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I apologize if this thread is a tad redundant, but I believe it goes beyond your run-of-the-mill glitches that one might post about in the ICS Bugs thread.
I got my OTA upgrade about 10 days ago, and since then my RAZR has been utterly useless.
The biggest problem is an obvious issue with power management. With GB I used to get almost a full day of heavy use. Now I get 2 hours, 3 if I'm lucky. I often find that the phone is extremely hot, as if the processor and radios are running at 100% for no reason.
Perhaps worse than that, it takes infinitely longer to charge than it used to. As in, 5+ hours to go from 0% to 100% -- and that's while the phone is powered off. Powered on, it'll take even longer.
I've experienced issues with almost every app, and with some I've had literally no success whatsoever. Facebook freezes half of the time before even loading up. The stock Browser will freeze a few times a day. Alarm Clock Xtreme freezes whenever I try to edit an alarm. Neither the stock Gallery nor third-party image apps will load up any of my photos without freezing. Google Talk won't initiate video chats. The list goes on and on.
Moreover, the phone will often just freeze outright. Sometimes the screen won't light up, regardless of how many times I press the power button. Sometimes the phone gets stuck on the home screen, and responds to nothing. Sometimes the phone becomes unresponsive, although pressing the capacitive buttons still triggers haptic feedback. Because of this, several times a day I just hold power+down to shut it off the hard way.
At this point, I actually avoid using it. It's that useless. It's more burdensome than it is helpful. It sucks because, when it's working, everything is really smooth and the ICS interface is really cool. I can tell it would be awesome, if only it worked.
Has anyone experienced such madness as this?
FYI, I'm running:
Android version 4.0.4
System version 6.16.211.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.11.01PLTEDC_U_09.11.00
Kernel version 3.0.8-g29cf5e7, [email protected] #1
Build number 6.7.2-180_DHD-16_M4-31
I can't believe they would release something so unstable.
And yes I've gone into recovery and wiped the cache partition several times to no avail.
I admit there are some issues with the battery and heat and bugs, but i have not experienced any freezing with the stock browser or any program really, alarm clock extreme and it works for me, I don't use the Facebook app often but the few times i have, no real issues sometimes it lags trying to update. I will say thay the market SUCKS or play whatever they call it. Maybe you got a corrupt OTA file or something is wrong with your update installation. Maybe try doing a factory reset, i know that sucks to do but i do it before every OTA and im not really experiencing any of the software issues you are experiencing. If that doesn't help, root it and use the razr 1.7 utility to reinstall the system files.
Did you try to wipe the device (factory default)? It helped in my case.
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If you wana solution to some problems without wiping the phone, boot into recovery and wipe the cache, fixed my battery and a few other problems, It doesnt remove anything you have done, also it eliminated my lagg problem.
abw1987 said:
I apologize if this thread is a tad redundant, but I believe it goes beyond your run-of-the-mill glitches that one might post about in the ICS Bugs thread.
I got my OTA upgrade about 10 days ago, and since then my RAZR has been utterly useless.
The biggest problem is an obvious issue with power management. With GB I used to get almost a full day of heavy use. Now I get 2 hours, 3 if I'm lucky. I often find that the phone is extremely hot, as if the processor and radios are running at 100% for no reason.
Perhaps worse than that, it takes infinitely longer to charge than it used to. As in, 5+ hours to go from 0% to 100% -- and that's while the phone is powered off. Powered on, it'll take even longer.
I've experienced issues with almost every app, and with some I've had literally no success whatsoever. Facebook freezes half of the time before even loading up. The stock Browser will freeze a few times a day. Alarm Clock Xtreme freezes whenever I try to edit an alarm. Neither the stock Gallery nor third-party image apps will load up any of my photos without freezing. Google Talk won't initiate video chats. The list goes on and on.
