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I've not seen a specfic thread dedicated to ROMS that people are using that appear to be flawless. I did do a search on here, but honestly, I'm new to Android and don't know exactly what to search for other than maybe CM7.1, UnNamed, and ROMs. of which you get way too many threads to sort through. figured I'd start this and people can add things. I'll keep it updated on this first post with updates as people post them. This may help others who are new find what they need to. If you know of a safe rom, post up. If you also know of a walkthrough of how to install it, post that up as well since other newbs may want help walking through their first flash. Thanks!
considering tomween1 already spent the time to create a thread with all the info you need (here) i think this thread is redundant. just my opinion, though.
nothing is "safe" if you dont know what you're doing or dont do homework, first. On the flip side, most roms are relatively safe if you know what to do. All the info you need to flash, root, whatever ... is usually stickied to the top of the section.
If it isn't from netchip, and you take care to READ all directions and instructions and warnings before flashing - everything here is safe.
(Only thing "unsafe" really is bootloaders - which is why I make sure any bootloader thread has plenty of warnings.)
I think he meant "safe" is the ROM has no error which all the cook ROMs have. Even the Stock ROm sometimes has a bug.
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sweetboy02125 said:
I think he meant "safe" is the ROM has no error which all the cook ROMs have. Even the Stock ROm sometimes has a bug.
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NOTICE:
If anyone wants a custom rom without any bugs or errors please look elsewhere!
(xda is not the right place for you.)
if anyone is looking for:
1) something safe to flash
and
2) doesnt want to read and gain the proper knowledge prior to touching their phone
then they should leave their phone as it is right out of the box. There are a lot of people on this forum that are more than willing to help someone out but dont expect them to do all the work. You need to meet them half way and have some prior knowledge of what you are doing.
I respect this post and would love to see it turn into a rom known bugs thread. For ex unnamed is a battery hog. P8 has Bluetooth issues and cm7 has sub par cam.
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zgr8jakez said:
I respect this post and would love to see it turn into a rom known bugs thread. For ex unnamed is a battery hog. P8 has Bluetooth issues and cm7 has sub par cam.
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The problem is, if everyone posted bugs in this thread, you'd have to sift through pages and pages of posts to see if you have a similar problem. Even then, the problem may not be the rom but a bad flash or incompatibility with a app. This would be so cluttered, you wouldn't be able to get anything out of it. What if there was a bug and the dev fixed it in a update? A newb would read the thread and think there's a issue that hasn't been resolved. Bugs are best left to their dev thread where they can be announced and addressed. If you want to see what rom A has to offer, take the time to READ.
zgr8jakez said:
I respect this post and would love to see it turn into a rom known bugs thread. For ex unnamed is a battery hog. P8 has Bluetooth issues and cm7 has sub par cam.
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Hmmm.... these "bugs" look more like opinions or might possibly be user error. For me UnNamed is a battery genius and I probably got over 2 days of use on one charge. I'm using Bluetooth just fine on Serendipity right now. And cam on cm7 works better for some then it might work for you bro.
im on uname rom myself but look to make the change to {ROM} MIUI 1.10.21 {Updated on 10-25-11} cuz i love miui so, unmae is a very good fast rom i just miss miui.
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Hmmm.... these "bugs" look more like opinions or might possibly be user error. For me UnNamed is a battery genius and I probably got over 2 days of use on one charge. I'm using Bluetooth just fine on Serendipity right now. And cam on cm7 works better for some then it might work for you bro.
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My thoughts exactly. (Except I never tried CM7)
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Yup. I've never had battery problems with gtg's ROM. Yes, S8 is slightly better on battery due to being more aggressively debloated, but it's not THAT much better.
Usually, anyone who encounters severe drain has encountered an app bug.
Slight exception: Any ROM that doesn't include my 10/20 kernel is susceptible to the fuel_alerted wakelock bug. Easy enough to flash my kernel over any ROM that hasn't been updated with the 10/20 kernel.
At this point, any user who claims a ROM is a battery drainer is usually at fault themselves. Especially if they haven't posted debugging info collected as documented in my Known Battery Drainers thread.
Most of the issues people have with roms are user errors.
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One thing I forgot: The UCKJ2 leak that is distributed as a .exe file is an "Odin One-Click" flash package which will flash crippled bootloaders. I would suggest avoiding it.
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One thing I forgot: The UCKJ2 leak that is distributed as a .exe file is an "Odin One-Click" flash package which will flash crippled bootloaders. I would suggest avoiding it.
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What I am looking for is a complete stock 4 part odin flash rom like
this below but one which is for the SGS2 i777 phone and not the i9100.
