Has anyone notice that even after you do a complete full wipe( Rom and system) of everything that there are still some files and folders remaining under sdcard partition(internal not external card). The only away to clean them out is to manually delete them. Anyone notice this?
Solution: Use 4EXT Recovery to clean all partitions including cache and dalvic-cache.
SecUpwN said:
Solution: Use 4EXT Recovery to clean all partitions including cache and dalvic-cache.
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Is there no other way?
pimpol10 said:
Has anyone notice that even after you do a complete full wipe( Rom and system) of everything that there are still some files and folders remaining under sdcard partition(internal not external card). The only away to clean them out is to manually delete them. Anyone notice this?
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Um.... If you don't wipe the SD cards they dont get wiped. This is normal.
This is how its intended
SecUpwN said:
Solution: Use 4EXT Recovery to clean all partitions including cache and dalvic-cache.
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Nah, TWRP is fine.
We don't even have 4EXT Recovery for this phone yet, so that argument is irrelevant.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
metalfan78 said:
We don't even have 4EXT Recovery for this phone yet, so that argument is irrelevant.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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We have a LOT of people on here who have no clue about anything lol
Of course it does. It's a computer. It doesn't just start wiping and say, "Nah, I'm gonna skip that and move on." The commands given to the system to wipe are absolute and once the command runs successfully the partition is formatted clean.
Now imagine asking this same question but in a non tech forum?
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That's normal for the recovery so it doesn't delete stuff like your backups and pictures. If you need to do a full factory reset you can select it from the bootloader and it will wipe all your data, including internal storage.
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earlier i was getting ready to try out a new ROM on my TB and was in clockwork wiping everything & got to the part where you format /system and i accidentally told it to format /sdcard
at that point everything was wiped(including sd card) so i turned off the phone as i was not at home at the time.
is clockwork still in tact on the phone itself and can i just copy a ROM to the sd card & pop it back in the phone and go from there or is there something more i have to do?
thanks
Yup. You are fine. Pop a ROM on there and flash.
voxigenboy said:
earlier i was getting ready to try out a new ROM on my TB and was in clockwork wiping everything & got to the part where you format /system and i accidentally told it to format /sdcard
at that point everything was wiped(including sd card) so i turned off the phone as i was not at home at the time.
is clockwork still in tact on the phone itself and can i just copy a ROM to the sd card & pop it back in the phone and go from there or is there something more i have to do?
thanks
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you know you can download roms directly from the forums from the browser right? you dont have to wait til you get home. just download it, boot into recovery and flash it
TDubKong said:
you know you can download roms directly from the forums from the browser right? you dont have to wait til you get home. just download it, boot into recovery and flash it
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He wiped the phone, so there's currently no ROM on it.... He also wiped the SD card, so if he by chance had a ROM copied to it that he could flash, well, he doesn't anymore....
hallstevenson said:
He wiped the phone, so there's currently no ROM on it.... He also wiped the SD card, so if he by chance had a ROM copied to it that he could flash, well, he doesn't anymore....
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When you wipe to factory data reset, wipe dalvik, and cache the OS that was on your phone is still there. I do all of that before I install a new ROM also but it doesnt delete all the data from your phone. I just did it to make sure i wasnt mistaken. He didn't erase the OS he just erased all the user data. it takes a while to reboot but everything works including the browser. so he could use the browser, go to whereever he downloaded the rom from redownload it and install it from whereever he is
That's NOT what he said. Then again, after re-reading it, I think he meant to wipe /system but accidentally selected his SD card.
hallstevenson said:
That's NOT what he said. Then again, after re-reading it, I think he meant to wipe /system but accidentally selected his SD card.
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Ok. Well by now dude is probably home and all is well
I see people saying that wiping data, cache, and dalvik is considered a full wipe. But isn't that incorrect? Wouldn't formatting the system, data, and cache be considered a full wipe? If using TWRP, under advanced settings or options is a an option for formatting. When choosing to format system, data, and cache partitions, isn't that what people want to do when doing a "full wipe"?
Formatting system will clear dalvik so I'm just confused when people say to wipe fully, and by that they say to wipe data, cache, and dalvik. That's nothing, but a factory reset because all that does is erase your data, and leave the system intact with whatever you installed into the system such as kernels or tweaks.
