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hi, ive come from the x10 mini pro and just bought a branded new mini pro.
after having read through the forums it appears to me that although it's fine to root the phone, unless i unlock my bootloader i won't be able to have much support for custom roms and also undervolting/overclocking. With the x10 mini pro these features were all available without custom kernels, will these be possible/likely for the new mini pro for us people without unbranded models. such as adding modules etc and updating rom using recovery update.zip
i know unlocking the bootloader is available in other methods, but i'd rather keep it locked just in case.
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To be honest, you dont need anything besides root.
Custom roms make sense on other phones, but the new xperia phones are perfect in terms of software/hardware calibration. Everything works like a charm, there's no need for a custom rom.
If you just want one for the looks, install a launcher.
FreeZr said:
To be honest, you dont need anything besides root.
Custom roms make sense on other phones, but the new xperia phones are perfect in terms of software/hardware calibration. Everything works like a charm, there's no need for a custom rom.
If you just want one for the looks, install a launcher.
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I couldnt agree more
Cm7? Never liked it on my mini
on my galaxy tho-its a diffrent story.that sucker NEEDS hacking
Stock Sony ericsson rom are the best for Xperia mini pro sk17
Who needs a custom Rom for a 1ghz processor phone?
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my main gripe with stock rom is i can't have my widgets in my notification bar as good as in cyanogen. i have widgetsoid and have that in my notification area, but things like switching between 2g/3g or turning data on/off takes me to the settings menu, i want it to work at the touch of a button. just little things like that are annoying me..
i think undervolt/overclock are good to be on the sk17 but customrom is not needed.
it would be enough to cook a clean stockrom which is pre-rooted or a clean rom with custom kernel and undervolt/overclock.
I've just been re-reading the official Sony comparison of their Gingerbread and ICS offering. This time I've had the chance to read more properly all the things they said. For the first time I actually have sympathy for Sony. The manufacturers bring out phones (e.g. SE) with the Xperias 2011 all running Gingerbread from the very start, then the next Google upgrade wipes out the phones. I owned the 2010 X10 Mini and our phone got wiped out the same way. It seems to me that we consumers do not benefit. Anyone who comes to this forum is already a bit of tech. nut, we are a very small population of the whole market, of course we want to try what's new and hot. But in this blog, Sony is explicitly saying that ICS is much, much more demanding on system resources and that we will definitely see a fall in performance, they clearly reference longer boot up time, apps force closing and stalling as well as poor video performance for different reasons that they explain in the blog.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Now I want to wait before I upgrade and check out the news. A few new icons and wallpapers is NOT good enough reason for me to upgrade. Better battery is a good reason to wait, which in that blog, Sony says you will get with Gingerbread over ICS. Do we really benefit here? Do we have to buy a new phone every year now, because Google is bumping up the demands of Android, like Microsoft did with Windows Vista? Windows 7 has less requirements than Vista, only slightly, and 8 has the same requirements as 7 so at least we could use the same laptop/pc for a few years. With Google, the way they are doing this is screwing us over I think.
For you, stay with Gingerbread, move to ICS, not sure or want to wait?
Ray users say they havent experienced any major bugs... Battery is definitely poor for now.....
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I think on the minis and active devices we have the advance of having a smaller resolution area while having almost the same hardware as the other xperia 2011
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They are really both very good points: we can look to the current Sony beta roms for more clues and it is true, our smaller screen being powered by the same CPU is an advantage. Perhaps we Mini users will have the least trouble amongst the 2011 Xperias?
Gingerbread would still be the most dominant OS, due to its stability on most phones,
having a new OS or phone is not always the best option.
I really thank the devs here in XDA, they are keeping old phones alive,
giving us a chance to have a taste of the new flavor and further improving stock OS on current phones.
I just recently read about the Xperia S Rom ported to Xperia X10 here, how cool is that...?
I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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you can always remove the bloatwares , though of course with custom roms we can do a lot of things which are still restricted even with a rooted stock rom
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I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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If you want a different UI, just use a different home.apk? Just saying...
But yea i'm with the OP on these thoughts, have had the same thoughts for quite some time now. The thing is, we can make ICS faster on our devices just as we did with GB, but... How stable will the non-stock ICS roms be? Honestly I would rather see MIUI roms derived from GB as a base than ICS. A lot more stable with less bugs. Even the MIUI roms aren't AOSP based (as are official MIUI releases), they are FXP based roms. So, all in all we are between Stock and FXP releases.
I am not bashing on people working on developing MIUI and various ICS based roms, but like the OP, i'd rather have stability over "new features", such as full HW acceleration, which can be triggered using a variable in GB too (mind you that uses more juice).
