Related
Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
My mom have the iPad 2 and I love Honeycomb but when compared to iOS its missing a whole lot, especially on apps.
Honeycomb is a new OS for tablets and I see it growing in the future and apps are slowly being ported and optimized for Honeycomb tablets. iOS has been in the market for a while and honeycomb has got some catching up to do.
Buy a tablet for what it is now instead of expecting something out of it and just getting frustrated waiting for an app. I bout a zune HD thinking it will go toe to toe with the iPod touch but was just disappointed and ended up selling it and buying the iPod touch.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium App
Other than the infamous lag when typing in forums, keyboard speed is fine in every application I've used so far. For some the forum thing is a big deal, and I've worked around it for now by using a remote desktop app if I really feel the need to post an essay using the tab, but obviously that isn't ideal.
As for the keyboard itself, there are plenty to choose from. Swiftkey, Thumb Keyboard and Swype are all excellent alternatives if you don't like the stock HC keyboard or the Samsung one.
The tab comes with Quick Office pre-installed and that will do the job if you want to take notes and read documents. There are about a half dozen office suites and each have their pro's and con's, if you want to learn more about them there is a good comparison thread over at the Asus Transformer forums. They all have a ways to go though before they're suitable for real work with documents however.
For IT, I imagine apps like LogMeIn, Wyse Pocket Cloud, Overlook Fing, andSMB, SharesFinder, ASProxy, Connect Bot, etc would be useful.
to give you an honest answer stick with the Ipad. Everyone on here will try to give you a reach around about why the TAB is so great. But quite frankly in its current state its not. I'm typing this on my tab right now and am getting pissed that my words are showing up well after I press the keys. There are NO USEFULL ANDROID TABLET APPS available at this time. You want proof. Go to the marketplace and see if you van even tell the difference between what is a table app and what isn't. Some tablet apps even have disclaimers stating they aren't even compatible with the GT yet. I purchased my tab because I'm believing in the Modding community will one day provide me with the goodies I crave for use on what is a very (hardware) capable device. But if you want somethingthat just works right now... get an IPAD.
I am still so much on the fence about the GT 10.1 I have a hard time even trying to formulate a reply to this. As I think I go back and forth every 5 minutes.
GT 10.1
+ Android is open, open file system, third party app stores/markets.
+ Wide screen display, higher resolution, and stereo speakers great for videos.
+ Highly customizable with widgets.
+ XDA community usually does great job with custom ROMs.
+ Google apps and Amazon CloudDrive and App Store are great.
- Android 3 is a rush job, screen response not great (not bad either), keyboard lag.
- App crashes and random reboots rare, but happen more than they should.
- Tablet app select still small, and Android app versions sometimes inferior to iOS.
- Uncertainty when Samsung might push the Android 4.0 update, they've been ver slow in the past.
- No Netflix
iPad 2 (I own an iPad 1, so this is mostly about iOS)
+ Over a year head start in tablets, lots of quality apps.
+ iOS versions of some apps are better, Tweetdeck, Tune In Radio, Taptu, etc.
+ Netflix, Hulu Plus (don't care for Hulu, but really miss Netflix on my GT 10.1)
+ iOS very responsive and smooth.
+ Square screen ratio nice for browsing, ebooks.
+ Apple makes software and hardware, so dependable updates.
- No file system access, must use iTunes (usually) to transfer files.
- Google, YouTube apps sucks on iOS.
- No third party application markets (no good Jailbreak for iPad 2, so no Cydia).
- Lower res display, 512MB of RAM.
HG! said:
Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello!
My friend owns the iPad/iPad 2 and I use them regularly when I'm at his house as he has multiple. I own a Galaxy Tab 7" and 10.1 myself. Here's my personal opinion:
The iPad had a significant build quality difference between it and the 7" Tab. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 corrects this, but it's still very difficult to beat a uniform metal structure versus a plastic one. This will boil down to whether you prefer a higher build quality, or a lighter device. The 10.1 is way lighter, the iPad 2's build quality is better.
As far as applications go... iOS tablet-centric apps blows Android out of the water. There is no denying this. You can still get any application you need on both platforms, but the higher resolution ones on the iPad are way more numerous. Here's to hoping this changes soon for Honeycomb.
As far as operating systems go... Honeycomb is ages beyond iOS in terms of a more desktop-like feel on a Tablet and less of a phone-like feel. iOS 5 does little to correct this. You will find the OS itself much more pleasant on a Honeycomb tablet.
