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Since I installed devoid froyo, the apps that I try to install from market web does not appear on my phone I have checked everything....and It should be Ok). What can I do?
Something else, I have noticed that, the apps which I uninstall on the phone, continue appearing on the "Downloaded apps" section on market app. They continue here, but instead of "Installed" they say "Free" (Just like a normal app that you have not installed)
thanks!
Javi V12 said:
Since I installed devoid froyo, the apps that I try to install from market web does not appear on my phone I have checked everything....and It should be Ok). What can I do?
Something else, I have noticed that, the apps which I uninstall on the phone, continue appearing on the "Downloaded apps" section on market app. They continue here, but instead of "Installed" they say "Free" (Just like a normal app that you have not installed)
thanks!
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Go to Settings --> Applications --> Market. Clear Cache and Data for the app.
Try to install apps and let us know if it works.
Thanks m8. Well, I have done that, then reboot, and continues the two problems
The second one...really does not matter for me, its a simple bug, but I do care that market web doesnt work
Javi V12 said:
Thanks m8. Well, I have done that, then reboot, and continues the two problems
The second one...really does not matter for me, its a simple bug, but I do care that market web doesnt work
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Dude I have been facing this issues too for 3 weeks but I have found a solution. Use Market Enabler!
U better thanks me
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Idk, but try to go to Market App setting and select filter and select maturity. I had a similar problem with can't finding my downloaded app in the market and after I select that it pop up my installed app which weren't there before. I hope this help in a way, if not, I'm sorry.
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If you use TitaniumBackup you can force attach an installed app to the market.
shotgun32 said:
Dude I have been facing this issues too for 3 weeks but I have found a solution. Use Market Enabler!
U better thanks me
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Ok I have it now, what to do? xD I havent idea
ViciousxGaruda said:
Idk, but try to go to Market App setting and select filter and select maturity. I had a similar problem with can't finding my downloaded app in the market and after I select that it pop up my installed app which weren't there before. I hope this help in a way, if not, I'm sorry.
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Oh I have tried and not, not solved
r291 said:
If you use TitaniumBackup you can force attach an installed app to the market.
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I have it and I have tried but I didnt get, How can I do it?
Thanks all you
edit - sorry I misread. I thought your installed apps weren't showing up. I guess I'll go to sleep.
btw, the market web sync is not perfect. doesn't work for me.
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After you installed market enabler, press Settings List then long press at the US T-Mobile and choose Fake this provider now. And then go to your market and walaa.
Don't forget to thank me if I helped you
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I broke my market before by deleting google talk . Try clearing the data on more google apps inc the download manager. maybe removing a market update may work too
shotgun32 said:
After you installed market enabler, press Settings List then long press at the US T-Mobile and choose Fake this provider now. And then go to your market and walaa.
Don't forget to thank me if I helped you
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I have tried it. Market appear from USA but the bug not solved Then reboot and continues the bug
However I dont forget to thank you, as always do!
aaronbutton said:
I broke my market before by deleting google talk . Try clearing the data on more google apps inc the download manager. maybe removing a market update may work too
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Thanks dude for your suggest, but it continues! I dont understand why...I have tried everything and dont solve
Even the web market continues not working
I would back up what you need to and try a factory reset, thus if its a data problem it will all be cleared. I read about other people having the issue just needed to sign in to google talk (unfortunately for me I cant sign in, in england). If that doesn't work clear everything you can in recovery (except fat32 on the sd) and do a fresh install and try it with out making any adjustments to the rom. Check as you reinstall or delete things to find the fault. Android can be effected by odd things sometimes such as the wrong date or a error in the call log
Aaron, I think that If I do what you say, a complete wipe and fresh install, the bug would solved. But I think...is too much to do, copy all....backup...configurate again... and maybe I lose something, or any setting.....So I prefer continue with the bug and dont risk to install everything from 0
Thanks.
