Verizon is really trying to screw their customers over. http://www.androidauthority.com/ics-firmware-droid-razr-razr-maxx-droid-4-comes-root-checker-110802/
No different than the galaxy s 3 flash counter. Only they can reset it and we cannot as of yet.
there is already a thread about it and its not completely true http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
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I have a friend who runs a tmobile store. He buys used phones when people upgrade. He has a Samsung Exhibit II and the guy who sold it to him didnt disable the pattern unlock so now he is stuck with it. I have gone into recovery on my Evo and some other phones to do a factory reset but im unfamiliar with the Samsung. Is there a way to factory reset or is it done through Odin?
I currently have a VZW Galaxy S4 on 4.3 with a locked bootloader and I'm literally sick of not being able to flash anything without some stupid bootloader related error. I'm curious if it's worth looking for one with 4.1.2 whether it be T-Mobile or some carrier I've never heard of before and buying it and selling my current one so I can do what I want to with my phone.
Worth it or a waste of time/money?
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I currently have a VZW Galaxy S4 on 4.3 with a locked bootloader and I'm literally sick of not being able to flash anything without some stupid bootloader related error. I'm curious if it's worth looking for one with 4.1.2 whether it be T-Mobile or some carrier I've never heard of before and buying it and selling my current one so I can do what I want to with my phone.
Worth it or a waste of time/money?
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The money part is up to you whether it's worth it or not. The only thing I can tell you is make sure the phone you're getting is not on new KitKat. I know someone that has a tmobile s4. Those can be rooted with recovery regardless of what Android version, however if its on KitKat and you try to flash anything it trips to Knox counter and voids warranty and there is no going back. It also prevents you from ever receiving OTA's again making resale value garbage. Consider another brand altogether. Look here: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
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The money part is up to you whether it's worth it or not. The only thing I can tell you is make sure the phone you're getting is not on new KitKat. I know someone that has a tmobile s4. Those can be rooted with recovery regardless of what Android version, however if its on KitKat and you try to flash anything it trips to Knox counter and voids warranty and there is no going back. It also prevents you from ever receiving OTA's again making resale value garbage. Consider another brand altogether.
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Well I'm not really concerned about the Knox counter or OTA stuff as if i could use a custom recovery i could just flash the stuff without the need of waiting 3 more months for some crappy carrier to release it with their bloatware filled bulls***. & on other brand topic I would just buy a Nexus 5 if not for it's incompatibility with Verizon but thats really the only other phone I can think of that really intrigues me besides the S4.
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Well I'm not really concerned about the Knox counter or OTA stuff as if i could use a custom recovery i could just flash the stuff without the need of waiting 3 more months for some crappy carrier to release it with their bloatware filled bulls***. & on other brand topic I would just buy a Nexus 5 if not for it's incompatibility with Verizon but thats really the only other phone I can think of that really intrigues me besides the S4.
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There are many reports circulating that the Nexus 6 will be on Verizon. So try to hold out.
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I am wondering if there is any bootstrap that works for this model of the S4? I have seen AT&T and Verizon threads with bootstrap and none about this device. I am interested in bootstrap because it doesnt trigger the knox counter when installing custom roms.
If anyone knows whether it would work on this device or not i would like to hear.
Thanks!
We have an unlocked bootloader, and can flash roms and kernels (including AOSP) with custom recovery. Bootstrap is a waste of time unless your bootloader is locked. Who cares if Knox is tripped ;] carriers don't even care in my experience lol
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I am wondering if there is any bootstrap that works for this model of the S4? I have seen AT&T and Verizon threads with bootstrap and none about this device. I am interested in bootstrap because it doesnt trigger the knox counter when installing custom roms.
If anyone knows whether it would work on this device or not i would like to hear.
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Not at all clear what you are asking. Did you really mean S4 or is that a typo? And by bootstrap.. you mean Safestrap? Much of the interest in Safestrap is because the ATT and Verizon bootloaders are locked. So that was the only way to work with them for some time.
The S5 TMobile bootloader is not locked so Safestrap isn't so compelling an approach, although you might want to look at it for the ability to "multiboot" multiple ROM configurations. Or perhaps because it will preserve Knox in certain, specific configurations. But even then, as the poster above mentioned, less and less people care about Knox since warranty claims are usually done through the carrier, rather than directly with Samsung. And most carriers don't care about Knox. As well, Samsung ostensibly can't invalidate a warranty over Knox in the EU due to stronger consumer protection legislation.
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Not at all clear what you are asking. Did you really mean S4 or is that a typo? And by bootstrap.. you mean Safestrap? Much of the interest in Safestrap is because the ATT and Verizon bootloaders are locked. So that was the only way to work with them for some time.
The S5 TMobile bootloader is not locked so Safestrap isn't so compelling an approach, although you might want to look at it for the ability to "multiboot" multiple ROM configurations. Or perhaps because it will preserve Knox in certain, specific configurations. But even then, as the poster above mentioned, less and less people care about Knox since warranty claims are usually done through the carrier, rather than directly with Samsung. And most carriers don't care about Knox. As well, Samsung ostensibly can't invalidate a warranty over Knox in the EU due to stronger consumer protection legislation.
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I meant S5 yeah. But my buddy had an issue with his speaker failing and the first thing the carrier did was check the status and saw knox was tripped and refused to help him even though at the time he was running a non rooted stock ROM.
I havent had any issues in the past where I needed to use warranty but trying to prevent tripping it if I can. At the moment ive installed safestrap and it seems to work but I havent attempted flashing anything yet as im waiting for my ext SD and for safestrap to support multi boot, but im guessing since it goes into the safestrap recovery it probably works too.
