Hi there! I've done a successful rooting, flashing (nAa) and install of miniCMS 9.0 (3.0.3) on my mini pro (u20i), though I find that the apps are really slow, and Trebuchet (default launcher) keeps crashing. I chalk it up to having so little RAM on this tiny mobile, so I'm saving up for the slightly bigger x10.
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now, and I'd like to try to go back to the standard Sony version of Android to check out the performance. I've downloaded and successfully flashed ( U20_2.1.1.C.0.0_Kernel.ftf ) and then subsequently gone back to NAa.. that didn't effect my install of miniCM9 at all.
I have tried the Sony Update Service download and run it through alright- both with the standard kernel and with nAa flashed, it tells me my software is up to date and leaves my phone alone.
I do need to install something lighter though, if possible. Odd things keep happening, like unrequested apps loading (Like phone, for example, in the bathroom, and bluetooth enabling itself after every time it was switched off last night for about ten minutes).
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, -illys
illysmanx said:
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now.
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Wait! What? :S ICS on x10 mp? Are you sure someone wasn't pulling your leg?
illysmanx said:
Hi there! I've done a successful rooting, flashing (nAa) and install of miniCMS 9.0 (3.0.3) on my mini pro (u20i), though I find that the apps are really slow, and Trebuchet (default launcher) keeps crashing. I chalk it up to having so little RAM on this tiny mobile, so I'm saving up for the slightly bigger x10.
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now, and I'd like to try to go back to the standard Sony version of Android to check out the performance. I've downloaded and successfully flashed ( U20_2.1.1.C.0.0_Kernel.ftf ) and then subsequently gone back to NAa.. that didn't effect my install of miniCM9 at all.
I have tried the Sony Update Service download and run it through alright- both with the standard kernel and with nAa flashed, it tells me my software is up to date and leaves my phone alone.
I do need to install something lighter though, if possible. Odd things keep happening, like unrequested apps loading (Like phone, for example, in the bathroom, and bluetooth enabling itself after every time it was switched off last night for about ten minutes).
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, -illys
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Any Sony updates to ICS are ONLY for 2011 devices and newer, NOT for the x10 series of phones from 2010, like we have.
You can save up for the Xperia X10, but it will give you basically the same hardware platform as your X10MiniPro has now, so you won't see much improvement in this ROMS performance, and it will still not give you Sony's Android 4.0, because that is a 2010 device too.
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Any Sony updates to ICS are ONLY for 2011 devices and newer, NOT for the x10 series of phones from 2010, like we have.
You can save up for the Xperia X10, but it will give you basically the same hardware platform as your X10MiniPro has now, so you won't see much improvement in this ROMS performance, and it will still not give you Sony's Android 4.0, because that is a 2010 device too.
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Thanks for the clarification! Do you think though that miniCM9 will run better on the xperia pro? I've been very impressed with minicms on the x10 mini pro, but running apps on top of it has been like goopy molasses. I'll give up the idea of running Sony 4.0 software on these little systems- honest, Cyanogenmod is lovely.
Trying to install miniCM7..
Thanks
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Thanks for the clarification! Do you think though that miniCM9 will run better on the xperia pro? I've been very impressed with minicms on the x10 mini pro, but running apps on top of it has been like goopy molasses. I'll give up the idea of running Sony 4.0 software on these little systems- honest, Cyanogenmod is lovely.
Trying to install miniCM7..
Thanks
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If the Xperia Pro (2011) handled ICS badly, Sony wouldn't have put out an upgrade for it, I bet CM9 and CM10 (JellyBean) will both run lovely on the Xperia Pro.
Trebuchet is really bad on our phones tbh. I replaced it with Nova launcher and That's great.
And JB runs faster than ICS on the robyn at least apparently so hopefully it will be great on here once we get it!
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Hi everyone.
I'm just thinking about buying a Xperia X10 mini pro for my wife. I went to the store to check but the screen looks really small. I was reading some reviews on the web but ther're not conclusive and always done with a fresh device.
Can someone post a brief review on the following topics?
1. How's speed after a certain usage?
2. Is the screen a limiting factor for some, many or really most android apps?
3. Will froyo be avaliable on this one in future?
4. Top 5 pros and cons?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Hi everyone.
I'm just thinking about buying a Xperia X10 mini pro for my wife. I went to the store to check but the screen looks really small. I was reading some reviews on the web but ther're not conclusive and always done with a fresh device.
Can someone post a brief review on the following topics?
