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Im currently using CM9 latest nightly, but as much as I love AOSP, I never feels as smooth as samsung based roms. Why is that? Kernel? Drivers? Optimizations?
If its kernel, which is (Opinion based) the smoothest available?
thnx
Im looking for the smoothest experience, is there a kernel or any t
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ATM cm9 roms have a bit touch issue, so it feels like its not smooth
But when their wasn't any touch issue then people said its much smoother than stock
once you taste aosp ics you never go back
just wait till it hit stable and samsung rom wont even come close
^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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most of the fixes like video recording were done in hurry ,noobes flaming etc
now the devs are working on cleaning and optimizing the code now
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/03/30/cm9-status-for-galaxy-s-ii/
You can try with another ROM, I'm currently in Thebyani 3.7 it uses Siyah v3.0rc1 kernel and Vertumus Theme.
Its really smooth and fast and the look it's very AOSP, no TW bloat.
Just to give context of what I am trying to get, here's the background information:
I had HTC Thunderbolt and the stock Verizon ROM was really bad.
ISSUE: bad battery life, crashes, random reboots, etc.
SOLUTION: I tried MANY custom ROM and after a long time, found one that works great and stuck with it for months. Although I am OK installing custom ROM, but the journey of finding which one is right is NOT something I enjoy (multiple ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
Afterwards, I bought an International version of Galaxy Note, a CARRIER-UNLOCK phone with none of the carrier crap or firmware. The stock ROM works great, so much so I don't have to install a custom ROM
- ISSUE: NONE! Great battery life, really fast and buttery smooth
- SOLUTION: NONE!
Unfortunately, my International Note went defective and it was not covered under Samsung Warranty. Not wanting to go through the same non-warranty issue, I am planning to buy the AT&T version of the Note.
So my question is:
Using the STOCK AT&T ROM, do YOU get the following:
- Good battery life (at least 8 hours - I don't mind rooting and freezing some crap)
- Fast OS performance (not laggy, etc.)
- Stable OS
I don't care about ICS or what not, I just want something that works with the above.
I am just trying to figure out if I have to go through the same thing when I had my Thunderbolt (see above) or not.
It's sort of a subjective thing so you really need to try it out for yourself. That said, most users are reporting great results with the stock ROM.
kimtyson said:
It's sort of a subjective thing so you really need to try it out for yourself. That said, most users are reporting great results with the stock ROM.
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Do you get at least 8 hours of battery life?
lanwarrior said:
Do you get at least 8 hours of battery life?
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I get 14 to 16 on saurom overclock 1.83 on demand
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!*"
Android The Greek said:
I get 14 to 16 on saurom overclock 1.83 on demand
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I get the same on stock rooted oc'd 1.73 on demand.
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froidroid said:
I get the same on stock rooted oc'd 1.73 on demand.
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Since you don't use custom ROM, which app do you use to control the CPU? CPURoot?
Also, is your Note stable and fast performance wise? I.e. playing 3D games doesn't stutter, opening large Word or Excel file is smooth, etc.
Set CPU and yes, it's very smooth and stable. The only game I had minor issues with was temple run. I haven't had a single problem since oc'ng. After root I flashed Da g's oc'd kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
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hey people and good day!
im new to s3 just bought it today and im still having the galaxy note in my hand
but itv very big for me
and i feel the changing with smoothness the s3 is incredible smooth
so my question is,should i root it and put custom rom?
because in my notre i change almost every 3 days the rom because the note little bit lag
but here with s3 its looks goddes with everything
so should i do it it will be better with the custom roms or it will make it more lag then the stock??????
bubu23 said:
hey people and good day!
im new to s3 just bought it today and im still having the galaxy note in my hand
but itv very big for me
and i feel the changing with smoothness the s3 is incredible smooth
so my question is,should i root it and put custom rom?
because in my notre i change almost every 3 days the rom because the note little bit lag
but here with s3 its looks goddes with everything
so should i do it it will be better with the custom roms or it will make it more lag then the stock??????
