okay, first I did the wire trick and got my phone to s-off then noticed it was locked so I went through the unlocking using htcdev run through which should mean my phone is rooted and s-off, correct?
second, what is this whole thing with the MD5 thing...I went through pages and pages and it didn't say specifically where the MD5 was needed to be use. sorry, if I sound like an idiot for asking that question...my brain is fried from this whole process of s-off then had to unlock.
third, and lastly...I can't for the life of me update to one of the new roms like Business_ICS4.0.3_Sense4.0-v2.6, I thought after you s-off that you only had to rename it to PH98IMG and let it automatically load at the bootloader screen, it would go through process with the bar on the right hand of the screen filling up but once it was done it just stayed on bootloader screen...the only one rom that worked for me was the Global RUU4.03.605.2 from [ROM][08.20.12] Simplistic 3.0 [ICS Sense Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]....none of the others worked
thanks for any help you guys can give me
kevinvu34 said:
okay, first I did the wire trick and got my phone to s-off then noticed it was locked so I went through the unlocking using htcdev run through which should mean my phone is rooted and s-off, correct?
second, what is this whole thing with the MD5 thing...I went through pages and pages and it didn't say specifically where the MD5 was needed to be use. sorry, if I sound like an idiot for asking that question...my brain is fried from this whole process of s-off then had to unlock.
third, and lastly...I can't for the life of me update to one of the new roms like Business_ICS4.0.3_Sense4.0-v2.6, I thought after you s-off that you only had to rename it to PH98IMG and let it automatically load at the bootloader screen, it would go through process with the bar on the right hand of the screen filling up but once it was done it just stayed on bootloader screen...the only one rom that worked for me was the Global RUU4.03.605.2 from [ROM][08.20.12] Simplistic 3.0 [ICS Sense Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]....none of the others worked
thanks for any help you guys can give me
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Do not rename it. Just put it on your sdcard2 and flash in recovery. Factory reset and wipe cache first in recovery.
Will not install in bootloader that is ror kernels and ruu's etc. Not ROMs
kevinvu34 said:
okay, first I did the wire trick and got my phone to s-off then noticed it was locked so I went through the unlocking using htcdev run through which should mean my phone is rooted and s-off, correct?
second, what is this whole thing with the MD5 thing...I went through pages and pages and it didn't say specifically where the MD5 was needed to be use. sorry, if I sound like an idiot for asking that question...my brain is fried from this whole process of s-off then had to unlock.
third, and lastly...I can't for the life of me update to one of the new roms like Business_ICS4.0.3_Sense4.0-v2.6, I thought after you s-off that you only had to rename it to PH98IMG and let it automatically load at the bootloader screen, it would go through process with the bar on the right hand of the screen filling up but once it was done it just stayed on bootloader screen...the only one rom that worked for me was the Global RUU4.03.605.2 from [ROM][08.20.12] Simplistic 3.0 [ICS Sense Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]....none of the others worked
thanks for any help you guys can give me
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1. When you have s-off on the top it should say "locked" because s-off > unlock. i would leave it locked.
2. MD5 is a number generated when a zip is made. when you download something off the internet, it has the ability to mess up and download incorrectly. The reason why people say to check the MD5 because certain stuff can brick your phone if it is incorrect. to check you can use a bunch of different programs on or off your phone. just search google for it.
3. Let me explain root vs s-off:
Root, well it is what it sounds like. Root means you will have root access to the lowest part of the system partition. Meaning you have the ability to rewrite the system OS like flashing different roms and themes or even installing apps to the system partition. (you dont need s-off to obtain root. just an unlocked boot loader that will let you get to that level.)
s-off, the "S" stands for security. The difference between S-on and S-off is that the bootloader is 100% open. This means you can not only gain root but you can change the inner core workings of the device. Kernels, recovery, bootloader, splash screens, and radios. Stuff that can brick your phone instantaneously, stuff that the manufacturer doesnt want you touching because they dont want to offer a free phone if you do end up bricking it.
3.1 when flashing a rom you always do it in recovery, unless you are returning the phone to stock then you would use an RUU
now this isnt a scare tactic, this is a learning process. Just be careful in what you put on your device and dont rush, take your time when it comes to modifying you phone. Always check the MD5 sums on things that you want to try, and ALWAYS read as much as you can on what you are about to do.
