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I just did a format of the 101, then updated the firmware.
in android 2.2, the system storage is only 5 MB. Can't install anything...
can someone help with this?
1. tried format (volume up + power)
2. tried full initialization
3. tried redownload the firmware
4. tried reset android
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Archos said I need to RMA. I am just wondering if there's another way to get my device back...
dljor said:
Hi
I just did a format of the 101, then updated the firmware.
in android 2.2, the system storage is only 5 MB. Can't install anything...
can someone help with this?
1. tried format (volume up + power)
2. tried full initialization
3. tried redownload the firmware
4. tried reset android
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Archos said I need to RMA. I am just wondering if there's another way to get my device back...
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If you did the 'firmware_archos_android_gen8_2.0.54.aos' format/reset correctly and its still like that, then you'll need to get a new device.
kenyu73 said:
If you did the 'firmware_archos_android_gen8_2.0.54.aos' format/reset correctly and its still like that, then you'll need to get a new device.
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it's gonna take a few weeks for them to repair it.
I am quite sure I did it right...
dljor said:
it's gonna take a few weeks for them to repair it.
I am quite sure I did it right...
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If they're swapping out the NVRAM(not sure exactly what the sys mem is), ask them how much to put in 512mb instead of 256mb .
you should really have around 130+ available after formatting everything. bummer. I assume you ran all the options from the repair menu, etc.
675 Trip said:
If they're swapping out the NVRAM(not sure exactly what the sys mem is), ask them how much to put in 512mb instead of 256mb .
you should really have around 130+ available after formatting everything. bummer. I assume you ran all the options from the repair menu, etc.
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I did try all the options in the repair menu. nothing helped.
was working fine in 2.1 at the beginning. then it started crashing ...
I kind of wish things just work. spent a lot of time to get this to work. when it works, it's everything that i need. but... kind of frustrated now.
Have you tried downloading the file from another computer (really, just making sure you're not using a corrupt .aos file)?
If the firmware you are flashing is not corrupt, causing an issue with the storage it can see, then your device needs to be sent back and repaired.
I'm wondering if I should use Titanium or CWM to back up my phone now that I've finally got my S5830L rooted. I spent most of yesterday searching for and reading information on CWM. But I still have a bit to learn 1st.
As I've done with PCs, I just want a relatively vanilla backup so that if for some reason down the line the phone's OS gets so corrupted that it's near unusable... I'll have something to flash back to.
It seems there's no way to uninstall CWM once it's flashed. But it seems that Titanium as an app can. And I would still like to leave things as simple as possible to go back to a valid warranty condition.
So my question is, can Titanium do as good of a job backing up my phone as it is now to restore it later as CWM can?
I've read where CWM doesn't back up the kernel and modem, tho' I'm not clear one if that's important. But I've also heard that Titanium can back up apps and other data on your SD card. I'm leaning towards Titanium... but would like to hear a few people's opinions on this.
I know this is probably rehashed newb stuff... so thanks everyone for all your feedback.
If you want to backup the entire system , use CWM4
If you only want to backup apps , use Titanium
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Titanium for apps, CWM for total OS/drive. Have been seeing that. But CWM4... not CWM5? And any concerns about not backing up kernel & modem?
No concern with not backing up kernel, readily available online - i think data/wifi modules are backed up with the system backup. CWM4 does the same job as CWM5. It's called a Nandroid backup btw, a complete system and storage backup. Perfect for what you want.
I notice there's a recovery.img file in CWM v5.0.2.6 that v4.0.0.9 lacks... wonder what that's for. From the file name I'd guess it's for some improved recovery function that v4 lacks.
TakuSkan said:
I notice there's a recovery.img file in CWM v5.0.2.6 that v4.0.0.9 lacks... wonder what that's for. From the file name I'd guess it's for some improved recovery function that v4 lacks.
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It's just a recovery image
Ace-ing all tests.
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It's just a recovery image
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Yes, but a recovery image of what that's different from the main backup CWM makes when it images the phone?
I know in PCs that it's important to image the boot sector if you want to restore the image to a drive you expect to be able to boot and be a 100% copy of the original. Could this be something like that?