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It really depends on the rom and kernel you are using. At the moment I am on Omega 4.2 (going to update to 5.0 now) and SiyahKernel 1.0 over clocked at 1.6GHz. I find the S3 very smooth, more compared to stock. The stock rom is pretty smooth but if you feel that there is a lag you could always install a custom rom and kernel. With the SiyahKernel you can overclock upto 1.8GHz.
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It really depends on the rom and kernel you are using. At the moment I am on Omega 4.2 (going to update to 5.0 now) and SiyahKernel 1.0 over clocked at 1.6GHz. I find the S3 very smooth, more compared to stock. The stock rom is pretty smooth but if you feel that there is a lag you could always install a custom rom and kernel. With the SiyahKernel you can overclock upto 1.8GHz.
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What is even the point of overclocking this phone with the software available now? There is really no need. I've actually used SetCPU to downclock my CPU when battery gets below 40% to save battery, and even more at 20%.. and it still runs fine.You're just wasting battery and shortening the life of your phone.
Stock is smooth as poop, ask yourself if you're happy with smoothness and speed.. Why risk to get weird bugs like camera fc all of the sudden etc?
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Agree you need to read what the custom rom is offering in real terms not hype and decide . bear in mind that every custom rom built claims to be faster smoother saves your battery and will fly you to your destination in first class .Few say hey this rom is slower than stock as i have messed with stuff and cut and pasted a few themes .
jje
PS saying that i am in the process of flashing a stock rom purely to test out my recovery procedures for getting back to a clean stock rom .
I have a question about installing a custom ROM, will it wipe your device after installing the custrom ROM? (I want to install the latest firmware AF2) TIA
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I have a question about installing a custom ROM, will it wipe your device after installing the custrom ROM? (I want to install the latest firmware AF2) TIA
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Nope.
bortak said:
What is even the point of overclocking this phone with the software available now? There is really no need. I've actually used SetCPU to downclock my CPU when battery gets below 40% to save battery, and even more at 20%.. and it still runs fine.You're just wasting battery and shortening the life of your phone.
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By doing underclock is battery save notic able? Will it harm cpu as it always underclock and then again back to normal?
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By doing underclock is battery save notic able? Will it harm cpu as it always underclock and then again back to normal?
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Nope, underclocking won't harm it, having a massive overclock for most of the phone's life will probably shorten it's lifespan though.
Ok right now I have a US 4.0 player and I'm currently running the stock rom. It runs fairly smoothly and I get a Quadrant score of just 1264. Previously I have successfully rooted it, installed Terrasilent kernel 1.3.5. I then installed EtherealRom 2.4. But I noticed that the player did not run smoothly at all, even though I got a slightly higher Quadrant score of 1330ish. I then went back to stock and things again ran smoothly even at the lower Quadrant score. So I rooted it again and installed Terrasilent kernel again. I then installed the Icy Fusion V2.3 rom. Again the player really lagged even through I was getting a higher Quadrant score than stock. When playing music through Poweramp doing anything else at all makes it stutter like crazy. And I tried other music players with the same result. Even scrolling through the screens get's all laggy when nothing is running. All I really use my player for is music, gps, surfing the web and reading rss articles. I don't play any games on it. I have tried switching to Ext4 and that didn't help either. Does anyone have any idea why using a custom kernel and rom makes it run so much crappier than stock? I know other people are getting it to run good with the custom rom and kernel. I'm just not sure what to try to get the same results as others.
I'm no expert on ROMs but remember stock has everything working like HW acceleration so that might be it. And also ICS is more demanding the 2.3 so it could be that. For me stock wasn't smooth at all.
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I'm no expert on ROMs but remember stock has everything working like HW acceleration so that might be it. And also ICS is more demanding the 2.3 so it could be that. For me stock wasn't smooth at all.
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Thanks for the response, but I'm pretty sure that both the roms I tried are both 2.3 variants, not ICS.
I tried flashing Terrasilent and Icy Fusion again and kept it overnight to see if anything needed time to process in the background. But as of today it is still running as before, very laggy and choppy.
Hanthesolo has some i9000 ports to the galaxy player 4 that worked very good for me.