Hardware: The processor in the iPad 2 is fast. The processor in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is fast. I don't see any speed differences between the two, except for the browser. The lead Google put in Android 2.2 shows heavily with the UI optimized for Tablets. Also, the Tegra 2 processor is the first processor I can say having Flash is a definitive advantage. I can stream HD videos from Flash sources on the web (ABC, Crunchyroll, etc) with very little to no stuttering. Props to NVidia here. I could probably do a video for you, if you were interested.
The back camera on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is far superior, though I don't think you'll be using it very often when cameras on phones are smaller and easier to use. Just my opinion.
Last but not least: I really dislike the iPad (iOS 4) and Google's default keyboard on Tablets. They are extremely hard to use while handling the device. I use Swiftkey Tablet X on my 7" and 10.1" Tab and LOVE it. If you keep your iPad 2 I really suggest you get iOS 5 on it to take advantage of the split keyboard effect. It makes typing far easier. If you do go back and get a Google-based Tab, drop their crappy keyboard and get Swiftkey X. It's in beta - I can send you the apk if you do end up going that route. Just PM me.
[Edit] Quick edit after reading Ravynmagi's post - not having Netflix is a HUGE HUGE bummer. There's no word on it coming to Honeycomb either, so don't hold your breath[/Edit]
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
bbeelzebub said:
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
Ravynmagi said:
That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check the support forums at the Apple site. Sure hasn't.
I don't like Ipads. It feels like you are stuck into the app drawer forever.
Sure, there are tons of apps for tablets but everything else is below 10.1 standards.
It starts with the homescreen, over to multitasking abilities and ends in hardware.
And a 4:3 screen is a no go. Every media is made for 16:9 or 16:10, have fun watching movies on that. Ipad2 feels like an ancient TV.
And web without flash? Seriously? That also means no browser games which all are high resolution and made for PC !
Ipads are just for the fancy glamour aspect. The apps look better, for example ebook readers are nicer animated. But I am a purist, I don't want animations around my text, I want a nice and huge display. Why buy 10.1 if half of your screen is used up by showing virutal pages?
The fact that Honeycomb doesn't have many good apps and Tegra 2 seems pretty poor overall (poor video/codec playing, maybe be an OS issue though) I would get an iPad. It will just be a smoother/better experience.
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
I was debating between these 2 devices and in the end I chose the IPAD2. I really wanted to go with Android, but right now its just not ready for "primetime" just yet. I may revisit this when ICS comes out and the Android Tablets and Apps have become more mature. Much like when Android came out, you are goign to ahve to do a lot fo work to get it to do what you want to do. I think the GTAB has great potential, its the OS that holds it back. App conversion\creation has been very slow so far, which is another drawback.
As others have said though, take account of what you want to do with the tablet and what apps you will use. Then go through both tablets and see what will suit your needs. You cant go wrong with either as both have their negative and positive attributes. Whichever is going to fit your needs the best is the one to get, everyone has different needs and wants, so everyone will have a differing opinion.
I can say though that I have not been disappointed with my decision. I still come here and lurk to see what the current state of the GTAB is though as it still sparks my interest and I want it to succeed.
SR45 said:
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My experience is quality has usually been lower on the Android side. Either the Android version has fewer features or is less stable or not even compatible with your device. Fragmentation is a real ***** on Android right now and quality is suffering because of it.
I really don't see an argument for Android having an advantage on the app side. That's going to be the iPad's strong point for quite some time.
But I do agree, plenty of people can find good quality apps that suit their needs and be completely happy.
honeycomb really suck balls! i have to have 3 different browsers installed to do what a normal browser does
firefox to download stuff (if u disagree, try using some other browser to download from filesonic/hotfiles)
skyfire to view flash sites
and the ever temperamental stock browser
why am i able to do the above with any browser froyo/gingerbread but not honeycomb?
typing in username/password is a nightmare, tap a key --> wait for the character to appear --> type the next key.. honestly if u want to try out android, get yourself an android phone, avoid honeycomb tablets for the time being
SR45 said:
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ipad has a lot of useful and quality apps compared to the less than a hundred apps that honeycomb offer.
I'm not talking about games because the tablet optimized games that honeycomb/tegra have are awesome but when it comes to apps for specific tasks they have very limited selection and not a lot of them are comparable to the ipad app counterpart.
I'm talking about finance apps like iReconcile for iPad and portfolio apps for photographers.