I see, the problem I've having now is when I go into to recovery and let it load it show harddrive icon and green loading but then a black phone icon pops up with a red triangle(exclamation in the middle)
kevinvu34 said:
I see, the problem I've having now is when I go into to recovery and let it load it show harddrive icon and green loading but then a black phone icon pops up with a red triangle(exclamation in the middle)
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That means you have the stock recovery. You need to install a third party one. Like amon ra
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Clearly you haven't read up enough on what to do before messing with this phone. I recommend Scotty's noob guide. I think it's the best that you can find. You went s-off without figuring out that you need a recovery? One of the best pieces of advice I've ever gotten (for this particular process) is to read, read, read. It's not a joke. You sound like you are in over your head. I'm not trying to flame, but a few hours spent reading about this online would have cleared up a lot of your questions.
Agreed. He is correct about the reading. And read a lot. Read everything in the stickies and everything not in the stickies. Also read everything that is not a Rom thread. Then after all that reading , you can read the roms. Scott noob guide is good place to start I think also.
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figured everything out, thanks everyone for all the help...
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EDIT: UPDATE .... i managed to get the phone rebooted .... held the force reboot buttons for literally over a min in desperation.... not i need to fully unroot and start from scratch but am having trouble with that still.... can anyone help me either (A) get s-off ... or (B) get it so that i am completely unrooted so i can start over from scratch to get s-off????
Ok folks, i am officially stuck.... its been quite awhile since i have really asked for help on here but i am stuck in a really bad way!!!
Here is how i got to where i am
Just bought my brand new EVO LTE today and went to root it using "[ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.13.12" from this section!
everything seemed to work great and it said everything rooted properly.... I love Clockwork mod recovery so i then flashed that and it worked properly to or so i thought! so i went to create an origional Nand but it would not work, so i decided to flash TWRP back instead and do that way. when going into the bootloader it said "Tampered" as expected, but it still said S-on so obviously not a proper and correct root.
So i ran RegaMOD again as it said in the instructions, but it would never get passed the HTCdev part, it would just say "sucessfully logged out" and sit there forever and do nothing. So after a few tries of that i decided to unroot and start over from scratch. I could not find an unroot method for RegaMOD so i then went to the other root method "How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax" in this section and saw it had an unroot method which i followed to the letter! did full unroot through SuperSU and then downloaded the stock RUU from that section for my phone with the proper version number.
everything seemed to be running fine went to the black "HTC" screen and everything was going smoothly.... then the update failed and my phone stayed on the black HTC screen. my computer prompted me to recover which i could not really do as you can't pull the battery on this phone. So i then tried to update the RUU again except this time it did not list a current software version, only the one i was updating too.... it failed again 2 more times!!
when plugged into the computer my phone displays the black "HTC" screen
when plugged into the charger it displays the following screen info (bootloader look)
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012,19:54:01
FASTBOOT AO <---- MIGHT BE FASTBOOT AC HARD TO TELL
Update Fail!
when un-plugged it says almost the same thing
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012,19:54:01
FASTBOOT <---- THIS IS THE ONLY CHANGE
Update Fail!
no buttons do anything at all, in any combination or holding pattern
PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! THANKS TO ALL IN ADVANCE!!!
just one thing, s-on or s-ff has nothing to do with root
did you relock your bootloader before running the RUU?
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
no, i did not re-lock the boot loader.... didnt know you needed to, not used to that on the OG EVO... how do you go about redoing that? I always thought S-OFF was an important part of root..... the main reason i looked and noticed it was since i flashed clockworkmod recovery and wanted to go back to TWRP i read on their page that "You must be S-OFF or have taken HTC's unlock to use a recovery on your device!" I guess that since i used HTC unlock i could flash, but either way, should i need to go back to stock for any reason, could you please tell me the proper steps?
Thanks a million!!!
smw6180 said:
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
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Sorry I just got excited, I have run root on my last 2 phones (much more research on those) and just kinda fell into a super late night lazy not thinking groove... please dont be offended, the reason a rarely dont ask for help is i usually have not needed it.... no need to get hostile.... thankyou for the responce
smw6180 said:
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
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shootin4aces said:
Sorry I just got excited, I have run root on my last 2 phones (much more research on those) and just kinda fell into a super late night lazy not thinking groove... please dont be offended, the reason a rarely dont ask for help is i usually have not needed it.... no need to get hostile.... thankyou for the responce
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Wasn't being hostile and I'm not offended. It's just there are entirely too many people who haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and get upset about it when it all blows up in their face.
And for the record every phone is different. I've rooted my last 4 Android phones, 3 evo's and the hero, and root was different on each one, with different potential problems. Being excited is great. But you need to take the time to learn what you're doing, first.
shootin4aces said:
no, i did not re-lock the boot loader.... didnt know you needed to, not used to that on the OG EVO... how do you go about redoing that? I always thought S-OFF was an important part of root..... the main reason i looked and noticed it was since i flashed clockworkmod recovery and wanted to go back to TWRP i read on their page that "You must be S-OFF or have taken HTC's unlock to use a recovery on your device!" I guess that since i used HTC unlock i could flash, but either way, should i need to go back to stock for any reason, could you please tell me the proper steps?
