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Hey all,
Searched the forums for this and found a bit of discussion, but not a fix.
I know some people are using swiftkey x and not having display problems, but for me it's borked, no matter what i do. I've tried clearing app data, removing and reinstalling etc - nothing seems to work. Settings pages occupy about 2/3 of the screen real estate, centered horizontally and stuck to the top of the screen vertically, and when the keyboard is in use, it takes up 80% of the screen but mostly with black empty space. For this latter reason, it's pretty much unusable.
My carrier is Orange UK, but my handset is a retail/SIM unlocked stock ROM. It is up to date with OTA updates.
Is there a fix for this? Or am i screwed?
Thanks all, and apologies if this question has already been answered - i did try in earnest to find it.
Sorry but need to ask... Where did you get it from?
I got mine from the Market and all is good and dandy.
Worth every penny I must add.
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Rayan said:
Sorry but need to ask... Where did you get it from?
I got mine from the Market and all is good and dandy.
Worth every penny I must add.
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must agree, no problems at all........
I'm using the betas and havent seen such a problem, be it on stock, cm7 or customized blur roms. Maybe try spare parts and disable that legacy app fix.
Rayan said:
Sorry but need to ask... Where did you get it from?
I got mine from the Market and all is good and dandy.
Worth every penny I must add.
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No worries The market just like you. In fact i've been a SwiftKey customer for a long long time. My old SwiftKey licence seemed to transfer over to SwiftKey X when it was formally released. I did have the X beta, and at first it was fine, then after one particular update it started with this screen problem, and has been that way ever since, even after the official first release.
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I'm using the betas and havent seen such a problem, be it on stock, cm7 or customized blur roms. Maybe try spare parts and disable that legacy app fix.
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This sounds hopeful! I haven't heard of spare parts but im assuming its some sort of tweaking program? I can use it to disable some sort of legacy fix for older, none qHD apps? is that right?
EDIT: I installed spare parts but just have the following options on a settings-style screen:
battery history
battery information
usage stats
window anims
transition anims
fancy input anims
fancy rotation anim
end button behavior
haptic feedback
compatibility mode
wifi sleep policy
activity/process management
brightness mode
font size
show compass in maps
Only one which looks promising is compatibility mode?
EDIT2: Thanks a lot for that crnkoj - got it working! For all who're reading this thread and want to know: use spare parts to disable compatibility mode!
Sure, np. And ye, i meant compatibility fix just didn't remember the correct name.
Hey guys,
Just got the phone the other day.
Some guy got it as free upgrade on billpay with vodafone but decided to keep his current phone and sell this on so I got it for a great deal.
I unlocked it and changed network and everything is fine EXCEPT.
It's running really slowly for some things, especially dialer, contacts and messages.
It's on 4.1.2 by the way.
I tried resetting to factory, wiping caches, reinstalling update through Kies, resetting to factory, wiping caches again.
Nothing helps.
Seems like a lot of other folks are experiencing this crap since JB switchover from ICS.
Is there any fix for this apart from rooting and installing custom ROM?
Didn't think I'd have to go the the hassle of doing this with such an expensive phone. At times it feels like my old Vodafone 858 smart
Seriously, it can take 4-5 seconds to open contacts, dialer or messages.
Once you open them they open fast after that, until they are released from ram again.
If Samsung are aware of this and are planning an update I will hold out for that, but otherwise, root + modded ROM I reckon, as this feels like a budget phone, not an S3.
This is really crap as I was all excited to finally have a nice , quick , responsive smart phone after well over a year on my old 858 smart.
A little underwhelmed to say the least.
I tried all the fixes like animations to 0.5x and turning off location data etc.. but no difference.
The hardware seems to be fine as it got 15700 I think it was in An tu tu, and everything registered as it should. Seems like hopelessly unoptomised software to me.
Any tips, fixes or suggestions form anyone would be welcomed.
Thanks,
Mark.
All of us have to deal with this crap. Try using a not-Samsung dialer, messenger, etc.
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All of us have to deal with this crap. Try using a not-Samsung dialer, messenger, etc.
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Tried contacts+ and was still not as responsive as I would have hoped.
I actually like the samsung default functions if they worked faster.
Is there any rom that keeps the default look and functions but is a lot better optomised and has better memory management?
I might go that route if there was such a thing?
Don't want to use a rom that would loose functions the phone has, just something more streamlined and a lot quicker.