So my question is, what do you guys and gals consider to be a full wipe?
I use the advanced> format menu to wipe each invidual partition, including /system. I myself have always wondered this as well seeing as to most people, a full wipe is considered a factory reset which includes data, cache, and dalvik cache. I wipe each individual partition including system and thus never have weird problems that others complain about.
I've wondered that same thing, cause some say wipe everything and then some say format ur system first. So which is? Which way is the Proper way?
The proper way is formating
System
Data
Cache
Formatting system clears dalvik. I'm just confused because people keep telling others to do incorrect things when they say full wipe. I just want to know what the users think when they use the term.
DDiaz007 said:
The proper way is formating
System
Data
Cache
Formatting system clears dalvik. I'm just confused because people keep telling others to do incorrect things when they say full wipe. I just want to know what the users think when they use the term.
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Well I use the super wipe zip, I think that's what it's called, to wipe my phone then I was just formatting my system. I wasn't really sure what people wanted. Like I said one says wipe and one will say format, but thanks for telling me the proper way.
mugetsu666 said:
Well I use the super wipe zip, I think that's what it's called, to wipe my phone then I was just formatting my system. I wasn't really sure what people wanted. Like I said one says wipe and one will say format, but thanks for telling me the proper way.
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A zip? You'll be fine if it does what it is supposed to do. But if you do it manually, this is the correct way.
DDiaz007 said:
A zip? You'll be fine if it does what it is supposed to do. But if you do it manually, this is the correct way.
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I just looked and it's the infected wipe is what I've been using but I guess I'll start doing it the proper way then.
I have always considered wiping data, cache, and dalvik as a full wipe. And formatting every thing as, well, formatting lol. I have never formatted any of my partitions when installing new roms, can't say I have ever had an issue either.
But you certainly bring up an interesting point.
For those that are confused: "formatting a partition = "wiping" a partition.
format boot (contains kernel,ramdisk,etc.)
format system (contains base OS,apps and framework,etc.)
format data (user apps,accounts,batt stats,dalvik,etc.)
format cache (lots of stuff, lol)
/full wipe
side note: every ROM zip I've ever seen formats system and boot, so usually if you're flashing a ROM (and feel like wiping) it's totally fine to just wipe data and cache and then flash. If you're flashing over (no data wipe) then you'd want to wipe cache and dalvik, same for a kernel, that gets rid of cached stuff you probably don't want on boot. Especially dalvik since it contains a classes.dex for all your apps, which could contain old data you don't want in your new ROM. These dex files are built during the bootup, so it's safe to wipe them out, that's also the reason a bootup takes a lot longer after a dalvik wipe where you haven't wiped data.
hope this helps
When you don't get poopoo stains on your undies.
Sry troll moment lol had to do it sry diaz.
I always thought full wipe was data dalvick, cache, battery stats, system/ SD partition
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thizzlemania91 said:
When you don't get poopoo stains on your undies.
Sry troll moment lol had to do it sry diaz.
I always thought full wipe was data dalvick, cache, battery stats, system/ SD partition
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dalvik is IN /data.
batt stats are IN /data.
who wipes sdcard for full wipe?
il Duce said:
dalvik is IN /data.
batt stats are IN /data.
who wipes sdcard for full wipe?
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No **** lol
Get all those nasty tt backup apps you guys save lol
il Duce said:
format boot (contains kernel,ramdisk,etc.)
format system (contains base OS,apps and framework,etc.)
format data (user apps,accounts,batt stats,dalvik,etc.)
format cache (lots of stuff, lol)
/full wipe
side note: every ROM zip I've ever seen formats system and boot, so usually if you're flashing a ROM (and feel like wiping) it's totally fine to just wipe data and cache and then flash. If you're flashing over (no data wipe) then you'd want to wipe cache and dalvik, same for a kernel, that gets rid of cached stuff you probably don't want on boot. Especially dalvik since it contains a classes.dex for all your apps, which could contain old data you don't want in your new ROM. These dex files are built during the bootup, so it's safe to wipe them out, that's also the reason a bootup takes a lot longer after a dalvik wipe where you haven't wiped data.
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Ahh I see now, much appreciated!
DDiaz007 said:
Ahh I see now, much appreciated!