Moreover, the phone will often just freeze outright. Sometimes the screen won't light up, regardless of how many times I press the power button. Sometimes the phone gets stuck on the home screen, and responds to nothing. Sometimes the phone becomes unresponsive, although pressing the capacitive buttons still triggers haptic feedback. Because of this, several times a day I just hold power+down to shut it off the hard way.
At this point, I actually avoid using it. It's that useless. It's more burdensome than it is helpful. It sucks because, when it's working, everything is really smooth and the ICS interface is really cool. I can tell it would be awesome, if only it worked.
Has anyone experienced such madness as this?
FYI, I'm running:
Android version 4.0.4
System version 6.16.211.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.11.01PLTEDC_U_09.11.00
Kernel version 3.0.8-g29cf5e7, [email protected] #1
Build number 6.7.2-180_DHD-16_M4-31
I can't believe they would release something so unstable.
And yes I've gone into recovery and wiped the cache partition several times to no avail.
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Data wipe, itll fix it. If you dont want to.do.that then root and wipe the cache and dalvik cache.
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AndroidGreg said:
If you wana solution to some problems without wiping the phone, boot into recovery and wipe the cache, fixed my battery and a few other problems, It doesnt remove anything you have done, also it eliminated my lagg problem.
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This is step 1... see if this fixes it... if not, full wipe.
Erik
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This is step 1... see if this fixes it... if not, full wipe.
Erik
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ICS is very different from GB, and Motonverizola tried really hard to get ICS to play well with existing GB cache data and GB settings. All of that stuff changed a LOT.
The problem isn't ICS: the problem is data conversion from GB to ICS.
Wipe the cache and dalvik. If that doesn't get it, then do a factory reset and set everything up again.
Mine runs for days with light use (1-3 hours a day), or a day+ with heavy use. It doesn't get hot, unless you mean that the other way. But that'd be kinda creepy.
Hi
This is my first post here at this forum and I'm not a Razr user but thinking about getting the Maxx because of it's hardware and big battery which fits my usage of a smartphone, I have a Galaxy S right now.
I have looked at some of the posts and screenshots of the battery usage on the new leaked/released ICS for the Razr and read about complains about the short lived battery and the devices that overheat, well, we had the same problem when GB has been released to the Galaxy S and that is all related to the Android OS app that is using the battery because it's got into a loop, this will not get fixed unless you make Motorola aware of the problem. I could be wrong but I think that is related to the dalvik-machine. Android OS should be using around a single-digit of the battery of all time (3%-7%), we don't have this issue anymore since Samsung fixed this bug in the later releases of GB firmwares.
A temporary fix of the Android OS is to reboot the phone when you can see that it's hijacking the battery, this is until Motorola fixes the issue.
I wish you all good luck and hope that you will get a better firmware soon.
Its always good practice to start fresh when accepting an update that big. Less variables = less problems.....
Id do a factory reset and start from scratch... that sux... i know, but so does a useless phone
Ics def wasnt all the hype.... but its also not that bad... just gotta start clean.
Good luck!
Complete disaster? How is it a disaster compared to my update? After the update I could no longer receive text messages, Consider the fact that I send a receive hundreds of text messages per day this is honestly the biggest cause of outrage I have with a flagship that can't perform even what a Nokia 6280 could, when I finally receive texts they come in 4 hours late and worse still, in DUPLICATES and I can't seem to find any solution to this as of yet. A factory reset fixes this for an hour at best but the problem suffices after that. Does anyone have a SOLUTION to this? Honestly driving me nuts
I agree with most others... do a factory reset. I always do after a major upgrade (and ICS is a major upgrade!)
Then check what apps you are putting on the machine; some cause issues. For instance, I put the new Starbucks 2.0 app upgrade on my phone yesterday - consumed battery like mad, phone ran hot (like cook-an-egg-on-it hot), runaway processes, etc. Turns out it was the new Starbucks app; after removing it the phone ran normal.
Otherwise I love ICS! So try the cache wipe; and if that doesn't help then do a factory reset and reinstall things. Takes time, but it saves in the long run.