Don't know anything about roms so any suggestions would be welcomed.
Do you reckon this might actually be officially fixed in a future update? Is there enough people complaining about these issues to raise a flag with samsung?
Feared it was a faulty phone, but after reading lots of similar reports I am at least glad that it appears to be software not hardware.
Just pick any stock based ROM. My recommendation is in a PM, because I don't want to start a flame war.
I don't know about future updates, but I don't think that they give a damn about what the community thinks/wants. (the community asked for documentation of the processor and they gave us nothing aside from stuff they had to release cuz law)
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Just pick any stock based ROM. My recommendation is in a PM, because I don't want to start a flame war.
I don't know about future updates, but I don't think that they give a damn about what the community thinks/wants. (the community asked for documentation of the processor and they gave us nothing aside from stuff they had to release cuz law)
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Thanks mate, I just sent you a reply.
MarcuS_IRL said:
Tried contacts+ and was still not as responsive as I would have hoped.
I actually like the samsung default functions if they worked faster.
Is there any rom that keeps the default look and functions but is a lot better optomised and has better memory management?
I might go that route if there was such a thing?
Don't want to use a rom that would loose functions the phone has, just something more streamlined and a lot quicker.
Don't know anything about roms so any suggestions would be welcomed.
Do you reckon this might actually be officially fixed in a future update? Is there enough people complaining about these issues to raise a flag with samsung?
Feared it was a faulty phone, but after reading lots of similar reports I am at least glad that it appears to be software not hardware.
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Try exdialer from PlayStore.....it's very fast
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asdf20 said:
Try exdialer from PlayStore.....it's very fast
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Thanks but I like the look of the default one.
Just rooted and installed Wanam lite and it's definitely a lot snappier. Still the problem with the dialer, contacts and message app being dropped from memory after not being used for a while.
Is there a way to edit files to lock the dialer, contacts and message apps to memory permanently?
That would solve the problem.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Thanks but I like the look of the default one.
Just rooted and installed Wanam lite and it's definitely a lot snappier. Still the problem with the dialer, contacts and message app being dropped from memory after not being used for a while.
Is there a way to edit files to lock the dialer, contacts and message apps to memory permanently?
That would solve the problem.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Keeping the contacts and dialer in memory is one of my favorite features of JKay's Mod. I'd highly recommend that you check it out and can't say enough good about the Deluxe settings application itself (paid app on the Play store) because it allows you to fully customize the stock look and feel to your liking.
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Keeping the contacts and dialer in memory is one of my favorite features of JKay's Mod. I'd highly recommend that you check it out and can't say enough good about the Deluxe settings application itself (paid app on the Play store) because it allows you to fully customize the stock look and feel to your liking.
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Can I use jkays mod over the rom I just installed? or is it a separate rom?
If it will work with my rom can you give me a link to the latest version please?
Cheers.
MarcuS_IRL said:
Can I use jkays mod over the rom I just installed? or is it a separate rom?
If it will work with my rom can you give me a link to the latest version please?
Cheers.
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Not sure which version you installed, but you'll find all the supported versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807819
It's by far my favorite all-around mod for the SIII, and I have been a fan of it since owning the SII, which is now my wife's phone.
donalgodon said:
Not sure which version you installed, but you'll find all the supported versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807819
It's by far my favorite all-around mod for the SIII, and I have been a fan of it since owning the SII, which is now my wife's phone.
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Thanks mate.
I checked I installed GT-I9300_WanamLite.XXEMB5.V6.2.NO-WIPE .zip
I checked version number with *#1234# and it's 19300xxemb5 so I downloaded XXEMB5_JKay_Deluxe_Stock_v14_92_9.zip , is this correct?
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Did the above steps and works fine. Installed the Deluxe settings too from google play.
Man the difference now is something else.
Thanks guys for all your help, phone is brilliant now.
Its a bit of work but ASOP is very nice as well, you should do a nadroid backup and have a quick look at CM10.1
Since the new mali drivers, its been very good and super fast on all screens.
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Its a bit of work but ASOP is very nice as well, you should do a nadroid backup and have a quick look at CM10.1
Since the new mali drivers, its been very good and super fast on all screens.
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Will keep this in mind in case I have any issues in the future, but for now it's running great.
After a day of using the Wanam lite rom I am happy enough but would like to see if I could get better performance.
Even with this Rom and the JK framework and settings app I still get the occasional bit of lag, especially when using the dialer, and contacts.