I have not seen one portfolio app for honeycomb and ipad have a color calibration app made by datacolor called SpyderGallery but non existent on the honeycomb.
I'm just saying that honeycomb might be good for someone that want to do basic stuff on their tablet but if you want a task specific app, the ipad has them and honeycomb desn't have them but doesn't mean they're not going to have them in the future.
I think that we're going to see a lot of apps ported to honeycomb by the end of the year.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium App
I've played with the ipad & currently own a GT 10.1. For me (& I think Rayvnmagi summed it all up nicely), the two greatest advantages of Honeycomb are media (ability to play Flash & higher resolution video) and the mod-ability (I just bought an Epic 4G -- $30 on Amazon! -- and I haven't stopped playing with ROMs since; something I could never do with my iphone 3GS).
Yes, the apps are decidedly not there. Yes, the keyboard lag is awful when typing in forums, etc. I'm willing to put up with that for now because I know two things: 1) the fellas here at xda are awesome & will most likely come out with a fix in the near future & 2) Google handed out GT 10.1 developer editions to everyone at its developer conference. That can only be a good thing in terms of app development for the GT 10.1.
All that being said, I actually recommended my dad (NOT a techie) get an ipad 2. He's not as tech-savvy, and he's of the mindset that things should just work. The ipad has established itself as a very stable platform that works (usually) without a hitch & I have a feeling if he'd gotten a GT 10.1, he would have had several headaches & never used it.
So, I feel like in the end, it really depends on your usage preference--do you want an established tech with a little bit lower specs or do you want the newer tech with more bugs but better specs?
My problem with the tab right now has nothing to do with apps etc etc. That stuff will eventually come, just a little time.
My problem is with lag, video playback issues, and the fact that samsung does not like to update their products to push you to buy new ones. Even if google fixes all the issues currently with the tablets, there is no guarantee samsung will give us that update.
Samsung's flagship phone (galaxy s) has yet to get the ota froyo update. If you send your phone back in for a warranty repair, yes you will receive a refurbed one with froyo or you can get it through kies if you are aware of it's existence. Yet the new $70 samsung exhibit is just a replay of the vibrant but with gingerbread!
I don't know about the other manufacturers, but I don't expect the tab to improve much more than it has now. There will most likely be a new tablet from samsung in the fall to winter season sporting icecream sandwich...if that happens, forget updates!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
SR45 said:
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I laugh at this comment because androids tablets apps are lacking in BOTH QUALITY and QUANTITY. Seriously dude you set ursrlf up for that.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
The problem with the iPad is that once you buy into the Apple infrastructure if you buy a decent quality of apps you're locked into them forever unless you want to start over again. Personally I love the flexibility of Android and will never go back to having an iPhone (which I used to have).
When Exchange didn't work with my corporate server with my iPhone I was out of luck. With my Droid X I had the same problem but was able to download Touchdown which works fine. To me, that flexibility makes it more worthwhile to stay with Android and lose out on the over abundance of "fart apps" in the Apple app store.
Hi,
just got SGT 3G 10.1 to write a review. Since my everyday device is iPad (1) and a while back I have decided I will wait Tegra 2 devices out I got few simple questions I need help with (because of the different system):
- how do I put Netflix app on this thing?
- how do I hack Hulu (I do not have Hulu Plus)?
- I got Dice player (trial) and it works nicely with my NAS storage but it is a trial :-( I do not want to spend cash on software since I do not have any Android device currently - so.. is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
- is there any nice (free) RSS reader (like Mobile RSS for iPad)
- any other way to watch NBC or ABC (there are apps for iPad) than through browser?
- do you guys use stock browser or is there any better free alternative (heard rumours that proper Chrome is coming - lucky you!!)
Do your SGT's get warm at the back (area below on/off switch)?
Thanks for help, in advance!
Are you planning to review the SGT 10.1 also .....?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Also?
No, just.
But I am interested in those things for myself as well. A while back I decided to go with iPad 1 instead of SGT. Now, since I got it for a longer period of time I also want to know if I made a right choice.
galtom said:
Hi,
just got SGT 3G 10.1 to write a review. Since my everyday device is iPad (1) and a while back I have decided I will wait Tegra 2 devices out I got few simple questions I need help with (because of the different system):
- how do I put Netflix app on this thing?
- how do I hack Hulu (I do not have Hulu Plus)?