1. How's speed after a certain usage?
2. Is the screen a limiting factor for some, many or really most android apps?
3. Will froyo be avaliable on this one in future?
4. Top 5 pros and cons?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Well i have the x10 mini for more than a month now and the speed is still very quick, very few lags. For the screen size and apps, i think there are a lot of available apps for the x10 mini's screen size, my only nag is that i can't access paid apps yet, not really the x10 mini's problem but the android market here in my country. With froyo I hope its coming but i dont think it'll be anytime soon since the eclair update will be coming only at the end of october
Top 5 pros
1. very pocket friendly
2. fast
3. nice ui
4. nice camera
5. not too expensive
Top 5 cons
1. only android 1.6 but i can't say that i'd benefit so much with the 2.1 update coz i can do everything i need to do with my x10 mini right now
2. battery life not great, mine can last up to two days sometimes though
3. its not amoled, its asking too much, but hey it would look great if it were amoled might make it slower though
ran out of cons ... well.. hope i helped even a bit
I can honestly say there are no cons except the battery life is not the best.
If you want a bigger screen dont buy a mini of course! lol
Big thanks my friends! It's for my wife. I think she will be ok with a smaller screen if the form factor is better than the "big male phones" as she says hehe.
The eclair is officialy coming end of October than?
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The eclair is officialy coming end of October than?
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thats what SE said, hopefully there'll be no further delays
Yep. I'm using it right now.
However, startup is very affected by application. There are alot of nasty app there which start as system starts, this lengthen my boot time. After that, it's just quick.
I think, it is the only Android device with best physical design. I know it has limitation with android version and screen size, but, it's worth the style, plus I'm not so enthusiast. So, it's so stylist.
For your information, I already rooted this device. So, should still be okay if you want to play with this device.
Very recommended.
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thats what SE said, hopefully there'll be no further delays
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This is SE we are talking about. They are worse than British Rail at delays: http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/01...e-november-plus-more-details-on-improvements/
PS: Sorry to give you a con, rather than a pro
Both of us have the pro version of this fone there a several pro and not many cons
Yes it has a small screen but it is a small device
We got the pro cause the keyboard makes it so much easier to type
About the only major con I can think of is the boot hasnt been cracked so we're stuck waiting for SE to realse an OS update. There are a few apps that wont work becuase they require 2.1 and wont run on 1.6
Hi all, bought my Xperia X10 a few weeks ago, liked design but dissapointed with OS, i didn't like Android at all, updated my phone to 2.1 but now I don't like it even worse because, I liked the lock screen on 1.6 some other features too, in addition Android Market is missing on my phone so very bad situation here. So I'm thinkin of installing any other OS on my phone for example Windows 6.5 or 7 , or I don't know Ubuntu or just something I'm very dissapointed with this phone!!! Please help and thanks beforehand.
Impossible to let it run on Windows mate, android is totally different. To compare the impossibility, you want to take pictures with a microwave...
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Yeah I know that it's different but I got very dissapointed that it doesnt have multitouch support, very bad sensors and many other things that has the phone which costs even less. I could have bought HTC or Samsung but I'm fan of SE. This is offtopic but have you got any nice players that read AVI' or other formats. Installer rockplayer but it's very laggy only 8-9 FPS :S Thanks mate
you should give it some time to get used to android, i must admit a stock X10 is not what it should be, but with some tweaks here and there its a superb device. I suggest you take a look at the forums here at XDA (JIT, Root, battery optimization, speed optimization, etc..)
And Multi-touch is incoming, so be patient.
be courage and do some mods
and you'll like the android OS
Thankw guys i'll try and appreciate u'r help
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This is offtopic but have you got any nice players that read AVI' or other formats. Installer rockplayer but it's very laggy only 8-9 FPS :S Thanks mate
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mVideoPlayer is pretty good.
giorgobiani554 said:
Yeah I know that it's different but I got very dissapointed that it doesnt have multitouch support, very bad sensors and many other things that has the phone which costs even less. I could have bought HTC or Samsung but I'm fan of SE. This is offtopic but have you got any nice players that read AVI' or other formats. Installer rockplayer but it's very laggy only 8-9 FPS :S Thanks mate
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rock player is fantastic on mine - i would consistently get well over 20fps. i think you will find that once you move away from the standard ROM you will be much more impressed. Try changing things like:
- Launcher (Launcher Pro or ADW) and remove stock launcher
- Root access - remove the standard crappy apps that you dont need.
