Ok right now I have a US 4.0 player and I'm currently running the stock rom. It runs fairly smoothly and I get a Quadrant score of just 1264. Previously I have successfully rooted it, installed Terrasilent kernel 1.3.5. I then installed EtherealRom 2.4. But I noticed that the player did not run smoothly at all, even though I got a slightly higher Quadrant score of 1330ish. I then went back to stock and things again ran smoothly even at the lower Quadrant score. So I rooted it again and installed Terrasilent kernel again. I then installed the Icy Fusion V2.3 rom. Again the player really lagged even through I was getting a higher Quadrant score than stock. When playing music through Poweramp doing anything else at all makes it stutter like crazy. And I tried other music players with the same result. Even scrolling through the screens get's all laggy when nothing is running. All I really use my player for is music, gps, surfing the web and reading rss articles. I don't play any games on it. I have tried switching to Ext4 and that didn't help either. Does anyone have any idea why using a custom kernel and rom makes it run so much crappier than stock? I know other people are getting it to run good with the custom rom and kernel. I'm just not sure what to try to get the same results as others.
I'm no expert on ROMs but remember stock has everything working like HW acceleration so that might be it. And also ICS is more demanding the 2.3 so it could be that. For me stock wasn't smooth at all.
Karim.younus said:
I'm no expert on ROMs but remember stock has everything working like HW acceleration so that might be it. And also ICS is more demanding the 2.3 so it could be that. For me stock wasn't smooth at all.
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Thanks for the response, but I'm pretty sure that both the roms I tried are both 2.3 variants, not ICS.
I tried flashing Terrasilent and Icy Fusion again and kept it overnight to see if anything needed time to process in the background. But as of today it is still running as before, very laggy and choppy.
Hanthesolo has some i9000 ports to the galaxy player 4 that worked very good for me.
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Most of the time ROMs don't run as smooth as the original stock one. However, I used both Ethereal and IcyFusion and I haven't seen much lag on either. You should try bumping up the min clock speed to 400mhz or 800mhz, and keeping the max clock speed at 1000mhz. Also I listen to PowerAmp, while using Voodoo Amplifier, DSP Manager, and emulating genesis/snes games at a clock speed of 800mhz to 1000 mhz and I only see micro lag at best. Sometimes you might have too many background apps running on the player, so I would go to task manager and if you see that is 300mb or more for ram usage then that's why the player is lagging.
I use icy fusion along with terrasilent and had same results until I installed autokiller memory optimizer. I have it set to extreme. Smooth as butter now. I also have min set to 400 and max set to 1000 using set CPU.
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I just tried out alpha 4 of CM10 on my player 5.0
I did not overclock that
but it is quite smooth for UI animations/transitions.
Maybe because it is Jelly Bean
5.0 and 4.0 has the same hardware, why is it that 5.0 is smoother than 4.0?
Thanks for the tips guys! It was a memory issue I guess. Not sure why stock handled it better, but once I installed a task killer things smoothed right out in the Ethereal rom.
I will switch to an ICS rom once they get that camera figured out. I know the 4.0 camera isn't great, but I use it a lot.
My friend told me that it is best to stick with CM7 because it does not have ad many bugs as CM9 or CM10
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I use daily on GP 5.0 chip rom with adw launcher on 1.5 ghz and V6 supercharged...its so much smoother than stock that cant compare.
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Also I just wanted to add that I've tried every launcher available on the market and the best running one for me is launcher pro. Everyone said its old and outdated but hands down, its been the best launcher in terms of performance. The only thing that has come close is the new smart launcher. But it needs a few things added in features for me to use it every day. Good luck.
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Also I just wanted to add that I've tried every launcher available on the market and the best running one for me is launcher pro. Everyone said its old and outdated but hands down, its been the best launcher in terms of performance. The only thing that has come close is the new smart launcher. But it needs a few things added in features for me to use it every day. Good luck.
