've been swapping between them on alternate days. I don't expect to gain 1200mAh.
Notice something else. When I rebooted for the 2nd test, bluetooth turned itself back on despite the Note staying in flight mode. I didn't notice that during the test, but that means that the OEM battery was actually under more load than the "2800" battery for the 9+ hour run.
tl; dr:
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Buy Samsung batteries.
Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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please report back !
So after using them for a few days, they actually seem pretty good.
I don't think I have the patience that Hausman (I actually want to call him 'haus) to do a more technical burn analysis (thanks 'Haus). Plus, I'm lazy. However, I've been using them instead of the Samsung OEM battery for the past few days and they seem to be transparent enough that I don't notice that a different battery is being used.
For $30 on Amazon, I'd tap that.

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I don't get your problem i have 2 Batterys if o have to get thru the whole day and night without changing. But 12-15h with one Battery are no Problem for me, and i use Bluetooth Headset GPS Wlan NFC all the time
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I don't get your problem i have 2 Batterys if o have to get thru the whole day and night without changing. But 12-15h with one Battery are no Problem for me, and i use Bluetooth Headset GPS Wlan NFC all the time
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First, based on my usage over the past 3 days, I don't know how that would be even remotely possible. Right now, I have all of that turned off, and my battery is dying just sitting there laying dormant....never saw that before, even with something as small as an iphone 4.
Second, I think you actually proved my point when you said you have to use 2 batteries. I've had iphones and an galaxy note 3 and s5 before and it was never an issue before that I even had to think about having a second battery. I used to read reviews of people saying that a benefit of a samsung over and iphone was the removable battery....while it's true that the battery might be removable, with the iphone you don't need to.
You should not exaggerate, sure this is not the phone if you're a really heavy user.
But I'm using it with everything ON, and never had a problem with it, I'm charging it every night.
But if you do have battery issues, you can buy yourself the 2500mah extended battery.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-6-battery-life-test/
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-alpha-exynos-5430-battery-test/
I am a heavy user and average about 4 hours of SOT with LTE Web Browsing and about 30 minutes of calls BUT I will probably get the 2500 Mah Battery ..
Also there may be a 20 -25% difference between Qualcomm and Exynos Versions with Exynos better ( wild guess on my part on %).
Still coming from a Note 3 , Alpha could be a shock.
Should have been 8mm thick with 2700 Mah
Battery and Ram and Camera and SD like Note 4....THEN Alpha would not be discontinued...lol.
I think you have somehow faulty phone, because this phone has awesome standby time, even with nfc/wifi/GPS on. And it can even survive 30mins of talking with just 3% of battery. Usually the battery in my alpha and in some other alphas survives 12+h with wifi/nfc on and with 3-4h SOT.
Sounds like the phone or battery is messed up. Just replaced battery. If it still doesn't fix, contact carrier
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I've had my Alpha for a week now (Exynos version) and I'm disappointed in the battery as well. I bought it for music playback and I took a six hour drive over the weekend with it functioning in airplane mode streaming music through the headphone jack. That was it. It was down to 9% at the end of my drive. Call me crazy, but that's unacceptable for it not being connected to ANY network. It was just playing music and an audiobook located on the device. Is this normal? I can return it, but I love the form factor and the audio quality is second to none, so I will probably just live with it.
-Collin-
There is an extended battery that you can get if you need some extra juice.
Try latest Firmware... BOA2 gave me 20% better battery life
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If you completely disable NFC the battery lasts for more than 2 days.
Can you post screenshots of your battery use? It would be interesting to see why your phones battery die so many times faster than mine
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Can you post screenshots of your battery use? It would be interesting to see why your phones battery die so many times faster than mine
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Yes, I would love to. Please let me know how to do that. I will also try to look it up, but I haven't used android in a while so it's all new to me again.
Incidentally, I continue to be dissatisfied with the battery compared to my past iphones. I have everything turned off, e.g., NFC, bluetooth, etc. And, I hardly have any apps installed.