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Yes, but a recovery image of what that's different from the main backup CWM makes when it images the phone?
I know in PCs that it's important to image the boot sector if you want to restore the image to a drive you expect to be able to boot and be a 100% copy of the original. Could this be something like that?
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The recovery.img in the CWM5 .zip package is the entire recovery itself , nothing else
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The recovery.img in the CWM5 .zip package is the entire recovery itself , nothing else
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Maybe I'm just not familiar enough with the lexicon of the Android community. An '.img' file to me is an backup, or image of a hard drive or drive partition that can back up part or all of a hard drive. That image file can then be used to make an identical mirror of the 1st drive onto a 2nd drive.
When you back up a phone with CWM, I've read the terms ROM and Backup used. I don't know if I've read the term Image being used or not in that respect. But I was thinking in terms of the CWM backup of a phone as being what I'm used to... Something that will restore all or most of the 1st drive back onto either that drive or another.
What the recovery.img file is an image of I'm not clear on. What is it an image of? And when the file CWM creates is later restored to a phone, what part does the recovery.img image file play in the process?
Does CWM use that recovery.img as a template and either modify and add to it when it backs up a phone, or perhaps create a whole new .img file based on it?
Okay let me rephrase .
When clockworkmod recovery version 4 backs up files , it is in this structure
Boot image
Recovery image
Data
System
Cache
SD-ext
The recovery image is the backup of CWMv4 in this case .
Mostly I would recommend you to use CWMv5 because it is backwards compatible with v4 (allows restoring v4 backups)
But if you restore a CWMv4 backup in CWMv5 , the CWMv4 recovery image will be restored along with it , thus bringing your recovery back to v4
Ace-ing all tests.
EmoBoiix3 said:
Boot image
Recovery image
Data
System
Cache
SD-ext
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Okay EmoBoiix3... That list made me realize that those are all partitions in the Android/Linux OS. So I googled 'android drive partitions' and came up with this very useful explanation of how those OSs are structured. Unlike Windows OSs, they use multiple partitions that all 'appear' to the OS as one big entity. And CWM is assuming itself as being 2 of them, /boot and /recovery when it does operations on the entire memory space. I call that "memory space" because Android phones seem all to be using solid-state (flash) memory as opposed to motorized hard drives computers (and iPods still!?) have been based on for so long.
So I've gone ahead and installed CWM5, and backed up my phone. Interesting CWM doesn't ask for a destination. I'm guessing it'll let you browse for one if you move it later.
And I find it doesn't back things up to one big image file like I'm used to with Windows imaging software I've used. It seems to have created an image for each partition, which makes sense based how on the Android OS is structured.
One thing that surprised me was the size of the backed up data ended up being. For me that was 397 MB. For some reason I thought the Ace had 4 GB internal memory. But checking specs, I see there's only 158 MB storage, and 278 MB RAM. At 1st I thought I was going to have huge amounts of memory left over. But now I'm wondering how 397 MB fit on 158 MB storage memory. Wikipedia explained that for me:
(NVRAM) is random-access memory that retains its information when power is turned off (non-volatile). This is in contrast to dynamic random-access memory (DRAM) and static random-access memory (SRAM
So the specs must mean more specifically 278 MB NVRAM. Wonder why they differentiate between 'storage memory' and 'RAM' if it's all solid state in there.
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Okay EmoBoiix3... That list made me realize that those are all partitions in the Android/Linux OS. So I googled 'android drive partitions' and came up with this very useful explanation of how those OSs are structured. Unlike Windows OSs, they use multiple partitions that all 'appear' to the OS as one big entity. And CWM is assuming itself as being 2 of them, /boot and /recovery when it does operations on the entire memory space. I call that "memory space" because Android phones seem all to be using solid-state (flash) memory as opposed to motorized hard drives computers (and iPods still!?) have been based on for so long.
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Well , if they still used motorised hard drives wouldn't it be too hot to operate considering how it heats up when playing games ?