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tru new adw launcher ex ..its fast and awsome..i even use it on nexus 6
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Ok right now I have a US 4.0 player and I'm currently running the stock rom. It runs fairly smoothly and I get a Quadrant score of just 1264. Previously I have successfully rooted it, installed Terrasilent kernel 1.3.5. I then installed EtherealRom 2.4. But I noticed that the player did not run smoothly at all, even though I got a slightly higher Quadrant score of 1330ish. I then went back to stock and things again ran smoothly even at the lower Quadrant score. So I rooted it again and installed Terrasilent kernel again. I then installed the Icy Fusion V2.3 rom. Again the player really lagged even through I was getting a higher Quadrant score than stock. When playing music through Poweramp doing anything else at all makes it stutter like crazy. And I tried other music players with the same result. Even scrolling through the screens get's all laggy when nothing is running. All I really use my player for is music, gps, surfing the web and reading rss articles. I don't play any games on it. I have tried switching to Ext4 and that didn't help either. Does anyone have any idea why using a custom kernel and rom makes it run so much crappier than stock? I know other people are getting it to run good with the custom rom and kernel. I'm just not sure what to try to get the same results as others.
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I noticed that the stock rom on 5.0 runs better than the custom gingerbread rom we have.
You should try an ICS rom. Yes, the camera doesn't work, but you have a Turbocharged device with amazing battery life.
The camera on the 5.0 is pretty ****ty, so i don't care about it.
Also, in Gingerbead, transitions and animations are done by the CPU, while in ICS, GPU does the job. Thats why ICS is 1000000x smoother than Ginberbread on Player 5.0
And with ICS, i don't lose any battery percentage at night, basically you have 5x standby time.
And the RAM managment on ICS is much better, i never noticed any jaggies or lag on my player since i put RemICS on it. :good:
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Im currently using CM9 latest nightly, but as much as I love AOSP, I never feels as smooth as samsung based roms. Why is that? Kernel? Drivers? Optimizations?
If its kernel, which is (Opinion based) the smoothest available?
thnx
Im looking for the smoothest experience, is there a kernel or any t
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ATM cm9 roms have a bit touch issue, so it feels like its not smooth
But when their wasn't any touch issue then people said its much smoother than stock
once you taste aosp ics you never go back
just wait till it hit stable and samsung rom wont even come close
^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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most of the fixes like video recording were done in hurry ,noobes flaming etc
now the devs are working on cleaning and optimizing the code now
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/03/30/cm9-status-for-galaxy-s-ii/
You can try with another ROM, I'm currently in Thebyani 3.7 it uses Siyah v3.0rc1 kernel and Vertumus Theme.
Its really smooth and fast and the look it's very AOSP, no TW bloat.
I just had two SGS2's side by side to compare. A completely stock one (GB) against my rooted SGS2 with HyDrOG3NiCs rom and latest siyah kernel (Force GPU 2D rendering + Overclocked GPU profile) and the stock one was just smoother and snappier while scrolling between homescreens and through the application menu. I have some apps installed (1 time widget +2email widgets + 4 shortcuts on the homescreen + 8 shortcuts on another homescreen). While the other one is completely stock (and seems to have just as many apps in the application menu as me)
I've tried several ICS ROMs so far and they all seemed the same (speed wise). Does everyone experience this? Wasnt ICS supposed to make android f aster?
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I just had two SGS2's side by side to compare. A completely stock one (GB) against my rooted SGS2 with HyDrOG3NiCs rom and latest siyah kernel (Force GPU 2D rendering + Overclocked GPU profile) and the stock one was just smoother and snappier while scrolling between homescreens and through the application menu. I have some apps installed (1 time widget +2email widgets + 4 shortcuts on the homescreen + 8 shortcuts on another homescreen). While the other one is completely stock (and seems to have just as many apps in the application menu as me)
I've tried several ICS ROMs so far and they all seemed the same (speed wise). Does everyone experience this? Wasnt ICS supposed to make android f aster?
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ICS was slower in the beginning but I can say that now it is smoother than GB! The only thing that is better on GB is battery life
ICS = lags - slower than iphone 4
Stock GB = smoother than iphone 4
I tried many different ROMs like wanamlite/spike pure ICS/resurrection remix/MIUI/and now on hydrogenics... not one of them was as fast as GB...
