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i had a sgs but just broke it with water dmg 2 months ago was great aside from battery life and gps and of course that horrible lag
tried many mods darky , doc , miui ... etc with different lagfix , kernel ext3 . ext4 .. etc but still the device lags alot , the best was miui glitch minimum lag but still the lag is there
i used nexus one with 2.3 and even HD2 with 2.2 and compared them to my phone ... loading games i load them like 1.5~2 x faster than both but while in menu , exiting apps , switching between apps and opining apps both devices do these things much faster and they dont lag at all while mine lags in everything and the same issue with my other friend sgs while sgs2 shows that its faster than both phones
now i want to buy a new phone and thinking about the sgs2 but i dont want to fall in the same mistake and end up with a laggy phone
so what do u think of sgs2 , does it lag much ? or it doesnt lag at all? does it have any lag issue ?
i want you to tell me honestly and excuse my poor English
PS : I 'm not comparing them to how IOS is , i know how fast is iOS but i'm not looking to buy any IPHONE cus i want an android
The word 'Lag' is a relative one. If you are coming from those devices then you won't notice any, but iPhone users have some trouble getting in, iOS is silky smooth, can't say the exact same for Android.
Remember, I am not a fan of either.
Regards.
Every piece of hardware in the world will have software lag on it occassionaly, at least. My experience is that this blows all over my HD2 with every ROM I had on there, and I tried a LOT of different builds on that.
Seriously, if you've had a HD2 running Android faster than your SGS2 then there's either some bad software involved or you've got a faulty device. The difference is more than obvious.
what i meant with lag that the phone get stuck and wont accept commands
i have been android user the for more than a year now , never bought any iphone
but compairing my sgs to hd2 and nexus 1 its the laggiest no mater what u do with it
nexus 1 and hd 2 were very smooth and dont lag when installing more than one up
my sgs lags while downloading a single up and nearly freeze while installing it , cant even brows contact smoothly while installing an app unlike hd2 and nexus 1
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Every piece of hardware in the world will have software lag on it occassionaly, at least. My experience is that this blows all over my HD2 with every ROM I had on there, and I tried a LOT of different builds on that.
Seriously, if you've had a HD2 running Android faster than your SGS2 then there's either some bad software involved or you've got a faulty device. The difference is more than obvious.
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talking about hd2 vs sgs 1 not 2
faDol said:
talking about hd2 vs sgs 1 not 2
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So you're actually saying that a HD2 running Android is faster than the SGS, but not faster than the SGS2?
Edit: Sorry, I just reread your first post. I see what you're saying now. So basically, you've not got the SGS2, but you've had the SGS and wonder if it's that much better? In that case, I'm out, since I've never even played with the original SGS. All I can say is the the SGS2 is faster and smoother than anything I ever had running on my HD2, and I generally stuck to Nexus builds because I prefer the original stock Android experience.
Coming from an iPhone, I would say the S2 is on par as far as homescreen "lag" goes. As for not accepting commands, the only time I have had this happen is if I lock the phone using setCPU . Other than that, the phone is FAST. I don't notice any lag at all, and most apps launch just about instantly.
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So you're actually saying that a HD2 running Android is faster than the SGS, but not faster than the SGS2?
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i dont have a sgs2 and thats why i'm asking about it before i buy it
and i did compare my sgs1 2.3 darky 10 ext4 wiped to my friends hd2 2.2 mine lags in menu and while installing but its faster when it come to loading games by 1.5~2x times
his never lags while doing anything just smooth
There are small micro jitters here and there with andriod OS, not a smooth as iOS.
Barely any lag in normal use in things like web surfing and using the interface.
But I get extreme lag using BBC Iplayer(Not the app) in HD or any other video source that is in HD excluding youtube. The video lags and the sound it out of sync. Pretty much unwatchable.
I know that these videos aren't optimised for use on a mobile but it would have been nice if they didn't lag.
Apart from that, all other videos are fine.
Silky smooth here, underclocked to 1000GHZ. Had a sgs and it drove me maaaaaaaad!
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Why does everyone think ios is extreme fast?
Even my sgs loads apps quiker than my iphone 4.
It does maybe sometimes not as fluid but always fast.
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I agree faster loading time but unfortunatly not fluid as ios.