Thanks a million!!!
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read the post above yours he did tell you how to do it..lol
Oh and before I forget: Don't use CWM. Unless they've fixed it in the last couple of days it breaks your /misc partition, which is quite probably what caused your issues in the first place.
Use TWRP. After you have root/unlocked you can download goomanager from the Play Store...it will install it for you.
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Wasn't being hostile and I'm not offended. It's just there are entirely too many people who haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and get upset about it when it all blows up in their face.
And for the record every phone is different. I've rooted my last 4 Android phones, 3 evo's and the hero, and root was different on each one, with different potential problems. Being excited is great. But you need to take the time to learn what you're doing, first.
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+1 and wrong section
This is the method I used on my 4lte without a problem. But you should read entire post before attempting cause it flashes TWRP recovery automatically along with SU. Clockwork still is buggy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26955832
from my "Beach Watcher" 4LTE
thankyou
all problems have been fixed, thankyou everyone for all your help
again, sry for posting in the wrong forum with this issue, and i am sorry if i came off as a noob! I'm really not, just completely jumped the gun and am very very tired as i have been up for almost 36 hours now
thankyou again for all the help, and as i normally do, i will perform all my research before my next venture.... a lot has changed between this phone and my last one that i rooted and modded, i will be more prepared in the future!
Selders, you're here now?! Good to see ya here
sent from a shining jewel 4g LTE
I find it hard to believe that there is no step-by-step out there, so I'm just going to assume that I'm really bad at internet searching and apologize for posting a question that surely must be answered somewhere out there...
I ultimately want to try out the newest ICS leak (depending on whether Flash works on it?), but it seems that the best first step is to get S-Off on my rooted, stock Gingerbread Rezound.
But I can't find a simple step-by-step instruction set anywhere... Can anyone point me in the right direction?
I downloaded a toolkit from hasoon2000 that's supposed to make things easy, but I don't know what to do with it.
hasoon2000 links to instructions that only show a video and assume I know how to use something called Juopunutbear(?).
It seems that every tidbit of information I can find is only partial...
Where can I find a step-by-step, beginning-to-end guide to get S-Off for a rooted Rezound? Am I missing something?
Prerequisites
- Must be on a stock Gingerbread ROM OR The 3.14.605.5 ICS Leak <---- NO OTHER ICS LEAKS BUT THIS ONE!
- Must be HTCDev unlocked
- Must be rooted
1. Install HTC Drivers
2. Go to www.HTCDev.com
2a. Follow instructions and unlock your bootloader/Device.
2b. flash a rooted rom/gain root access
3. Get a fresh microSD card or backup yours because s-off will delete everything on it.
4. After unlocking run the toolkit which will push you through s-off(Juno-w/e)
4a. Get a length of insulated wire about 8 or so inches, then when the Toolkit cmd prompt says to, ground it outThe pins you touch are in this picture.
5. If it worked, you'll be s-off'd, install a recovery & rom.
If still confused just ask, I'll try my best to walk you through it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612035
The instructions are detailed on the unlimited.io site...
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
When we speak of this "leak" for the rezound that means that we took ics 4.0 from another phone and ported it over.. so what is the leak vs porting it. When rezoind does finally get our 4.0 update , what perks will that bring us even though we have the "leak" or "port" ...we will be able to have aosp roms right
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SR3TLAW said:
When we speak of this "leak" for the rezound that means that we took ics 4.0 from another phone and ported it over.. so what is the leak vs porting it. When rezoind does finally get our 4.0 update , what perks will that bring us even though we have the "leak" or "port" ...we will be able to have aosp roms right
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the leaks are not ported and they ARE for the Rezound. When the ota comes, I don't think it will be much different from what we have now (3.14.605.10).
I believe the source will have to be dropped for AOSP.
SR3TLAW said:
When we speak of this "leak" for the rezound that means that we took ics 4.0 from another phone and ported it over.. so what is the leak vs porting it. When rezoind does finally get our 4.0 update , what perks will that bring us even though we have the "leak" or "port" ...we will be able to have aosp roms right
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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The Rezound is getting Sense 3.6 with it's OTA update, the newer HTC ICS based phones are getting Sense 4.0.
The leaks are Sense 3.6 builds specific for the Rezound, the ports are Sense 4.0 based roms for other phones made to work on the Rezound.
