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First a huge thank you to all who have spent countless hours creating ROMs and posting all the help here on this site. I knew nothing about working with alternate ROMs or Rooting before starting on this journey and would have never been able to get this done without the communiities help. Thank you all.
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History:
I installed Amon RA Recovery using this method this method and then flashed a couple of different ROMs.
Problem:
Recently my screen started continually scrolling to the left even when I'm not touching it. Sucks. So, I'm returning the phone.
I followed the process in this post and everything seemed to work fine to get it back to stock.... I think.
Thinking that Amon RA also needed to be removed I looked at HBoot. I had never seen HBoot before I started messing around with the phone so I'm not sure what I'm supposted to see to verify that it is back to stock. Now when I go into Hboot, I see "Recovery" still which was what I used to flash ROMs backup etc. I'm pretty sure (but I must confess I'm not 100% sure) that was Amon RA Recovery. Now when I select "Recovery" I get a black screen with an picture of my phone and a red alert symbol over it. It never goes anywere from there and I have to reboot. Phone always comes back up OK and I've been using it for two weeks now.
I suspect that is not this "Recovery" behavior is not factory behavior and I'd like to get it corrected before I return it to Verizon.
I've done and TON of searching and poking around, but, I just can't seem to find a difinitive answer with the little knowledge I have. Many of the posts I've found assume more knowledge than I have so I'm a bit lost at this point.
Here are my two questions:
1. How do I get HBoot back to stock and correct the "Recovery" issue (assuming this is an issue)?
2. How do I verify that there is no evidence that I've Rooted and/or how do I verify that I'm correctly "unRooted?"
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
That Recovery that you describe is stock recovery, not Amon's. That part is all set.
The only other thing that you may want to do, if you are paranoid about this (I am not sure that Verizon checks returned phones all that carefully), is to check the first line when you restart in the Bootloader (Hold Vol-Dn while powering up, but I think you already know that.) If the first line ends "S-ON", you have a stock, locked Bootloader. If it says "S-OFF", you have the unlocked bootloader and Verizon could determine that the phone was rooted.
Ok, thanks! It HBoot reads S-On. So, is there any further cleanup I need to do the SD card to prep it to return other than reomove any of the ROMs I have sitting on the root?
I just reverted my eris to OTA 2.1 and hboot reads s-off. Any ideas on how to fix this?
bernadou said:
Ok, thanks! It HBoot reads S-On. So, is there any further cleanup I need to do the SD card to prep it to return other than reomove any of the ROMs I have sitting on the root?
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I think that they make you keep your SD card, so that should be all set. Otherwise, if you truly are paranoid, just copy the SD contents to your computer and format the SD card. That should hide anything. Otherwise, you'd want to get rid of the /Nandroid folder, and I'd use something like Astro to look at all other folders. I believe that there is a setting to check for hidden files and folders (essentially, files and folders whose names start with a period). As I recall, when you flash ROMs, Amon's Recovery creates some sort of hidden folder with the same name as the root file, so you'd want to delete those, probably.
All this said, check out this post:
Well, it still didn't work this morning, so I called back the tech line, and talked to a 'level 2' tech. I told them it was rooted, and the problem I was having, so he said to take it to the local store and have them reflash it to the oem software. Took it by there, and I talked to a guy that works there that rooted a droid and was having problems, told me that I can't go back to the oem sofware after rooting, so they issued me a replacement eris on the spot. Maybe this will take care of the problem, they said if it didn't They could probably swap me for an incredible.
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I doubt that this is official policy, but you may not have to worry too much about it.
primopax said:
I just reverted my eris to OTA 2.1 and hboot reads s-off. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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When there is a S-OFF bootloader on the phone, you can use fastboot to flash a different bootloader in place. This works because the existing bootloader has been copied to (and is running out of) RAM memory.
e.g.
Code:
fastboot flash hboot hboot_7501a_1.47.0000_091023.nb0
You ought to be damn sure you know what you are doing, have fully charged your phone, and have verified the MD5 signature of the replacement bootloader, as this operation is the single most dangerous thing you can do to your Eris.