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anytime. hey what happened to nuggy? does nobody like cyan sense?
il Duce said:
anytime. hey what happened to nuggy? does nobody like cyan sense?
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I don't know, he went dark on me. I assume life. I like it, but who knows? :-(
I finally joined Google Plus so I can play tester for you guys if you still need it. I tried joining before when I had asked you, but it rejected my alias.
I am getting my Note 2 on Monday second hand. I am going to jailbreak and root but want to wipe the SD card to start fresh. I know from my S3 that a "factory reset" does not wipe the Sdcard. Can I wipe the internal SD in TWRP before installing a ROM that get rid of everything?
Character Zero said:
Can I wipe the internal SD in TWRP before installing a ROM that get rid of everything?
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In short, yes.
mutelight said:
In short, yes.
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What is the long explanation?
Character Zero said:
What is the long explanation?
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You'd want to wipe /system, /cache, and /data too for a nice clean install.
i've planned to format my internal since it left insufficient storage left.. i dont know what's wrong with my internal memory.. i already transfered all the files like photo, music and movie to my computer, and the storage still low.. so i decide to format it, but i had read some thread in google that said if we format our system, we will lost our "certificate file" something called EFS.. is this true?
No, sdcard is in /data/media folder.
EFS and other files are storaged somewhere else won't be affected if you format sdcard in right way.
if you use recovery like TWRP when you factory reset, you will see it reports something like "Wipe data without wipe /data/media "
Suggest you do so in recovery instead of system
You can format these partition without problem
Cache, dalvik cache, internal /external sdcard, data and system, don't do anything you don't know about.
If you format system, then you have to install new one otherwise phone won't even boot up.
Just be careful.
And if you do something wrong, and you can still go into recovery and download mode, then your phone is still alive.
Remember backup EFS and copy to PC!!!
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Formatting sd won't mess up your efs, in fact I format data/system/sd card and preload every flash, but that is mainly because I'm swapping between Samsung Roms and Aosp, with the associated sd/0 problems
qtwrk said:
No, sdcard is in /data/media folder.
EFS and other files are storaged somewhere else won't be affected if you format sdcard in right way.
if you use recovery like TWRP when you factory reset, you will see it reports something like "Wipe data without wipe /data/media "
Suggest you do so in recovery instead of system
You can format these partition without problem
Cache, dalvik cache, internal /external sdcard, data and system, don't do anything you don't know about.
If you format system, then you have to install new one otherwise phone won't even boot up.
Just be careful.
And if you do something wrong, and you can still go into recovery and download mode, then your phone is still alive.
Remember backup EFS and copy to PC!!!
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thank u for the information, which setting provide a format for system
slaphead20 said:
Formatting sd won't mess up your efs, in fact I format data/system/sd card and preload every flash, but that is mainly because I'm swapping between Samsung Roms and Aosp, with the associated sd/0 problems
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thank u for the information, so it's safe to for mat data/system/sd card?
NoobSEowner said:
thank u for the information, which setting provide a format for system
thank u for the information, so it's safe to for mat data/system/sd card?
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As long as anything you may need is on ext. SD, ie the Rom you want to flash after wiping!
And make sure your titanium backups and nandroid are on ext sd also, and backed up on pc, in other words, all usual precautions.
Grab HC-kTool from Play, and make a back up of your efs and copy that to multiple places then you are well and truly ready to go!
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As long as anything you may need is on ext. SD, ie the Rom you want to flash after wiping!
And make sure your titanium backups and nandroid are on ext sd also, and backed up on pc, in other words, all usual precautions.
Grab HC-kTool from Play, and make a back up of your efs and copy that to multiple places then you are well and truly ready to go!
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but, after formatting internal, does CWM recovery will also gone? then how can i flash a new ROM?
NoobSEowner said:
but, after formatting internal, does CWM recovery will also gone? then how can i flash a new ROM?
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No, your recovery will still be there
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No, your recovery will still be there
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and the internal will have more space? now im running out of MB in my internal =.=
I generally just wipe the data, cache and dalvik then flash the ROM. I have seen in a few threads to also wipe internal and SD. My question is what is getting wiped if I did do internal and SD. I've never done this before and wanted to ask before I did something I might regret later lol. Thanks.