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I just had two SGS2's side by side to compare. A completely stock one (GB) against my rooted SGS2 with HyDrOG3NiCs rom and latest siyah kernel (Force GPU 2D rendering + Overclocked GPU profile) and the stock one was just smoother and snappier while scrolling between homescreens and through the application menu. I have some apps installed (1 time widget +2email widgets + 4 shortcuts on the homescreen + 8 shortcuts on another homescreen). While the other one is completely stock (and seems to have just as many apps in the application menu as me)
I've tried several ICS ROMs so far and they all seemed the same (speed wise). Does everyone experience this? Wasnt ICS supposed to make android f aster?
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AOSP based roms have sticky scrolling and GB roms have free flow scrolling
That might be the reason you find one slow and one faster
But honestly ics is not yet fully optimized as android 2.1 was slow but 2.2 and 2.3 brought HUGE difference
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ICS = lags - slower than iphone 4
Stock GB = smoother than iphone 4
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id suggest you change your ics rom
ics used to be laggy, it isnt anymore and the samsung roms have the same scrolling as GB did.
Yes I agree, I have stock ICS now and before a few days I saw my aunts SG2 she doesnt update it usually so she has GB and I realised its much much smoother , but I think with time it will get better.
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id suggest you change your ics rom
ics used to be laggy, it isnt anymore and the samsung roms have the same scrolling as GB did.
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So i have to flash only stock samsung ROMs to get the smooth experience? Isn't flashing a pure ICS rom supposed to be even lighter (hence faster?)?
And if you suggest I do so, change my rom to what?
I've been using Android since 1.5 on the g1 have since used many different handsets and versions of Android. for me, scrolling had never been as smooth and responsive as it is now on my gs2. I'm using aokp foxhound and it's definitely better than any gingerbread ROM I've used on it. It's especially better than my step moms brand new stock gs2. Sorry to disagree.
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So i have to flash only stock samsung ROMs to get the smooth experience? Isn't flashing a pure ICS rom supposed to be even lighter (hence faster?)?
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Correct, Samsung-based is way smoother than AKxP-based Roms.
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So i have to flash only stock samsung ROMs to get the smooth experience? Isn't flashing a pure ICS rom supposed to be even lighter (hence faster?)?
And if you suggest I do so, change my rom to what?
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well i never said only to flash stock samsung roms, i said roms based from samsung are smooth. Personally ive found vk rom and neat rom to be very smooth and fast but each rom im trying on XWLPD, XWLPF and XWLPG seem to be pretty smooth to me. Im not gonna get into a whats the best rom discussion though, just need to read through and try some.
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AOSP based roms have sticky scrolling and GB roms have free flow scrolling
That might be the reason you find one slow and one faster
But honestly ics is not yet fully optimized as android 2.1 was slow but 2.2 and 2.3 brought HUGE difference
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If the scrolling smoothness of GB is what you're after may I suggest the excellent Fluxxi kernel found under Original Development. You can change the scrolling behavior to mimic that of GB. Read the faqs, flash it on top of your aosp rom of choice, and off you go
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Correct, Samsung-based is way smoother than AKxP-based Roms.
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1. What about Nexus ICS roms on SGS2?
2. Can I use custom launchers on samsung based roms to get the ICS look?
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1. What about Nexus ICS roms on SGS2?
2. Can I use custom launchers on samsung based roms to get the ICS look?
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neatrom with vertumus ics theme, apex launcher and siyah kernal is perfect for me
you need to remember the system requirements for ICS, its a lot more powerful, ive got an htc one x quadcore and that runs ics sooooo smoooooth.
Yes, gb is smoother, but gb is also less demanding and buggy, i do still prefer gb, but to balance it out, ICS is now at a point where its an acceptable daily driver with very little in the way of issues, its pretty smooth, its nice to look at and it works a lot better than gb on the internet tethering side which i use a lot, so, Ics would deff come first for me.
Forget ics, the big question is what will jellybean bring to the table, and will the s2 run it comfortably or not, i know were not far of seeing JB roll out to the first devices, i suspect the likes of the Note and the S2 and the S3 will be on the list for an update, from what ive read its due sometime end of the year.