The stock bootloader image files can be found by unpacking the "rom.zip" files from either of the MR1 or MR2 HTC RUUs (v1.47.0000), or any of the HTC Leak ROMs V1, V2, V3 (v1.49.0000)
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Sorry for the noob question. Ive read many forums and not found astraight answer. I know the answer is out there, just want to get this thing rooted though. My evo 3d is running software version 2.08.651.2. Everything is entirely sock right now. I want root for wireless tether and overclock.
This software meqns i am running hboot 1.5 doesnt it? If so which methods work for root? Ive found several methods and watched several videos. If i try and choose the wrong method what are the consequences? If i couod post links id link the stuff ive found. Thanks guys is it true that the htc method does not achieve s-off?
The software version and hboot version isn't entirely connected 100%.
To check which hboot version you have, you'll have to remove the battery, put it back in, and then hold "Volume Down" button and then power on the phone (Most phones don't require having to remove the battery, but the EVO apparently does, as i found out the hard way after 20 times trying to get into recovery..)
It'll say something along the lines of:
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER_U PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-x.xx.xxxx
Reply with the HBOOT version and i can tell you more. (or someone else can)
If you try and root and S-OFF with the wrong methods, wrong tools, wrong phone etc, you could potentially brick the phone (which, as it sounds, means it'll be just as useful as a brick, since you can't do anything on it.. at all), but that is an absolute worst case scenario, and it will not happen if you do it correctly (which might sound hard, with all the technical mumbo jumbo, but it is actully quite easy).
The officla HTC Method does indeed not achieve S-OFF, so it's not an optimal solution.
Moonbloom said:
The software version and hboot version isn't entirely connected 100%.
To check which hboot version you have, you'll have to remove the battery, put it back in, and then hold "Volume Down" button and then power on the phone (Most phones don't require having to remove the battery, but the EVO apparently does, as i found out the hard way after 20 times trying to get into recovery..)
It'll say something along the lines of:
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER_U PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-x.xx.xxxx
Reply with the HBOOT version and i can tell you more. (or someone else can)
If you try and root and S-OFF with the wrong methods, wrong tools, wrong phone etc, you could potentially brick the phone (which, as it sounds, means it'll be just as useful as a brick, since you can't do anything on it.. at all), but that is an absolute worst case scenario, and it will not happen if you do it correctly (which might sound hard, with all the technical mumbo jumbo, but it is actully quite easy).
The officla HTC Method does indeed not achieve S-OFF, so it's not an optimal solution.
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So, do i need s-off? Im kind of a noob, so really advanced functiojs arent really useful yet. Ive read a few threads trying to figure what s-off is exactly, and it sounds like all it does is open a few extra commands over root. Kind of what i understand busybox does in others. I may misunderstand though. If i go ahead with the htc method of root and revolutionary figures out the s-off next week will i still be able to acheive s-off?
This is somewhat unrelated, but if, when i need to repoace an existing file with a new onein say astro, can i simply rename the old one with like a .bbb on the end and not move it? At several poihts in theroot process you are required to replace an existing file with a new one of the same name. Then replace the old one, or delete the added one. Can I just rename the old one, then put the name back and delete the new one to revert?
Indeed my phone is Hboot version 1.5. It reads
Locked
shooter xc ship s-on rL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Emmc-boot
Aug 7 2011, 10:21:40
So with 1.5 my only option is HTC method? With my tab I am able to completely uninstall and unroot as I please. Is the same true here? can someone link me a video of someone dependable doing it the HTC way? if I post my plan for rooting here will someone let me know if I'm off base so I don't brick my phone?
Can someone tell me the deal with cwm? Does it work or not? If its both ways, then what are the conditions under which it fails? Do I need to install cwm and twrp? What should I plan to do if cwm fails to install?
Another noob question. What is pushing a file exactly, and how and why is it done? I really don't want to get half way through this and discover I dont know what in gods name I'm doing.
I think I read on xda somewhere that if you turn of fastboot in the settings you dont have to remove the battery.
That's a lot of questions, a lot of this info can be found in the wikis and guides in the development section, but I can probably answer a few.
S-on is the encrypted bootloader, you need a special signature to he able to flash any ROMs or anything else to the system. Only HTC has the keys. So s-off allows you to install a custom recovery or anything else that can rewrite to the system.
From what I read so far HTC so called unlocked is not s-off like we are used to. People are having trouble flashing recoveries and kernels to their phones. I haven't payed much attention to the HTC method cause I used the unrevoked method.