OR an Odin One-Click flash for i777.
PIT select u1_02_20110310_emmc_EXT4.pit
PDA select CODE_I9100XXKI3_CL577579_REV02_user_low_ship.tar.md5
PHONE select MODEM_I9100XXKI3_REV_02_CL1062028.tar.md5
CSC select GT-I9100-CSC-MULTI-OXAKI3.tar.md5
So far I could not find a 100% stock package for the i777 here in XDA.
Designgears had a very good odin one-click for the old captivate I used to have.
Either one would be good, one-click or just the complete 4 part odin flash.
Glad I could get the convo going! I'm very conservative when it comes to testing rom's and am a battery nazi as far as processes go. Cm7 is fine with still shots but unless they fixed it lately the fps on it was not perfect. I know I'm alone on the Bluetooth issue with s8 but had just gone from a fresh wipe to clean install
.. there have been allot of mms issues with that rom though..
UnNamed has more bloat so of course it will use more power after I froze the bloat it was where s8 was. The devs are amazing not knocking any at all just putting my 2 cents in. Btw the way I found the easiest way to play around with rom's was to back up in both cwm and titanium, flash one for a week and repeat indefinitely that way you can get the best of all worlds.
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CSC and cache get integrated into the system image on first boot - so you will never see a return-to-stock that includes csc and cache for UCKH7, since the return-to-stock was generated from a dumped phone, and since it's the initial stock firmware, H7 doesn't exist as Odin upgrade leaks anywhere.
Same exact deal as gtg's Ultimate Unbricks for the Infuse - the D5 unbrick (and I think the E3 unbrick too, will check tonight) were created from system dumps, so do not include a separate CSC or Cache file, as those get integrated into the system image on first boot.
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
kalojado said:
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
kalojado said:
Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
ashclepdia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
Crawshayi said:
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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1) M5 is newest. Get glitched build off of the exynos server.
2) Complete wipe. A desktop equivalent would be formatting your hard drive with Windows Vista installed and doing a fresh install of windows 7.
Backup all data and contacts locally or on the cloud. Do NOT use Verizon to backup your contact data. Use Google or a local backup instead.
No bloatware will be present since custom roms do not come from the carrier.
3) NSTools. Maybe Root Explorer or wi-fi tether for google
4) Just follow the guide. Rooting doesn't have much to do with recovery and intalling ics and such.
Not to knock ICS, because I love AOKP, but you could also consider working your way there over time. I had a lot of fun playing with different Touchwiz ROMs like SC3 and TSM Res. You may even find one along the way that you want to stick with for a while. At the very least, you'll learn to get where a complete data wipe doesn't even slow you down.
There's so much good stuff still available for this phone. My phone is sheer perfections right now, but I still have plans to try out GeeWiz and MIUI.
Everyone knows the current destination is Glitched AOKP, but the fun is in the journey.
I agree. I would download everything rom,kernel, and app you can find for the phone between here and rootzwiki, just in case links go dead. Tsm res and awesome sauce are two very good roms that I had a ton of fun with. They are more forgiving to the new user as far as making mistakes goes. Couple of things to know before you continue are that you can use the three finger method to get into recovery on touchwiz roms but not the ics roms(must enter recovery through power off menu). You also cant just flash back and forth from touchwiz roms and cm7 or ics roms, as you have to follow certain steps
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Well I was planning on jumping right into ICS as it looks amazing and I don't think I want to wait... however I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of trying different roms later on down the road. Is it going to be a pain to go backwards from ICS, or just flash like usual? Also, to those that have tried most of the 'good' roms, what would you consider your top 3 non-ICS?
Also on the subject of backing up my apps... I have been using Mybackup as it seems the most simplistic to use and reliable. Will my apps be exactly as they were when I backed them up (after switching to ICS) or is it just better to re-download what I need and configure them again?
I hate to spam some more questions but I figure since I already am... just a few more...
I haven't really messed with Setcpu that much, but is it bad to have it at 100/1000 or should I keep the max lower than that? And last one... what's the best wifi tether to use so Verizon won't send their goons after me? Is the USB tether from clockwork mod any good?
Thanks to all of you for your input. I think I'll be attempting to flash to ICS tomorrow night and hopefully all goes well.