So what exactly is the benefit to S-OFF? I tried to do it, but bricked my rezound. Luckily, Verizon exchanged it as DOA, and so I'm all good for now.
d.kozzer said:
So what exactly is the benefit to S-OFF? I tried to do it, but bricked my rezound. Luckily, Verizon exchanged it as DOA, and so I'm all good for now.
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Easier flashing (don't have to create a ph98img.zip file any more) edit boot screen (my favorite reason) and be able to flash between different firmwares (this is a big deal).
Hmmm. Well, I've done all that with S-ON. I've got a custom ROM, custom recovery, custom boot animation (a JB one posted somewhere on this site), and the ICS leaked firmware. I don't remember using PH98IMG.ZIP (rather it was other zips), though I was pretty excited to play with a new phone, so I could be forgetting. Actually, now that I'm thinking more on it, I did flash the PH98IMG.ZIP when I put CleanROM on the phone, and so I suppose that also put the updated firmware on it.
d.kozzer said:
So what exactly is the benefit to S-OFF? I tried to do it, but bricked my rezound. Luckily, Verizon exchanged it as DOA, and so I'm all good for now.
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The ability to do Nandroid restores and have it flash the boot.img without needing any help scripts or doing it manually via fastboot was my main reason for doing it..
d.kozzer said:
Hmmm. Well, I've done all that with S-ON. I've got a custom ROM, custom recovery, custom boot animation (a JB one posted somewhere on this site), and the ICS leaked firmware. I don't remember using PH98IMG.ZIP (rather it was other zips), though I was pretty excited to play with a new phone, so I could be forgetting. Actually, now that I'm thinking more on it, I did flash the PH98IMG.ZIP when I put CleanROM on the phone, and so I suppose that also put the updated firmware on it.
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By "edit boot screen" he meant the splash screen before the boot animation (the blindingly bright white HTC screen). This can't be changed without having S-OFF.
The PH98IMG.zip you flashed with CleanROM was to update the kernel, not your firmware. Since you are S-ON, it won't install the boot.img in recovery during the ROM flash, so it uses a separate file to flash it in the bootloader. Otherwise, no boot.img = phone isn't booting (obviously).
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To have call recording capabilities I would have to have s off becuae to record a call without an app depends on the kernel correct.
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I used the control bear s off tool tonight, after many, many...many times I finally got s-off. But now the only thing I have is the modified boot loader. I tried too use adb to push recovery and boot images and it would say success, but would actually never boot into them, it would just stay on the white and green HTC screen. Any help is appreciated of course, I just need to get booted up.
BOOT LOADER INFO:
JuopunutBear
Vigor Pvt ship s off rl
Hboot 2.21.21
Radio 0.95.00.1118r/0.95.00.1223r
OpenDSP v10.6.0.7611.00.0919
emmc boot
March 11 2012 22:16:16
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use laptop [for max safety so u wont get electric blackout]
flash scrosler Rooted ics rom
put empty sdcard
install htc drivers on stable windows 7 without virus or heavy apps running
make sure usb debugging is ON
remove sim
get a insulated wire with out strings
start the s-off by hansson [HTC Rezound S-Off All-In-One Toolkit v1.0]
use the wire when u told so
if u dont want to install the modded hboot so unlock it then flash recovery
Done
Proz00 said:
use laptop
use the wire when u told so
if u dont want to install the modded hboot so unlock it then flash recovery
Done
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IMHO...no need to unlock it, so keep it locked.
tynan
Fortunately, I'm starting with a rooted Rezound already.
3. Blank microSD is no problem.
4. I don't know what "run the toolkit" means... or what "Juno" means. The top middle button of the toolkit I downloaded just refers me to webpages with confusing instructions and a broken video link (found the video elsewhere). I don't know which toolkit button I'm supposed to push, and nothing tells me which one helps me get S-Off. So... This is where I'm stuck.
killerb777
I'm sure the correct info is at that link, but there's so much information... And it seems like everyone refers to the same things by different names? ... JuopunutBear? ControlBear? But I'm not sure? It just isn't written for people who don't understand this stuff...
everyone
Thanks for taking a few moments to help me out with this, everyone.
bloodymurderlive said:
tynan
Fortunately, I'm starting with a rooted Rezound already.
3. Blank microSD is no problem.
4. I don't know what "run the toolkit" means... or what "Juno" means. The top middle button of the toolkit I downloaded just refers me to webpages with confusing instructions and a broken video link (found the video elsewhere). I don't know which toolkit button I'm supposed to push, and nothing tells me which one helps me get S-Off. So... This is where I'm stuck.
killerb777
I'm sure the correct info is at that link, but there's so much information... And it seems like everyone refers to the same things by different names? ... JuopunutBear? ControlBear? But I'm not sure? It just isn't written for people who don't understand this stuff...
everyone
Thanks for taking a few moments to help me out with this, everyone.