You don't need s-off to flash ROMs but I guess if you want complete control over your phone (like the ability to flash bootloaders and various recoveries) you need to be s-off.
If you want to replace a file in the system name the old file extention .bak and then drop the new file in. Reboot to complete the changes. To revert, delete the modified file and just rename and take off the .bak extension.
As of now yes your only method of unlocking is using the HTC method with the 1.50 bootloader. CWM works fine and I think its the only compatible recovery with the 1.50 BL, TWRP is more polished and has a few added functions. I don't know when unrevoked will crack 1.5. Eventually they will.
If you don't know what in gods name your doing, don't mess with it until you do or understand the directions. Go though the general and q&a because I know there are already threads discussing setbacks and situations that your asking about.
Hope this helps.
One other thing to note is you need a different than stock kernal to overclock
Drewmungus said:
One other thing to note is you need a different than stock kernal to overclock
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The problem is HTC's unlock method DOES NOT allow you to flash a kernel! I repeat, it DOES NOT allow you to flash a kernel. I would highly suggest waiting for AlphaRevX and Unrevoked to implement the latest HBOOT to be supported in their tool. It is being worked on and when it is done it will give 100% s-off and unlock nand write protection(or eMMC in our case). It will allow you to flash kernels, radios and whatever else your heart desires. I suggest holding off until Revolutionary is updated. They will then tell you if you need to do HTC's method before theirs or not. If you use HTC's method and then Revolutionary is updated and you want full unlock, there is no way to know if you are screwed or not. We really need a sticky thread describing the difference between the 2 unlock methods and the benefits of each one. There are tons of posts in Q&A and General about 'I have HBOOT 1.50, can I overclock my phone?'...The answer is NO, because you have to be able to flash custom kernels to overclock and HTC is not going to allow that to happen. If they did they would have tons of returned devices from people screwing up their phones from overclocking and flashing radios and what not. It really makes sense to me why HTC didn't fully unlock the phone, but if you wait for the Revolutionary tool to be updated, it will. By then we may even have the latest source code for HTC's 2.3.4 kernel and will have custom kernels to play with. Right now there is no overclockable kernels for the latest update from HTC because they haven't released the kernel source yet.
thats confirmed, no kernel. and dont try. screws things up a little. reflashed. no change. you think if i flash the stock kernel it would let me? i think probably not. rom was doing fine till i attempted kernel though. synergy. its nice. lot nicer with s-off im sure.
***SORRY, I REALISE I HAVE POSTED IN THE WRONG SECTION, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN Q&A, COULD A MOD PLEASE MOVE IT, SORRY***
I feel like i'm being a right royal pain in the as* asking this, but will someone please give me a few pointers on where to start with the rooting process please. I know most of you will be thinking "read the stickies and the forum posts" which i promise you i have for nearly two weeks now, but its an absolute minefield of information and i honestly don't know where to start. This is my first Android handset and the first time i have used the Android operating system, and this is the information i can give you about the handset i have, and by the way, its a european gsm handset with no branding and open to any carrier if this helps..........
Its an HTC Evo 3D X515m
Running Android 2.3.4
Software 1.20.401.8, and when i looked to check my HBOOT (i think thats what its called from reading other posts) this is what i see........
***Locked***
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.49.0018
eMMC-boot
oct 3 2011, 15.03.01
From what i can gather from reading the forums i think i need to first get my bootloader to 1.49.007, and to achieve this i firstly installed a file, which was, PG86IMG.zip onto my sd card, let my handset find it, and reboot in bootloader..........but nothing at all happened. I have no idea if i am barking up the wrong tree or whatever. I also read on many posts that you can unlock using a process on htcdev.com, but there are conflicting views on this, and some people say a lot of roms wont load. I really hope someone will take a little time out to help me with this please, and hopefully once i gain the know-how, i to may be able to help someone else in my situation.....poor devil lol...........Thanks
For rooting your evo 3d you dont need to downgrade your hboot.
The first thing you need to do is to unlock your bootloader, the easy way, htcdev.com
Then you can install SU, and a custom rom, etc., but there is a problem, you cant install roms that came with custom kernels because you are s-on, and if you want to do s-off you need to downgrade your hboot to 1.49.0007.