I own a Sgs, Sgs2, desire, desire hd, nexus s and the smoother ar the desire hd but it is heavy as a rock and not resistant as the sgs2
No lag on mine ever since updated.to XXKG6. No problem on either Ninphetamine or lulz kernel.
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On mine there is no lag with the stock ROM. Once I installed Go Launcher, the swiping of the homescreen while was not laggy did have a lower framerate than the stock Touchwiz 4 launcher which was silky smooth.
Never had ANY lag at all since the SGS2 released. It really depends on the usage. But mine, no lag.
No lags on mine. Unrooted and stock rom 2.3.3.
Ah, well... actually to be honest yes, now that I think about it... sometimes I experience a very annoying lag of about 1 second at each and every character I type in the standard text box of forums, while posting. Each character appears about 1 second after having tapped it on the virtual keyboard.
Not sure if it happens with all the browsers, but it's very annoying indeed.
In addition, under the same circumstances when tapping on the text for editing, the "arrow" cursor appears shifted down of about 2-3 rows, with respect to where it actually is in the text.
Not sure if anybody has found a solution for this.
All of these newer phones, EVO 3d, sensation, sgs2 etc. will hardly ever have lag, in my case I have mine underclocked and still no lag, and never had lag.
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The question really boils down to does it lag, Yes or No.
There are animation lags from time to time on the S2, thats just how andriod works. Even if you stuff in a quadcore with 3Ghz per core nothings gonna change due to how the software works, probably even if the memory speed is increased 10 folds there will be lags.
No and yes nothings perfect. Ive experienced it before root. Why are you thinking of swtching to, a diffrent OS?
EarlZ said:
The question really boils down to does it lag, Yes or No.
There are animation lags from time to time on the S2, thats just how andriod works. Even if you stuff in a quadcore with 3Ghz per core nothings gonna change due to how the software works, probably even if the memory speed is increased 10 folds there will be lags.
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I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
With a custom kernel, most benchmarks are placing it right under or even with SGSII... not bad considering that phone comes stock with 1.5 GHz dual core.
1.2 you mean?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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I'm not running a OC kernel, but Faux's enhanced kernel @ 1 GHz. The main thing was getting rid of motoblur, and freeing up the ram. My benchmarks aren't as fast as the SGSII, but they aren't miles behind either.... not bad considering it's half a year older. I happen to like Nivida's technology too, but that's just a personal preference.
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ifalldownalot said:
here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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That's correct. Right now, though, the difference is negligible. So negligible that only benchmarks will show the real difference. Now, there's several games that will work only on the Tegra platform because the other CPUs don't have the same capabilities in the graphics department.... though it's not like everyone writes games based on these settings or even optimize other games for them.
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I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
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Ahem... Optimus 2X claims the first prize
Anyway I don't have an Atrix 4G, I have an Optimus 2x, same CPU. In my opinion the Tegra seems on-par with the Galaxy S2.
I'm not sure if there is a CM7 for the Atrix, but on my Optimus it is at least 2x faster than the stock rom, benchmarks reflect that too.
SunSpider is a benchmark which basically tests various web rendering tasks and gives a total score at the end
On MIUI / 1.5GHZ the Galaxy S2 scored 1600 or so. On 1GHZ, my Tegra 2 scores 1800! A lot of it appears to be down to software though, rather than raw performance, for reference, an iPhone 4 using Safari gets 4700, an Acer Liquid Metal Black which has some sort of 800MHZ snapdragon (I think?) CPU gets 3800.
The iPhone 3GS on iOS 4.1 got 16,000 or some stupid figure, well below 10,000 on iOS 5 though. In short, I guess what I'm saying is it's more down to your software setup than the hardware, obviously any phone is going to run like crap on a stock rom with 100,000 facebook and twitter apps.
Hello guys, i would like to know the truth, sgs2 vs ip4s in performances wise, ui, gpu and cpu.. Which is better? And which is closest to the future technology? My question is more to performance quality in every aspect as mentioned above.
Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone4S?
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You're asking this question in a bad place. Everyone here will simply say SGS2. Not just because it's better, but because we all love it . I'm pretty sure the SGS2 beats the iP4S in every aspect other than screen resolution. Not to mention that you are massively hindered by apple's OS on the iP4S...Unless you think SIRI is a good enough reason for you buy an entirely new phone of course...and I think I heard something about Carrier IQ being on most iPhones? I checked my SGS2 for it and it's clean... I'm using CRR v4.
Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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IP4s does not have a public jailbreak yet.
In term of hardware only!
Apple iPhone 4S
cpu Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX543MP2
Samsung Galaxy S II
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
SGS2 beat 4S in cpu (same cpu but SGS2 got higher clock)
but
4S beat SGS2 in GPU cause PowerVR SGX543MP2 is more powerful than Mali-400MP
BTW,I'm SGS2 user
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In term of hardware only!
Apple iPhone 4S
cpu Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX543MP2
Samsung Galaxy S II
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
SGS2 beat 4S in cpu (same cpu but SGS2 got higher clock)
but
4S beat SGS2 in GPU cause PowerVR SGX543MP2 is more powerful than Mali-400MP
BTW,I'm SGS2 user
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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do you actually need those people opinion? i dont care if other phone outperformance my phone, as long as i love it. i love android especially so any phone is ok as long as its not iphone. give me a quad core iphone and i'll sell it to buy a desktop pc! even dual core(4S) is more than enough actually.
KamalKhattak said:
Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Doesn't matter, it still outperforms the GSII in most benchmarks. But, then again the GSII is 6 months old, and doesn't have ICS yet. I suspect that the GSII should be able to beat the iPhone 4S in most benchmarks, especially browser (Sunspider) tests. The iPhone 4S definitely has the most powerful GPU out of any mobile smartphone right now
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Sorry for my mistake. I forgot that they down clock it for battery life in iPhone but not in iPad.
Im reading all your opinions guys, dont get me wrong, im sgs2 user, i just wanna ask you guys for opinion, which i dont know about.
Thank you.
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Sorry for my mistake. I forgot that they down clock it for battery life in iPhone but not in iPad.
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So thats mean ip4s running at 800mhz.. On iOS5?
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Doesn't matter, it still outperforms the GSII in most benchmarks. But, then again the GSII is 6 months old, and doesn't have ICS yet. I suspect that the GSII should be able to beat the iPhone 4S in most benchmarks, especially browser (Sunspider) tests. The iPhone 4S definitely has the most powerful GPU out of any mobile smartphone right now
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A benchmark like Sunspider tests not only the phone's CPU but also the browser. So Apple's highly optimised Safari can still beat the SGS2 even with a slower CPU. You are benchmarking both the CPU and the browser together, and in the SGS2 the browser is not the speediest one out there. So eventhough it has a quicker CPU, the browser is holding it back in Sunspider.
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So thats mean ip4s running at 800mhz.. On iOS5?
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Yeah only because of ios optimization its fast. Other than that its nothing compared to sgs2.
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Yeah only because of ios optimization its fast. Other than that its nothing compared to sgs2.
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Lol, thanks, your answer made laugh.
"other than that its 'nothing' compared to sgs2"
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A benchmark like Sunspider tests not only the phone's CPU but also the browser. So Apple's highly optimised Safari can still beat the SGS2 even with a slower CPU. You are benchmarking both the CPU and the browser together, and in the SGS2 the browser is not the speediest one out there. So eventhough it has a quicker CPU, the browser is holding it back in Sunspider.
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Seems like you familiar with iphone, is there any other thing that (optimized or standard) that could beat sgs2?
Please describe, i would like to know.
Thanks for your response.
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http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-apple-a5-and-vs-samsung-exynos-4210/
All the information about the iphone4s A5 GPU being more powerful is hogwash. It's a dual core based GPU, while the GPU can support up to 4 cores and is at a higher clock speed.
From a hardware perspective the Galaxy S 2 is superior in every way.
fulaman said:
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-apple-a5-and-vs-samsung-exynos-4210/
All the information about the iphone4s A5 GPU being more powerful is hogwash. It's a dual core based GPU, while the GPU can support up to 4 cores and is at a higher clock speed.
From a hardware perspective the Galaxy S 2 is superior in every way.
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I'm sure I can find some random website to validate whatever view you want it to. I chose to look at a site like anandtech that looks purely at the facts. The facts are pretty straightforward, the GPU in the A5 chip used by the i4S is currently the best available on any smartphone. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6
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Seems like you familiar with iphone, is there any other thing that (optimized or standard) that could beat sgs2?
Please describe, i would like to know.