- I got Dice player (trial) and it works nicely with my NAS storage but it is a trial :-( I do not want to spend cash on software since I do not have any Android device currently - so.. is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
- is there any nice (free) RSS reader (like Mobile RSS for iPad)
- any other way to watch NBC or ABC (there are apps for iPad) than through browser?
- do you guys use stock browser or is there any better free alternative (heard rumours that proper Chrome is coming - lucky you!!)
Do your SGT's get warm at the back (area below on/off switch)?
Thanks for help, in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every single question you asked above literally has had it own thread started. You don't even have to use the search function, just scroll down a few posts. You'll find every answer to each of you questions and beable to join in on the discussions there. No real need to start a new post just join in on those posts, it'll make it alot easier for you to find the info your looking for.
galtom said:
Also?
No, just.
But I am interested in those things for myself as well. A while back I decided to go with iPad 1 instead of SGT. Now, since I got it for a longer period of time I also want to know if I made a right choice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what your saying is that your not really planning on doing a review on the Tab 10.1??? The title of your post confuses me a bit then.
And since you have both the iPad and a Tab wouldn't it be easy to see if you made the right choice for yourself. You have both devices right in front of you to compare. "The right choice" is really dependant on how you plan to use and what your looking for from your device. Everyone expects and demands a little something different from the devices they choose. Case in point, my wife wanted a tablet that she could play games on, check her email and shop online with. I wanted a tablet that I could tweek to were I could use it for not only personal things like media, browsing and gaming but also easily setup to use for work as well. She opted for the iPad 2 for its ease of setup and use, I opted for the Tab 10.1 for its ability to customize it to my exact needs.
The right choice is for you and only you to make in the end... Your the one who has to use it everyday.
Sent from my Galaxy10.1 TouchWiz/ADWex equipped Starship.
No, no. Sorry for misunderstanding. I am definitely doing SGT 10.1 review.
galtom said:
is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try MX Palyer.
What software version does your tab have? I ask because older versions are really laggy. Install KI1 and you will get a really smooth device, you can find it in development forum.
RSS reader, try Pulse.
I'm using the stock browser. Make sure you enable plug ins in settings, otherwise flash won't work.
You can find the Netflix apk in apps forum.
I found a link to Netflix app on transformer forum. Downloaded, installed - does not work :-(.
After logging in I got error message about stream (will let you know the no later on as I do not have the device with me).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=93644018 - this is all I found about hulu - not much (I entered Hulu Hack).
BTW: how to get apps that have regional restricition, with iTunes it is easy, one just needs to setup new account. Same with Android Market?
Software on this tab shows HC 3.1 and it is laggy as hell. When going out from settings to home screen it takes a bit to draw all the widgets and first few swipes between desktops are far from smooth
Al the time I find its screen a bit less responsive than at iPad - has any one else similar feeling/response?
And let me ask again - back of the device I got gets quite warm, enough to get sweaty fingers which makes holding the device not very pleasant.
I think manufacturers should make teir tablets as light as possible but a bit thicker (not like Xoom or Thrive) but a bit chunkier than iPad2 or SGT 10.1.
But my overall experience so far is good - funny thing about screens. As there is difference between iPad and SGT in resolution (and fonts and screen size) I find it easier to surf the net with ipad (I use iPad 99% of the time in horizontal position with "Home" button on the side), like everything on the screen a wee bit bigger and easier to read. On the other hand when it comes to pictures and movies SGT looks better.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Sorry my bad.
Umm Netflix is on the market. Most of these questions are android related and not specific to the tab. I encourage you to try out apps and read the forums like the rest of us if you want a true review. The beauty of android is its ability to be customized. Take some time to make the device truly yours then review it.
I appreciate your comment, that is exactly what I am trying to do. Unfortunately I can not find the information I am looking for. I have tried "search" and entered there both "key words" Netflix and Hulu - so far no luck.
If Netflix app is in the market it is ot available to me as I'm am not in the USA. I have to admit that it is much easier with iOS. Especially for someone fresh.
I have had both and got rid of the ipad2. My main reason, though, was I needed openvpn and couldn't wait for a jailbreak for the ipad2 to come out since mine was new enough to already have 4.2.5 on it, no SHSH blobs.
That said I ditched my iPhone for a captivate, so I should have known already
Hi all,
Was just wondering if it's worth me swapping my iPad 2 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I've had a quick (really quick) play around on the 10.1, but the screen doesn't seem very responsive and smooth compared to the iPad 2.