Wow, this is crazy to hear. My update has been flawless but I did a factory reset after getting it. I bet if you did that it would fix 99% of your problems.
I also rooted after and now I'm running a cm9 rom. This is the best my phone has ever run.
Ultimately, even if you don't root you can fix most of these problems with a factory reset.
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Hold down the Home button to see what's running, download a task manager to see what's dominating the CPU. The phone won't get hot by itself, something is using up the CPU (like you said) if you don't want to factory reset you've got to figure out what it is. Rooting and setting the CPU governor to hotplug will save quite a bit in battery (shuts the 2nd core off when not needed).
I'm on a Canadian leak, the first day battery performance was terrible. By the 4th day, the battery lasted longer than GB
I concur with everyone here about the factory reset.
As other's have mentioned, going from GB to ICS is a major overhaul. I've read elsewhere what this really entails and it's not pretty. Suffice it to say, I backed up all my user apps and data (using Titanium Backup), saved off all other things that were on my internal SD card just to be safe and then applied the OTA update in stock recovery, wiped data and cache and rebooted. I then rooted, installed Safestrap and flashed Eclipse ICS v1.2 RC1 and restored my apps with TiBu.
I also tried stock ROM as well and restored my apps via TiBu.
In both cases, no performance issues nor forced closes. Runs like a champ.
I'm running the latest .214 leak and my battery life has improved over .211.
.214
Razr Maxx
I was having shorter battery life with the ICS .211 build and then updated to .214
My battery life is way better then it ever was with GB or ICS .211
I ran it the other day for 36hrs and 3 of it actually talking on the phone and had 20% battery life left.
It has currently been on for 4hrs 6 min and is at 90%. light email and phone use. I do have an IMAP email account that poles every 10 minutes with push for instant updates.
Mine is running fine after simple reboot
I am getting great battery life and my Razr Maxx is working almost flawlessly after the ICS OTA stock update. I just rebooted it shortly after the update when it was running hot and haven't had any problems since.
If .214 is even better, great.
Looking forward to Jelly Bean to get even more from my device.
Jeff
Was on the soak test and had the same battery problems. Only way to fix was via a factory reset. This did however fix all the problems.
Cant use motocast, it wont connect to my motocast on my mac. So i cant sync my media. How to solve this?
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
As mentioned I have tried booting into recovery and clearing the cache, but it doesn't help.
Some have suggested wiping the dalvik cache. However I don't see that as an option in the recovery menu. Do I need to root to have that option? Excuse my newness to this.
Worst case I guess I'll just have to do a factory reset
abw1987 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone.
As mentioned I have tried booting into recovery and clearing the cache, but it doesn't help.
Some have suggested wiping the dalvik cache. However I don't see that as an option in the recovery menu. Do I need to root to have that option? Excuse my newness to this.
Worst case I guess I'll just have to do a factory reset
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Its under the advanced menu.
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The RAM in my s2 has decreased from.92gb to 867mb since flashingics via odin(kies didn't work since the phone had zclp7(chinese) baseband, I have tried all the methods I could possibly think of, like reset, clear cache, clear dalvik, flashing different versions of gingerbread(2.3.4 and 2.3.6) and then flashing ICS back(both 4.03 and 4.04), which didn't work either, cm9(stable, rc1,rc2 and two nightlies, none of them worked but I kept the stable because I liked it better than the touchwiz), cm10(all three nightlies avaliable), and calling samsung(who politely told me to f\_/c1< off because my phone was bought in China, resulting in me directly saying it to them which then resulted in a dead line). So any conventional way, I've probably tried, and it's not effective. I'd love to hear unconventional ways and/or why this is occuring. A simple google search revealed that I wasn't the only one with this problem, and nobody has a solution for it yet.
ps ever since flashing to cm9, I've had unexpected shutdown and immediate reboots(when I'm doing something, it stops responding for two seconds and the boot screen comes up and I lose everything I was doing before) This only happens when my screen is on, never when my phone is sleeping.