There are a way to install a custom kernel if you are s-on, you need to extract it from the rom (boot.img) and run it to you phone with adb.
The only thing you need to do is read more.
This post helped me a lot to downgrade my hboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495657
This is for me the best rom for the evo until now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245424
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541210
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***SORRY, I REALISE I HAVE POSTED IN THE WRONG SECTION, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN Q&A, COULD A MOD PLEASE MOVE IT, SORRY***
***Locked***
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.49.0018
eMMC-boot
oct 3 2011, 15.03.01
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In short, you need to downgrade your HBOOT, get to 1.49.0007,
Use this thread to achieve this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471246
Ask there, if it's possible.
Then use the revolutionary tool found here http://revolutionary.io/
To use revolutionary, click windows (if that's what your on) then run through the process, there is a walkthrough on one of the posts in the dev thread
(this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535987)
it's pretty easy, make sure you have adb installed, or at the least the ability to use adb even without the full sdk.
After that you will be S-OFF (security off) you can also install a custom recovery using revolutionarys tool aswell, do so, leave a comment to tell them it worked and say thank you, always say thank you to people who help u.
Download a decent rom, if your GSM then get mikrunny, if your CDMA then use something else, or stick with mikrunny, pop it on your sd card then go to recovery and flash it.
To do this, turn off fastboot from within the device, power off, when powering back on, hold vol down first and then power don't let go, navigate the bootloader using vol up and down, use power to select, click recovery, back up, then wipe data / factory reset, wipe cache and dalvic cache and then install your rom.
That's it.
PS: The hardest thing you will have to do is downgrading hboot, i've never had to do this but it doesn't look impossible and IF YOU LOOK!, the walkthrough here looks pretty good so you should be fine.
There are threads to help you with things like adb if it seems a little daunting, if you think that they do, then you need to research a little more before you jump in, the worst thing you can do with android is give your phone to someone else and let them do everything, just so u can reap the rewards, get your hands dirty a little and get used to doing it yourself, majority of us did and were better for it.
Assume that your on your own because you will only get minimal advice from questions, no one is going to do it for you.
Good luck m8, you'll be fine
I was in EXACTLY the same position as you (same phone versions etc). Just follow this: http://appcounter.blogspot.com/2012/02/installing-custom-rom-for-htc-evo-3d.html
Use my script, everything except that is bull**** and takes too long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495657
if your cid is on the list, you are good to go.
Meet the requierments and go ahead.
Flashmaniac said:
Use my script, everything except that is bull**** and takes too long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495657
if your cid is on the list, you are good to go.
Meet the requierments and go ahead.
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Doesn't your way invalidate the phone warranty? I.e. no way to put phone back to original state if you need to send it back to HTC?
my-planet said:
Doesn't your way invalidate the phone warranty? I.e. no way to put phone back to original state if you need to send it back to HTC?
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what do you think, does the link you put here two posts before?
That even does not work as described, when u are not on the correct softwareversion. Yes, my way does void the warranty. As every way of rooting does....but if you s-off and run a ruu the **RELOCKED** will be gone I think
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Doesn't your way invalidate the phone warranty? I.e. no way to put phone back to original state if you need to send it back to HTC?
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If you tamper with your phone, using the official method or any of the ways stated here, they will all void your warranty.
My apologies, to the OP i wasn't aware that there was an easier way to get to have s-off etc.
All i know is, the way i wrote will work, if the other way is easier then go with that
Yes, of course all this voids your warranty, but the method I linked to (as far as I understand) would not show RELOCKED when putting back to stock. Which means HTC will honour any warranty claim.
From your guide flashmaniac, the first thing you tell to do is unlock via HTC's method. From what I understand that will show unlocked, and when trying to put back to stock, it will show relocked.
Apologies if I have this wrong, as there is 'too' much information out there, and no clear way of knowing what's wrong/right/possible.
Thanks.
my-planet said:
Yes, of course all this voids your warranty, but the method I linked to (as far as I understand) would not show RELOCKED when putting back to stock. Which means HTC will honour any warranty claim.
From your guide flashmaniac, the first thing you tell to do is unlock via HTC's method. From what I understand that will show unlocked, and when trying to put back to stock, it will show relocked.
Apologies if I have this wrong, as there is 'too' much information out there, and no clear way of knowing what's wrong/right/possible.