I'm in no way at all an Apple fan boy, I much prefer Android as an operating system which is why I have an HTC Sensation, but I'm in 2 minds what to do.
Can the 10.1 be tweaked to actually respond to the stylus I use with my iPad 2?
Please Help
Yes, you should swap the iPad for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. I have been enjoying mine since I got and have had no issues it is really smooth, in fact it feel smoother than the iPad. It is a great devices and with android and not being locked up like iOS it makes it even better!
Sent from my GT-P7510 using xda premium
Do you know which models are affected by the 'oil slick' problem?
From a truly non-biased point of view, I think the best answer is "it's up to you alone to decide".
What do you currently use your tablet for? What would you like to use it for in the future? Considering you're active here, I'm guessing there's a chance you'll want to root and ROM your Tab, are you waiting on the iPad2 jailbreak? Is that critical to you?
When I got my Tab I knew I was going to root and ROM from the start, I already had a jailbroken iPhone and wanted to see what all the fuss was about with Android. I consider myself a power user and I enjoyed exploring the nooks and crannies of the iPhone on my own, with my Tab most of it was documented somewhere.
I mainly use my Tab for reading techincal ebooks during my commute, and for reading my RSS and browsing when I'm too lazy to get out of bed. I didn't like the iPad's portrait interface which just looked like a blown up iPhone's. I was doing research on one at work and the more I used it, the more niggles I found I had with the way it treated me like a basic user. The fact I wasn't planning to game too much (if at all) was another reason I leaned towards my Tab.
As my sig shows, I liked Android so much I stuck around and got the GNex too.
P.S. My Tab has the oil slick problem. It's annoying to know my gear is technically faulty, but I can honestly not see the issue while the backlight is on.
The screen size really suited my and so did the weight for the tab 10.1
It really is up to you, but to be honest, you don't know the tab's full capabilities yet as it's not got an official ICS build yet!
i dont want to hijack this thread but i have a very small question so creating a new thread would be totally waste.
1)can any one tell me about availability of games on galaxy tab 10.1 compared to ipad2??
2) will Cm9 officially support Tab10.1??
3) can i play 720p mkv videos with softsubs without any problem?? My MKVs are generally H.264+AC3/AAC. I dont care if i have to buy a player to do it.
I am really confused between ipad2 and galaxy tab 10.1. HAve to buy any one of two.
el3ctrik said:
From a truly non-biased point of view, I think the best answer is "it's up to you alone to decide".
What do you currently use your tablet for? What would you like to use it for in the future? Considering you're active here, I'm guessing there's a chance you'll want to root and ROM your Tab, are you waiting on the iPad2 jailbreak? Is that critical to you?
When I got my Tab I knew I was going to root and ROM from the start, I already had a jailbroken iPhone and wanted to see what all the fuss was about with Android. I consider myself a power user and I enjoyed exploring the nooks and crannies of the iPhone on my own, with my Tab most of it was documented somewhere.
I mainly use my Tab for reading techincal ebooks during my commute, and for reading my RSS and browsing when I'm too lazy to get out of bed. I didn't like the iPad's portrait interface which just looked like a blown up iPhone's. I was doing research on one at work and the more I used it, the more niggles I found I had with the way it treated me like a basic user. The fact I wasn't planning to game too much (if at all) was another reason I leaned towards my Tab.
As my sig shows, I liked Android so much I stuck around and got the GNex too.
P.S. My Tab has the oil slick problem. It's annoying to know my gear is technically faulty, but I can honestly not see the issue while the backlight is on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the informative reply.
Yes, indeed I was waiting for the iPad 2 jailbreak, but it looks like they've hit another hurdle,so I'm not holding my breath no more!
I do like the games on the iPad 2, some of them are fantastic, but Android seem to be lacking in the game department area.
They only have the following tablet apps listed on the android website:-
https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_tablet_featured&start=0&num=24
The camera on the iPad 2 is shocking, it's not even worth having one on there,not in low light conditions anyway.
Still in 2 minds what to do. I have android on my HTC Sensation, so do I need it on a tablet too.....
Arrrgggggghhhhhhhhh
kingkij said:
i dont want to hijack this thread but i have a very small question so creating a new thread would be totally waste.
1)can any one tell me about availability of games on galaxy tab 10.1 compared to ipad2??
2) will Cm9 officially support Tab10.1??
3) can i play 720p mkv videos with softsubs without any problem?? My MKVs are generally H.264+AC3/AAC. I dont care if i have to buy a player to do it.