TakuSkan said:
So I've gone ahead and installed CWM5, and backed up my phone. Interesting CWM doesn't ask for a destination. I'm guessing it'll let you browse for one if you move it later.
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All backups are saved to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup .
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And I find it doesn't back things up to one big image file like I'm used to with Windows imaging software I've used. It seems to have created an image for each partition, which makes sense based how on the Android OS is structured.
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Yes , if everything is backed up into one whole chunck it would probably make things harder to do and would take more time to merge all of them together depending on how big the partitions are .
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One thing that surprised me was the size of the backed up data ended up being. For me that was 397 MB. For some reason I thought the Ace had 4 GB internal memory. But checking specs, I see there's only 158 MB storage, and 278 MB RAM. At 1st I thought I was going to have huge amounts of memory left over. But now I'm wondering how 397 MB fit on 158 MB storage memory. Wikipedia explained that for me:
(NVRAM) is random-access memory that retains its information when power is turned off (non-volatile). This is in contrast to dynamic random-access memory (DRAM) and static random-access memory (SRAM
So the specs must mean more specifically 278 MB NVRAM. Wonder why they differentiate between 'storage memory' and 'RAM' if it's all solid state in there.
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It might be NVRAM .
But no one ever found out and so haven't I.....
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EmoBoiix3 said:
Well , if they still used motorised hard drives wouldn't it be too hot to operate considering how it heats up when playing games ?
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I have to admit to being way out of touch with modern mobile phone technology. It seems the 1st generation iPhones had hard drives. And as far as I know, iPod's still do. I imagine that will change when Apple feels flash memory technology gets to the point where it reaches the longevity of HDDs of years past. But I really have no idea how hot a hand held device with a hard drive would get. I'd think the power consumption would be the greater consideration.
All backups are saved to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup .
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Thanks... that was easy enough to locate. I was just wondering if CWM restore was going to expect the backup to be in one specific location. But it seems way to clever to stumble on something that simple.
It might be NVRAM .
But no one ever found out and so haven't I.....
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Really? ... Interesting.
TakuSkan said:
I have to admit to being way out of touch with modern mobile phone technology. It seems the 1st generation iPhones had hard drives. And as far as I know, iPod's still do. I imagine that will change when Apple feels flash memory technology gets to the point where it reaches the longevity of HDDs of years past. But I really have no idea how hot a hand held device with a hard drive would get. I'd think the power consumption would be the greater consideration.
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What ? I just got mindf*cked......I didn't know iPods still have them
Really? ... Interesting.
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I never experimented with hardware....
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can som one tell me how i can dual boot my photon4g
lucky.79 said:
can som one tell me how i can dual boot my photon4g
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You can't, yet.
This uses a method called 2ndinit myself and peetr_ have been looking into using this option.
mof9336 said:
This uses a method called 2ndinit myself and peetr_ have been looking into using this option.
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so we can have one androidOS in the internal storage and another android OS in the external storage?? that's really really cool! Would photon 4g be the first phone to have more than 1 OS installed?
rituel said:
so we can have one androidOS in the internal storage and another android OS in the external storage?? that's really really cool! Would photon 4g be the first phone to have more than 1 OS installed?
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Check my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652411
I have used suggestions from Atrix thread and they worked fine. I have tried two or three times and each time I got some issues. I was copying stock 2.3.4 ROM onto SD card. One time USB ports were not working - no charging, no connection to computer with the cable. Next time there was problem with Play Market. I have tried different steps to reset its settings to no avail. It was giving error related to storage unavailability while downloading anything. I have removed Play Market completely, then somehow install it back, but the issue was not resolved. Now I think maybe it's a permissions issue.
Also device was really slow while running OS on sd-card (I have 32GB Transcend Class 10). It's fun to try but I don't see any practical use for it.
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Check my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652411
I have used suggestions from Atrix thread and they worked fine. I have tried two or three times and each time I got some issues. I was copying stock 2.3.4 ROM onto SD card. One time USB ports were not working - no charging, no connection to computer with the cable. Next time there was problem with Play Market. I have tried different steps to reset its settings to no avail. It was giving error related to storage unavailability while downloading anything. I have removed Play Market completely, then somehow install it back, but the issue was not resolved. Now I think maybe it's a permissions issue.