You can go from touchwiz roms to isc roms by flashing but you need to do a lot more using the computer to go backwards. It will make more sense once you have a better understanding. Use titanium backup to backup your apps. If you really dont have any then just redownload them. If you are on the touchwiz roms you can use setcpu, but for ics roms you are going to be using an app called nstools or from control (built into settings section of rom). Again, more of this will make sense later down the road that is why I figured it would be better to start on a from like tsm Res or awesome sauslce
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
Crawshayi said:
You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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That is a nightly and has a minor bug where apps on SD card force close. No biggie for more experienced users who know its a nightly and can deal. Nightlies are bleeding edge releases and as such can contain a bug or two. Milestones are stable releases to be used as a reliable daily driver if one is needed (some do). I recommend the m5 release since it is a milestone and you are new to this. I also want to see you have the best experience possible.
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I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
EtherBoo said:
I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Might sound like a cheesy question, but what radios are you running?
Thanks for your help.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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QFT.
Get the Glitched build as it has fixes, extra available RAM, and much more not available in the AOKP official build.
Wifi, cam, and MMS all work fine. I can't honestly think of anything not working off the top of my head. NovaLauncher (Regular is free, Prime is $4 and well worth it for gestures) is recommended at this point since Apex has gotten a little slow.
Radio is recommended to be EH03 though I think ec09 and anything newer than eh03 work fine. I am running EH03 and no complaints.
I think I remember reading something about torch not working in ICS... is that the type of app that turns on the LED? Believe it or not I use that a lot and it would be a pain if it didn't work when I switch.
Also, is there any way to check what radio you're currently using before flashing? Tried looking that up but couldn't find it
Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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The Tiny Flashlight + LED app? That's actually what I'm using now and if that works then I'm all set... I thought when people said 'torch' they just meant any app that turns on the LED
I flashed and ran into 1 problem. I had to flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM first. Flashing glitched put me in an endless boot. Then I couldn't boot to recovery. I really was flipping out.
I had to Odin a new recovery in, wipe, then flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM. For some reason, it booted into AOKP (?) then. I went back to recovery, wiped, reflashed AOKP and got it working.
I haven't searched yet, but anyone know where I can change the boot screen? It's really not a "wife friendly" boot screen.
As I understand it, torch refers to the built in flashlight feature in aokp called torch. Tiny flashlight plus the widget give similar functionality.
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Nothing was the same after rooting my atrix.
-The HD games started to freeze, and on the worst cases crashing (e.g. GTA VC).
-Background apps (e.g. Gauge Battery Widget) rebooted very often (specially when browsing).
-When surfing multiple heavy pages, the browser tends to crash sometimes. Also when it crashes, it returns me to the start screen and if i have a live wallpaper running it stops and changes to a generic black screen.
-When trying to upload an image file on an image board, the browser refreshes the page.
-Overheats without reason from time to time. Seriously, its like a pocket heater.
-When the screen animations are activated, returning from landscape to vertical orientation turns the notification bar blurry and when i pull down the notifications tray it turns the screen blurry as well. Though it returns to normal when going back to landscape.
This is a major issue for me since if i turn off the screen animations, i can't tell if an app i opened is running (e.g. YouTube). And like i don't use the stock video player and use another player (e.g. MX player), when the animations are activated instantly crashes when opening a video.
Also before rooting, the battery only lasts me 5 hours without running apps and the problem persists ever since.
One thing. The first time i got the phone it came with stock FROYO 2.2.1 and i changed it right away to GINGERBREAD 2.3.6 skipping the 2.3.4, i unlocked the bootloader first and then rooted it.
Is there anything i can do to fix the problems previously mentioned?
I have a feeling you are an international user and did not flash the ramfix, search for it in development section, download to sd and flash.
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I have a feeling you are an international user and did not flash the ramfix, search for it in development section, download to sd and flash.
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Every tutorial i looked for didn't mentioned that, i'll give it a try.
But if i do that, does it mean i will have to do a hard reset?
It is surely mentioned in subsequent posts in the tutorial thread.
RAM fix has nothing to do with data so factory reset (or hard reset as you call it) is not needed.
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It is surely mentioned in subsequent posts in the tutorial thread.
RAM fix has nothing to do with data so factory reset (or hard reset as you call it) is not needed.
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Not in the tutorials i've followed, they never mentioned it. FYI none of the tuts where from here.
Good to know i won't have to hard reset. So were does the zip go, internal or external?
always follow xda, it's the best
as for the zip, place it wherever you like and flash it with a custom recovery like cwm or twrp
Yeah I could never understand people who follow a tutorial on forum X then ask about it on forum Y... Makes no sense to me. Why are people on forum Y supposed to know anything about forum X or its contents?
Questions about a tutorial on some forum should be asked on that same forum.
And yeah, everything you need is on XDA, no need to go search for random sources.