- Baseband - update to the latest baseband for small increase in performance
- Custom ROM (using xRecovery Menu)
- JIT - gives big boost in 2.1 ROMS
I was like you, wanting winmo on the x10 cause i didn't like android now well android is good, I have skype which i can't have on winmo anymore, android is smoother you will like it trust me
do you have the lates update how
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I was like you, wanting winmo on the x10 cause i didn't like android now well android is good, I have skype which i can't have on winmo anymore, android is smoother you will like it trust me
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how did you get the update
I updated with SEUS . I don't risk installing any uneeded applications. I have just Adobe Photoshop, Skype, Teamviewer. I don't fill up my phone with rubbish. And by the way can I get default Memory Card content? I formatted it by mistake now I regret so wanted to get default content on it. I wondered if it's possible to install Android 2.2 or I don't know any Android version to get Android market or can anyone send my Android Market apk file Thanks
Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
are you sure?
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Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
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Knowing Sony.. they will never update our "old" mini/minipro..
They have to. Google posted new codex
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They have to. Google posted new codex
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I don't think so.
I suppose it apply just for "new" phones, not "old" ones
Doubt it: knowing Sony , theyll just say the original X10 mini never existed.
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hope this updated coming through
they will not update it the new mini and the new pro are completely different then the old mini and the old pro screen size ARM family and that ****
they will not make an update for old mini and pro coz the new mini and pro are realeased
We still have to write the official site!
While I would very much like an oficial update, it just wouldn't make any sense for a commercial point of view, even if the new Mini line was the same hardware, they want to sell more phones, not rehash old ones.
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
wOrHeR SvK said:
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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But the fix will come faster then sony updating it to 2.3 (chances of this: 0 XD)
sony doesnt care about old phones i dont care about them neither.
our phones works alot better with xda dev ROMs thanks to owain & slade and other devs you guys rock
Write your angry letters here
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
Пишем свои гневные письма сюда
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
What are the realistic factors limiting them in making an update for our Mini/MP's?
I understand that the hardware specs are different, but they both possess the same functionality and run the same features. If they're making the update for the x10, surely it wouldn't be too great a leap in tweaking it to release on a device thats pretty much exactly the same? I'm not a developer, but it just sounds like a cop out.
I understand that it is almost impossible that SE upgrades old minis.
But, as long as the new minis have android 2.3, I'm sure that it would be easier to develop a custom ROM based on that one.
Let's hope it's stable.
Yes but why? They're just a smaller version of the same phone but with slightly less impressive specs i.e. the x10 has a 1ghz processor, whilst the mini/MP has a 600mhz processor, which has been overclocked comfortably by a lot of guys here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075320
There is no realistic factor limiting them, its probably just their marketing department.
I thought we could create a thread dedicated to the upcoming new android version regarding the Xperia mini/mini pro and Ray.
Maybe here we could gather information about release dates, user interface thoughts and ideas, features etc.
Sounds like a good idea?
Peace
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I somehow think that Sony might pull a "We believe our stock 2.3 rom is the best ever. We see no reason to update" like they did with their older phones, and save it for their 2012 range.
Yeah possible, but then again they have stated that all the 2011 models will get ICS, and hopefully they have learned from the disaster with the X10.
But after spending some time searching the forums I'm starting to think that your scenario is pretty possible, sadly...
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Yes, I think the same My second phone is x10 mini pro and SE end support his on Android 2.1. Reason? Thats the best for this hardware. Now I have alternative rom an android 2.3.7 and it work faster like stock rom 2.1 Thanks for devalopers from xda.
hopefully
if they dont release it for 2011 xperias , hopefully the epic cool devs here will, as a custom rom
i'm an x8 user and they had me stuck on 2.1 and if they ever do this again to me ( i plan to get the xperia mini pro ), idk then next time i'm buying a phone i will consider that SE is invisible and have no existence in planet earth anymore lol , regardless of what so ever "super cool" looking handsets they might have available at the time......
if you like Android 4.0 theme, you can use
ICS Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.SyndicateApps.ICSv2
it's free app
I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I'm quite confident that it will come, eventually. Don't hold your breath on when exactly that will be, though I'm sure CM will beat them to it.
SE firmwares are somewhat backward compared to firmwares provided by samsung or htc in their devices. (eg. No smart dialing in my mini pro). And the timescape UI lacks many features (I don't need five home screens, but can't change it). I hope they will improve such minor details in forthcoming updates.