Also device was really slow while running OS on sd-card (I have 32GB Transcend Class 10). It's fun to try but I don't see any practical use for it.
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hey can you write a detailed guide with instructions on how you got dual boot working on photon 4g please !? I cant afford to make mistakes and bork my phone >.>
And like you said as long as i can charge my phone and connect to my computer with one of the operating system its not a problem. But having dual boot will be really helpfull means I can check out more than one Rom simultaneously.
rituel said:
hey can you write a detailed guide with instructions on how you got dual boot working on photon 4g please !? I cant afford to make mistakes and bork my phone >.>
And like you said as long as i can charge my phone and connect to my computer with one of the operating system its not a problem. But having dual boot will be really helpfull means I can check out more than one Rom simultaneously.
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The instructions I followed from Atrix page are very detailed. Link is here
It takes time to have a thread where most of the common questions answered. I think it is useless effort to start similar topic here, in addition - I don't have necessary time, knowledge and wish for this.
Anyway, if you do something wrong - you should always have full backup - then you risk nothing. Remember that if you got soft-bricked and recovery doesn't work, you can always use RSD lite to load stock 198_7 ROM, unlock, write new recovery and restore from initial backup.
The only difference between Atrix and Photon, (relative to this task) that you should keep in mind is the partition sizes. Partition table by LAKSHMAN in Play Market (or any other partition tool) can show you your partition sizes. I didn't guess to use these tools when I followed the instructions. Add up some 10 GB to each partition, just in case. When you partition your SD card, you should create partitions of the following size:
system - 420 MiB (stock ROM system partition size 408 MiB)
cache - 645 MiB (my current cache size on stock ROM is 610 MiB)
data - 2.6 MiB
I would also recommend to use script manager to launch scripts that will replace boot image from one to another. In other words, it will control where you will boot next time.
Note that Windows 7 is going mad about SD card with several partitions - sometimes you can see a single ntfs partition, sometimes it shows the ext3 partition, offering to reformat it.
bloodhound_ said:
The instructions I followed from Atrix page are very detailed. Link is here
It takes time to have a thread where most of the common questions answered. I think it is useless effort to start similar topic here, in addition - I don't have necessary time, knowledge and wish for this.
Anyway, if you do something wrong - you should always have full backup - then you risk nothing. Remember that if you got soft-bricked and recovery doesn't work, you can always use RSD lite to load stock 198_7 ROM, unlock, write new recovery and restore from initial backup.
The only difference between Atrix and Photon, (relative to this task) that you should keep in mind is the partition sizes. Partition table by LAKSHMAN in Play Market (or any other partition tool) can show you your partition sizes. I didn't guess to use these tools when I followed the instructions. Add up some 10 GB to each partition, just in case. When you partition your SD card, you should create partitions of the following size:
system - 420 GB (stock ROM system partition size 408 GB)
cache - 645 GB (my current cache size on stock ROM is 610 GB)
data - 2.6 GB
I would also recommend to use script manager to launch scripts that will replace boot image from one to another. In other words, it will control where you will boot next time.
Note that Windows 7 is going mad about SD card with several partitions - sometimes you can see a single ntfs partition, sometimes it shows the ext3 partition, offering to reformat it.
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@PosterBoy : is this GB really?????? Man give some space to breathe..... lol
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@PosterBoy : is this GB really?????? Man give some space to breathe..... lol
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no im sure he miss typed he meant MB like he says in his post in the other thread. ok thanks man ill play around with it a bit so you're sure the phone wont be hard bricked right? I'm a very careful person I'm pretty confident I wont make mistakes all i want to know is everything every instruction given there is detailed enough and that nothing is omitted from it(meaning i dont have to do anything different except the partition sizes you mentioned here)
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no im sure he miss typed he meant MB like he says in his post in the other thread. ok thanks man ill play around with it a bit so you're sure the phone wont be hard bricked right? I'm a very careful person I'm pretty confident I wont make mistakes all i want to know is everything every instruction given there is detailed enough and that nothing is omitted from it(meaning i dont have to do anything different except the partition sizes you mentioned here)
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Yes, everything else from that topic applies. Be careful when you use dd. If you specify wrong drive names you might be in trouble (this will require loading sbf with RSD lite to fix partitions, I guess).