Just to help the OP:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cu2bd61dh6ytzda/C-z3zfNBcr (just get the RAMfix.zip from this link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5T9hJ4Yjek
Hope this helps OP. I have a At&t and I don't need to do the RAM fix. U can give this a shot. All the best.
5HoofedStallion said:
Not in the tutorials i've followed, they never mentioned it. FYI none of the tuts where from here.
Good to know i won't have to hard reset. So were does the zip go, internal or external?
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Ramfix may not be mentioned in root tutorials because it's related with unlocking bootloader. Since you first unlocked, then rooted, you'll have to flash it anyway.
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Just to help the OP:
Hope this helps OP. I have a At&t and I don't need to do the RAM fix. U can give this a shot. All the best.
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Off topic, but now that you brought the subject. I have seen this a while ago, and looks tempting but is it convenient for me to use the leaked ICS rom? Is there any bugs in it to be concerned about?
It's a shame that motorola decided to leave the atrix in the shadows with GB, they could at least made ICS the final and definitive update. I mean, the rom looks like it was 99% finished and ready to launch.
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Ramfix may not be mentioned in root tutorials because it's related with unlocking bootloader. Since you first unlocked, then rooted, you'll have to flash it anyway.
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I followed both root and bootloader unlock tutorials and NONE brought that out. Since i'm LATAM, it made sense for me to seek in latin android forums instead here because of the firmwares, and boy they skip a lot of useful info in those forums.
Also, how do i exactly run the ramfix? Im eager to fix the buggy notification tray right away, that and fixing my battery not charging at 100%. I tried pulling the battery while charging and it turned worse, it went from 90% to 70%
I also need to know how to wipe the battery data from the CWM.
5HoofedStallion said:
... is it convenient for me to use the leaked ICS rom? Is there any bugs in it to be concerned about?
It's a shame that motorola decided to leave the atrix in the shadows with GB, they could at least made ICS the final and definitive update. I mean, the rom looks like it was 99% finished and ready to launch.
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If it's running well for you, you should consider yourself very lucky. You should also read some of the threads concerning it and related ROMs (AtrICS etc) - the thing is so buggy very few people even wonder anymore how come it was never released.
Even if it's running so great for you as you say, I still wouldn't keep it if I were you. The ROM is a development build, it was never meant to be used as a daily driver. But that's just me.
5HoofedStallion said:
Off topic, but now that you brought the subject. I have seen this a while ago, and looks tempting but is it convenient for me to use the leaked ICS rom? Is there any bugs in it to be concerned about?
It's a shame that motorola decided to leave the atrix in the shadows with GB, they could at least made ICS the final and definitive update. I mean, the rom looks like it was 99% finished and ready to launch.
I followed both root and bootloader unlock tutorials and NONE brought that out. Since i'm LATAM, it made sense for me to seek in latin android forums instead here because of the firmwares, and boy they skip a lot of useful info in those forums.
Also, how do i exactly run the ramfix? Im eager to fix the buggy notification tray right away, that and fixing my battery not charging at 100%. I tried pulling the battery while charging and it turned worse, it went from 90% to 70%
I also need to know how to wipe the battery data from the CWM.
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I agree with u. But Motorola is infamous for such antics. One if the reasons I don't have a RaZr anymore. But it is running good. I will b honest. Its OK. This phone isn't made for anything but GB in mind. I would pick a low end, second hand Windows Phone any day over this.
But this is as far as it goes for Atrix. Jelly Bean...naah.
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How am i supposed to run the ramfix?
Sent from my rooted & unlocked Motorola Atrix.
It's a flashable zip so just install it like gapps or a rom. Install from sd card
Which are the commands on the atrix?
Sent from my rooted & unlocked Motorola Atrix.
Use a custom recovery... You can manually adjust the cmdline but flashing the zip is much easier
You mean, with the RSD Lite?
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Don't ever touch RSD, RSDLite or any SBF (except pudding) unless you're at gunpoint.
Then how the hell do i run ramfix on clockwork!?!
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Would do you good if you could learn to search and read. It's all explained many times...