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Most of the time ROMs don't run as smooth as the original stock one. However, I used both Ethereal and IcyFusion and I haven't seen much lag on either. You should try bumping up the min clock speed to 400mhz or 800mhz, and keeping the max clock speed at 1000mhz. Also I listen to PowerAmp, while using Voodoo Amplifier, DSP Manager, and emulating genesis/snes games at a clock speed of 800mhz to 1000 mhz and I only see micro lag at best. Sometimes you might have too many background apps running on the player, so I would go to task manager and if you see that is 300mb or more for ram usage then that's why the player is lagging.
I use icy fusion along with terrasilent and had same results until I installed autokiller memory optimizer. I have it set to extreme. Smooth as butter now. I also have min set to 400 and max set to 1000 using set CPU.
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I just tried out alpha 4 of CM10 on my player 5.0
I did not overclock that
but it is quite smooth for UI animations/transitions.
Maybe because it is Jelly Bean
5.0 and 4.0 has the same hardware, why is it that 5.0 is smoother than 4.0?
Thanks for the tips guys! It was a memory issue I guess. Not sure why stock handled it better, but once I installed a task killer things smoothed right out in the Ethereal rom.
I will switch to an ICS rom once they get that camera figured out. I know the 4.0 camera isn't great, but I use it a lot.
My friend told me that it is best to stick with CM7 because it does not have ad many bugs as CM9 or CM10
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I use daily on GP 5.0 chip rom with adw launcher on 1.5 ghz and V6 supercharged...its so much smoother than stock that cant compare.
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Also I just wanted to add that I've tried every launcher available on the market and the best running one for me is launcher pro. Everyone said its old and outdated but hands down, its been the best launcher in terms of performance. The only thing that has come close is the new smart launcher. But it needs a few things added in features for me to use it every day. Good luck.
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Also I just wanted to add that I've tried every launcher available on the market and the best running one for me is launcher pro. Everyone said its old and outdated but hands down, its been the best launcher in terms of performance. The only thing that has come close is the new smart launcher. But it needs a few things added in features for me to use it every day. Good luck.
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tru new adw launcher ex ..its fast and awsome..i even use it on nexus 6
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Gaideran said:
Ok right now I have a US 4.0 player and I'm currently running the stock rom. It runs fairly smoothly and I get a Quadrant score of just 1264. Previously I have successfully rooted it, installed Terrasilent kernel 1.3.5. I then installed EtherealRom 2.4. But I noticed that the player did not run smoothly at all, even though I got a slightly higher Quadrant score of 1330ish. I then went back to stock and things again ran smoothly even at the lower Quadrant score. So I rooted it again and installed Terrasilent kernel again. I then installed the Icy Fusion V2.3 rom. Again the player really lagged even through I was getting a higher Quadrant score than stock. When playing music through Poweramp doing anything else at all makes it stutter like crazy. And I tried other music players with the same result. Even scrolling through the screens get's all laggy when nothing is running. All I really use my player for is music, gps, surfing the web and reading rss articles. I don't play any games on it. I have tried switching to Ext4 and that didn't help either. Does anyone have any idea why using a custom kernel and rom makes it run so much crappier than stock? I know other people are getting it to run good with the custom rom and kernel. I'm just not sure what to try to get the same results as others.
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I noticed that the stock rom on 5.0 runs better than the custom gingerbread rom we have.
You should try an ICS rom. Yes, the camera doesn't work, but you have a Turbocharged device with amazing battery life.
The camera on the 5.0 is pretty ****ty, so i don't care about it.
Also, in Gingerbead, transitions and animations are done by the CPU, while in ICS, GPU does the job. Thats why ICS is 1000000x smoother than Ginberbread on Player 5.0
And with ICS, i don't lose any battery percentage at night, basically you have 5x standby time.