I am going to seriously think about moving Spartan Rom from stock GB rom as a source, to stock ICS as a source.
Even if the battery consumption, which in my list of priorities for a fully functional rom is the highest in the list, is sub-par, I wont be switching over to ICS personally.
@drumraden if you see about other devices there are lots of stable roms are available (mostly aosp based, even I am using a stable custom rom for my Xoom)
We just need to give time to the devs to come up with stable ice roms.
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You don't get my point.
The only reason to build an MIUI from ICS sources, is for the **** of saying its ICS therefore updated.
Yeah as for battery drain, I'm afraid Sony says on that site above that battery will be less durable with official ICS. What a shame. The discussion here though is really making me thing about all of this.
Yeah I am seriously thinking of going back to gb as soon as there is a good miui rom I am right now on ics because there is only one really stable miui release for the lww and it is ics but i really prefer better battery life.
On the other hand I prefer ics over hb a thousand times on my tab but it has like 7 times the battery of my phone so I have no issue with that.
I'll prefer ICS when main apps start to requires ICS.
While the requirements surround the GB I'll stick with it.
But it's nice to know that if it occurs my phone will be ready.
That's why I bought my mini-pro.
Personally, I will first give it a try. Then we will see, if it deserves to stay on my LWW or not...
yup ... sure will giv official a try ... but the best rom on gb wud be miui .... is that project still going on or has been dumped ?
i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
melander said:
i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
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I like the sound of that....perfect functionality and stunning visuals, yes.
Yup it feels tooo good..... Had it on ace.... Beautiful and fast......
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
batman368 said:
I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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One simple question... How much battery %/hour does the rom you have installed consume in standby mode with all radios except mobile turned off.
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Hi there! I've done a successful rooting, flashing (nAa) and install of miniCMS 9.0 (3.0.3) on my mini pro (u20i), though I find that the apps are really slow, and Trebuchet (default launcher) keeps crashing. I chalk it up to having so little RAM on this tiny mobile, so I'm saving up for the slightly bigger x10.
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now, and I'd like to try to go back to the standard Sony version of Android to check out the performance. I've downloaded and successfully flashed ( U20_2.1.1.C.0.0_Kernel.ftf ) and then subsequently gone back to NAa.. that didn't effect my install of miniCM9 at all.
I have tried the Sony Update Service download and run it through alright- both with the standard kernel and with nAa flashed, it tells me my software is up to date and leaves my phone alone.
I do need to install something lighter though, if possible. Odd things keep happening, like unrequested apps loading (Like phone, for example, in the bathroom, and bluetooth enabling itself after every time it was switched off last night for about ten minutes).
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, -illys
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I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now.
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Wait! What? :S ICS on x10 mp? Are you sure someone wasn't pulling your leg?
illysmanx said:
Hi there! I've done a successful rooting, flashing (nAa) and install of miniCMS 9.0 (3.0.3) on my mini pro (u20i), though I find that the apps are really slow, and Trebuchet (default launcher) keeps crashing. I chalk it up to having so little RAM on this tiny mobile, so I'm saving up for the slightly bigger x10.
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now, and I'd like to try to go back to the standard Sony version of Android to check out the performance. I've downloaded and successfully flashed ( U20_2.1.1.C.0.0_Kernel.ftf ) and then subsequently gone back to NAa.. that didn't effect my install of miniCM9 at all.
I have tried the Sony Update Service download and run it through alright- both with the standard kernel and with nAa flashed, it tells me my software is up to date and leaves my phone alone.
I do need to install something lighter though, if possible. Odd things keep happening, like unrequested apps loading (Like phone, for example, in the bathroom, and bluetooth enabling itself after every time it was switched off last night for about ten minutes).
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, -illys
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Any Sony updates to ICS are ONLY for 2011 devices and newer, NOT for the x10 series of phones from 2010, like we have.
You can save up for the Xperia X10, but it will give you basically the same hardware platform as your X10MiniPro has now, so you won't see much improvement in this ROMS performance, and it will still not give you Sony's Android 4.0, because that is a 2010 device too.
SmG67 said:
Any Sony updates to ICS are ONLY for 2011 devices and newer, NOT for the x10 series of phones from 2010, like we have.
You can save up for the Xperia X10, but it will give you basically the same hardware platform as your X10MiniPro has now, so you won't see much improvement in this ROMS performance, and it will still not give you Sony's Android 4.0, because that is a 2010 device too.
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Thanks for the clarification! Do you think though that miniCM9 will run better on the xperia pro? I've been very impressed with minicms on the x10 mini pro, but running apps on top of it has been like goopy molasses. I'll give up the idea of running Sony 4.0 software on these little systems- honest, Cyanogenmod is lovely.
Trying to install miniCM7..