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ON the toolkit...isn't there a "Run Juopunutbear V.6If....." in the left hand box? Run the one that corresponds to the firmware you have. You have GB so run the first one. Make sure you have read and know how to do the wire trick.
JuopunutBear is the name of the group that developed the s-off process...ControlBear is the name of the program file that is run to achieve it. Hansoons tool apparently downloads the programs you need to do everything. Follow the steps.
If you don't understand the terms bootloader, hboot, recovery..Read up on them here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641670
Don't worry about flashing a new hboot, just keep the one you have when you're done.
Also, I found it helpful to have a computer that could read the SD card. Just in case you need to download something to it for you phone.
Thanks for the update... So here are the simple instructions I'm following now:
1. - 2. Root device.
3. Backup microSD.
4. Select "Run Juopunutbear v.6 If You Are On Gingerbread" in Hasoon2000's S-Off toolkit, then click Run
5. Use insulated wire to connect Pin 1 and GND for two seconds when cmd prompt says "Do wire-trick now!! Look instructions at web"
... So what happens next? Does my device reboot as usual? Do I have to re-unlock? Re-root? Re-install amon recovery? In other words... Did it change anything other than giving me S-Off and wiping the microSD card?
bloodymurderlive said:
Thanks for the update... So here are the simple instructions I'm following now:
1. - 2. Root device.
3. Backup microSD.
4. Select "Run Juopunutbear v.6 If You Are On Gingerbread" in Hasoon2000's S-Off toolkit, then click Run
5. Use insulated wire to connect Pin 1 and GND for two seconds when cmd prompt says "Do wire-trick now!! Look instructions at web"
... So what happens next? Does my device reboot as usual? Do I have to re-unlock? Re-root? Re-install amon recovery? In other words... Did it change anything other than giving me S-Off and wiping the microSD card?
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Getting there.
The wire trick..DON'T touch the contacts for 2 seconds. Touch them TWICE in 1.75 seconds. Example...touch..1.75s......touch.... Hold the wire firmly down in the hole to insure contact and just touch the gnd twice.
AFter, you do have to reinstall amon recovery...DON"T UNLOCK... no reason to. Again, it is a good backup to have a SD card reader available.
EDIT: If you want to be able to use fastboot commands after, then you do need to flash the Joupunut Hboot that is offered to you at the end of the process. I didn't. I just find flashable files for my needs.
Let me start off my saying what im trying to do in relation to my questions. Im trying to go back to GB after flashing ICS on the rezound. I have an unlocked boot loader and AmonRa recovery. I downloaded a stock GB rooted rom and flashed it it went to hboot to do the kernel, got an error (cant remember) so i flashed the kernel myself. and oh my god is things effed up, 4g drops all the time, i dont have an accessable SD card external or internal, and i cant figure out alot of things, all the tutorials and guides assume prior knowledge which i dont have, so here goes
What is S-off, and why do i apparently need it to go back to true stock?
What is "wrong s-on" i dont understand what that even means (but its a major stipulation in the guides)
Is "S-on relocked" considered s-off?
Why must a file be named "PH98IMG.zip" to do anything?
I feel like all the guides are like making a witches potion or some ritual. I really like to know what im doing and i rarely post in forums like this, but my own devices have failed me.
Please help, your time is greatly appreciated
PS hope i posted this in the right spot
blackbelt27 said:
Let me start off my saying what im trying to do in relation to my questions. Im trying to go back to GB after flashing ICS on the rezound. I have an unlocked boot loader and AmonRa recovery. I downloaded a stock GB rooted rom and flashed it it went to hboot to do the kernel, got an error (cant remember) so i flashed the kernel myself. and oh my god is things effed up, 4g drops all the time, i dont have an accessable SD card external or internal, and i cant figure out alot of things, all the tutorials and guides assume prior knowledge which i dont have, so here goes
What is S-off, and why do i apparently need it to go back to true stock?
What is "wrong s-on" i dont understand what that even means (but its a major stipulation in the guides)
Is "S-on relocked" considered s-off?
Why must a file be named "PH98IMG.zip" to do anything?
I feel like all the guides are like making a witches potion or some ritual. I really like to know what im doing and i rarely post in forums like this, but my own devices have failed me.
Please help, your time is greatly appreciated
PS hope i posted this in the right spot
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S- on = Security On, S-Off = Security Off
Locked and relocked s on has nothing to do with being s-off
S-On means that there are security measures in place by the manufacturer to keep people from flashing **** that isn't officially signed as HTC proprietary software/firmware.