Thanks in advance for your responses!
The ICS operating system handles memory very differently from gingerbread. ICS employs GPU rendering of the UI and handles background processes differently. Hardware acceleration also is a major factor in RAM consumption. If you need that 100MB of RAM, you might have to stay on gingerbread, but if you don't really need it, you can just stay on ICS. The purpose of the extra RAM consumption was to make things smoother.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html
Hey man
Your title says 687MB but the body of your message says 867MB. Can I also suggest writing 920MB for the sake of consistency.
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xxhorseriderxxx said:
The ICS operating system handles memory very differently from gingerbread. ICS employs GPU rendering of the UI and handles background processes differently. Hardware acceleration also is a major factor in RAM consumption. If you need that 100MB of RAM, you might have to stay on gingerbread, but if you don't really need it, you can just stay on ICS. The purpose of the extra RAM consumption was to make things smoother.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html
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ok, thanks, but i lost one-third of my RAM, not 100mb(typo there), and hardware acceleration doesn't seem to make a difference...except drain my battery. I love the ICS software, though, so any other suggestions?
samlives said:
Hey man
Your title says 687MB but the body of your message says 867MB. Can I also suggest writing 920MB for the sake of consistency.
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yesh, sorry about the typo, I wrote two other versions of the letters already, the first one that was written on my phone got deleted when it rebooted, the second one got deleted when I pressed the wrong button on my computer...so I got a little impatient and careless
Lol...I know the feeling. I do it more than I care to admit.
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If anyone is experiencing this problem, I hope the following steps may help.
I would like to express my appreciation to XDA members, who have commended and helped out with this. Credits go to @LordManhattan and @abuihsan . Many thanks for your help.
1/ Do a re-flash: I always thought my device was a c6802, after I flashed c6833, it helped.
2/ Do a factory reset/ Cache wipe/ Dalvik Wipe/ in recovery or in the phone settings.
3/ Install SD-Maid and clean the mess from the programs, also take a look at APPCONTROL to see which is running. You can freeze it here.
4/ Install Performance control to Underclock your CPU. Believe me, 1.7Ghz is far too enough for all the tasks you need.
5/ Use more pwerful tool, like Titanium Backup to stop all the backgound-running apps. You just need to leave the one which were in GREEN color.
6/ Use Wakelock Detector to see which apps get your phone out of deepsleep. Mostly they are Facebook and Messenger. My advice: Disable Facebook notice and if you don't use chat quite often, don't install facebook messenger.
Hope these help.
Personally I had tried a lot of methods, including checking the processes and re-insert the memory card but no such helps. Therefore, if you need any advice or any comments, feel free to send me an PM or reply here, I will gladly help you out, like what the community had helped me our of my situation.
Hi everyone,
Recently I just bought a ZU from a local vendor here. It runs 4.2.2 with no problem. However, I want to get rid of the *new system update* and I also want to use the xperia Themes, I decided to upgrade to 4.3.
My phone model is C6802, and I chose the file here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453921
The upgrade went through fast and smooth, as I had experienced in many Sony devices.
However, after getting to 4.3, I had noticed some problems as follow:
+ Heat: Device heats up very fast, even left alone. Just imagine you have the phone on 100% battery lying on your table, a moment later it heats up and the battery drops dramatically.
+ Battery drop: Just as mentioned above, the battery drops quickly. I do not expect extreme battery life on this device, but since 4.3, it is too low, I can barely make it to 6 hours without doing anything consuming battery.
+ Process: When checking the battery, I notice that most of the process that takes up battery is Android OS, which nearly 50-60%. I use the phone frequently to answer SMS and call, sometimes play games. I think that the most used applications should be the bad-ass screen?
I am running on the 14.2.A.0.290 with R4B.
Anyone had experienced this problem before, or know a solution to fix? Will clearing the Dalvik Cache help? I had re-flash several times but the problem is still there.
Many thanks in advance.
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Sounds like somethings has gone wrong in the update process.