The longest part is to extract boot.img, edit the configuration file there and pack the whole thing back to andorid .img format. It requires you to install Android SDK with some tools that might not work straight away.
UPDATE: Stock ATRIX is SLOW AS HELL.
Read my latest posts! I've since FACTORY RESET+Fully wiped!
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Hi there, I'm running Android 2.3.4 (4.5.91) Atrix (rooted) and have extremely slow write speeds. I have seen other users with other newer phones on Android 4.1.1 that seem to steer towards TRIM not being used. They have since fixed this in Android 4.1.2 according to the post, but doesn't help me with an Atrix . I tried to fix my phone with: several apps on the market like forever gone that write and fill your drive up then erase. I tried to use mount -o remount,discard - but discard is not allowed with this phone. I've tried deleting files on my internal and moved a TON of my apps to sdcard (Still internal storage just /sdcard/* because I'm using no actual SDCard) and still the problem exists. I've tried changing my schedulers and buffer with them to no avail. I've tried using the PDSFIX someone else posted here, and that didn't work either. Tried clearing dalvik / app cache entirely, no change either.
Kind of at a stand-still here as I don't want to factory restore my phone to fix a bug. If I'm going to be factory restoring it and spending an entire day doing so, I'd rather just get a new phone and start over where a problem clearly exists over time with the old phone, and I'll end up having to re-do it over and over, and there STILL isn't a guarantee that it will fix when i factory restore! So.. I need help! If there's ANYTHING you guys can think of that I might be able to do to get my phone back to "working" I would appreciate it! Even updating apps from market or opening an app normally that will use write speed at all, will hang and mostly offer to force close/wait.
APP Storage (Assuming /data?)
1.3GB Used - 665MB Free.
Internal Storage (assuming /sdcard?)
7.5GB used - 3.2GB Free.
Using Androbench:
/data (ext3)
SEQ RD: 16.65MB/s
SEQ WR: 0.22MB/s
RND RD: 1123 IOPS
RND WR: 33 IOPS
Buffer: No
/sdcard (vfat)
SEQ RD: 20.72MB/s
SEQ WR: 2.36MB/s
RND RD: 1145 IOPS
RND WR: 65.78 IOPS
As you can see: /sdcard is getting SEQ 2.5MB/s write and RND WR of a bit lower around 0.8MB/s which is clearly higher than /data.
I've read just about every thread on slow speeds here and most deal with a physical SDCard which I do not have one installed.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fstrim/?source=dlp
I found a source for fstrim.c but I need to compile it on my phone which costs 3$? I'm afraid it would be a wasted purchase if it didn't work. As far as I know ext3 does not support "discard" option so you need to CRON job fstrim -v / (I have seen this as a solution for others)
Does discard option work with vfat? Or it seems maybe TRIM is the issue here. If I could find a compiled version I could use ON my phone to test, that would be awesome. I tried searching everywhere for an APP to do TRIM commands on your filesystem but came up empty handed.
UPDATE: Looks like TRIM doesn't work on Android 2.3.4. Looks like I'll be getting rid of my phone instead of fixing it, as it's impossible to fix apparently. Does not support -discard or TRIM, and have no feasible way to fix. I kind of liked the Atrix but it seems I will not be buying another Motorola product. Stay away from the ATRIX, it's JUNK.
Just saw they offer 100$ if you upgrade from Atrix 1 to Atrix HD but there are far better phones on the market now to even bother. WHY? Motorola, you need to take your head out of your ass.
Have you tried ROM Manager? It has a setting for boosting SD read/write (increase value from 128 to 2048 or 4096.) Hmm.. I dunno what I'm talking aboutz.