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If the scrolling smoothness of GB is what you're after may I suggest the excellent Fluxxi kernel found under Original Development. You can change the scrolling behavior to mimic that of GB. Read the faqs, flash it on top of your aosp rom of choice, and off you go
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I flashed that kernel but cannot find the scrolling options mimic ability in xx tweaks
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I flashed that kernel but cannot find the scrolling options mimic ability in xx tweaks
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Within xxtweaker go to Display, scroll all the way to the bottom and you'll see the Touchscreen settings. For Touch Presets choose xxKernel Gingerbread.
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Within xxtweaker go to Display, scroll all the way to the bottom and you'll see the Touchscreen settings. For Touch Presets choose xxKernel Gingerbread.
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I did that. No noticable difference at all :S
Well I'm on CM9 and I feel it is more smoother than GB
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Hi,
I have got an solution for Slow menu scrolling.
Just edit your build.prop file and change following value...
ro.max.fling_velocity=4000
Change 4000 to 8000 and see the scrolling.
Enjoy
Hey guys I just got NFS: Most Wanted on the ATT Note. The gameplay and the controls are great but the game sort runs in slowmo. Anybody else getting different performance in other ROMS?
I'm running flapjaxx's AOSP ICS rom W/ GPU OC and CPU OC. I assume the slowness is due to the Note's large resolution and it's not quite as optimized as it could be for our phones. It is smooth but just terribly slow.
UPDATE
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE 2
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel and using the kernel from 'better stock' ROM above, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
UPDATE 3
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
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In conclusion:
Game is somehow determining the graphics through the kernel
SD Data downloaded is the same on every rom, don't have to download new SD Data.
Some roms perform better than others. I had a lot of luck with Jelly Bean roms on stock kernel, no need to overclock.
Figured I'd give you guys a ranking list from roms. Going from best to worst
1. Latest Jelly Bean Nightly 11/21 Stock Kernel - Great out of car and even faster in car - graphics medium
2. Flapjaxx's FJ Stock Rom Mod - OCGPU/CPU best performance (in car view only) - graphics high
3. Electro's Stock Rom - Stock Kernel with no OC Okay performance in both out of car view and in car view - graphics medium
im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
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That's jelly bean right? I had some problems running games and with graphical glitches in jelly bean until I turned off HW overlay and that stopped my problems.
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I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
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Wow, yeah running in that camera mode is a lot better. Hopefully the fix the issues completely. Thanks for the tip!
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Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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What do you mean?
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Ditto, switching to in-car view is definitely a lot smoother, has decent graphics but looks like the limit of S3 Adreno 225 chip has been reached, this (and other games of similar graphic quality) may be enough reason for me to upgrade to note 2 later. I also have slow down problem with NBA 2K13.
No real graphic glitch however, if you see missing textures it has to be wrong sd data, remember we are Snapdragon NOT Mali.
Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Just tried NFS Most Wanted on Liquid with KK Kernel and no luck. I even tried some build prop tweaks. It just feels too slow. Weird.
Going to try deleting it and redownloading the SD Data instead of restoring it from Titanium. Will report back with results.
EDIT: No go either. Still low frame rates. On a good note however, Liquid Jellybean Rom is probably the most stable of the Jellybeanies.
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE
Tried the OC Kernel on the stock ROM which lead it to being slow again! I'm not sure now what to think. Going to wipe and go back to the 'better stock' kernel not the 'pure stock'.
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Agreed. Right now there is no way to change graphics quality. Certainly would save me trouble. What I think is happening is that with some Roms and Kernels the game thinks we have higher hardware and cranks up the graphic quality thus slowing down the performance of the game.
What I found is every time I used an OC kernel of some type, the game slows. So it might be a kernel issue.
I just cant comprehend why despite having the same phone and same setup (i.e. rom, kernel etc) we get totally different results.
PS> Tomdg07 props to your state for pushing obama over the 270 he needed to win. Americans totally made up for giving dubya two terms.