S-off means that all those safety precautions are gone. It means that you're allowed to flash the wrong **** on your phone, you're completely able to screw it up, or make it better, or just different, anything the users heart desires. S-on will not let you flash firmware that isn't signed by HTC in its original packaging. S-off will allow you to flash the firmware from a completely different phone if you want theoretically and brick it, have a paperweight.
It's also a security measure for the service provider. Keeps people from using custom firmware for evil purposes just like it keeps users from flashing **** that doesn't belong on their phones.
The software is written so that it recognizes "PH98IMG.zip" as being an "oh **** this is from my manufacturer and I'm supposed to see it" filename.
When you first boot the bootloader, it's startup process is to check for that file on the sd card, and the one and only thing its supposed to do in that case is allow you to confirm or deny that you are trying to update the software.
I have an Evo3d through Sprint and about a month ago they started sending me notifications to upgrade to Ice cream sandwich. I did such and immediately my touchscreen started going crazy. If I used the keypad in either position it would just randomly add letters all over the place, the home row would just stop working, and the phone would occasionally appear to lock up. I took the phone into the Sprint repair center and they told me they would not do anything with it because there is a incredibly small dent along the bezel that happened when I dropped the phone over 1 year ago. It has worked for at least a year on Gingerbread with 0 issues. I was then left to my own devices and after looking at several guides finally decided on a guide video to use for flashing to a custom rom, which I was hoping would fix the problem.
I unlocked the phone, simple enough, and from what I could find came to the conclusion that the guide which was for HBOOT-1.50 S-ON was the same image and process for my phone which is HBOOT-1.58 S-ON. I then used the cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter image to load into a "revolution" menu which allowed me to select the ROM which I had previously loaded onto the phone in the sdcard root directory. I selected MeanROM-v45 as per the video's recommendation and it told me it installed. I then rebooted the phone and saw the fancy new loading animation, then I saw the phone background, then I saw the unlock ring, then the phone rebooted in a never ending cycle. After reading the countless threads on what could be wrong, I tired MeanRom-v4.1, and the stock rom which I was led to believe was "Kingdom_Sprint_WWE-0.81.651.0_Radio_1.05.00.0429_NV-SPCS_2.25_0429_PRL21078_test_188785" and it gave me an error when trying to install. I then did more reading and found a new boot image which is "recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-shooter" and another rom which claimed to be stock which was "Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17651.5_odex". This rom reset the boot animation to the stock Sprint one, but alas all my phone does is constantly reboot, except I did notice it says "Safe Mode" in the lower right hand corner of the background before it reboots. I then tried to use the "RUU_Shooter_ICS_35_S_Sprint_WWE_2.89...." application which I was linked to from one forum post or another, and it gives me an error 155, then gives me another error when it tries to recover. Does anyone know how to correct what I apparently messed up? Sometimes some of the instructions are filled with lingo that i don't quite understand, but i can follow directions if they are sufficiently given.
joebandli said:
I have an Evo3d through Sprint and about a month ago they started sending me notifications to upgrade to Ice cream sandwich. I did such and immediately my touchscreen started going crazy. If I used the keypad in either position it would just randomly add letters all over the place, the home row would just stop working, and the phone would occasionally appear to lock up. I took the phone into the Sprint repair center and they told me they would not do anything with it because there is a incredibly small dent along the bezel that happened when I dropped the phone over 1 year ago. It has worked for at least a year on Gingerbread with 0 issues. I was then left to my own devices and after looking at several guides finally decided on a guide video to use for flashing to a custom rom, which I was hoping would fix the problem.
I unlocked the phone, simple enough, and from what I could find came to the conclusion that the guide which was for HBOOT-1.50 S-ON was the same image and process for my phone which is HBOOT-1.58 S-ON. I then used the cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter image to load into a "revolution" menu which allowed me to select the ROM which I had previously loaded onto the phone in the sdcard root directory. I selected MeanROM-v45 as per the video's recommendation and it told me it installed. I then rebooted the phone and saw the fancy new loading animation, then I saw the phone background, then I saw the unlock ring, then the phone rebooted in a never ending cycle. After reading the countless threads on what could be wrong, I tired MeanRom-v4.1, and the stock rom which I was led to believe was "Kingdom_Sprint_WWE-0.81.651.0_Radio_1.05.00.0429_NV-SPCS_2.25_0429_PRL21078_test_188785" and it gave me an error when trying to install. I then did more reading and found a new boot image which is "recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-shooter" and another rom which claimed to be stock which was "Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17651.5_odex". This rom reset the boot animation to the stock Sprint one, but alas all my phone does is constantly reboot, except I did notice it says "Safe Mode" in the lower right hand corner of the background before it reboots. I then tried to use the "RUU_Shooter_ICS_35_S_Sprint_WWE_2.89...." application which I was linked to from one forum post or another, and it gives me an error 155, then gives me another error when it tries to recover. Does anyone know how to correct what I apparently messed up? Sometimes some of the instructions are filled with lingo that i don't quite understand, but i can follow directions if they are sufficiently given.