Thanks.
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N thats it ...
If you unlock your bootloader the HTCdev way, you will never ever be able to set it to LOCKED without changing the Evos motherboard because this way is a hardware modification ...
But its more secure Anyway Id recommend you to downgrade your HBOOT to .xxx7 by flashing an older firmware, then use Revolutionary to s-off and flashing a rooted ROM will do everything you will ever want!
I also used the HTC Unlock, but I regree doing that ... So please dont do this, because HTC gets your S/N AND your verification, so they´ll always know youve unlocked your bootloader this way...
Apart from that HTC does not charge you if you get a hardware problem because this has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader ... Do it as you want
River
River99 said:
Anyway Id recommend you to downgrade your HBOOT to .xxx7 by flashing an older firmware, then use Revolutionary to s-off and flashing a rooted ROM will do everything you will ever want!
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Which is exactly what that link describes for you, in a very simple step by step noob way.
my-planet said:
Which is exactly what that link describes for you, in a very simple step by step noob way.
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As I said before, that tutorial won't work if you are not on the correct sw version.
You wanna do hardware modifications using software? That's fun lol.
Yummy ics
Flashmaniac said:
As I said before, that tutorial won't work if you are not on the correct sw version.
You wanna do hardware modifications using software? That's fun lol.
Yummy ics
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Classic Lol.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
Can i say a big thanks to everyone that has offered their help and advice with rooting my device. Sorry i haven't replied earlier but i've been on shifts at work :-( I find the whole process very intimidating, but today i took Flashmaniacs advice and unlocked my Evo using HTCDEV.com, which i must say i found very straighforward lol. Now i think my next step is to work out how to do a backup of my Evo before i go any further, and work out how to flash a rom.........Is that the right order?
I would suggest to order soup first, but it's tasty even without it.
Odoslané z môjho HTC EVO 3D X515m cez Tapatalk
EDIT: UPDATE .... i managed to get the phone rebooted .... held the force reboot buttons for literally over a min in desperation.... not i need to fully unroot and start from scratch but am having trouble with that still.... can anyone help me either (A) get s-off ... or (B) get it so that i am completely unrooted so i can start over from scratch to get s-off????
Ok folks, i am officially stuck.... its been quite awhile since i have really asked for help on here but i am stuck in a really bad way!!!
Here is how i got to where i am
Just bought my brand new EVO LTE today and went to root it using "[ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.13.12" from this section!
everything seemed to work great and it said everything rooted properly.... I love Clockwork mod recovery so i then flashed that and it worked properly to or so i thought! so i went to create an origional Nand but it would not work, so i decided to flash TWRP back instead and do that way. when going into the bootloader it said "Tampered" as expected, but it still said S-on so obviously not a proper and correct root.
So i ran RegaMOD again as it said in the instructions, but it would never get passed the HTCdev part, it would just say "sucessfully logged out" and sit there forever and do nothing. So after a few tries of that i decided to unroot and start over from scratch. I could not find an unroot method for RegaMOD so i then went to the other root method "How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax" in this section and saw it had an unroot method which i followed to the letter! did full unroot through SuperSU and then downloaded the stock RUU from that section for my phone with the proper version number.
everything seemed to be running fine went to the black "HTC" screen and everything was going smoothly.... then the update failed and my phone stayed on the black HTC screen. my computer prompted me to recover which i could not really do as you can't pull the battery on this phone. So i then tried to update the RUU again except this time it did not list a current software version, only the one i was updating too.... it failed again 2 more times!!
when plugged into the computer my phone displays the black "HTC" screen
when plugged into the charger it displays the following screen info (bootloader look)
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012,19:54:01
FASTBOOT AO <---- MIGHT BE FASTBOOT AC HARD TO TELL
Update Fail!
when un-plugged it says almost the same thing
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012,19:54:01
FASTBOOT <---- THIS IS THE ONLY CHANGE
Update Fail!
no buttons do anything at all, in any combination or holding pattern
PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! THANKS TO ALL IN ADVANCE!!!
just one thing, s-on or s-ff has nothing to do with root
did you relock your bootloader before running the RUU?