I was testing some more Roms yesterday including Black IV and Electro's stock debloated Rom. Black IV had flapjaxx's kernel with the ability to OC and on the Electro was not OCable.
My results were the same. Something about flapjaxx's kernel or kernels with the ability to OC makes the game bump up in graphics thus making it slower. The game must be scanning the clockspeed or something or maybe it's something deeper than that. If I can I want to test out AOSP roms again to see if its the kernel or both the kernel + the rom.
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE: Those of you that are finding this page and reading this post. Look on the front page for what roms are the best for this game.
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Only form of a backup I have is in the nandroid backup I did before flashing cm10, I suppose I could dig it out of there somehow, but I'll give them a day or two to fix it first
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I have been running Sense on my Rezound since the day the phone launched. I've tried a couple different ROMs but have always gone back to the stock ROM and then removed all the bloat apps, and been very happy with the performance and stability on my phone.
Recently I updated to ICS and the most recent firmware (I was on GB this whole time), and battery life had been sucking pretty bad, so I decided to try a custom kernel. I flashed FunkyKernel 3.7, and, while it didn't do much to help battery life (even with underclocking and undervolting), it did GREATLY improve performance, especially gaming performance.
But, battery life was still MUCH worse than it had been on GB, so I decided to try CM 10.1 and see if a vanilla ROM would fare better. Flashed CM 10.1 and the ROM ran fine, but my graphics performance took a HUGE hit. I've been playing a lot of Sonic the Hedgehog lately (the Android port of the original), and on ICS sense it ran a buttery smooth 60 fps. On CM 10 I'm getting like 15-20 fps. Fired up Quadrant and saw the same results on the graphics tests there. I tried flashing FunkyBean 3.7, and playing with the clock speed and governor settings, but no dice. I enabled "force GPU on 2d" and no dice. I tried suggestions from the CM thread, no dice. Loaded up Shadowgun, and it also ran very poorly, compared to playing on the Sense ROM... very choppy
Has anyone else noticed this? I expected CM to FLY compared to Sense. The home screen and most apps were just fine, no choppiness, no lag that I could really see, only the games really showed any loss of performance. Did I do something wrong? Is it an issue with the drivers?
Cm 10.1 ROMs have a 50/50 gaming performance. Some games are smooth some are not
Now if you want CyanogenMod and great battery life and performance all around than you want a cm9 ROM. I only left cm9 for the new features if cm10.1
So if you use cm10.1 you may need to try different games. But cm9 is perfect but you give up cm10.1 features
Maybe in the future gaming will get fixed. Maybe when ion starts rolling out but who knows..
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Ok, at least now I know it's not just my phone or me screwing something up. thank you.
Yup, just try CM9.
There are any disadvantages to go back to ice cream sandwich 4.0 version? Now I have custom 4.4.2 and it is laggy no matter what.
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Lior84 said:
There are any disadvantages to go back to ice cream sandwich 4.0 version? Now I have custom 4.4.2 and it is laggy no matter what.
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Perhaps you could try one of the lollipop versions. They (both aosp and Omni) are really stable. If you however need 3G I would suggest the aosp rom.
There's no harm in trying them out. If you still feel that they lag to much you can always go back to stock.
I've been running the aosp rom on my wifi tab for some time now and it performs pretty great actually.
Pretty great you mean responsive? Because I use omni 4.4.2 and it's laggy no matter what I do.
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Pretty great you mean responsive? Because I use omni 4.4.2 and it's laggy no matter what I do.
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Yes, responsive. I did overclock it to 1400mhz but it's running stable. Only youtube is sometimes not the best when running 720p videos.
Not responsive :/
Is it smooth when using chrome, scrolling and doing other activities?
Tell me the best settings to get it fast with Lollipop.
P.S: i suggest the cm10.2 ROM with tabletUI if you want smooth scrolling and graphics.
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Is it smooth when using chrome, scrolling and doing other activities?
Tell me the best settings to get it fast with Lollipop.
P.S: i suggest the cm10.2 ROM with tabletUI if you want smooth scrolling and graphics.