Have you tried backing up all your data and doing a factory reset?
I do not think clearing Dalvik will help you here, sounds like something else is acting up. You could try to install one of the apps designed to detect what is causing the wakelock.
I'm not at my Android tablet at the moment, but I think I used this when I had this problems myself on my Galaxy Note: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
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fjevel said:
Sounds like somethings has gone wrong in the update process.
Have you tried backing up all your data and doing a factory reset?
I do not think clearing Dalvik will help you here, sounds like something else is acting up. You could try to install one of the apps designed to detect what is causing the wakelock.
I'm not at my Android tablet at the moment, but I think I used this when I had this problems myself on my Galaxy Note:
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First of all, thanks for your reply and suggestion.
I had tried to flash the roms multiple times, but the problem still exists. Furthermore, I even flash back to 4.2.2 and the problem is still there. The phone heats up slowly and battery runs out pretty fast.
I had installed the Wakelock Detector on my device and I will update the situation tomorrow, I will leave it there for a night and see the status tomorrow.
Did you wipe after updating? I had the same issue when i updated to 4.3.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as he's been downgraded to 4.2.2 again, he'd have to wipe. At least that is how it was on my Xperia Z.
-KJ
this might not be related, but I've been noticing much worse battery life today than normal! i normally only drop about 50% in 24 hours, but today I've dropped 30% in just a few hours. Android OS seems to be doing it...
no real heat issue tho, maybe slightly warmer from whatever the OS is doing, but nothing too major. running stock rooted 4.3
had that on my Xperia Z on a 4.1 or 4.2 build (dunno which one). Sounds strange, but simply turning off the sync fixed the problem, give it a try :laugh:.
Hope it also helps on your XZU.
LordManhattan said:
Did you wipe after updating? I had the same issue when i updated to 4.3.
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At first I did not choose to wipe Data in Flashtool, then I flashed again, this time I checked everything.
the problem still exists.
UPDATE:
Yesterday after working hours, I had rooted and installed BetterBatteryStats, Performance Control to monitor the system. I also had WaveLockDetector and Titanium Backup installed.
It appeared that the CPU runs all the time, in the highest state (2.15 Ghz), the phone never goes to DeepSleep and Awake all the time.
On Performance control, I had underclocked the CPU to 1.5Ghz and the temperature seems to be cooler.
I had tried to freeze a lot of applications via Titanium backup but so such luck.
Still researching.
However, many thanks to your kind replies. At least I know that I'm not alone with this problem :good:
justsomebody said:
At first I did not choose to wipe Data in Flashtool, then I flashed again, this time I checked everything.
the problem still exists.
UPDATE:
Yesterday after working hours, I had rooted and installed BetterBatteryStats, Performance Control to monitor the system. I also had WaveLockDetector and Titanium Backup installed.
It appeared that the CPU runs all the time, in the highest state (2.15 Ghz), the phone never goes to DeepSleep and Awake all the time.
On Performance control, I had underclocked the CPU to 1.5Ghz and the temperature seems to be cooler.
I had tried to freeze a lot of applications via Titanium backup but so such luck.
Still researching.
However, many thanks to your kind replies. At least I know that I'm not alone with this problem :good:
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I ever had no deep sleep problem with 4.3, even in stamina and airplane mode, and with location-off too, I checked with BBS and found the 'trigger' is a process under google now app. I use GREENIFY and get the google now hybernated. Everything fines now and I still can use google now as it only hybernated when not in use : )
abuihsan said:
I ever had no deep sleep problem with 4.3, even in stamina and airplane mode, and with location-off too, I checked with BBS and found the 'trigger' is a process under google now app.and get the google now hybernated. Everything fines now and I still can use google now as it only hybernated when not in use : )
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hey, thanks for your reply. I did the same to you, even with Titanium backup to ensure this will never shows up again, but CPU keeps throtlling at 100%. I still can not find an answer to this 100% thing. now the phone is quite hot in my pocket, I decided to put in my bag and even turn off to keep it from heating.