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
no, i did not re-lock the boot loader.... didnt know you needed to, not used to that on the OG EVO... how do you go about redoing that? I always thought S-OFF was an important part of root..... the main reason i looked and noticed it was since i flashed clockworkmod recovery and wanted to go back to TWRP i read on their page that "You must be S-OFF or have taken HTC's unlock to use a recovery on your device!" I guess that since i used HTC unlock i could flash, but either way, should i need to go back to stock for any reason, could you please tell me the proper steps?
Thanks a million!!!
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And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
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Sorry I just got excited, I have run root on my last 2 phones (much more research on those) and just kinda fell into a super late night lazy not thinking groove... please dont be offended, the reason a rarely dont ask for help is i usually have not needed it.... no need to get hostile.... thankyou for the responce
smw6180 said:
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
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shootin4aces said:
Sorry I just got excited, I have run root on my last 2 phones (much more research on those) and just kinda fell into a super late night lazy not thinking groove... please dont be offended, the reason a rarely dont ask for help is i usually have not needed it.... no need to get hostile.... thankyou for the responce
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Wasn't being hostile and I'm not offended. It's just there are entirely too many people who haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and get upset about it when it all blows up in their face.
And for the record every phone is different. I've rooted my last 4 Android phones, 3 evo's and the hero, and root was different on each one, with different potential problems. Being excited is great. But you need to take the time to learn what you're doing, first.
shootin4aces said:
no, i did not re-lock the boot loader.... didnt know you needed to, not used to that on the OG EVO... how do you go about redoing that? I always thought S-OFF was an important part of root..... the main reason i looked and noticed it was since i flashed clockworkmod recovery and wanted to go back to TWRP i read on their page that "You must be S-OFF or have taken HTC's unlock to use a recovery on your device!" I guess that since i used HTC unlock i could flash, but either way, should i need to go back to stock for any reason, could you please tell me the proper steps?
Thanks a million!!!
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read the post above yours he did tell you how to do it..lol
Oh and before I forget: Don't use CWM. Unless they've fixed it in the last couple of days it breaks your /misc partition, which is quite probably what caused your issues in the first place.
Use TWRP. After you have root/unlocked you can download goomanager from the Play Store...it will install it for you.
smw6180 said:
Wasn't being hostile and I'm not offended. It's just there are entirely too many people who haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and get upset about it when it all blows up in their face.
And for the record every phone is different. I've rooted my last 4 Android phones, 3 evo's and the hero, and root was different on each one, with different potential problems. Being excited is great. But you need to take the time to learn what you're doing, first.
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+1 and wrong section
This is the method I used on my 4lte without a problem. But you should read entire post before attempting cause it flashes TWRP recovery automatically along with SU. Clockwork still is buggy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26955832
from my "Beach Watcher" 4LTE
thankyou
all problems have been fixed, thankyou everyone for all your help
again, sry for posting in the wrong forum with this issue, and i am sorry if i came off as a noob! I'm really not, just completely jumped the gun and am very very tired as i have been up for almost 36 hours now
thankyou again for all the help, and as i normally do, i will perform all my research before my next venture.... a lot has changed between this phone and my last one that i rooted and modded, i will be more prepared in the future!
Selders, you're here now?! Good to see ya here
sent from a shining jewel 4g LTE
okay, first I did the wire trick and got my phone to s-off then noticed it was locked so I went through the unlocking using htcdev run through which should mean my phone is rooted and s-off, correct?
second, what is this whole thing with the MD5 thing...I went through pages and pages and it didn't say specifically where the MD5 was needed to be use. sorry, if I sound like an idiot for asking that question...my brain is fried from this whole process of s-off then had to unlock.
third, and lastly...I can't for the life of me update to one of the new roms like Business_ICS4.0.3_Sense4.0-v2.6, I thought after you s-off that you only had to rename it to PH98IMG and let it automatically load at the bootloader screen, it would go through process with the bar on the right hand of the screen filling up but once it was done it just stayed on bootloader screen...the only one rom that worked for me was the Global RUU4.03.605.2 from [ROM][08.20.12] Simplistic 3.0 [ICS Sense Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]....none of the others worked
thanks for any help you guys can give me
kevinvu34 said:
okay, first I did the wire trick and got my phone to s-off then noticed it was locked so I went through the unlocking using htcdev run through which should mean my phone is rooted and s-off, correct?