Even though with the whitelist checked in JK it seems that the dialer and contacts still get kicked out of ram after a while.
Am interested in finding the smoothest, fastest rom that has instant response with dialer and contacts and also has the latest features.
I don't want to loose any features the phone had by default either.
There are so many roms available and they all claim to be super smooth and fast, so it's hard to know which to use.
I don't want to spend a whole week installing rom after rom.
Would appreciate some feedback from you guys that have tried them all as to which is the smoothest, and is there any that has instant response with dialer and contacts. Hopefully a rom that performance doesn't degrade the longer the phone is running either.
Am I asking for too much or is there such a Rom?
Cheers,
Mark.
Just got the s4 yesterday. I'm experiencing some lag issues with the gallery and mostly the text message app and sometimes other areas of the phone. When I click the text app it opens then if I click to open up one of the convos that's when I notice a big delay. It's like a 1 second delay. This is basically instant on my note 2. Is this a software problem that will hopefully be fixed soon or a hardware problem? Anyone else notice this? That text delay when you open up a convo.. Also SwiftKey seems to lag sometimes.
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I have but I just switched to gosmspro.
Yeah I just did too man its definitely a little faster but still not as fast as my note 2.
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I just don't understand how the note 2 could be faster in some ways. My s4 practically doubles my note 2 I benchmarks. Do you think it's just software stuff that they will fix?
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Os weather bug radar lag bad for anything else when zooming and zooming out? It runs a bit better on my note 2 for some reason.
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Just got the s4 yesterday. I'm experiencing some lag issues with the gallery and mostly the text message app and sometimes other areas of the phone. When I click the text app it opens then if I click to open up one of the convos that's when I notice a big delay. It's like a 1 second delay. This is basically instant on my note 2. Is this a software problem that will hopefully be fixed soon or a hardware problem? Anyone else notice this? That text delay when you open up a convo.. Also SwiftKey seems to lag sometimes.
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Try Handcent SMS or Handcent Pro Beta for texting. Much faster. If you use any 3rd party texting program remember to go to your installed applications and click on All and then disable Messaging which is the default messaging application. This way you don't get double notifications. Then drag the icon to your bottom bar and lock screen if applicable.
Ok I got chomp sms. It seems to be the fastest. Why do you think weather bug radar runs better on my note 2 than my s4? The s4 is so much more powerful it seems like everything should be faster and smoother.
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If you're rooted, an app called Seeder will make your phone noticeably snappier and quicker. Maybe using a custom launcher instead of the stock TouchWiz launcher might also help.
Seeder: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
I'm not rooted and have no idea how to do that. I'm using nova launcher prime. I'm just trying to figure out why the hell my note 2 seems to run some apps faster than the s4? Think it's a software issue that they will fix with an update?
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the s4 seems to have a laggy build in general. i noticed this right off the bat, so i rooted it and debloated it using titanium backup pro, which helped a good amount. i recently flashed hyperdrive and the lag is gone, and it is extremely fast and stable so far.
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the s4 seems to have a laggy build in general. i noticed this right off the bat, so i rooted it and debloated it using titanium backup pro, which helped a good amount. i recently flashed hyperdrive and the lag is gone, and it is extremely fast and stable so far.
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How can I do this and is it risky? I could use my dad's laptop if that works. I just want to take advantage of this beast hardware. I just don't want anything to change on my home screens bcuz I have it set up just the way I want it with nova launcher.
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Chadly said:
How can I do this and is it risky? I could use my dad's laptop if that works. I just want to take advantage of this beast hardware. I just don't want anything to change on my home screens bcuz I have it set up just the way I want it with nova launcher.
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no matter what, you can always rearrange your home screen again to make it look how you want...
follow the steps listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
that will root the phone. make sure you install a custom recovery like twrp or cwm, and make a backup. then, download titanium backup pro (it is like $6.99), and go in and freeze the apps you don't feel you need. make sure you do your research first as to what apps you are freezing, there are lists of bloatware posted all over the site. that will debloat your phone for the most part. after that, you can start to flash custom rom's with different tweaks built in. cleanrom is really nice, as is hyperdrive.
a.demarco said:
no matter what, you can always rearrange your home screen again to make it look how you want...
follow the steps listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
that will root the phone. make sure you install a custom recovery like twrp or cwm, and make a backup. then, download titanium backup pro (it is like $6.99), and go in and freeze the apps you don't feel you need. make sure you do your research first as to what apps you are freezing, there are lists of bloatware posted all over the site. that will debloat your phone for the most part. after that, you can start to flash custom rom's with different tweaks built in. cleanrom is really nice, as is hyperdrive.