Titanium back up will save things like settings, call logs, and data with the apps (its just a pain to click install all the time) it has a batch back up and batch restore. But I suppose if you just restored everything you may re-introduce the fault. With CWM recovery you can do a advanced restore and select the partition you want to restore. Sorry I cant suggest anything more than wiping and deleting the gapps data
Dude I got the solution,
Even I was having the same problem.
Go to market > settings > filter
N select show all apps.
Thats it.
Reboot the phone n enjoy.
Press thanx if helped u.
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Titanium back up will save things like settings, call logs, and data with the apps (its just a pain to click install all the time) it has a batch back up and batch restore. But I suppose if you just restored everything you may re-introduce the fault. With CWM recovery you can do a advanced restore and select the partition you want to restore. Sorry I cant suggest anything more than wiping and deleting the gapps data
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Yes you are right, maybe it is the only solution so I would have to do it If I want to fix the bug...Thanks for the help
However I dont understand what you say about restore partition with CWM recovey, what would I get doing it? Well really does not matter because I use Amonra, I have tried both of them and I prefer Amonra much better
chughgopal said:
Dude I got the solution,
Even I was having the same problem.
Go to market > settings > filter
N select show all apps.
Thats it.
Reboot the phone n enjoy.
Press thanx if helped u.
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Dude thanks for your help, really I already have tried it, but I will do it again...
So my market has been abysmal recently. Most of the time downloads fail and now when I try to install something I click install and it just gets stuck on loading. Already rebooted and cleared data.
Why is this happening and is there amy way to fix?
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sgtmedeiros said:
So my market has been abysmal recently. Most of the time downloads fail and now when I try to install something I click install and it just gets stuck on loading. Already rebooted and cleared data.
Why is this happening and is there amy way to fix?
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Factory reset usually fixes it but um try finding an apk to the old market and pushing it to /system/app. Maybe thatll help
I'm going to have to do that. This sucks
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clearing cache works for me but its a pita. With the amount of complaints going on you would think it'd be fixed by now. At least I can see all my apps.
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I've found that uninstalling updates from the application manager fixes all of my 3.1.5 woes. It will eventually update back to current release, but until the market is updated again, this is the best fix i've found.
Also, if you have more than one GMail account on your phone, go to 'my apps' and make sure you've got your main acct. set as the market acct.
My apps, menu button, accounts
Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!
http://android-gz.com
Market is working fine for me.
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I have same issue as op. Clearing cache and data seems to fix it for a while.
bigbassbrent said:
I have same issue as op. Clearing cache and data seems to fix it for a while.
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same here. I clear it all the time and the uncheck admob, just because. My market hangs all the time and sometimes will not show my apps installed.
Has this been strictly on wifi? I'm having the same symptoms in the market but I've narrowed it down to my wifi being garbage and not holding a connection for any app.
I'm still having the problem today - and on the Sprint network, not WiFi. Other apps work fine, just Market sucks.
Same issue here. Market hangs & won't update apps sometimes. Other times shows an update available but there won't be. Really annoying.
Yep, I've been having market issues since the new market. It really is a pain.
The new market blows chunks, I pushed the old one back. It works well and shows what it needs to show.
I installed the new 3.2.0 market on my Flyer (gotta have root, and the Photon not rooted(yet)). And I haven't had a single problem. It's pretty freakin' sweet. I have I'll post the link in a sec...
Edit: BAMM!
http://theultralinx.com/2011/10/android-market-3-2-0-download.html?utm_source=pulsenews&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UltralinxAndroid+%28UltraLinx+%7C+Android%29
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http://android-gz.com.com
i thought it was me, not understanding whats going on, my phone freezes, then restarts, for the hell of it, apps to be uploaded disapear, apps installed arent working, they dont show in the app menu, but do in the "running applications" menu
all kinds or things happen, randomly...
dave sedlak said:
i thought it was me, not understanding whats going on, my phone freezes, then restarts, for the hell of it, apps to be uploaded disapear, apps installed arent working, they dont show in the app menu, but do in the "running applications" menu
all kinds or things happen, randomly...