second, what is this whole thing with the MD5 thing...I went through pages and pages and it didn't say specifically where the MD5 was needed to be use. sorry, if I sound like an idiot for asking that question...my brain is fried from this whole process of s-off then had to unlock.
third, and lastly...I can't for the life of me update to one of the new roms like Business_ICS4.0.3_Sense4.0-v2.6, I thought after you s-off that you only had to rename it to PH98IMG and let it automatically load at the bootloader screen, it would go through process with the bar on the right hand of the screen filling up but once it was done it just stayed on bootloader screen...the only one rom that worked for me was the Global RUU4.03.605.2 from [ROM][08.20.12] Simplistic 3.0 [ICS Sense Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]....none of the others worked
thanks for any help you guys can give me
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Do not rename it. Just put it on your sdcard2 and flash in recovery. Factory reset and wipe cache first in recovery.
Will not install in bootloader that is ror kernels and ruu's etc. Not ROMs
kevinvu34 said:
okay, first I did the wire trick and got my phone to s-off then noticed it was locked so I went through the unlocking using htcdev run through which should mean my phone is rooted and s-off, correct?
second, what is this whole thing with the MD5 thing...I went through pages and pages and it didn't say specifically where the MD5 was needed to be use. sorry, if I sound like an idiot for asking that question...my brain is fried from this whole process of s-off then had to unlock.
third, and lastly...I can't for the life of me update to one of the new roms like Business_ICS4.0.3_Sense4.0-v2.6, I thought after you s-off that you only had to rename it to PH98IMG and let it automatically load at the bootloader screen, it would go through process with the bar on the right hand of the screen filling up but once it was done it just stayed on bootloader screen...the only one rom that worked for me was the Global RUU4.03.605.2 from [ROM][08.20.12] Simplistic 3.0 [ICS Sense Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]....none of the others worked
thanks for any help you guys can give me
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1. When you have s-off on the top it should say "locked" because s-off > unlock. i would leave it locked.
2. MD5 is a number generated when a zip is made. when you download something off the internet, it has the ability to mess up and download incorrectly. The reason why people say to check the MD5 because certain stuff can brick your phone if it is incorrect. to check you can use a bunch of different programs on or off your phone. just search google for it.
3. Let me explain root vs s-off:
Root, well it is what it sounds like. Root means you will have root access to the lowest part of the system partition. Meaning you have the ability to rewrite the system OS like flashing different roms and themes or even installing apps to the system partition. (you dont need s-off to obtain root. just an unlocked boot loader that will let you get to that level.)
s-off, the "S" stands for security. The difference between S-on and S-off is that the bootloader is 100% open. This means you can not only gain root but you can change the inner core workings of the device. Kernels, recovery, bootloader, splash screens, and radios. Stuff that can brick your phone instantaneously, stuff that the manufacturer doesnt want you touching because they dont want to offer a free phone if you do end up bricking it.
3.1 when flashing a rom you always do it in recovery, unless you are returning the phone to stock then you would use an RUU
now this isnt a scare tactic, this is a learning process. Just be careful in what you put on your device and dont rush, take your time when it comes to modifying you phone. Always check the MD5 sums on things that you want to try, and ALWAYS read as much as you can on what you are about to do.
I see, the problem I've having now is when I go into to recovery and let it load it show harddrive icon and green loading but then a black phone icon pops up with a red triangle(exclamation in the middle)
kevinvu34 said:
I see, the problem I've having now is when I go into to recovery and let it load it show harddrive icon and green loading but then a black phone icon pops up with a red triangle(exclamation in the middle)
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That means you have the stock recovery. You need to install a third party one. Like amon ra
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Clearly you haven't read up enough on what to do before messing with this phone. I recommend Scotty's noob guide. I think it's the best that you can find. You went s-off without figuring out that you need a recovery? One of the best pieces of advice I've ever gotten (for this particular process) is to read, read, read. It's not a joke. You sound like you are in over your head. I'm not trying to flame, but a few hours spent reading about this online would have cleared up a lot of your questions.
Agreed. He is correct about the reading. And read a lot. Read everything in the stickies and everything not in the stickies. Also read everything that is not a Rom thread. Then after all that reading , you can read the roms. Scott noob guide is good place to start I think also.
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figured everything out, thanks everyone for all the help...