Edde3d said:
I generally just wipe the data, cache and dalvik then flash the ROM. I have seen in a few threads to also wipe internal and SD. My question is what is getting wiped if I did do internal and SD. I've never done this before and wanted to ask before I did something I might regret later lol. Thanks.
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Anything you keep on your internal SD card...like pictures/music/documents. I would recommend not doing this at all. If you keep a ROM or other flashable zips in these locations and wipe them before you flash them, they'll disappear. It is kind of like formatting.
RMarkwald said:
Anything you keep on your internal SD card...like pictures/music/documents. I would recommend not doing this at all. If you keep a ROM or other flashable zips in these locations and wipe them before you flash them, they'll disappear. It is kind of like formatting.
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wiping internal clears out everything. meaning you wont be able to reboot into the OS from recovery unless you have a rom on your external SDS to flash before rebooting. I would recommend it unless you know what you are doing and want to start fresh.
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wiping internal clears out everything. meaning you wont be able to reboot into the OS from recovery unless you have a rom on your external SDS to flash before rebooting. I would recommend it unless you know what you are doing and want to start fresh.
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Wiping internal is wiping the internal sd card . . . so as the first person said, you'd lose all the pictures/movies/etc. one may have in their sd card...
Edde3d said:
I generally just wipe the data, cache and dalvik then flash the ROM. I have seen in a few threads to also wipe internal and SD. My question is what is getting wiped if I did do internal and SD. I've never done this before and wanted to ask before I did something I might regret later lol. Thanks.
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i wipe internal storage on every clean flash. if you get in the habit of using auto backup apps like g+ for pics, and move anything useful from downloads to the sd card as you get it, its really no haste to wipe it. i also have titanium do full backups every night while im sleeping, for system and app data.
im sure some people wil say they havent wiped it in 10 years and never have an issue. i can tell you, i dont have a fraction of the random issues most people have that arent known bugs.
08BajaBoy said:
wiping internal clears out everything. meaning you wont be able to reboot into the OS from recovery unless you have a rom on your external SDS to flash before rebooting. I would recommend it unless you know what you are doing and want to start fresh.
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i have never tried it, but im pretty sure thats not accurate.
wiping internal storage should be nothing more than an advanced data wipe. instead of only deleting user data, you are deleting system data too. but you arent wiping any system files, so the system data should rebuild on boot.
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i wipe internal storage on every clean flash. if you get in the habit of using auto backup apps like g+ for pics, and move anything useful from downloads to the sd card as you get it, its really no haste to wipe it. i also have titanium do full backups every night while im sleeping, for system and app data.
im sure some people wil say they havent wiped it in 10 years and never have an issue. i can tell you, i dont have a fraction of the random issues most people have that arent known bugs.
i have never tried it, but im pretty sure thats not accurate.
wiping internal storage should be nothing more than an advanced data wipe. instead of only deleting user data, you are deleting system data too. but you arent wiping any system files, so the system data should rebuild on boot.
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you probably are correct. I only replied because I recent had an experience with it. I passed my G2 on to a friend. I offered to load up what ever ROM he wanted and he chose CM12. I got it all loaded up and working fine. Then I decided to go back into recovery to erase any data I had on the device. I selected Internal Storage in TWRP, rebooted and it wouldn't go beyond the lg screen.
If I am correct, you would never notice it since you wipe then flash.
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you probably are correct. I only replied because I recent had an experience with it. I passed my G2 on to a friend. I offered to load up what ever ROM he wanted and he chose CM12. I got it all loaded up and working fine. Then I decided to go back into recovery to erase any data I had on the device. I selected Internal Storage in TWRP, rebooted and it wouldn't go beyond the lg screen.
If I am correct, you would never notice it since you wipe then flash.
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weird, maybe you are right. ill try it next time i clean flash and see what happens.
none of the rom code should be stored there, so it should rebuild.
if you accidentally wiped system, it defiantly wouldnt boot then.
I NEVER wipe Internal or External sd. I wipe cache, data & dalvik from time to time. I'll wipe system as well if I'm flashing a new rom. I tend to keep all of my media and app backups on my External sd just in case something ever happens. For example, if you have to revert back to stock, your Internal sd is completely wiped.