My device is really the Canadian model but from my knowledge and history with the S3 and S4, if it works on TMO it works on mine too
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My device is really the Canadian model but from my knowledge and history with the S3 and S4, if it works on TMO it works on mine too
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Samsung will try to disavow a warranty over Knox. Most people do not deal directly with Samsung though, so what really matters in warranty claim is whether the carrier cares about Knox. Many people including at least one TMobile employee have posted that TMobile doesn't care.. making Knox almost an non-issue on TMobile.
It turns out that you're with one of the Canadian carriers, so you could search the forums or perhaps already know how your carrier handles Knox warranty claims.
Safestrap is an interesting approach, well supported by Hashcode. It has some advantages and some limitations as well. Given that a lot of us don't care about Knox and that TMobile's bootloader is unlocked, a lot of people are going to prefer a conventional custom ROM.
I'd like safestrap just because I don't have T-Mobile as my carrier I use it on at&t. Thus I cannot do a warranty claim through my carrier
A friend of mine told me about this site. I am trying to figure out how to unlock/ jail break my Verizon galaxy note 3.. can someone please help..
Yes. Read the Note 3 Android Developement forum. Lots of good info there.
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I have been.. I can't find it
Depends on the version you're trying to root/ jail break. If your version is 4.4.2, yes you can. If it is 4.4.4 or 5.0, no. This forum should have info based on rooting your phone, like as said before.
There is no unlock for any retail note 3 there is no sim lock to begin with on the vzw note 3. If you are on a firmware past nc4 4.4.2 you have no root or hope of root coming. There is no way to get unlocked and there seems to be no interest in unlocking the 3 so unless the 4 or 5 gets cracked and it works on the 3 or by some stroke of good will samsung does it we are all boned.
Is anyone actively trying to work for a root for 5.0? The Note 3 has been and still is a great phone. I have been rooted since I owned it....but due to a snafu that I could not recover from I had to load the stock 5.0 from verizon. I am almost to the point of getting another phone just so I can have root back. Being a regular user sucks when the beauty of root is known!! Any advice for a next phone that is big like the note 3 and easily rooted with verizon?
Does anyone still have bad signal reception issues after updates? my phone had it bizarre, Vrz replaced with refurbished unit but it came with 4.4.4 so all hopes lost, but signal issue is still there and annoying
I was out of town and ignoring the notification to install an att update. I was in and out of wifi at my hotel and I think it downloaded about 9% of the official update. When I got home and under reliable wifi I decided to do the update. When I came back to the phone about 10 min later i had a blue screen with the message System software not authorized by AT&T has been found on your phone please take to nearest AT&T store. I called att they conference called with Samsung and sent me to ubreakifix to look at it. They were able to get in download mode and the knox wasn't tripped but it only said Official Samsung in one of the 2 places the tech said it should (i think the binary didn't say official Samsung but I only saw it briefly). I have only had this phone for 2 months. It is NOT rooted. It wouldn't go into recovery Any thoughts?
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I was out of town and ignoring the notification to install an att update. I was in and out of wifi at my hotel and I think it downloaded about 9% of the official update. When I got home and under reliable wifi I decided to do the update. When I came back to the phone about 10 min later i had a blue screen with the message System software not authorized by AT&T has been found on your phone please take to nearest AT&T store. I called att they conference called with Samsung and sent me to ubreakifix to look at it. They were able to get in download mode and the knox wasn't tripped but it only said Official Samsung in one of the 2 places the tech said it should (i think the binary didn't say official Samsung but I only saw it briefly). I have only had this phone for 2 months. It is NOT rooted. It wouldn't go into recovery Any thoughts?
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Man, talk about a bad situation. I would try itekimei .com. Buy the unlocked package for $30. He will be able to flash your factory firmware back to the way it was. Granted you can get into recovery and download modes.
I wouldn't turn to At&T for that type of help. Carriers are usually pretty stupid when it comes to stuff like this. At least with my experience with t-mobile for 17 years.
* I should add I recently used itekimei .com for two galaxy s9+'s with success for CDMA carriers, I.E. verizon. But part of that process is flashing back your original firmware, which should be no problem for AT&T and t-mobile. They have access to the actual Samsung tools, they can do just about anything when it comes to flashing firmware. Which in your case, sounds like your best alternative.
I took it to the ubreakifix (authorized Samsung repair) They said they were going to call Samsung, if they gave them the go ahead it will be fixed under warranty, which it should in the first place, or they'd charge me $40 to flash back to factory.
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I took it to the ubreakifix (authorized Samsung repair) They said they were going to call Samsung, if they gave them the go ahead it will be fixed under warranty, which it should in the first place, or they'd charge me $40 to flash back to factory.
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And Itekimei will do it for $30, plus it will be carrier unlocked if you ever needed that. But he does the same process in the end, flashes back your factory firmware. So six one, half a dozen another. But with samsung, I don't think they will leave you carrier unlocked after they reflash your firmware.
But your right, it should be fixed under warranty. If that's an option for you that you want to take, then take it. I don't know how long they will take, the guy at itek takes about an hour to do the process. They have access to the same tools samsung does to flash phones, at least they claimed to me.
Thanks for the info, that will definitely be plan B.
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Thanks for the info, that will definitely be plan B.
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No problem, but yeah that sounds like your solution anyways, is to have someone flash back your firmware. That will solve your problem.
ubreakifix couldn't fix it, they called samsung and they claim I rooted it. I DID NOT ROOT. used the help of iTekIMEI and he tried to flash stock firmware, he was unable to get it going too. Called Samsung directly they want me to send it in for analysis, sounds like they don't believe me either about not rooting.