Mine GS3 is always connected the mobile networks with H - it will flick up to H+ is that is available. While the phone is dormant should it drop down to 3G to save power?
It doesn't, so I'm trying to work out it there is something syncing in the back ground keeping the H connection alive or if Fast Dormancy should be turned off.
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I'm on T-Mobile (UK)
Idle (fast dormancy) is a HSPA tech and thus does not drop out of Hspa - at least according to the graph; in reality the connection is cut.
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d4fseeker said:
Idle (fast dormancy) is a HSPA tech and thus does not drop out of Hspa - at least according to the graph; in reality the connection is cut.
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So this means it stays on H, but with no connection, it reconnects when it needs to?
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I am on T-Mobile uk and am using the newest JB leak. Mine fluctuates between H and H+ when using data and shows 3g when data not being used.
bigr1979 said:
I am on T-Mobile uk and am using the newest JB leak. Mine fluctuates between H and H+ when using data and shows 3g when data not being used.
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See this is what I thought should happen. Mine is just sitting here on H, doing nothing. I'm not too concerned, because battery is great, but I'd like to resolve it if I can!
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It just depends on your network & towers.
For years at home my Samsung phones (S1, S2 & now S3) have been on 3g when idle but over the last month it stays on H. This is due to a tower upgrade.
At a friends place it idles at H+ and at my parent's house it idles on 3g. So nothing to worry about.
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rowlers said:
See this is what I thought should happen. Mine is just sitting here on H, doing nothing. I'm not too concerned, because battery is great, but I'd like to resolve it if I can!
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slighlty off topic, but what speeds do you get whilst on H+, i get between 2 and 4 Mbps
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JSale said:
slighlty off topic, but what speeds do you get whilst on H+, i get between 2 and 4 Mbps
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I normally can get 3 Mbps max, the upload is shocking though normally 400kbps max
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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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This is probably a network coverage issue and nothing you can do about it from a phone standpoint.
Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
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Yes, I mean AT&T. Having four bars means that you have a good signal. It does not indicate however how much bandwidth AT&T has allocated to that particular area/tower.
Think of it like a wireless router at home or office. On your laptop or computer, you see that you have a strong WiFi signal but, that does not mean that you have a fast connection as that depends on your DSL/cable connection.
Get my point?
Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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No, it did not screw your phone. Your phone is innocent here. It is probably the network. AT&T may have a problem in that area. Did you try the speed somewhere else?
Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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I am on att also with the 2.1, luckily im in an area where i get around 2mb/2mb sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Did you try the setting in wirelessnetworks/mobile networks/network mode/ tick wcdma only if not on H. could help not sure, just a thought.
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Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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Your phone automatically switches between H/3G/E where available. I also have AT&T and have debranded my phone and did not notice any lag.
your problem is AT&T.
H is higher than 3G. if you got problems with it it`s because the signal is strong enough to use H but it preforms worse than 3G (cunfusing ah?!)
Well I was outside of my town the other day, in the country and noticed I was in hsdpa somehow so I ran a test and out there I was getting on average about 3.7 mbps. I guess where I am most of the time just isn't an optimal spot. Thanks all for the responses!
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A small observation i have made thus far with running code's Kang
There seems to be alot of bouncing between 3G and H+. Im not sure what the implications are in terms of bat drain or issues, however just somthing i have observed that i do not running a similar OS on my Desire HD.
My area we are not yet H+ however i hold steady at h+ most all the time.
Drew
All 4G phones have H+ constant unless they fall on EDGE
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All 4G phones have H+ constant unless they fall on EDGE
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I understand this, however its bouncing between H+ and 3G constandly like once ever other min, which seems odd
Drew
drewdatrip said:
I understand this, however its bouncing between H+ and 3G constandly like once ever other min, which seems odd
Drew
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I know devices typically switch if something is actively going on (an active data session). Are your data transmission arrows lighting up when showing H and nothing when showing 3G? If so, I think this is typical.
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Wrong. Phones only use HSPA when transferring data, they idle in vanilla UMTS.
AT&T mangles their frameworks to report everything as H+ even when it's not actually in HSDPA+ mode.
CM7 is just reporting the truth that AT&T's mangled framework hides from you.
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Wrong. Phones only use HSPA when transferring data, they idle in vanilla UMTS.
AT&T mangles their frameworks to report everything as H+ even when it's not actually in HSDPA+ mode.
CM7 is just reporting the truth that AT&T's mangled framework hides from you.
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Its bouncing both in and outside of data consumption. I dont find this to be the case Running CM7 or MIUI on my Desire HD
Just an observation
Drew
Different RIL.
And our RIL might have the same minor issue that the Infuse RIL did in which HSPA+ was reported as only UMTS - so if you were in a non-+ HSPA mode it would be H, if you were in 3G it would be 3G, if you were in HSPA+ it would be 3G. This was a display error... Do you notice any significant differences in actual data speed performance between CM7 and stock firmware?
(Actually, you could still see slow data if the CM7 tree uses older TCP buffer size values.)
I notice that at times, mobile network type changes between HSDPA and UMTS. When I go into settings>status I can see this switching back and forth. I can be in a prefect location with great signal and in an area with HSPA and still switches back and forth. This doesn't do it all the time.
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it is my understanding that our phones fall back to UMTS (old skool 3g) when no data is being used. I think it is doing this to improve battery life.
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it is my understanding that our phones fall back to UMTS (old skool 3g) when no data is being used. I think it is doing this to improve battery life.
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Correct. Stock unmodified ROMs lie and claim HSPA+/HSPA even when in vanilla UMTS mode. Some other ROMs accidentally claimed "UMTS" when in HSPA+ modes.