I am really confused between ipad2 and galaxy tab 10.1. HAve to buy any one of two.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) Games exist and run on both devices, sometimes the same game is on both iOS and Android, sometimes they are device specific. Don't really know what you're asking?
2) Yes, and there's a preview version available on the Tab 10.1 Dev forum right now, I have it installed.
3) Yes, I think so. Although I'm not entirely certain as I don't watch videos too much on mine, unless they're Youtube embedded in a webpage/RSS. There's something for the GNex out now though, that I have a memory someone saying they were running it on their SGT10.1 too. And I'm not 100% sure about subs tbh.
---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:55 AM ----------
kurtish said:
Thanks for the informative reply.
Yes, indeed I was waiting for the iPad 2 jailbreak, but it looks like they've hit another hurdle,so I'm not holding my breath no more!
I do like the games on the iPad 2, some of them are fantastic, but Android seem to be lacking in the game department area.
They only have the following tablet apps listed on the android website:-
https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_tablet_featured&start=0&num=24
The camera on the iPad 2 is shocking, it's not even worth having one on there,not in low light conditions anyway.
Still in 2 minds what to do. I have android on my HTC Sensation, so do I need it on a tablet too.....
Arrrgggggghhhhhhhhh
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used this list for a long time to find 10.1" HC-optimised apps: http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/motorola-xoom-apps/570-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list.html
(Note how I say optimised, not compatiable - if you're on Android 3.2 or later, there's a difference as they included a feature to expand phone apps to take up the whole screen).
The link you provided is the "Featured Tablet Apps" list, but I do feel there is less tablet-specific apps available for Android compared to iOS. However, the ones I need for my daily use exist, so that fact isn't such an issue to me. And it's hopefully only going to get better as devs move to the GNex and develop on a SDK that encourages phone and tablet interfaces to be designed and used in a single app download.
I don't use my camera on my Tab, so can't help you there...sorry.
Hi folks
I just decided to buy my brand new 1st tablet and i need some help here.... i cant decide about those two
Transformer Pad 300 x Toshiba Excite AT305 (as long im noob i cant post the link to the gsmarena comparing both... sorry =\)
im very impressed with both... but we always will have pros and cons
toshiba at305
pro
- has more ports available than asus
- better stereo speaker built-in (SRS sound enhancement)
- better proc and better GPU
- reads sd/microsd
cons
asus has a better UI ( will we have the Chameleon UI available soon???)
Asus transformer 300
pro
- LTE support
- 16GB ROM
- a better camera but NO FLASH as long toshiba has
- sns integration
- sms, mms available
- better display
cons
- again.. no flash camera (i never know when i will need this flash camera)
i'm totally NOT interested in dock stations or anything like that... i already have a nice dell xps i7 with me wherever i'm.. im looking for a nice tablet to read something on my free time or watch some video lessons easier while im on the bus or somewhere else....
Asus is at least 60 dollars cheaper than toshiba... but.. as long i already saved the money to buy the toshiba... there is no diff to me to spend this money or not.... =\
and my doubts are:
1. can i install any ics on my tablet or only the the ics for that tablet? like... if i want to install the stock rom or any other else, like samsung tab or other ones.. it will brick my tablet?
2. anyone has one of these tablets? if yes, mind to say something about them?
3. is there any custom rom for toshiba? i couldn't find any...
4. and custom rom for asus?
Thanks for help folks!!! =)
Based on the comparison: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4692&idPhone2=4596, the Toshiba Excite AT305 is a better choice. No, you cannot install any ICS on your tab; it has to be made specifically for it. You can keep check here for any roms which may come for the Transformer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1582, but none for the Excite yet. You may also want to consider something other than your choices (if you want the tab for modding and flashing roms) which has more development and similar specs e.g. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1414.
Theonew said:
Based on the comparison: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4692&idPhone2=4596, the Toshiba Excite AT305 is a better choice. No, you cannot install any ICS on your tab; it has to be made specifically for it. You can keep check here for any roms which may come for the Transformer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1582, but none for the Excite yet. You may also want to consider something other than your choices (if you want the tab for modding and flashing roms) which has more development and similar specs e.g. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1414.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for reply... i've noticed this Transformer Prime thread before but there is any custom roms yet (or perhaps im a totally noob on android area and i couldnt notice if there is a rom for that)... they have some blob files, tweaks, root, and downgrade.. anything like in the Samsung Galaxy Tab thread, where they have loads of custom roms over there...
and... about the ics... even the stock one... i cant?? and, do you think if has any chance to come any nice custom roms to toshiba like we have to asus and samsung? because, as long toshiba doesnt has too much ""expertise"" in tablet field (apart thrive) i dont know if we can expect a large crowd to buy this new awesome tablet....
thanks!
another doubt
can i send sms/mms and use as phone thru some of both?? or maybe both???