If you are that frustrated and will buy a new phone anyways, why not factory reset your phone and get it done and over with? At least there's a small chance you can fix your problem in Atrix as a principle.. And give you a reason to give in to the nagging innards about buying a shiny new Galaxy Note2 :cyclops: Atrix is still a nice back-up phone...
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Have you tried ROM Manager? It has a setting for boosting SD read/write (increase value from 128 to 2048 or 4096.) Hmm.. I dunno what I'm talking aboutz.
If you are that frustrated and will buy a new phone anyways, why not factory reset your phone and get it done and over with? At least there's a small chance you can fix your problem in Atrix as a principle.. And give you a reason to give in to the nagging innards about buying a shiny new Galaxy Note2 :cyclops: Atrix is still a nice back-up phone...
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I installed that and didn't see the option. I have titanium backup and titanium media sync but I'm afraid a recovery would be at .5MB/s write and that could take many hours, haha.. umm I guess the reason I haven't factory restored is because this problem will reoccur without a solution. This is only logical. Simply factory restoring my phone every time I fill it up with anything or take long video,etc is not a solution to anything.
Whoops, sorry, my bad, not ROM Manager.. but ROM Toolbox Pro.
On the 1st page of ROM Toolbox Pro, swipe downwards, and presto! SD speed up option
Maybe if you reset it once, AND reinstall the ROM, (after wiping Dalvik and data with the toilet paper..) the problem might go away. Most probably a ROM corruption or app afficted error.
Doesn't hurt to try, especially after purchasing a shiny brand new Note 2..
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Whoops, sorry, my bad, not ROM Manager.. but ROM Toolbox Pro.
On the 1st page of ROM Toolbox Pro, swipe downwards, and presto! SD speed up option
Maybe if you reset it once, AND reinstall the ROM, (after wiping Dalvik and data with the toilet paper..) the problem might go away. Most probably a ROM corruption or app afficted error.
Doesn't hurt to try, especially after purchasing a shiny brand new Note 2..
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Tried setting the cache to all the different settings, nothing changed really. If anything, it got worse so I uninstalled, heh.. I've been uninstalling any apps I can think of but nothing is working.
I'm really trying to figure out the damn problem so I don't HAVE to upgrade my phone... I'd rather not waste my 2-yr upgrade on a 300$ upgrade now when there are new devices coming out in a few months :\
Thanks for the help though. Going to mess around with it a bit more I guess.
UPDATE: I wiped my phone COMPLETELY. Unlocked bootloader, and tested, nothing. Same speeds, SLOWER if anything!?!?!?!?
I updated to the newer version 4.5.141 and..
moto-fastboot erase system
moto-fastboot erase boot
moto-fastboot erase webtop
moto-fastboot -w (wipe data)
Used CWM to format /cache
Soo. Wat now? hah..
If you have fully wiped and reset it, it would most probably be a hardware fault, no longer a ROM or setting problem. Probably your NAND has worn out (overused?) or has factory defect that became apparent only recently. You can try using CWM (advanced) to convert ext3 to ext4 the /cache, /data, etc, and see if it helps in any little way or if any. If no effect, and If it's still usable, then just use it as a secondary or back-up phone.
(epinter's CM10.1 ROM would be nice for that..)
or you can just trade it in for a new phone.. Good luck..
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If you have fully wiped and reset it, it would most probably be a hardware fault, no longer a ROM or setting problem. Probably your NAND has worn out (overused?) or has factory defect that became apparent only recently. You can try using CWM (advanced) to convert ext3 to ext4 the /cache, /data, etc, and see if it helps in any little way or if any. If no effect, and If it's still usable, then just use it as a secondary or back-up phone.
(epinter's CM10.1 ROM would be nice for that..)
or you can just trade it in for a new phone.. Good luck..
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Interesting, my mother has the same phone and got it a bit after mine, her stats:
SEQ RD: 17MB/s
SEQ WR: 2.68MB/s
RND RD: 4MB/s 1027IOPS
RND WR: 0.16MB/s 42IOPS
So. It looks like Motorola designed these NAND chips to fail after a year or two causing the need to upgrade the phone to a new model.. I can't come up with any other solution other than they used cheap as hell hardware?