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Well since you are S-on and unlocked you have to relock your bootloader to run ruu files. Fastboot oem lock is the command you run in fastboot. Also with older ruu files they only work with older roms and such. as for newer ones like the ics ruu, ics roms such as meanrom ics v2.6 works with only hboot 1.58 and newer firmware. I understand that sometimes these guides and tutorials are not clear enough. That's why you got to ask questions. We are here to help so you can get the best out of your experience with your evo 3d. I would not rely on sprint techs too much because sometimes they will just tell you to do a factory reset. Your phone should be fine. Just relock your bootloader and run the file from the bootloader screen and everything should be peachy. If you want to flash a custom rom after you do the update just unlock your bootloader again. Flash 4ext recovery for your device and do some research on what roms and kernels are compatible with S-on unlocked bootloaders. Fyi 4ext recovery has this thing called the smart flash option that allows you to flash kernels through their recovery without having to do through fastboot. Or try Joeykrims Flash Gui Image. All in all, gaining s-off is the best route to solve most of your problems and makes it easier to flash roms and kernels. There is a method for gaining s-off with the ics ota and hboot 1.58. Just do your research. Best of luck to you.
Oh yeah don't forget to hit the thanks button if I helped you out at all.
Jsparta26 said:
Your phone should be fine. Just relock your bootloader and run the file from the bootloader screen and everything should be peachy.
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Which file are you reffering to from the bootloader screen?
When I Vol Down + Power On this is what I see
***RELOCKED***
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.58.0000
eMMC-boot
May 17 2012,15:06:44
HBOOT
Now that I have relocked the phone it tries to load PG86DIAG.zip (No Image!), PG86DIAG.nbh (No Image!), PG86DIAG.zip (No Image or wrong image!), PG86IMG.zip, and then it does "Checking..[PG86IMG.zip]" and returns Main Version is Older! Update Fail! Press <Power> to reboot.
I know several of the tutorials and even the "How to Fix" guides I was trying to use to restore the phone has me copy PG86IMG.zip to the sdcard root, so I am guessing I need a different image. Now the only problem is that I have to re unlock the phone so I can "fastboot boot cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img" so that I can mount the phone and transfer files to and from it (unless there is another method I can use other than adb, because it does not see it as an attached device)
So what I should do is:
1, Unlock the phone again
2, fastboot boot cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img
3, Mount the phone, and copy a file named "PG86IMG.zip" (Which I need to obtain the correct one)
4, Unmount the phone and then relock it?
What would the next step be and do you know where I can get the correct file?
I appreciate the response, I am at my wits end and was about to go waste some cash buying a new phone.
joebandli said:
What would the next step be and do you know where I can get the correct file?
I appreciate the response, I am at my wits end and was about to go waste some cash buying a new phone.
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Forget about PG86IMG.zip files. Since you are S-ON they have to be signed by HTC and there are very few of those around.
You need the 2.89 RUU.exe from one of the links in this post. Flash that from Windows, then HTC unlock again and follow the guides to flash a custom recovery and then root the stock ROM or a rooted custom ROM.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Forget about PG86IMG.zip files. Since you are S-ON they have to be signed by HTC and there are very few of those around.
You need the 2.89 RUU.exe from one of the links in this post. Flash that from Windows, then HTC unlock again and follow the guides to flash a custom recovery and then root the stock ROM or a rooted custom ROM.
ramjet73
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Thank a ton, that worked to put my phone back to "working" icecream sandwich.
Help... I have rooted my droid x2 in the past a couple of times, but this Rezound is something different and for some reason I just cannot get it. I really need some assistance. I have been reading all over androidcentral and xda-developers all day and night but It's just overwhelming or something has to go wrong. I tried Hasoon's kit, my device wasn't recognized... then I tried HTCdev website... that was successful, but then I locked it after unlocking it, and I figured out that I probably need it unlocked so I can flash a rom... It would just be easier if someone could chat with me on Skype or something and I'd really appreciate if someone could get me going again and maybe chat with me and give me step by step help. My username is mikeonabike11.
Thanks again,
Confused.