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Same here. To fix my problem, I used titanium backup to freeze the marketupdater.apk and then uninstalled the market updates from the applications menu. Now I am on the old market and all is well. I am wondering if the new market (version 3.2) fixes all these problems??
Has anyone been having issues with Titanium backup "hanging" during batch restorations? There seem to be certain problem apps for me that pretty consistently cause the issue. Where's My Water is one of them.
Typically, what I see happen is that the batch process will hang on one app until I force kill TiBu. Then if I go back and run the batch restore again, and choose Restore Missing Apps, it will not include the app that appeared to cause the hang (the app did actually get restored). This seems to be happening more and more often for me, on multiple devices - not just the tab.
I have tried changing to the "indirect" method of restoring in the preferences, but it still hangs.
Does anyone else have issues like this?
Thanks
Same issue. For the problem app, I can restore the app only then data just fine. Can't do both at the same time.
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Margey said:
Same issue. For the problem app, I can restore the app only then data just fine. Can't do both at the same time.
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Thanks for the feedback...
So you do app only batch restores without issues? And then a batch restore of data only? Or are you doing this as a restore of a single app?
I will have to give that a try next time I flash a new ROM.
spiff72 said:
Has anyone been having issues with Titanium backup "hanging" during batch restorations? There seem to be certain problem apps for me that pretty consistently cause the issue. Where's My Water is one of them.
Typically, what I see happen is that the batch process will hang on one app until I force kill TiBu. Then if I go back and run the batch restore again, and choose Restore Missing Apps, it will not include the app that appeared to cause the hang (the app did actually get restored). This seems to be happening more and more often for me, on multiple devices - not just the tab.
I have tried changing to the "indirect" method of restoring in the preferences, but it still hangs.
Does anyone else have issues like this?
Thanks
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I've had the issue on other devices before. You could try going to preferences in tibu, change 'processing mode' to 'indirect', and try again. See if that helps
lollee76 said:
I've had the issue on other devices before. You could try going to preferences in tibu, change 'processing mode' to 'indirect', and try again. See if that helps
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Thanks, lollee76. I actually did try that and it didn't seem to help. I filed a help request with the developer to see if they have any ideas/suggestions.
Thanks
Jeff
Same issue here - clearly not limited to a certain device - I've got the same issue on my EVO 3D. It's always Where's My Water, Sam's Club, and NFL'12 that hang up like this. Maybe next time I'll try app only then data only in 2 separate steps. But would like to hear if any feedback from TiBu developers...
jeffbengr said:
Same issue here - clearly not limited to a certain device - I've got the same issue on my EVO 3D. It's always Where's My Water, Sam's Club, and NFL'12 that hang up like this. Maybe next time I'll try app only then data only in 2 separate steps. But would like to hear if any feedback from TiBu developers...
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I sent my support request in several days ago and haven't heard anything back yet. I am always amazed at how frequently the app gets updated yet the issue persists.
I have tried the app only restores combined with using the indirect method pogroms the preference settings and I still have the same issues...
A new version just came out.
This is my first attempt at using it. I only rooted my P7310 today and wanted to do a Ti backup after doing my nandroid.
All I get from TiBkup is an FC on start. Not sure if this is the same for others w/ the new release or whether I have a bad system. Given that the new release is dated today it may be that this is a new issue.
I'm using stock 3.2 w/ CWM. My next step was to add 'motley V2d' but now I'm a little hesitant due to TiBkup not running.
boscorama said:
A new version just came out.
This is my first attempt at using it. I only rooted my P7310 today and wanted to do a Ti backup after doing my nandroid.
All I get from TiBkup is an FC on start. Not sure if this is the same for others w/ the new release or whether I have a bad system. Given that the new release is dated today it may be that this is a new issue.