Thanks!
any more help here please? =)
If you have a laptop+smartphone, it's not like you need a tablet now. So I'm personally waiting until next year to buy one. By then Quad core would be more common and cheaper and I want to see how w8 tablets will perform.
soulburnerms said:
thanks for reply... i've noticed this Transformer Prime thread before but there is any custom roms yet (or perhaps im a totally noob on android area and i couldnt notice if there is a rom for that)... they have some blob files, tweaks, root, and downgrade.. anything like in the Samsung Galaxy Tab thread, where they have loads of custom roms over there...
and... about the ics... even the stock one... i cant?? and, do you think if has any chance to come any nice custom roms to toshiba like we have to asus and samsung? because, as long toshiba doesnt has too much ""expertise"" in tablet field (apart thrive) i dont know if we can expect a large crowd to buy this new awesome tablet....
thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are custom roms available for the Prime (Here are a few: Virtuous Prime, SKANKWICH CM9, and Team Eos Transformer Prime Nightlies. Yes, i'm sure you cannot use another device's rom on your device (unless they have the same - or very similar - hardware e.g. A100 and A500).
Adoxo said:
If you have a laptop+smartphone, it's not like you need a tablet now. So I'm personally waiting until next year to buy one. By then Quad core would be more common and cheaper and I want to see how w8 tablets will perform.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah... i have a laptop and my smartphone is a nokia 5800... so.. its not so that smart.. eheheh =)... i want to buy a tablet because i waste at least 2 to 2 hours and half in bus every single day... so.. i want to study during this time... i have loads and loads of pdfs to read and video lessons to watch and while im at home is almost impossible to do this... so... at least if im in the bus im alone and i can study or read... or do anything else i cant do in my laptop ((just because weights around 3,5kg... its not so good to stand this in my legs and so on))... so... thats why i want to buy a tablet... watch some stuffs... reads another stuffs.... casually watch a nice movie or listen music... its more to study... and... as long the asus is cheap worth it... but i loved the stereo speakers on toshiba and some stuffs also....
see? im quite confused here =\
Theonew said:
There are custom roms available for the Prime (Here are a few: Virtuous Prime, SKANKWICH CM9, and Team Eos Transformer Prime Nightlies. Yes, i'm sure you cannot use another device's rom on your device (unless they have the same - or very similar - hardware e.g. A100 and A500).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks very very much for those topics.... in the SKANKWICH i read what i was trying to find... if its really possible to send sms/mms/phone calls
* Phone: add voicemail notification setting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
* Mms: Add an option to disable the transformation from SMS to MMS when the lenght of the message is > 3 sms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is this is possible in the toshiba???
why i asked again if its possible to get the UI from samsung or asus... because i have this same topic in another big forum and a user there said
Unless someone or you yourself makes custom roms with htc or samsung ui on top of it - you cannot directly flash the firmwares of other devices on to it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is this really proceeds or its just a jabber??
sorry for ask so much.. its because this kind of stuff in my country is very... very... very pricey.... i mean.... really... really pricey... so.. as long my mom is in usa i have only one shot to buy this... i cant go there just to change to another one even if i wanted....
thanks for reply!! =)
guys...
i was reading here - http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Asus-Transformer-Pad-TF300.htm - that this Asus DOES NOT has Gorilla Glass.... is this is for real??? if yes i dont want to buy this one.... who wants a expensive tablet without Gorilla Glass???
im really about to buy the toshiba one... despite my fear to cant find nice custom roms as we can find to samsung tab or asus prime....
thanks! =)
guys
after i discovered the lack of 3g ((i'd rather a 3G than wi-fi, because i can use 3g anytime, but i cant use wi-fi anytime, most part of my day im not at my job, sometimes im visiting a customer of something, so i need 3G)) on Toshiba AT305, i started to find another tablet, and i founded the Motorola Xoom 2... but this one has some faults, like:
cons
1. no ics til July
2. the charger is the same port of usb, so, if i use something ((like a external hard drive)) i need to check if the battery is good enough...