Thanks
illysmanx said:
Thanks for the clarification! Do you think though that miniCM9 will run better on the xperia pro? I've been very impressed with minicms on the x10 mini pro, but running apps on top of it has been like goopy molasses. I'll give up the idea of running Sony 4.0 software on these little systems- honest, Cyanogenmod is lovely.
Trying to install miniCM7..
Thanks
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If the Xperia Pro (2011) handled ICS badly, Sony wouldn't have put out an upgrade for it, I bet CM9 and CM10 (JellyBean) will both run lovely on the Xperia Pro.
Trebuchet is really bad on our phones tbh. I replaced it with Nova launcher and That's great.
And JB runs faster than ICS on the robyn at least apparently so hopefully it will be great on here once we get it!
X10man
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First of all, hello to everyone in this scene. This is an old phone but still quite amazing and I'm having loads of fun flashing stuff onto it.
I've been an android user for around 2 years, my first device was the GT-P1000 galaxy tab 7''. I've had a Galaxy Gio for about 1 year now and an Ace for the last 4 months. I've recently got my hands on a X10 (which has a broken screen and usb port ruined but still works ) and I've been trying ROMs for the last few weeks but I am unable to set for one.
I've tried CM10, CM9, Oodie Prime X MIUI, X10S, Feravolt's GB ROM and now I'm on M&M's MIUI. I'm just wondering what would the best ROM (on your opinion) be for this device in terms of smoothness, speed and functions. I'm in love with MIUI for a while and also CM7 but I think they don't perform that great on this device for some reason.
Now for a few questions:
Is there any way to make Cronmod int2ext+ work on this device?
What is the cause for the WLOD? I've had one for no reason apparently.
I've been searching for like a week, maybe I suck at searches but I can't find answers for these questions -.-'
Also, is it just me of the X10 seems to need to be handled more carefully than other devices when flashing stuff?
I guess I'm just a Noob at Sony devices, my experience with android is pretty much Samsung only even though I've messed a bit with Huawei, HTC and Alcatel in the past.
My pick for smoothness, speed and functions(basic)
Stilm said:
First of all, hello to everyone in this scene. This is an old phone but still quite amazing and I'm having loads of fun flashing stuff onto it.
I've been an android user for around 2 years, my first device was the GT-P1000 galaxy tab 7''. I've had a Galaxy Gio for about 1 year now and an Ace for the last 4 months. I've recently got my hands on a X10 (which has a broken screen and usb port ruined but still works ) and I've been trying ROMs for the last few weeks but I am unable to set for one.
I've tried CM10, CM9, Oodie Prime X MIUI, X10S, Feravolt's GB ROM and now I'm on M&M's MIUI. I'm just wondering what would the best ROM (on your opinion) be for this device in terms of smoothness, speed and functions. I'm in love with MIUI for a while and also CM7 but I think they don't perform that great on this device for some reason.
Now for a few questions:
Is there any way to make Cronmod int2ext+ work on this device?
What is the cause for the WLOD? I've had one for no reason apparently.
I've been searching for like a week, maybe I suck at searches but I can't find answers for these questions -.-'
Also, is it just me of the X10 seems to need to be handled more carefully than other devices when flashing stuff?
I guess I'm just a Noob at Sony devices, my experience with android is pretty much Samsung only even though I've messed a bit with Huawei, HTC and Alcatel in the past.
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Well i think donutHD is the beat pick for "smoothness, speed and functions". and it really has no bugs so try it out:smoothness, speed and functions:smoothness, speed and functions
Yup donut was great.
my favorite was dixperia 7 and later techdevils meego rom: light, fast, ugly, last to be solved^^
I am using cm10, the xperia nxt themed one by vashishta at the moment. they are all pretty awsome
Greets
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So. As the topic states, I found myself a nice little new X10 mini (not the pro version).
The reason that I bought a new one, is because I am tired of the big screen phones, and I wanted something very smooth.
But I need some help from you guys.
I want my new phone to run as smooth as possible for surfing and using the menus. I also want as good battery life as possible.
Wich direction would you point me in then?
silmes said:
So. As the topic states, I found myself a nice little new X10 mini (not the pro version).
The reason that I bought a new one, is because I am tired of the big screen phones, and I wanted something very smooth.
But I need some help from you guys.
I want my new phone to run as smooth as possible for surfing and using the menus. I also want as good battery life as possible.
Wich direction would you point me in then?
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Have used pro in 2010 - 12. If you have rooted then try any GB rom and just install flash player for browsing. If you search the forum there are lot of reviews on the GB roms & I see gingerbread roms are best on these phones.
GB rom preferable. It is more secure and comfortable.
I recommend to look cm-10.1.