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Sounds a little complicated for me to be honest. I'm usually high. I don't know what half of that stuff even means lol. I'll tell you though I did go into task manager and I disabled tons of stuff that looked like bloatware, probably like 25 apps..
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Chadly said:
Sounds a little complicated for me to be honest. I'm usually high. I don't know what half of that stuff even means lol. I'll tell you though I did go into task manager and I disabled tons of stuff that looked like bloatware, probably like 25 apps..
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well ok then...
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If you do want to root your device, I suggest looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
There isn't a whole lot you can do to fix lag or anything else without rooting and flashing a custom ROM.
I'm seriously thinking about returning it which is a shame bcuz I love the look and feel of the phone. I seriously just played gta vice city on it and it's choppy and laggy. It runs perfect on my note 2. Wtf is going on? I know the hardware isn't messed up bcuz the benchmarks are insanely high. Much higher than my note 2.
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Chadly said:
Sounds a little complicated for me to be honest. I'm usually high. I don't know what half of that stuff even means lol.
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Perfect timing then. As everyone says, you've got to clean the bloat but it has to be loosened first so heat up a kettle of water and let the water vapor soak into the phone. Once that's done the real clean begins. Just as any bacteria or virus it's got to be nuked to kill it, so stick it in the microwave on high (not "hi") for 2 minutes. if you smell somethiny funky that means all is well and an extra minue or two wont hurt.
Lastly, the dead bloatware has to be extricated from the phone so use a small screwdriver to lift a corner of the glass and then shake out the dead bloatware.. Now its time to root so get a shovel and Miraclegrow ready.
CAMERA or Camcorder turns on Transition Animation Scale to 1x!!!!
hi all,, im a noob i know,,, ive had rooted S3 for a year now, love it! got a new S4 few days ago,, rooted it,, deleted all s-bloatware, deleted all verizon bloat,, turned off all animations, and phone is still super laggy when waking up phone/doing anything,, old S3 runs circles around this S4,, called samsung today & they were no help at all,,called verizon,, they said they're pushing out a update in the next few "days" not weeks to fix an error message peeps are getting and also for the lag but more for the error is what i got from the convo,,-------- ANYWAYS my ACTUAL point of posting here is that i have noticed that every time i open the CAMERA or Camcorder on the S4 no matter if i take a picture/video or close the app right away it automatically turns on the Transition Animation Scale to 1x!!!! i would love to know if this happens to everyone and maybe they just haven't noticed lol,, also noticed that the S4 doesn't lag as much when its plugged in being charged not matter if battery is 100% or 5% but unplug phone and it adds more lag,, DO I JUST HAVE A DEFECT or what? if these things dont hold true on your S4 then i can just have them send me another one,, Or hopefully this update maybe called 4.3.1 for verizon will fix all this in the next few days,, thanks for reading
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hi all,, im a noob i know,,, ive had rooted S3 for a year now, love it! got a new S4 few days ago,, rooted it,, deleted all s-bloatware, deleted all verizon bloat,, turned off all animations, and phone is still super laggy when waking up phone/doing anything,, old S3 runs circles around this S4,, called samsung today & they were no help at all,,called verizon,, they said they're pushing out a update in the next few "days" not weeks to fix an error message peeps are getting and also for the lag but more for the error is what i got from the convo,,-------- ANYWAYS my ACTUAL point of posting here is that i have noticed that every time i open the CAMERA or Camcorder on the S4 no matter if i take a picture/video or close the app right away it automatically turns on the Transition Animation Scale to 1x!!!! i would love to know if this happens to everyone and maybe they just haven't noticed lol,, also noticed that the S4 doesn't lag as much when its plugged in being charged not matter if battery is 100% or 5% but unplug phone and it adds more lag,, DO I JUST HAVE A DEFECT or what? if these things dont hold true on your S4 then i can just have them send me another one,, Or hopefully this update maybe called 4.3.1 for verizon will fix all this in the next few days,, thanks for reading
✌ chuck,.,.