I'm using stock 3.2 w/ CWM. My next step was to add 'motley V2d' but now I'm a little hesitant due to TiBkup not running.
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I actually ran my first successful restore under cgmod last night. I did a restore with apps and data without a freeze. Granted, none of the offending apps I have had issues with in the past were included, but but this may be progress for me, at least...
boscorama said:
All I get from TiBkup is an FC on start.
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TiBU v5.2.0.1 fixed the FC issue. Not sure if it will fix yours, spiff. GL
Problem solved by latest update! (so far)
Hey all,
Just wanted to post an update to the issue. I got another update from the market today (5.3), and one entry in the changelog grabbed my attention:
Version 5.3.0 ============= - Fixed an old bug that caused app restores & Market Doctor to hang while processing an app that had apostrophes in its name.
It was the stinking apostrophes in the names! This explains where's my water, Sam's club, and NFL'12. Not sure about flight control for me, but I successfully restored that one today too.
So get the update and give it a shot next time u flash a new ROM!
Thanks
Jeff
about a month ago this happend to me:
out of the blue everything on my phone started FC repeatedly (whatsapp, camera, Luancher Pro, phone, etc..) so pulled out the battery and it then it didnt want to boot up so i tried a fresh install from recovery but.. recovery was crashing as well and i had to pull out the battery every time. finally afer playing a speed game with the phone i got to re install (i wiped user chache/data /dalvik ) and the problem was gone ...
these recent days some apps started FC on me but i thought i was somewhat common .. mainly Mi file explorer .. so right now my phone started to do the same thing again.. FC everything! The main one crashing is = the process com.android.phone stopped unexpectedly. i have no signal now and cant open anything.. if i pull out battery I know it wont boot up and may not let me use recovery without a hassle!
i dont know if this has to do with but when i install a rom ( i had topsmarts 1.3) i use root uninstaller to uninstall lots things i dont want like: weather and news, terminal emulater, dev tools, es explorer..
what is can be causing this problem and what can i do to fix it??? it looks like i wont be using it today because its as good as a brick right now.
edit before OP: i selected reboot and as expected its looping at the Unlocked screen:crying:
Try re-flashing it anyway... if there's a recovery problem again let us know
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ticiano_arraes said:
Try re-flashing it anyway... if there's a recovery problem again let us know
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hey so i went into recovery and wiped and re-installed like normal... and its up and running again..
but the question is what causes it? i dont want this to happen again in X days
antmiu2 said:
hey so i went into recovery and wiped and re-installed like normal... and its up and running again..
but the question is what causes it? i dont want this to happen again in X days
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It's not a living thing or a machine with mechanics that suddenly doesn't work because of a misconception. If it was a misconception it would not work at all. If you solved it by reflashing, then it's a software issue and it won't happen again if your CWM image is not broken. But just to make sure I would reflash CWM to make sure it doesn't cause any trouble.
and be careful with removing system apps
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I believe it was you removing system apps which caused your problems. You should always freeze system apps instead of uninstalling/removing them. That way if your phone starts to act up you can thaw/unfreeze them until you figure out which one is causing the issue.
ticiano_arraes said:
and be careful with removing system apps
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Exactly. Removing system apps can result in accidental removal of base code and intrinsic system processes that are required for your ROM to function properly. These apps can probably be disabled and hidden instead of removing them altogether.
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A logcat would help tremendously here. Would show exactly why things are FCing.
sorry i dont know how to do a logcat .. but the things i remove are:
es file explorer
news and weather
gtalk
terminal emulator
theme chooser
voice dailer
antmiu2 said:
sorry i dont know how to do a logcat .. but the things i remove are:
es file explorer
news and weather
gtalk
terminal emulator
theme chooser
voice dailer
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You really have to freeze apps one by one if you are unsure of what you are doing. On stock Blur build for example, Yahoo Authenticator can cause FC issues with your contacts if you freeze or delete it. You wouldn't think this would affect your contacts, but it does.