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I can only speak from my experience with the aosp rom but scrolling in Chrome is smooth, I'm also using Nova Launcher and it is overclocked to 1400 mhz. Please don't expect miracles from this old device that samsung gave up on one ago. It runs 5.1.1 as smooth as it can. Also don't expect any hard core gaming and youtube will sometimes have issues. If all these things are deal-breakers then stay with whatever you have now. I wrote this from my own experience with my own tab. My father has the same one else only that one is bone stock. Touch wiz and everything with only a handful of apps installed. And yes it runs smooth and has less "issues" but it's running 4.0.4... I hope my explanation helps you make an informed decision.
Lior84 said:
There are any disadvantages to go back to ice cream sandwich 4.0 version? Now I have custom 4.4.2 and it is laggy no matter what.
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I was considering the same. I was on 4.4 omni, seemed laggy. Flashed stock ICS, which did seem snappy but still bloated. I thought I'd give AOSP 5.1 a go. Haven't over clocked anything and its definitely smoother than 4.4 omni. Very compact ROM, I installed gapps and that only set google play. Currently tested WiFi and GPS and they're working. Chrome is smooth and running flash smoothly. Auto detected resolution on YouTube.com is smooth. Haven't tried YouTube app as yet. I normally use tubemate anyway. This tab will always have trouble playing 1080p vid. Max I go now is 720. Tried and its working fine using mxplayer. 5.1 is still in social testing but the bugs are slowly being fixed. I was on ICS for a long time as it performed well. Having experienced the same with 4.4 and now upgrading to this rom , I'm happy with how smooth and responsive it is. Ticks the boxes.
My main concern is lags. I run omni 4.4 on with nova and the response is disappointing.
Most of the time, my son use it to watch movies, YouTube and some games but nothing really hard. When I take it to do some stuff on it, the lags just giving me crazy. I know that the main problem is lack of RAM but hey, with 4.0.4 it works OK.
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Going back does mean stability. The way I look at it though is you can only put so much into a mini, but it will always be a mini, not a Ferrari. Lollipop seems to work OK but its stretching the capability of this tab. For me with minor tweaks its going OK. A goto software always on all my droids is Greenify. It kills all the apps lingering in the background and stops them from opening again unless I open them. Try it out, you need all the ram you can get outta these older tabs. With the paid version it also kills system apps like google play services which is a big ram hog. I guess the only way you'll make your mind up is give ICS a go for a few days then try LP and see what you think.
A lollipop ROM might be smoother, if there would be the "Performance" menu in the settings app (like CM12).
If anyone has got any cyanogenmod ROM, i suggest these settings:
CPU governor:
• Intellidemand/ondemand: The CPU will increase the frequency when needed. It's default in many kernels. I really suggest that, because the device will be very stable (and smooth) and the battery life will be quite good :good: ;
• Performance: The CPU frequency will be set to max setting;
• Powersave: The CPU frequency will be set to minimum setting.
CPU min frequency: 150mhz (max. 200mhz)
CPU max frequency: overclock to 1400Mhz (do not overclock to 1.5 or 1.6ghz, the cpu will freeze and might be damaged)
I/O scheduler: deadline
zRam: 18%
Resources clean: on
KSM: on
PS: Enable "Set on boot" to each menu.
Sorry for the worst english ever.
I like decatf's 5.1 AOSP rom. He put a lot of work into creating a wrapper for hwcomposer which does a better job translating some of the newer rendering apis to work with the ancient ics binary Nvidia video driver blobs. That's why videos and animations are much smoother on his rom than the alternatives and why you don't get that weird "lightning bolt" rendering effect that's been around since pershoot's cyanogen jelly bean roms. He also implemented an audio driver wrapper as well in the same vein. And if you use his TWRP version, you can format /cache and /data to use f2fs, which definitely helps with disk I/O. He even ported over Multirom so you can dual-boot, but alas, it doesn't boot Ice Cream Sandwich roms at the moment.
It's the best modern rom thus far for the original Tab 10.1. Other than proper modern and native Nvidia drivers updated for Lollipop, the only thing really holding back the original 10.1 at this point is the Tegra 2's lack of NEON support. But there's nothing decatf can do about that.
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