3. no full sd port
4. no orientation lock button
5. no ics custom roms anywhere
cons
1. some kind of waterproof protection
2. if i buy motorola in my country i have warranty, toshiba not
so... which one i chose:
the one ((toshiba at305)) that was released this month and i can upgrade to JellyBean after its launch and i will still be missing 3g OR i get one where i have 3G + wifi + some nice stuffs BUT probably i will no get JellyBean update and i will still be missing some nice features from toshiba?
Which one do you chose?
Thanks!!
anyone else to help me out here???
Thanks! =)
ITS DONE!!!
MY INDECISION JUST GONE!!
I just bought these items
Toshiba Excite 10 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007OWZRC8
USB Host Cable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006XL26TS
Pen - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YIFOZK
Case - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ZXJYD4 - despite i wish to find a gel one or something alike but i couldnt... like iphone cases.... so.. i got a fiber one anyway... =\
In a few days i will do a review about my new gadget!!
Thanks so much for everyone who helped me a LOT!!! Really really thanks!!
Cheers!!! =)
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda app-developers app
freelancer81 said:
I wouldn't root it immediately.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
jumper62 said:
The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NerdiX said:
Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your concern.
Yeah...I have thought about it too.
But the price is about more than double...
Rs. 19,990 for Sony Tablet S and Rs. 46,990 for Xperia Tab Z
That was too much for me...
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive. All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android. I do not foresee Sony releasing anymore firmware updates for the STS, but then again, my tablets perform well and do what they were specified to do, so are any updates really necessary? No, not in my opinion. So, if you know what the STS can and cannot do, and you feel it will meet your needs, then I say buy it.
I also own a Sony Xperia Tablet Z. The XTZ display-wise and performance-wise is a better tablet than the STS; however, hardware-wise it fails in comparison with the STS when it comes to port access and ruggedness. The XTZ is a dainty tablet, the STS is a manly tablet.
Cat McGowan said:
The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Cat McGowan!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts....It means a lot with all the hype going on that this STS is costly and have no future since it will not support newer android versions.
You have made me really stand steadfast and want to own it all the more!
I have two laptops, a PC (all Core i7 processors)....if i needed any horse-powered work done, I have those.
The STS will just be a take-a-break device while lazying on the couch or bed with a movie or two and some light entertainments/games or when I am commuting.
I must admire you for owning 4 STSs!!!!!
Cat McGowan said:
All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does it support 3G?
From Sony India's website, I see that the one I am about to buy is Android™ 3.2.with WiFi and 3G.
Cat McGowan said:
two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am yet to reach that stage :laugh: but my daughter is going to be 4 this August. The way she's meddling with my phone, she'll be the absolute owner of the tablet once I buy it.
Ubichinon said:
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah...you are right.
But as I have said, the upgrading (to JB) is not an issue with me. I believe it gives me all I want plus something which is rare on other devices - the IR Blaster feature. Maybe Samsung has got it in the new devices but they costs too much.
For me, though it may be an average device with average component/hardware with average performance with no future support/update/upgrade, it has all that I need in one neat package.
Thanks for your concern though....cheers!!!
so so sad....
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is the highest price you would pay for a tablet?, I found a few.
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda premium
andyabc said:
I found a few.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
freelancer81 said:
I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 since it is the latest.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
freelancer81 said:
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The S-pen is just amazing on the Note 10.1 Id advice you to get it.
freelancer81 said:
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah it can be a bit difficult deciding between 2 good devices.
It is either the Atom processor or the S-Pen.
The S-Pen seems pretty awesome but in the same time the Atom processor will give it a ultimate boost in performance.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
You know what...these companies just toy with us.
You will not find any device with all the good/best features.
They will add a particular feature to one model/device only, and another new feature to a different model/device.
Everyone would be happy if they put all their eggs in one basket!!
Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
Warren_Orange said:
Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the concern and insight.
Anyway, I've just place an order for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-N8000 for Rs.36000 INR (about $591.73 USD)
Thanks everyone for all your help in making the decision.
I guess I will now be active in the GT-N8000 forum now...see you all there!:highfive::highfive::highfive:
The sony tablet S was the worst decision I made.
The sdcard handling still sucks. No custom roms possible. Sony refuses to update it at all. And so on. Ill never ever again buy a android product produced by sony!
freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have my STS which i am trying to sell because I have moved on to a newer one. If interested mail me @coolaks[email protected]