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The 1x transition from the camera bug is well known but I'm not sure if they pushed an update to fix that or not. I have heard that they did push an update to fix the security notification bug, so if you still have it I would try to do the 4.3 update again to fix it (you will lose root and have to do that again though). Touchwiz is by nature pretty laggy but what you're describing is not normal... I would do a factory reset and see if that helps. On mine I have bloat frozen, greenify, etc and it runs fairly smooth. Not buttery, but smoother than what you're saying.
Yeah i've done factory resets and used the verizon repair tool which unroots and puts all bloat back a few time to.. still the same lag.. I did all the exact same thing on my old s3 and my s4 is just way slower.. and I'm sorry I couldn't find anything on the 1x camera thing so thanks for helping.. I do still wonder if the 1x thing is on all carries and models or just on random ones?
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Hey guys, I just got a Smart Dock for my i605. Got it for half off so I figured, why not? I'm running PAC-Man Rom and having a few issues. I'm beginning to think I need Touch Wiz to take full advantage, but I thought I'd ask.
1. When I put it in the dock, if the phone is fully booted into the rom, the phone will freeze and require a battery pull. However, if you reboot and wait for it to boot and then sit on the dock there is no issue.
2. I cannot get HDMI out to work, just gives a blank screen and says no media detected. Wife's S4 works so I know the dock is good.
Does anyone have suggestions or should I just dual boot TW and AOSP? Haven't tried OTG , yet, so I don't know if that works or not.
Thanks got any help!
OTG works on AOSP but the dock doesn't fully work yet, there was a request to the AOSP devs, like sbrissen, to try and add docking support but AFAIK it hasn't been added yet.
To get full use out of your dock like you want you'll have to be on TW.
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Thanks, thought as much. Might have to try dual booting, I guess.
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Thanks, thought as much. Might have to try dual booting, I guess.
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Don't take this the wrong way.....
But is using the dock that important? I mean you only got it cause it was half off so you had lived without it before..... I personally wouldn't up and switch back to TW or dual boot just for a dock if I was happy with AOSP.
The only real feature the dock offers that I would use would be the HDMI, I certainly would leave it beside my bed with the screen on line an alarm clock cause our phone is prone to screen burn.
I guess what I'm getting at is if the only reason you're considering dual booting or going back to TW is for the dock then that isn't the best reason, if you're unhappy on AOSP then sure I could see it.
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No I love AOSP. It's the way Android is meant to be experienced. I just would like to use the HDMI in the bedroom to stream video. Also, it's nice to just throw it on the dock and charge it, but if you forget to reboot the phone, you have a froze device.
You are absolutely right, I got it as some what of a novelty item. I don't need it, but wouldn't mind some of the features it offers.
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No I love AOSP. It's the way Android is meant to be experienced. I just would like to use the HDMI in the bedroom to stream video. Also, it's nice to just throw it on the dock and charge it, but if you forget to reboot the phone, you have a froze device.
You are absolutely right, I got it as some what of a novelty item. I don't need it, but wouldn't mind some of the features it offers.
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I'm right there with you, I would love to use one even though it is somewhat of a novelty.... I just don't know if I would want to give up on a great setup to do that. Each to his own, I just want you to think it through thoroughly before you do it. And remember dual booting is a good way to fill up your internal memory.
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I'm right there with you, I would love to use one even though it is somewhat of a novelty.... I just don't know if I would want to give up on a great setup to do that. Each to his own, I just want you to think it through thoroughly before you do it. And remember dual booting is a good way to fill up your internal memory.
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True that
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I prefer TW ROMS for the extra features and love the smart dock now that I have everything dialed. To each, his own though. Most TW ROMS are pretty close to AOSP, worth just enough TW to keep everything working. Definitely worth at least trying out if you already have one.
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I prefer TW ROMS for the extra features and love the smart dock now that I have everything dialed. To each, his own though. Most TW ROMS are pretty close to AOSP, worth just enough TW to keep everything working. Definitely worth at least trying out if you already have one.
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The TW Roms I have tried, and I've tried the vast majority, are nowhere close to AOSP. Running a theme isn't the same thing and having a few little tweaks that change the DPI definitely isn't close to PAs settings.
Each to their own with what they like but TWs features are definitely not worth staying for me, the only thing I ever used was the Spen and I can get back almost all the features, and then some that weren't there, with an app.