Thanks for your response.
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The apps for iOS are much better optimized for the iPhone than Android. iOS currently has no fragmentation to worry about so an app that works on the 3GS should work fine on the i4S. An app that works on my SGS2 probably won't work on my Sensation due to different screen resolutions. IMO apps for iOS are in general more polished when used with iOS.
The biggest difference between the SGS2 and i4S are AOSP and screen size. 4.3 inches looks gigantic compared to 3.5. Open source is always better than closed source IMO.
Both devices are excellent, just depends what you intend on using the device for.
Hmm i4s vs SGS2, i owned both, got an iphone FIRST because i know everyone loves it and everyone has it, so i went with the majority and i must say, woow thse iphone ppl are missing out on simplicity of use of andoid. I ****ING HATE the iphone for the following:
1. Bought a locked phone, had to buy a special sim to activate it. Y MAKE LIFE HARDER??
2. Pain in the ass to unlock it, used gevey. Y?
3. Cant use bluetooth to send data
4. Cant put a custom ringtone in a few easy steps
5. I dont need my phone to tell me what to do. I say: i want a new song. He says: stfu and connect me to itunes because there is NO other way you can do it.
6. Want to sync multiple folders w/pics, you cant. All pics have to be in the same destination.
7. Tiny screen, hate it.
8. Took a picture. Your options are: delete, and send. What happened to: details, crop, rotate left/right.
9. Connect to itunes only at home?? Wtf. (Or did they make it so you can connect to 5 PCs/MACs per phone now?) Even though, you could be at the 6th computer, and then what? You are screwed.
Conclusion: VERY limited capabilities. Maybe there are walk arounds to the things that piss me off, but when i buy a 600$ phone, i dont wanna be sitting for hours and googleing how to do this, and do that. Iphone has icloud imessage siri and all that ****, but honestly, id rather have open sourse over ALL OF THAT ANY DAY!!!
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I'm sure I can find some random website to validate whatever view you want it to. I chose to look at a site like anandtech that looks purely at the facts. The facts are pretty straightforward, the GPU in the A5 chip used by the i4S is currently the best available on any smartphone. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6
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Hmm great find, I'm surprised that the GPU on the 4S would be superior given the fact that Samsung manufactured the A5 chip. One would think that the A5 chip being a month older would be slightly inferior or equal.
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Deniska11 said:
Hmm i4s vs SGS2, i owned both, got an iphone FIRST because i know everyone loves it and everyone has it, so i went with the majority and i must say, woow thse iphone ppl are missing out on simplicity of use of andoid. I ****ING HATE the iphone for the following:
1. Bought a locked phone, had to buy a special sim to activate it. Y MAKE LIFE HARDER??
2. Pain in the ass to unlock it, used gevey. Y?
3. Cant use bluetooth to send data
4. Cant put a custom ringtone in a few easy steps
5. I dont need my phone to tell me what to do. I say: i want a new song. He says: stfu and connect me to itunes because there is NO other way you can do it.
6. Want to sync multiple folders w/pics, you cant. All pics have to be in the same destination.
7. Tiny screen, hate it.
8. Took a picture. Your options are: delete, and send. What happened to: details, crop, rotate left/right.
9. Connect to itunes only at home?? Wtf. (Or did they make it so you can connect to 5 PCs/MACs per phone now?) Even though, you could be at the 6th computer, and then what? You are screwed.
Conclusion: VERY limited capabilities. Maybe there are walk arounds to the things that piss me off, but when i buy a 600$ phone, i dont wanna be sitting for hours and googleing how to do this, and do that. Iphone has icloud imessage siri and all that ****, but honestly, id rather have open sourse over ALL OF THAT ANY DAY!!!
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I agree with this assessment, I played around with an iPhone and was surprised with its sending options when using SMS/MMS, Android has far more options. I don't have a GSII, I have the original Galaxy S, so I know that back when one did a side by side comparison with iphone 4 and Galaxy S, the Galaxy S beat it in every department except screen resolution. I thought that the trend would continue.
neobirdrio said:
Hello guys, i would like to know the truth, sgs2 vs ip4s in performances wise, ui, gpu and cpu.. Which is better? And which is closest to the future technology? My question is more to performance quality in every aspect as mentioned above.
Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone4S?
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Hi there.