Hint: CWM = ClockWorkMod recovery
Another hint: How do you usually use a flashable zip?
im looking for the route to go from here
ive successfully rooted and rom'd phones a few times no issues there but there are so many things going on im lost
i have a few issues i hope i can get help with and a few questions that will come out of them issues
my phone gets pretty sluggish after time the phone wont open and using it makes it get hot pretty quick
i dont play any games on it or install many odd apps
mainly i use:
phone
camera
video camera
facebook
sms
and email i have 5 accounts i use 3 gmail a yahoo and an exchange from work
should i use a different kernel?
is the newest android the best thing i should use on it ?
i see that the non working features of some of the roms is things i need to use like the camera or hidef recording.
also i see different things on different forums i know its a strange question because im on here but is there a forum best suited for the razr maxx ive used xda for my lg my galaxy tab10.1 and now the maxx just curious
also is there a way to make it send the pictures to the external sd card using it fills the internal one up and it sometimes locks up completely as it gets close to full, then i have to connect it usb and move the pictures to my PC
ive included pics of my system
Looks like you're running it on slim bean with 4.3.
If you want features like HD recording, then I suggest try some stock 4.1 based ROMs.
For storing images, you can find the option in settings. If you don't find it there, then you can swap your sdcards.
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One big question to ask is do you use MMS (picture messaging)?
I say that because a lot of ROMS do not have it fully functioning, so that is something to keep an eye on. I am currently using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535920&page=45 on mine, and it is working pretty well, but some people are experiencing issues with MMS and bluetooth (I am not facing those issues. Also, take some time to look at kernel upgrades, like JBX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223517, these can greatly alter the performance of your phone for the better and add things back in like 720p video recording.
thanks for the answers
i do use mms from time to time i have noticed that a rom i used in the past was one of the ones that didnt mms after a few fights with people that i didnt ignore them lol
last night i tried flashing eclipse 1.5 but it wouldn't boot i think i was using the wrong version maybe? so today i reflashed slim spyder 4.3
why is it that the android 4.1 stock roms will work better than the highly modified custom roms ? isnt the idea of developing new features to make the best of the OS and hardware and have all the features without the BLOAT ? ( i made it look fat for effect hahah)
how do i swap the sd cards ? maybe a link, and will it help? im not sure because it saves them to the internal storage not the internal sd card i think and the phone gets all filled up nd then goes completely haywire
im really unsure on what of those 2 links would be the best way to go
i also not sure how to know if im on a stock -based rom
It looks like you are on SlimBean, so not a stock rom.
I don't know that I would go as far as saying that stock roms work better than highly customized roms, but there are a lot of "unofficial" or "alpha" build roms that just aren't finished. Those will inherently have issues.
Can you post the links to the threads that you got the rom from? There are a couple different options for your phone, depending on your carrier. It looks like you are on CDMA, so you need to make sure you are downloading those builds, not UMTS builds.
As far as the links go, use the first link to get the new rom, and load it through safestrap. If you need a tutorial on that, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
When you boot into safestrap, you will create a partition and install the rom, then reboot and enjoy!
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thanks for the answers
i do use mms from time to time i have noticed that a rom i used in the past was one of the ones that didnt mms after a few fights with people that i didnt ignore them lol
last night i tried flashing eclipse 1.5 but it wouldn't boot i think i was using the wrong version maybe? so today i reflashed slim spyder 4.3
why is it that the android 4.1 stock roms will work better than the highly modified custom roms ? isnt the idea of developing new features to make the best of the OS and hardware and have all the features without the BLOAT ? ( i made it look fat for effect hahah)
how do i swap the sd cards ? maybe a link, and will it help? im not sure because it saves them to the internal storage not the internal sd card i think and the phone gets all filled up nd then goes completely haywire
im really unsure on what of those 2 links would be the best way to go
i also not sure how to know if im on a stock -based rom
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The answer would be a very long story but I'll cut it short as much as I can.
Everything you said is absolutely right. But some of the reasons the custom ROMs doesn't work are locked contents by the manufacturer.
Locked bootloaders, locked libraries and many more. We're lucky that some devs actually devoted a lot of hard work to even make custom ROMs work on this device.
So our phone has a lot of locked stuff which is necessary for things like HDMI and HD recording to work. The custom kernel cannot access it.
So these features work with stock Moto kernel only which was based on 4.1
To swap sdcards, you need to edit the build.prop. I shall post the steps as soon as I have access to my laptop.
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that's awesome
i truly respect the people devoting time to developing it does make computers mainly my phone more of a personal thing
id love to try the swap sd card thing thank you
ill be waiting
rexxxlo said:
that's awesome
i truly respect the people devoting time to developing it does make computers mainly my phone more of a personal thing
id love to try the swap sd card thing thank you
ill be waiting
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To swap sdcards. You will need a file explorer with root (E.S. Explorer or Root Explorer).
Go to system and open build.prop for editing.
Search for the line
Code:
#persist.sys.vold.switchexternal=1
Change it to
Code:
persist.sys.vold.switchexternal=1
(remove the #)
Save the build.prop
Reboot