And the RAM managment on ICS is much better, i never noticed any jaggies or lag on my player since i put RemICS on it. :good:
So i just switched to Tmobile and got myself a shinny ATT Note. tried flashing a few roms. CM10.1 Avatar, Jedi, Blackstar, and a few kernels, Phase and Uber, and even a few radios.
so my question? is this phone slow for everyone? it crawls way to often, to the point of instability. lags overall.
thought it be alot better, coming off an EVO, EVO 3D, Galaxy Nexus LTE, this just seems like ive made the wrong choice.
its possible its just mine? if so gotta know so i can dump it!!
Did you do clean installs? My phone is back on a stock debloated att ROM and its doesn't fly but its pretty stable and smooth. I've had some really laggy Roms but I would start with at least a stock based ROM. Then search for a stable jb rom. I was on padawn and beanstalk and a few other Roms that where fairly smooth.
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I experience no lag. I came from the HTC inspire and there is no comparison. I test out between 7500 - 8000 using the Carbon ROM, without over clocking my CPU or GPU.
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I experience no lag. I came from the HTC inspire and there is no comparison. I test out between 7500 - 8000 using the Carbon ROM, without over clocking my CPU or GPU.
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I want to say it could be the way he is flashing or not whipping for a fresh install. Or also could be the Roms he flashed.
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did you test all governor/ I/O scheduler combonations. all phones react differently to diff setups. if not using the best setup for your phone you will get an insane amount of lag. but choose right and it will fly. my phone likes fantasy/sio/1728/384
I would not call the galaxy note a rocket ship! Some ROMS start out relatively speedy and then lag over time and require frequent reboots to free up system resources. I have found the debloated stock JB rom to be the best combination of performance and stability. It does what I need it to do, when I need it to do it.
The stock JB kernel is more stable than the phase kernel. I wouldn't bother flashing that if you are on TW based JB. The UBER kernel had great performance on the AOSP and CM based roms, but the ROMs themselves had some stability issues and other fuctionality issues. If I were you, I would do a complete ODIN flash back to stock, then start from there...root, recovery.....etc
Then see if you are still having the same issues.
The Note both fast AND slow...it just depends on what you are comparing it to.
I had my i717 side by side with my i9000 (Galaxy S1) last night...both are running SlimBean...I have JD's UBER kernel on the i717 overclocked to 1.8GHz...stock kernel on the i9000 (1GHz). The i717 was WAY faster than the i9000.
Then I had the i717 beside my brand new, bone stock, still bloated i337M (Galaxy S4)...and the S4 blew the Note out of the water.
Odin is worth the try. i never do dirty installs. always install APKs with no data restores. full wipes of everything but sdcard, been using Goomanager to do most of my flashes with TWRP 2.6.1 , but also doing it manually.
I've had my Note since the beginning of May and I can't say it's a laggy device. My experience has been that the Samsung ROMs are lagier than the AOSP or CM based ROMs but are more stable. On average with a Samsung ROM, I have about 200Mb of free memory where as with the AOSP or CM ROMs I get about 300Mb free.
A super fast ROM I can recommend for you is Carbon. Very fast ROM. Have it also on my Samsung Nexus S and it is really smooth.
Anyways, aside of the performance, the Note has awesome features that you won't find on other phones (or tablets )
Also might want to backup your data from your sd card and format it as well. Ive seen corrupted files on the ext sd card cause rom performance issues.
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So i just switched to Tmobile and got myself a shinny ATT Note. tried flashing a few roms. CM10.1 Avatar, Jedi, Blackstar, and a few kernels, Phase and Uber, and even a few radios.
so my question? is this phone slow for everyone? it crawls way to often, to the point of instability. lags overall.
thought it be alot better, coming off an EVO, EVO 3D, Galaxy Nexus LTE, this just seems like ive made the wrong choice.
its possible its just mine? if so gotta know so i can dump it!!
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WOW, slow down and breathe........................
you make it sound as if you have flashed all this in about a 6 hour time span.
how long have you had the Note?
how much of a chance did you give ROM's to settle in?
your flashing kernals too? right kernel with right ROM?
again, are you giving that a chance to settle?
AOSP ROM's are fast and a lot of options, usually sacrificing stability
Touchwiz is going to give you stability and with Trickster mod, I get NO lag at all. never a reboot either
my phone has never run better than it does on Padawan.