Today I will swap my SGS2 for an IP4S. Why? Here I say, in order of importance:
1) iPhone camera is better.
2) better or equivalent benchmarks altough SGS2 has better hardware specs (this link elucidates everything http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6)
3) 4.3 screen is too big for my hands and the iPhone screen has better resolution+pixel density.
4) better OS design (I don't care about the flexibility of ROM customisation, and the stock aspect from Samsung really sucks, even with another launcher and also other roms)
5) The aluminium/glass handles better the processor overheat than the plastic body from our SGS2.
I am aware the iPhone has also negative aspects compared to SGS2, but the most important aspects (for me) are covered above.
An example would be the new GTA 3 released yesterday.
The game runs perfect on my iPod touch 4G.
While it lags on the HTC Desire HD.
You could say the phone should have more apps running in the background. But the phone had 400MB free RAM while the iPod had 120MB free RAM before running the game.
Also both devices have 1GHz CPU (and I think the iPod even has it underclocked to 800MHz).
Does the iPod have better GPU then?
This is not the only example, I have seen so many games that run well on ipod 2G (very old model) while the same game lags on Android with similar specs.
It's a question of the API. There is just one iPhone hardware and OS, and there is a vast amount of devices with android that have various hardware. So of course an apple port will run well where it has just one hw\sw setting that the devs focused on than "let's program it for some powerful android devices" ;-)
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Mmm could be it wasn't optimised as well for the adreno family as it was for the power vr. Could also be because the ios has better code for gaming (turns off background processes or something) Lots of could bes, but that's just how it is until we see the ios source code.
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Yeah, it's definitely harder to optimise a game for such a great amount of phones with different hardware. And as far as I know GTA3 for Android was originally announced to support only dual-core devices, so in fact it shouldn't even run on Desire HD...
Because Android sucks..
My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
XER0123 said:
Because Android sucks..
My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
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Haha, you have a Galaxy S...what do you expect? Buy an android phone that costs as much as an Iphone and see if you still have complaints.
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My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
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For me its the otherway around.
hmmm i that something is with your phone lol xD
I have the HTC 3VO and i have never once experienced lag, and I have had the game since it came out.! I think my CPU is like 1-1.5 GHz
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Because Android sucks..
My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
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Iunno what you using or doing on it but my captivate is just as smooth if not close to the fluidity on my sgs 2.
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GTA III seems to run a little smoother on my Motorola Photon 4G than my iPad 1 or iPod Touch 4.
Because Android is a shameless iOS ripoff, and the original is always better
I've been annoyed with the same issue while running certain apps. Like the above replies stated, it's because the differences in hardware and such, but it's still very annoying.
alex2792 said:
Because Android is a shameless iOS ripoff, and the original is always better
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Think you have that backwards lol
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Think you have that backwards lol
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Please don't feed the trolls. And if he's not a troll, he's in the wrong part of the internet.
Hardware is not so much the issues as the software is. If you're running an oxygen port on desire hd with no OC and a good kernel you can see the difference in the performance. I get no lag whatsoever but occasionally and if you go on youtube and watch some videos of gta 3 being played on iphone 4, you can see that they also get lags. It is just that their OS is well refined when most phones here are half the price of iphone and don't get a good OS by the company.
I have Samsung drivers
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CI500_VZW_EH03_GB_CM
and mutliple releases of CM10.1
I followed instructions exactly how [GUIDE] Installing a Rom/CWM recovery/Root or going back to Stock say to do.
I always end up with a bootloop after flashing. The instructions are flawed. Or, one or more files are corrupted.
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I have Samsung drivers
atlas 2.2
odin 1.3
gbbootloaders
cmw4 fixed for cm7
CI500_VZW_EH03_GB_CM
and mutliple releases of CM10.1
I followed instructions exactly how [GUIDE] Installing a Rom/CWM recovery/Root or going back to Stock say to do.
I always end up with a bootloop after flashing. The instructions are flawed. Or, one or more files are corrupted.
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Did you look at my post which further explains the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53235945
Have you installed cm10.1 multiple times?
Some times it doesn't always set thing up in one flash
hhp_211 said:
Did you look at my post which further explains the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53235945
Have you installed cm10.1 multiple times?
Some times it doesn't always set thing up in one flash
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Yeah I read a post saying to do what you just described with success.