I have an issue that I cannot pinpoint the cause of figure out a solution to. Maybe someone here can help.
My Sprint G3 is always crashing and rebooting the launcher (phone doesn't turn off, just closes evwrything). I'd be in the middle of any app and it will randomly close every single app. The running apps page always displays after every crash. It's as if too much ram is being used, but it will happen even after a fresh phone restart and launching something simple like WhatsApp.
My phone is rooted via the Stump one click method. I don't have any type of rooted mods enabled, only Adfree. I use Nova launcher (paid & updated).
Is there some sort of event viewer that will log the activity of the phone so I probably someone here can see what might be causing the phone to crash? I'm tempted to Unroot and restore back to stock... But if I can avoid that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Syph said:
I have an issue that I cannot pinpoint the cause of figure out a solution to. Maybe someone here can help.
My Sprint G3 is always crashing and rebooting the launcher (phone doesn't turn off, just closes evwrything). I'd be in the middle of any app and it will randomly close every single app. The running apps page always displays after every crash. It's as if too much ram is being used, but it will happen even after a fresh phone restart and launching something simple like WhatsApp.
My phone is rooted via the Stump one click method. I don't have any type of rooted mods enabled, only Adfree. I use Nova launcher (paid & updated).
Is there some sort of event viewer that will log the activity of the phone so I probably someone here can see what might be causing the phone to crash? I'm tempted to Unroot and restore back to stock... But if I can avoid that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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If you're running ART that could cause that. Go back to dalvik and see if that cures it.
engine95 said:
If you're running ART that could cause that. Go back to dalvik and see if that cures it.
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I believe I'm still on dalvik as I never changed that setting.
Syph said:
I believe I'm still on dalvik as I never changed that setting.
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Maybe it's Adfree then. There's a special version that some people are using. It's in it forum somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
In the meantime, uninstall it and see if it goes away.
engine95 said:
Maybe it's Adfree then. There's a special version that some people are using. It's in it forum somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
In the meantime, uninstall it and see if it goes away.
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Thanks. I've reverted my adfree hosts file and uninstalled it. But I think the issue persists. If I try to use any app that clears cache, specifically Clean Master, when it's doing the scan of apps it'll crash midway through the scan. If I go to system settings > Apps & wait for all the downloaded apps to load the details, it'll crash there too.
This is the oddest thing.
Edit:
This visual may help. It's a video of me running Clean Master & seeing how it just crashes. I can replicate this issue every time like this, but the crashes are random when using other apps.
Link to video: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9-N9bB35E-QdnY3Zk1FaW9EMXM/edit?usp=docslist_api
Ok, so I began uninstalling some apps that I thought may have been the issue... Which they weren't as the crashing still continues. I decided to reboot under safe mode and the problem occurs there too.
I honestly cannot recall if this began before or after rooting with stump. I may have to Unroot & factory restore. =/
Syph said:
Ok, so I began uninstalling some apps that I thought may have been the issue... Which they weren't as the crashing still continues. I decided to reboot under safe mode and the problem occurs there too.
I honestly cannot recall if this began before or after rooting with stump. I may have to Unroot & factory restore. =/
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I'm at a loss... The 2 things I mentioned can be the culprits, but not for you I guess. Some other ideas?
Did you uninstall Stump after getting root?
Have you froze or uninstalled any system apps/ priv-apps?
It might even be Nova is having issues.
That's all I got.
engine95 said:
I'm at a loss... The 2 things I mentioned can be the culprits, but not for you I guess. Some other ideas?
Did you uninstall Stump after getting root?
Have you froze or uninstalled any system apps/ priv-apps?
It might even be Nova is having issues.
That's all I got.
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Thank you for your help. Nova was one of the apps I removed. I did remove the stump app after rooting & did not freeze/remove any system critical apps/files. I'm also at a loss.