Reality is - UMTS (3G) when idle, HSPA/HSPA+ when active and transferring lots of data.
Perfect. Makes sense, this can be to the great battery life we are getting.
Thanks for the info and did test that when using data it does switch to the faster connection. Well at least that is what AT&T wants you to believe that they have 4G. . I only average around 2.5Mbps download in Southern California. Hopefully soon we at least can get around 5Mbps download.
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I have a Optimus One T (P509) with 3G data plan. While I was using the stock ROM, the notification bar showed a 3G icon most of the time (sometimes G or E if the connection was bad). After I flashed cyanogenmod, though, it only shows H. I checked the download speed - it was 370kbps.
It's not exactly a problem; I was just wondering why it happens. Doesn't cyanogenmod have an icon for 3G?
3G is UTMS and H is HSDPA.
HSPDA is faster than UTMS.
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3G is UTMS and H is HSDPA.
HSPDA is faster than UTMS.
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But while your phone is idle,the H icon is replaced by 3G,otherwise it will consume loads of battery in idle mode.
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But while your phone is idle,the H icon is replaced by 3G,otherwise it will consume loads of battery in idle mode.
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It actually depends on your operator and your area. Sometimes during idle they still use HSDPA, as maybe they dont have UTMS on that area(I noticed one operator does this when overseas).
Thuis is my experience:
3G icon when on 3g, H icon when also actually using data!
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Mine is always showing H..
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Mine seems to alternate, I believe if I move 1 foot to the right or 1 inch to the left the signal switches, at this moment I'm showing 3G but if I roll over it might show H
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Mine seems to alternate, I believe if I move 1 foot to the right or 1 inch to the left the signal switches, at this moment I'm showing 3G but if I roll over it might show H
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you talk sooo funnny.... lol
3g is the legacy circuit switching call. Speed limited to 384 kbps.. Hsdpa is "3.5G". Has higher speeds. This is packet switching.
Both use wcdma as the underlying technology.. Hope this answers your questions
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I dont case about this
According to Cyanogenmod wiki page, HSPDA is the fastest mode and 3G is a bit slower than HSPDA. In stock ROM, always '3G' is shown irrespective of the real network. So even if you're browsing in HSPDA network, it will show as 3G. In Cyanogenmod, this has been changed.
Read here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/FAQ#Technical
Since you're always getting H, it means that your network speeds are great. Be happy
I noticed I never get a 3G icon while using data. I get an H, G or E, but never 3G.
After some research, looks like my phone should work (my carrier, TIM, uses 2100 Mhz), but I couldn't find exact info if my city has this frequency.
Anyway, is this a software phone fault, or SIM card fault, or carrier or the info I got is wrong?
Felimenta97 said:
I noticed I never get a 3G icon while using data. I get an H, G or E, but never 3G.
After some research, looks like my phone should work (my carrier, TIM, uses 2100 Mhz), but I couldn't find exact info if my city has this frequency.
Anyway, is this a software phone fault, or SIM card fault, or carrier or the info I got is wrong?
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Isn't H and 3G the same thing? If you can get more than 0.3mbit then you have it just fine
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Isn't H and 3G the same thing? If you can get more than 0.3mbit then you have it just fine
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I find it quite strange. I get a H most of the time, but I always see other phones that get the 3G icon. Heck, even Sony official images have a 3G...
Dont worry
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I find it quite strange. I get a H most of the time, but I always see other phones that get the 3G icon. Heck, even Sony official images have a 3G...
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H is better than 3G. so it isn't a big deal.
H is HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) thats like 3.5G.
so don't worry its only better to have H.
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H is better than 3G. so it isn't a big deal.
H is HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) thats like 3.5G.
so don't worry its only better to have H.
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3.5G wasn't HSPDA+, something that the XS doesn't have (I think)?
Anyway, I never got 3G. Always jumped from H to E.
H is faster then 3G.
You might get the 3g icon if you go to villages rather then a big city. (though I don't see why it should bother)
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3.5G wasn't HSPDA+, something that the XS doesn't have (I think)?
Anyway, I never got 3G. Always jumped from H to E.
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3.5G = HSDPA
3.75G = HSUPA (HSDPA+)
4G = LTE
meh it isn't a big deal, once you have H you never want 3G.
But it depends what data-speed your provider provides.
Well, when the data connection is idle, it shows the 3G icon. And when the transfer is active, it changes to H icon. If you notice, whenever there is H, the two arrows are lit up. As simple as that
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Well, when the data connection is idle, it shows the 3G icon. And when the transfer is active, it changes to H icon. If you notice, whenever there is H, the two arrows are lit up. As simple as that
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I did notice it too! But only with the first ICS firmware! The newest firmware.45 when it's idle i see H with no updown arrow! It's not turning to 3G like the. 452
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I think xperia s don support 3g for data. Lol. Only 3.5g for data
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I think xperia s don support 3g for data. Lol. Only 3.5g for data
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Why then in Sony Oficial videos it shows 3G?
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Experiencing the same from H to E no 3g or whatever
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I noticed I never get a 3G icon while using data. I get an H, G or E, but never 3G.
After some research, looks like my phone should work (my carrier, TIM, uses 2100 Mhz), but I couldn't find exact info if my city has this frequency.
Anyway, is this a software phone fault, or SIM card fault, or carrier or the info I got is wrong?
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I think it's a carrier thing.
On O2 IRL at home I either have H or E . When I was on holidays, with a local SIM card I had H, 3G and E .
On my way home I seem to get 3G connection. So it's probably a signal strength thing. In my town and in the city where I work, I either get H or E. And sometimes even G alone lol