However, this phone is really poor. I have tried GB, ICS, JB and all of them I get similar performance just different features.
The phone can't handle two apps at once regardless of the rom.
I was traveling to a different city to get something on Craigs. It constantly would shutdown my Maps and Navigation when I wanted to read a Kik message.
If I have Kik open and want to read a txt msg, it takes like 10 seconds after clicking the txt msg icon to show the txt.
Is there an app or method that everyone uses on this phone that I don't know about to get this phone to run speedy? Or, is it just so outdated it can't run modern versions of apps?
I just want navigation, txt, kik, and a light browser like dolphin.
Can a Fascinate handle all that and be snappy and quick??
In the mean time, I am switching over to my S3, though I don't like how it's so big I can't reach all the screen with one hand.
fewert said:
Yeah I read a post saying to do what you just described with success.
However, this phone is really poor. I have tried GB, ICS, JB and all of them I get similar performance just different features.
The phone can't handle two apps at once regardless of the rom.
I was traveling to a different city to get something on Craigs. It constantly would shutdown my Maps and Navigation when I wanted to read a Kik message.
If I have Kik open and want to read a txt msg, it takes like 10 seconds after clicking the txt msg icon to show the txt.
Is there an app or method that everyone uses on this phone that I don't know about to get this phone to run speedy? Or, is it just so outdated it can't run modern versions of apps?
I just want navigation, txt, kik, and a light browser like dolphin.
Can a Fascinate handle all that and be snappy and quick??
In the mean time, I am switching over to my S3, though I don't like how it's so big I can't reach all the screen with one hand.
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i think you should understand that this phone has a single-core CPU. running at 1GHz. this phone is almost 4 years old. it's amazing this thing can even run things like Kitkat at all, let alone with the relative finesse the most recent unjust build provides.
it took me a while to realize that apps these days are not optimized for single-core CPUs, it took upgrading to a gs4 to realize that. the fascinate is an admittedly, well, slow phone. or its not meant for multitasking, definitely.
the s3 runs circles around this phone. almost anything does. i've never really found anything that allows for the multitasking and insane speed that i get out of my s4, the closest i've ever gotten was cm7, but that even in its stable release had tons of SOD problems (sleep of death, phone locks and never comes back on).
part of the issue is that the fascinate has 512MB of RAM. back in 2010, it was adequate. not even good, just.. alright. these days the norm is 2GB. a phone with 1GB of RAM is considered outdated. despite google's efforts to optimize kitkat for 512MB devices, this phone's GPU shares RAM with the system, and depending on the configuration, usually 100+ MB is reserved for the GPU, leaving typically about 360-384MB of RAM. You can get more (the kitkat ROM i've mentioned allows 416MB of RAM to the system) but things will start breaking, particularly HD video recording and torch, among other things
skepticmisfit said:
i think you should understand that this phone has a single-core CPU. running at 1GHz. this phone is almost 4 years old. it's amazing this thing can even run things like Kitkat at all, let alone with the relative finesse the most recent unjust build provides.
it took me a while to realize that apps these days are not optimized for single-core CPUs, it took upgrading to a gs4 to realize that. the fascinate is an admittedly, well, slow phone. or its not meant for multitasking, definitely.
the s3 runs circles around this phone. almost anything does. i've never really found anything that allows for the multitasking and insane speed that i get out of my s4, the closest i've ever gotten was cm7, but that even in its stable release had tons of SOD problems (sleep of death, phone locks and never comes back on).
part of the issue is that the fascinate has 512MB of RAM. back in 2010, it was adequate. not even good, just.. alright. these days the norm is 2GB. a phone with 1GB of RAM is considered outdated. despite google's efforts to optimize kitkat for 512MB devices, this phone's GPU shares RAM with the system, and depending on the configuration, usually 100+ MB is reserved for the GPU, leaving typically about 360-384MB of RAM. You can get more (the kitkat ROM i've mentioned allows 416MB of RAM to the system) but things will start breaking, particularly HD video recording and torch, among other things
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Lol my phone e400 is super multitasker
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fewert said:
Yeah I read a post saying to do what you just described with success.
However, this phone is really poor. I have tried GB, ICS, JB and all of them I get similar performance just different features.
The phone can't handle two apps at once regardless of the rom.