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Interesting, my mother has the same phone and got it a bit after mine, her stats:
SEQ RD: 17MB/s
SEQ WR: 2.68MB/s
RND RD: 4MB/s 1027IOPS
RND WR: 0.16MB/s 42IOPS
So. It looks like Motorola designed these NAND chips to fail after a year or two causing the need to upgrade the phone to a new model.. I can't come up with any other solution other than they used cheap as hell hardware?
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I have read your posts and I'm wondering how the phone feels when you're using it? (as opposed to looking at the stats)? I must admit you got me confused with all attention to write speeds ect.
As you've rooted/unlocked the bootloader what would you think about installing a custom rom? Something like CM7.2
It shouldn't take long. You've already got Titanium backup so you can back up your apps that you downloaded (not system apps) and install them after you have installed your new rom. It really shouldn't take long.
There is also a zip file called 'ram fix' which I've put here which might help after you've installed CM7.2 (it was designed for CM9/10 but there's no harm in trying it out)
You could also install a kernel which overclocks your CPU speed, thus making your phone faster.
If you decide to go down this route you'll need to do the following:
download CM 7.2/Gapps/Ramfix/Faux 1.3 overclock kernel and install on internal sd card
back up apps using titanium back up (do not back up system apps)
go into recovery and select 'mounts and storage'
format the following: system,data,osh,cache,preinstall
go back to main recovery menu and select 'install from sd card'
select 'choose zip from internal sd card'
select the CM7.2 zip that you have put on there (it will be at the bottom)
select Gapps zip and install
restart phone and go through start up procedure'
After Gapps has installed go back into recovery and repeat steps to get to install the ramfix zip and overclocking zip
restart phone
reinstall Titanium and reinsatll your apps of choice.
and hey presto... you'll have a new shiny fast Atrix :good:
barry_ said:
I have read your posts and I'm wondering how the phone feels when you're using it? (as opposed to looking at the stats)? I must admit you got me confused with all attention to write speeds ect.
As you've rooted/unlocked the bootloader what would you think about installing a custom rom? Something like CM7.2
It shouldn't take long. You've already got Titanium backup so you can back up your apps that you downloaded (not system apps) and install them after you have installed your new rom. It really shouldn't take long.
There is also a zip file called 'ram fix' which I've put here which might help after you've installed CM7.2 (it was designed for CM9/10 but there's no harm in trying it out)
You could also install a kernel which overclocks your CPU speed, thus making your phone faster.
If you decide to go down this route you'll need to do the following:
download CM 7.2/Gapps/Ramfix/Faux 1.3 overclock kernel and install on internal sd card
back up apps using titanium back up (do not back up system apps)
go into recovery and select 'mounts and storage'
format the following: system,data,osh,cache,preinstall
go back to main recovery menu and select 'install from sd card'
select 'choose zip from internal sd card'
select the CM7.2 zip that you have put on there (it will be at the bottom)
select Gapps zip and install
restart phone and go through start up procedure'
After Gapps has installed go back into recovery and repeat steps to get to install the ramfix zip and overclocking zip
restart phone
reinstall Titanium and reinsatll your apps of choice.
and hey presto... you'll have a new shiny fast Atrix :good:
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Considering doing this, not even sure if I can restore my Atrix back to stock and relock the bootloader. I unlocked it thinking CWM and this restore would be the fix.. heh.. nope.
The phone is basically usable as long as you're not...doing anything. Opening apps takes forever, a reboot takes 5-6minutes about. To update an app, everything on the phone comes to a GRINDING halt until the app completely updates, that is if market doesnt force close first. I have to keep hitting "wait" at least 2-3 times until a small app updates. If its a 20MB app, it's frozen for 3minutes+ just updating one app. Anything that writes/reads from my internal memory is deathly slow. I'll have to try CM7 mod maybe Neutrino?