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Help... I have rooted my droid x2 in the past a couple of times, but this Rezound is something different and for some reason I just cannot get it. I really need some assistance. I have been reading all over androidcentral and xda-developers all day and night but It's just overwhelming or something has to go wrong. I tried Hasoon's kit, my device wasn't recognized... then I tried HTCdev website... that was successful, but then I locked it after unlocking it, and I figured out that I probably need it unlocked so I can flash a rom... It would just be easier if someone could chat with me on Skype or something and I'd really appreciate if someone could get me going again and maybe chat with me and give me step by step help. My username is mikeonabike11.
Thanks again,
Confused.
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unlock it again. then install amon ra. and then flash a rom. really easy. its over complicated when you read a bunch of forums and try to figure it out yourself
cslingerland said:
unlock it again. then install amon ra. and then flash a rom. really easy. its over complicated when you read a bunch of forums and try to figure it out yourself
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alright. i got it unlocked. i cant figure out the amon ra part...
gs3noob said:
alright. i got it unlocked. i cant figure out the amon ra part...
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1) Grab the PH98IMG.zip from the Amon-Ra thread
2) Stick it on the root of your sdcard
3) Reboot into bootloader
4) Press power - the bootloader will scan for an update package, you should then be prompted to hit volume up to install it. If nothing is found, you didn't place the PH98IMG.zip in the right place.
5) Hit volume up to install
6) Reboot when asked
7) Remove the PH98IMG.zip asap.
You can now reboot back into the bootloader then pick recovery from the menu to get into Amon-Ra. Make sure you back up your existing rom before wiping and installing a new one.
One thing you need to know is that a PH98IMG file can be many things. It is only the name of a file that your phone looks for to use when booted into hboot. So it can be a kernel, an entire RUU (OS), a custom recovery or ROM... basically anything. It just means that item was packed into a PH98IMG file in order to run automatically off your SD card when the phone boots. So you need to know what the PH98IMG file is that you are using or you might flash something you don't want that can possibly cause your phone to not work properly.
You'd be doing yourself a favor by learning to use fastboot for things first so you understand the process more before using the "automated" way of doing everything using a PH98IMG file.
Also, as soon as you have Amon Ra installed and have rooted the phone, make a nandroid of your phone at stock and save that in case you need it if something goes wrong flashing the ROM, as mjones mentioned above. It's much easier to restore the nandroid than getting the RUU to get back to stock.
Another thing to think about is whether or not you want to go s-off or not. It unlocks the security of the phone making it both easier to flash ROMs by letting the kernel flash immediately afterwards by itself and also easier to brick the phone by doing something by mistake. You don't have to s-off, you'll just have to manually flash the kernel after flashing a ROM if you don't. If you don't flash ROMs often you might want to read up about it more before you s-off. I rarely change ROMs and I'm still s-on and it doesn't affect me negatively at all.
Also, there's a "Help" thread in the General section, I think it's a sticky, and some guys have posted their gtalks so that people can hit them up for help. Maybe one of those guys can walk you through it. I would be willing to do it but I'm not as experienced as they are and haven't rooted/flashed anything for a year now.
cslingerland is helping me with mine thanks for the help!
feralicious said:
One thing you need to know is that a PH98IMG file can be many things. It is only the name of a file that your phone looks for to use when booted into hboot. So it can be a kernel, an entire RUU (OS), a custom recovery or ROM... basically anything. It just means that item was packed into a PH98IMG file in order to run automatically off your SD card when the phone boots. So you need to know what the PH98IMG file is that you are using or you might flash something you don't want that can possibly cause your phone to not work properly.
You'd be doing yourself a favor by learning to use fastboot for things first so you understand the process more before using the "automated" way of doing everything using a PH98IMG file.
Also, as soon as you have Amon Ra installed and have rooted the phone, make a nandroid of your phone at stock and save that in case you need it if something goes wrong flashing the ROM, as mjones mentioned above. It's much easier to restore the nandroid than getting the RUU to get back to stock.
Another thing to think about is whether or not you want to go s-off or not. It unlocks the security of the phone making it both easier to flash ROMs by letting the kernel flash immediately afterwards by itself and also easier to brick the phone by doing something by mistake. You don't have to s-off, you'll just have to manually flash the kernel after flashing a ROM if you don't. If you don't flash ROMs often you might want to read up about it more before you s-off. I rarely change ROMs and I'm still s-on and it doesn't affect me negatively at all.
Also, there's a "Help" thread in the General section, I think it's a sticky, and some guys have posted their gtalks so that people can hit them up for help. Maybe one of those guys can walk you through it. I would be willing to do it but I'm not as experienced as they are and haven't rooted/flashed anything for a year now.
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