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For me, TW camera, smart dock and smart stay are easily enough to get me to stay on a TW based ROM. Beans did a great job on his ROM. Theming or not, I rarely miss anything from AOSP. Plus everything works! BEANS with Apex/Nova and I guarantee MOST people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
But hey, here's to having choices, right? OP can always nandroid back to his current rom, should he hate it.
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For me, TW camera, smart dock and smart stay are easily enough to get me to stay on a TW based ROM. Beans did a great job on his ROM. Theming or not, I rarely miss anything from AOSP. Plus everything works! BEANS with Apex/Nova and I guarantee MOST people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
But hey, here's to having choices, right? OP can always nandroid back to his current rom, should he hate it.
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The TW camera is the only thing that I ever miss, however there are plenty of camera apps that one could use that are as good or better. For instance Camera FV-5.
As for Smart Stay, I honestly never used it because it never worked right for me. There are still other ways to get that back with apps that add similar functionality.
Like I said earlier the dock is nice, I don't own one but I have used one, but the only real awesome feature is HDMI. The rest are nothing special and can be accomplished in far better ways with other apps.
I disagree about Nova or Apex, TW goes far far beyond a launcher and pervades everything about the ROM. There are AOSP features, like per app DPI, that can be hacked onto a TW ROM but never work as well if they work at all.
There are certainly advantages to having a TW ROM but for some of us they aren't enough, perhaps when we get the 4.2.2 update and there are new features it may be good enough reason to go back.
Either way my comments were directed towards the OP who stated he preferred AOSP to TW, each of us prefer our own flavor of android and for me and the OP that's AOSP. If you love AOSP and dislike or hate TW you need to think long and hard before going back to TW for one feature that you've lived without, one that is a novelty for most of us like the Spen.
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I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
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lhkjohn said:
I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
-Duly GNOTE2'd
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I'm sure the OP has tried TW Roms, maybe not the latest but most of us flashed multiple before we went to AOSP.
While I agree the devs have done a great job there are some things that only work properly or perfectly on AOSP. And I don't know which Roms you have tried but Vanilla Rootbox has been perfectly stable for me, the only issue on the latest update is acore force closes but that issue wasn't there on 6-28, some of the Roms are rough but not all.
And a lot of us bought the phone for TW features and then found ways to implement the ones that matter in AOSP. I personally can stand how badly TW is bloated no matter what the devs do.
And while its easy to go back to a nandroid its always easier to stay on your setup that's working perfectly unless there is an excellent reason to switch.
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lhkjohn said:
I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
-Duly GNOTE2'd
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Oh yeah, I've tried them out. I actually flash every Beans that gets released. I guess part of me wants to love TW, or the features it entails. I kinda liked that Minitab thing that was going on, but just too laggy.
I don't know, maybe my gnex wrecked me, but I just love the simplicity and efficiency that AOSP is.
And thanks everyone, I enjoy the comments and suggestions.
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cadavjo said:
Oh yeah, I've tried them out. I actually flash every Beans that gets released. I guess part of me wants to love TW, or the features it entails. I kinda liked that Minitab thing that was going on, but just too laggy.
I don't know, maybe my gnex wrecked me, but I just love the simplicity and efficiency that AOSP is.
And thanks everyone, I enjoy the comments and suggestions.
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My same exact feeling for TW, I want to like it but no matter what it always turns out to be a bloated mess.... And then we have beautiful AOSP with its built in from the ground up mods that work seamlessly without having to install Xposed frameworks or having to hack the ROM apart and piece it back together. There is just something about AOSP.
Now if we could only find a Dev willing to port the TW framework for use like has been done on a few other Sammy phones! Then we'd have the best of both worlds.
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My TabZ is running quite smoothly now but I'm very itchy to up it
Just wandering what are the main pros of 4.2.2 specific to the Xperia Tab Z?
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My problem is the phablet UI.
I bought the Tablet Z to have a full 10.1" Tablet experience and not a phablet/smartphone experience.
I might try the update, since I created a FTF file of 4.1.2 there is always a way back right?
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My problem is the phablet UI.
I bought the Tablet Z to have a full 10.1" Tablet experience and not a phablet/smartphone experience.
I might try the update, since I created a FTF file of 4.1.2 there is always a way back right?
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Yep with Flashtool
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nex86 said:
My problem is the phablet UI.
I bought the Tablet Z to have a full 10.1" Tablet experience and not a phablet/smartphone experience.
I might try the update, since I created a FTF file of 4.1.2 there is always a way back right?