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@ skirush, you either have a bad phone or an app that is draining your battery in the background. And don't blame the "pathetic" battery. I'm getting 70 minutes of screen time when my battery drains to 20%. Also, I am not using the power save modes.
Did you buy your phone new? It is very odd that you are not getting better performance from your Alpha.
I'm not really sure what to do. I'm pretty pissed about this whole thing. I went out on a limb and bought it new online. Once I got the phone, I confirmed with both AT&T and Samsung that the phone was legit and both said yes. In fact, Samsung even said that the phone is covered under warranty. So, instead of returning it (due to the poor battery life) I kept it. Now, I might be too late to return it to the company I bought it from. It's been over their 14 day return policy.
I have had the feeling that its messed up ever since I first got it, but I decided to stick with it since samsung said it was legit. Now, I'm regretting it.
thumbs down for Samsung support
I called Samsung tech support/customer service. Get this, they are willing to replace the battery...IF, I first send them my battery that's currently in my phone. That's just not possible. Like most people, I have one cell phone with one battery. I don't have a landline phone. So, I don't have spare batteries just lying around to use in the mean time.
That's bs from my perspective. I've had replacements on phones sent to me before. For example, ATT sent me a replacement Note 3 and they took my credit card info on file. After I returned the old unit back to them they release a hold in the amount of the phone.
Not sure why samsung is unwilling to do this. Seems ridiculous to expect someone to send them a battery for their phone, thus rendering it useless. And who knows how long it would take them to send a new one back to me. Could be a total 2 weeks without a phone between me mailing them the old battery and them sending me a new one. Who can do that?
a battery costs about 10$ and for longer trips you may need a second one. So why don't you buy an second one and send the battery from the phone to Samsung?
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First, based on my usage over the past 3 days, I don't know how that would be even remotely possible. Right now, I have all of that turned off, and my battery is dying just sitting there laying dormant....never saw that before, even with something as small as an iphone 4.
Second, I think you actually proved my point when you said you have to use 2 batteries. I've had iphones and an galaxy note 3 and s5 before and it was never an issue before that I even had to think about having a second battery. I used to read reviews of people saying that a benefit of a samsung over and iphone was the removable battery....while it's true that the battery might be removable, with the iphone you don't need to.
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I am an ATT user so I did have the 850A version with the snapdragon and I did notice that the battery life was pretty bad, but not as bad as you illustrate - and yes this phone gets nowhere near the life as the IPhone6 (my wife has one too).
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If you completely disable NFC the battery lasts for more than 2 days.
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I totally agree with this. The NFC chip on this phone kills the battery. I dropped from 100 to 65 % in 4 hours with the phone in standby. I turned off NFC and 3 hours later it only dropped another 6%
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@ skirush, you either have a bad phone or an app that is draining your battery in the background. And don't blame the "pathetic" battery. I'm getting 70 minutes of screen time when my battery drains to 20%. Also, I am not using the power save modes.
Did you buy your phone new? It is very odd that you are not getting better performance from your Alpha.
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I had a DLNA app in the background running (just the service) and it too drained the battery as it was constantly trying to find DLNA ready devices.
Bottom line: Either you have a defective battery/phone or you have a consumer that you have not discovered yet.
BTW I switched to the 850M with the samsung chip just because I get the rooting support that the A version will propably never get. Plus the phone outright is cheaper.
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....Not sure why samsung is unwilling to do this. Seems ridiculous to expect someone to send them a battery for their phone, thus rendering it useless. And who knows how long it would take them to send a new one back to me. Could be a total 2 weeks without a phone between me mailing them the old battery and them sending me a new one. Who can do that?
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I purchased this aftermarket battery as a backup. it's been working like the original one. $6 shipped to you is a steal for me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Battery-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Alpha-G850-/111584617173
Sucks that Samsung is making you jump through these hoops. I would check with the retailer you bought it from if you can exchange it. If not, file a claim with your credit card. Good luck

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