I was traveling to a different city to get something on Craigs. It constantly would shutdown my Maps and Navigation when I wanted to read a Kik message.
If I have Kik open and want to read a txt msg, it takes like 10 seconds after clicking the txt msg icon to show the txt.
Is there an app or method that everyone uses on this phone that I don't know about to get this phone to run speedy? Or, is it just so outdated it can't run modern versions of apps?
I just want navigation, txt, kik, and a light browser like dolphin.
Can a Fascinate handle all that and be snappy and quick??
In the mean time, I am switching over to my S3, though I don't like how it's so big I can't reach all the screen with one hand.
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skepticmisfit said:
i think you should understand that this phone has a single-core CPU. running at 1GHz. this phone is almost 4 years old. it's amazing this thing can even run things like Kitkat at all, let alone with the relative finesse the most recent unjust build provides.
it took me a while to realize that apps these days are not optimized for single-core CPUs, it took upgrading to a gs4 to realize that. the fascinate is an admittedly, well, slow phone. or its not meant for multitasking, definitely.
the s3 runs circles around this phone. almost anything does. i've never really found anything that allows for the multitasking and insane speed that i get out of my s4, the closest i've ever gotten was cm7, but that even in its stable release had tons of SOD problems (sleep of death, phone locks and never comes back on).
part of the issue is that the fascinate has 512MB of RAM. back in 2010, it was adequate. not even good, just.. alright. these days the norm is 2GB. a phone with 1GB of RAM is considered outdated. despite google's efforts to optimize kitkat for 512MB devices, this phone's GPU shares RAM with the system, and depending on the configuration, usually 100+ MB is reserved for the GPU, leaving typically about 360-384MB of RAM. You can get more (the kitkat ROM i've mentioned allows 416MB of RAM to the system) but things will start breaking, particularly HD video recording and torch, among other things
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I have not used the kik so I can't really say about it's performance,,, I have seen on the 4.4 kitkat rom from Unjust when I have used google maps navigation it was a huge battery sucker, no matter if I only put it on device [gps] only. I could barely even use it and on a charge it was still draining it faster than it could take it.
i did not have this on jellybean roms
I have not had the the problems you describe '10 seconds to open an app'.
Hangouts used to be slow opening initially but their latest update has made it much faster
I don't think it's multitasking is bad for what it is as a phone given it's specs,,, but everyone use a phone differently,,,
so I mostly agree with the overall jest of what skept is saying,,, it is ultimately limited by the 512MB ram available to use.
for GB and JB roms you can also look at the V6 Supercharger thread, it does help with multi-tasking, it can be a bit hard to understand how to implement it but once you figure that out it goes decent, boot up and time till initial use are much longer than normal, but you just have to plan your reboots for when plenty of time allows
i think jellybean roms are very good performers and given the face that you can use a different kernel that allows for overclocking up 1400 Mhz if desired,,, it's a give and take though,,,, over 1200Mhz and battery life goes south very quickly. [luckily the battery doesn't take long to charge, usually 1 hour,,, and even 5 minutes here or 10 minutes there will really help it last through the day]
Most of the earlier jellybean [4.1.x] versions seemed to give better battery life from what I remember than the newer [4.2.x] ones
and there are a lot of different ones to choose from to suite your style or needs from basic cm to full customization.
most of them were stable enough to be daily drivers,,, the big thing is you will just have to read up on a particular one or just break down and try some to see if they fit what you want.
With all that said though the fascinate will never perform like an S3, S4, Nexus, Nexus 4, Moto G, Moto X
I would consider checking out the Motorola Moto G, it's physical dimensions are nearly she same as the fassy but a hugely better phone, screen size, etc and depending on your phone carrier needs it can be had for as little as $65 bucks...
Well lg optimus l3 is very powerful and performant in fact of multitasking if you're a dev or not a complete noob.My phone can go until 1.2 ghz without probs and its factory clock speed was 800 mhz.Most apps aren't optimized for multi-cores and l3 is single core.384 mb of ram are enough on stock and 301 mb aren't enough on cm.But my kernels got swap.
Battery is very good:10days in stand by,2 days in normal use.
Antutu sucks but i don't believe in it.
So its up to the devs,we're good devs and there are more than 100000 l3s in the world.Now we're getting dualboot.Its all about devs,its all about devs.
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