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I agree they turn the "Tablet" into a "Phone"
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The update is a bit okay with me. it has toggles in the notification bars for shortcut unlike the old one. Sony just unified the android 4.2.2 experience. hopefully there will be no new bugs comes with the new update.
It makes little sense to update. 4.1.2 works great, while 4.2.2 only brings ****ty phablet UI, removes SmallApps shortcut and seems to impact streaming negatively.
Not looking forward to the loss of additional pixel rows to the second new phablet bar at the top. However I'm definitely not planning to stay at a specific ancient version longer than I have to so I might as well get used to it. If it annoys me too much I'll go scout for unofficial UI patches or roms to remove it.
But why do you want to go away from the so-called "ancient" version?
It does all what one wants, and it does it fast and stable!
Or what do you miss? (Only thing I can understand is when LTE version users want to update because they finally get the exFAT support... although with some research there are other possibilities to get files >4GB on the microSD...)
Sometimes people dismiss something only because it's supposed as "old". I think this is - at least in this case - BS.
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But why do you want to go away from the so-called "ancient" version?
It does all what one wants, and it does it fast and stable!
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But it doesn't, IMHO. It may do all *you* want it to do, sure. But different people have different priorities and desires.
The old version is not receiving any (official) security patches and the new versions are introducing stuff I personally look forward to. Stuff like a modular lockscreen, multiuser functions and later on the priceless possibility to revoke individual app permissions in 4.3+.
No doubt it'll introduce as many new bugs and break old stuff. Everyone has to evaluate for himself if the good outweighs the bad. And if the balance just can't be met, there may still be other ways forward in the form of customized ROMs.
Some people will definitely make the wrong decision at first, realize it and go back. Thankfully they can, with some effort.
I'm not saying that staying at an old version is a bad thing. If you see the full picture of what you're missing (or not missing!) then it's a legit decision to make for yourself.
I am just wondering ... why have they decided to put the navigation buttons in the worst possible place? ...placing them in the middle instead of near the corners means I have to stretch my thumb a lot to press the Back button when using my tablet in landscape mode (which is 99% of the time).
The same happened at the notification bar at the top.
It just seems like they decided to just have one UI, and then just didn't care that the new UI seems very unwieldy to people with a large tablet. And the is coming from a guy with pretty long fingers.
I am not thinking that turning my tablet into a mobile is the way forward. Quite disappointed with that part of the new update, and I just know it will annoy the heck out of me.
It's a google thing .. From 4.2.2 there is no tablet UI
It's a shame about The UI. But I guess it's something you need to get used to. Can't seem to See The logic in that decision. It forces user to operate their tablet one handed. Not terribly well for 10" tabs. Unless it is one as light as XTZ.
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Because the Tablet Z is so light, I just hold it in my left hand and use my right hand for screen touches & typing. So for me having buttons in the middle of the bottom bar is easier and more consistent with my phone.
If you use a launcher like Nova you can hide the top status/notification bar and use gestures to show it (as I do).
In addition to this, now that I'm on CM 10.2 I'm using Pie, so I have no visible navigation bar as well.
Guys, the problem with the >=4.2 layout is not how you can reach best for the soft keys.
The problem is the incredible waste of screen estate by having two bars and one of them (the fatter one at that) being mostly just black with 3 tiny buttons in the middle.
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It's a google thing .. From 4.2.2 there is no tablet UI
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While it may be a AOSP thing that doesn't mean it has to be a Sony thing, each OEM makes their own version of Android and can change pretty much any thing they want to about it. This is just them being lazy with it and not wanting to go through the trouble to change the nav bar to the version we have in 4.1.2.
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While it may be a AOSP thing that doesn't mean it has to be a Sony thing, each OEM makes their own version of Android and can change pretty much any thing they want to about it. This is just them being lazy with it and not wanting to go through the trouble to change the nav bar to the version we have in 4.1.2.
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I have to agree with this. Seems to be pure laziness from Sony's side to not make use of the tablet's extra space.
Does anyone know if there is ROM out there that "fixes" the issue?
For me, holding the tablet in one hand is a no-go. Even though it is light, I would not want to handle it like my phone. It gets heavy after a while. I hold it like a book, at the edges in landscape mode. Now I (almost) can't reach the navigation buttons.
Also I have the 4G version, and the navigation pane can't even properly show the line with the service provider's name.
If they wanted to be lazy, they could just have gone full Google-experience. This seems just half-assed.