I would try a restore to stock as the final option. If that doesn't fix it then I dunno man.
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haoleflip said:
I would try a restore to stock as the final option. If that doesn't fix it then I dunno man.
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I plan to do that this evening. Was hoping to not restore to stock... It'd always a pain setting up themes & apps again. Lol.
Syph said:
I plan to do that this evening. Was hoping to not restore to stock... It'd always a pain setting up themes & apps again. Lol.
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Pssh all of that stuff can wait and can be downloaded again. My main priority would be getting my phone working again lol
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haoleflip said:
Pssh all of that stuff can wait and can be downloaded again. My main priority would be getting my phone working again lol
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Tried to unroot but the phone doesn't move past the "Firmware Update. Do not unplug the phone..." screen after holding Volume Up & plugging into the computer. I installed the drivers before hand. But the "CDC Serial" doesn't update. I attempted to manually update the driver by browsing for the folder, but no go.
I may end up having to go to Sprint and exchange the phone for another one.
Syph said:
Tried to unroot but the phone doesn't move past the "Firmware Update. Do not unplug the phone..." screen after holding Volume Up & plugging into the computer. I installed the drivers before hand. But the "CDC Serial" doesn't update. I attempted to manually update the driver by browsing for the folder, but no go.
I may end up having to go to Sprint and exchange the phone for another one.
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any updates? did you ever fix the problem?
thanks!
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any updates? did you ever fix the problem?
thanks!
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TL;DR version = Yes, I did fix it. Factory restore did the trick.
A few days after my last post the phone wasn't as bad as the video. It would still crash and reset but mainly after heavy app usage or when trying to clear app cache using any app like Clean Master.
Once my storage reached about 40% used and I couldn't clear the cache, I began to get constant Play Store error messages. No apps would update. I think it was error 483 or something close to hat number.
Since I couldn't flash back to stock because the drivers wouldn't install, I gave up and tried a factory reset. I nearly sh-t myself bc once I confirmed the restore, the phone didn't want to automatically reset per the instructions. I pressed the button multiple times and nothing. I pulled the battery and when I turned it back on, I got the initial screen with the "powered by android" and then black. It did not wanna do anything. Pulled battery again, same outcome. It left it for maybe 10min and still nothing.
I was ready to go back to sprint and see if I could exchange the phone. While researching the closest store, the phone beeped and the initial android setup screen appeared. This was about 25min of waiting on a black screen.
The phone is now back to working order and it's still rooted. There must have been a corrupt file that was erased/restored once the g3 decided to behave.
Syph said:
TL;DR version = Yes, I did fix it. Factory restore did the trick.
A few days after my last post the phone wasn't as bad as the video. It would still crash and reset but mainly after heavy app usage or when trying to clear app cache using any app like Clean Master.
Once my storage reached about 40% used and I couldn't clear the cache, I began to get constant Play Store error messages. No apps would update. I think it was error 483 or something close to hat number.
Since I couldn't flash back to stock because the drivers wouldn't install, I gave up and tried a factory reset. I nearly sh-t myself bc once I confirmed the restore, the phone didn't want to automatically reset per the instructions. I pressed the button multiple times and nothing. I pulled the battery and when I turned it back on, I got the initial screen with the "powered by android" and then black. It did not wanna do anything. Pulled battery again, same outcome. It left it for maybe 10min and still nothing.
I was ready to go back to sprint and see if I could exchange the phone. While researching the closest store, the phone beeped and the initial android setup screen appeared. This was about 25min of waiting on a black screen.
The phone is now back to working order and it's still rooted. There must have been a corrupt file that was erased/restored once the g3 decided to behave.
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Congrats!
My G3 is crashing in the similar manner as the video you uploaded.
Except that it only happens when I'm in office connected to office wifi with almost no cellular reception.
On top of that, as far as I could tell... only two apps are causing the launcher to crash... the game Clash of Clans and LINE.
Very very strange....