I've just been re-reading the official Sony comparison of their Gingerbread and ICS offering. This time I've had the chance to read more properly all the things they said. For the first time I actually have sympathy for Sony. The manufacturers bring out phones (e.g. SE) with the Xperias 2011 all running Gingerbread from the very start, then the next Google upgrade wipes out the phones. I owned the 2010 X10 Mini and our phone got wiped out the same way. It seems to me that we consumers do not benefit. Anyone who comes to this forum is already a bit of tech. nut, we are a very small population of the whole market, of course we want to try what's new and hot. But in this blog, Sony is explicitly saying that ICS is much, much more demanding on system resources and that we will definitely see a fall in performance, they clearly reference longer boot up time, apps force closing and stalling as well as poor video performance for different reasons that they explain in the blog.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Now I want to wait before I upgrade and check out the news. A few new icons and wallpapers is NOT good enough reason for me to upgrade. Better battery is a good reason to wait, which in that blog, Sony says you will get with Gingerbread over ICS. Do we really benefit here? Do we have to buy a new phone every year now, because Google is bumping up the demands of Android, like Microsoft did with Windows Vista? Windows 7 has less requirements than Vista, only slightly, and 8 has the same requirements as 7 so at least we could use the same laptop/pc for a few years. With Google, the way they are doing this is screwing us over I think.
For you, stay with Gingerbread, move to ICS, not sure or want to wait?
Ray users say they havent experienced any major bugs... Battery is definitely poor for now.....
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I think on the minis and active devices we have the advance of having a smaller resolution area while having almost the same hardware as the other xperia 2011
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They are really both very good points: we can look to the current Sony beta roms for more clues and it is true, our smaller screen being powered by the same CPU is an advantage. Perhaps we Mini users will have the least trouble amongst the 2011 Xperias?
Gingerbread would still be the most dominant OS, due to its stability on most phones,
having a new OS or phone is not always the best option.
I really thank the devs here in XDA, they are keeping old phones alive,
giving us a chance to have a taste of the new flavor and further improving stock OS on current phones.
I just recently read about the Xperia S Rom ported to Xperia X10 here, how cool is that...?
I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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you can always remove the bloatwares , though of course with custom roms we can do a lot of things which are still restricted even with a rooted stock rom
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I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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If you want a different UI, just use a different home.apk? Just saying...
But yea i'm with the OP on these thoughts, have had the same thoughts for quite some time now. The thing is, we can make ICS faster on our devices just as we did with GB, but... How stable will the non-stock ICS roms be? Honestly I would rather see MIUI roms derived from GB as a base than ICS. A lot more stable with less bugs. Even the MIUI roms aren't AOSP based (as are official MIUI releases), they are FXP based roms. So, all in all we are between Stock and FXP releases.
I am not bashing on people working on developing MIUI and various ICS based roms, but like the OP, i'd rather have stability over "new features", such as full HW acceleration, which can be triggered using a variable in GB too (mind you that uses more juice).
I am going to seriously think about moving Spartan Rom from stock GB rom as a source, to stock ICS as a source.
Even if the battery consumption, which in my list of priorities for a fully functional rom is the highest in the list, is sub-par, I wont be switching over to ICS personally.
@drumraden if you see about other devices there are lots of stable roms are available (mostly aosp based, even I am using a stable custom rom for my Xoom)
We just need to give time to the devs to come up with stable ice roms.
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You don't get my point.
The only reason to build an MIUI from ICS sources, is for the **** of saying its ICS therefore updated.
Yeah as for battery drain, I'm afraid Sony says on that site above that battery will be less durable with official ICS. What a shame. The discussion here though is really making me thing about all of this.
Yeah I am seriously thinking of going back to gb as soon as there is a good miui rom I am right now on ics because there is only one really stable miui release for the lww and it is ics but i really prefer better battery life.
On the other hand I prefer ics over hb a thousand times on my tab but it has like 7 times the battery of my phone so I have no issue with that.
I'll prefer ICS when main apps start to requires ICS.
While the requirements surround the GB I'll stick with it.
But it's nice to know that if it occurs my phone will be ready.
That's why I bought my mini-pro.
Personally, I will first give it a try. Then we will see, if it deserves to stay on my LWW or not...
yup ... sure will giv official a try ... but the best rom on gb wud be miui .... is that project still going on or has been dumped ?
i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
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i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
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I like the sound of that....perfect functionality and stunning visuals, yes.
Yup it feels tooo good..... Had it on ace.... Beautiful and fast......
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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One simple question... How much battery %/hour does the rom you have installed consume in standby mode with all radios except mobile turned off.
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