Is it even possible to turn in this phone to Moto for the 100$ rebate and blowing my 2-yr upgrade on a ATRIX HD? It seems more effective to just go and get a Galaxy Note II with 399$ than it does to get a Atrix HD, quadcore vs dualcore? I wanted to wait until Tegra 4 came to market, but I don't know how long that will be.. I'm left with a mediocre phone that is stock (i've not re-added my apps yet with titanium backup). Not sure where to go next with this. I'm hoping I can import my apps to Jellybean from Gingerbread with Titanium Backup!! Thank you for all the help. I appreciate it!
I have the same problem. Currently running CM 10 from epinter.
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OP, did you ever find a solution to this problem?
I'm facing the same issue with my atrix (stock Gingerbread 2.3.4, not rooted, free app storage: 1.24Gb, free internal: 9.91Gb):
Sequential Read: 10.67 MB/s
Sequential Write: 0.28 MB/s
Random Read: 1.48 MB/s
Random Write: 0.02 MB/s
Both of you, have you tried "sd speed increase" app from play store? I recall doing this recomendation, with examples in another post. It can greatly increase reading/writing speed for sd card an internal storage as well
ndsLux was
Note that (alpha) 3.1.10 kernel always had slow sd write. Only now people starting to discuss that (see epinter's 10.1 dev thread and/or kernel 3.1 one, I didn't remember which one it was, but krystianp is aware of that).
As of cm7, I never had this issue. Copying files via usb for instance was fast and smooth. Same for epinter's 10.1 with old kernel. With kernel 3.1, it 's slow as hell. Yet to be fixed, perhaps?
Hi,
sorry to disturb you but I do have some little "problems" with my HTC ONE AT&T.
I bought this phone, simunlocked already, and with revone I put it SOFF and than I "converted" it to international version of it (thinking that keeping the AT&T versionI coudn't install internatinal rom...I understood I was wrong but anyway I'm from Europe so I like to have international CID).
Few strange things happened (I'm not sure if it's normal or not).
The first one is that it seems that my phone is loosing memory, it's supposed to have 32 Gb but, as you can see from the attachment, it has just 25.5 Gb, is that normal (I do use a really slim rom, just 150 Mb, but anyway it's the same with any rom I install)...is it normal? Is it possible to format ALL and restore all the memory to an initial state (where there shall be at least 30-31 Gb avaialble I think)??
The second is that sometimes, after installing a rom, exiting the aroma installer, the screen become black instead of getting me back to the recovery (actually it seems it brings me back to the recovery but the screen goes off and no way to turn it on...so force reboot and than everything works fine....but sometimes reinstalling the same rom over and over it works fine, it bring me back to recovery and I can normally reboot the system), is it normal?
Than during the boot it says that this is a test device and so on (a sentence written under the HTC logo), is there a way to remove it? I thought I could do it with revone (I thought it was the tempered flag) but I tried the following thing and isn't removing it even if it says succesfully: Re-run revone to remove TAMPERED from your HBOOT screen: ./revone -t (but maybe it's another thing).
So is there a way to remove that sentence?
Thanks,
Massimiliano
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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TopoX84 said:
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Well is like installing Linux on a computer.. The easy setup sets different partitions that the system is going to use for multiple purposes hence losing some GB in the process to be able to perform as required.
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Solarenemy68 said:
Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
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Ok I do understand that but as you can see from the screenshot attached in Setting-Storage it says Total Space 25.59Gb, available 24 and something.
I would like to see/understand/access the remaining 6/7 Gb that are not showed there!
I've the feelings that the memory is decreasing every time I'm installing a rom, I also formatted EVERYTHING. loosing the operating system (than I had to push a rom in the memory) but still is like that!
Any suggestion or idea on how to see what is inside those 7 Gb "missing" from the total space?
Any way to format them?
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
cschmitt said:
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
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Ok, Thanks
Solarenemy68 said:
I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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If I knew that 32 Gb meant 25 I would consider to buy the 64 Gb too ... but other than te space I just wanted to understand IF it was normal that, after just flashed a really basic clean rom (just 156 mb of rom) it was normal to have just 25 Gb free (no other additional apps, no photo and so on) ... it's normal, ok, I'll be happy with that and next phone I'll consider a 64Gb version of it.
Thanks everyone for the reply