I will try another rom and update.
justsomebody said:
hey, thanks for your reply. I did the same to you, even with Titanium backup to ensure this will never shows up again, but CPU keeps throtlling at 100%. I still can not find an answer to this 100% thing. now the phone is quite hot in my pocket, I decided to put in my bag and even turn off to keep it from heating.
I will try another rom and update.
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do you use any cleaner/task killer app? before trying other rom or update, maybe you need to uninstall it, reboot recovery and wipe cache and see the result.
I don't know if this is relevance but while using greenify I also uninstall the previous cleaner app and replace with another one that I think is better.
now my c6833 has great deep sleep.
abuihsan said:
do you use any cleaner/task killer app? before trying other rom or update, maybe you need to uninstall it, reboot recovery and wipe cache and see the result.
I don't know if this is relevance but while using greenify I also uninstall the previous cleaner app and replace with another one that I think is better.
now my c6833 has great deep sleep.
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Hi, Thanks again for your advice.
Would you please give me the name of the cleaner apps that you think are way better?
Are you running on 4.3 stock or on some modified roms?
justsomebody said:
Hi, Thanks again for your advice.
Would you please give me the name of the cleaner apps that you think are way better?
Are you running on 4.3 stock or on some modified roms?
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The thing is, you don't need a task killer/cleaner app. It was useful way back on Android 2.1/2.3, but you shouldn't use it at all on 4.0+. You're actually making things worse.
mine has been heating up as well. the battery isn't draining like how yours is, but any kind of use will heat the top back side of the phone. I checked and after killing all apps, my cpu load was still around 65%. is that normal? no custom flash here. locked bootloader. updated through pcc normally. I'd imagine this is why 4.3 isn't running as buttery smooth like everyone else.
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ij0rgei said:
mine has been heating up as well. the battery isn't draining like how yours is, but any kind of use will heat the top back side of the phone. I checked and after killing all apps, my cpu load was still around 65%. is that normal? no custom flash here. locked bootloader. updated through pcc normally. I'd imagine this is why 4.3 isn't running as buttery smooth like everyone else.
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No, that's not normal. Mine's around 20-30 degress celsius (depending on what i'm doing). Even streaming 1080p videos shouldn't make it hot or even mildly hot. When i had the heating problem, two cores would always be stuck at 2150 MHz. Now one core is active at 960 MHz when the screen is on. CPU load is around 20 and 60% (single core). Temperature is currently at 26 degrees. Also, stop killing apps and processes. Most of them are set to start automatically, so when you kill them over and over again, they'll start again and they'll use even more battery. Android is built to manage resources very well on its own, and it's not operating like Windows or any other computer OS. Just leave it alone unless something has gone rouge and you don't have a choice.
I'm on stock 290, rooted and extremely debloated.
- Current battery level: 88%
- Current uptime: 3 h 30 min
- Current screentime: 1 hour (browsing etc.)
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No, that's not normal. Mine's around 20-30 degress celsius (depending on what i'm doing). Even streaming 1080p videos shouldn't make it hot or even mildly hot. When i had the heating problem, two cores would always be stuck at 2150 MHz. Now one core is active at 960 MHz when the screen is on. CPU load is around 20 and 60% (single core). Temperature is currently at 26 degrees. Also, stop killing apps and processes. Most of them are set to start automatically, so when you kill them over and over again, they'll start again and they'll use even more battery. Android is built to manage resources very well on its own, and it's not operating like Windows or any other computer OS. Just leave it alone unless something has gone rouge and you don't have a choice.
I'm on stock 290, rooted and extremely debloated.
- Current battery level: 88%
- Current uptime: 3 h 30 min
- Current screentime: 1 hour (browsing etc.)
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hmm... yea that sounds like the problem i am having. im noticing two cores stuck at 2150mhz with a third kicking in here and there. how were you able to fix it? just a fresh install of .290?
so as far as the apps go, i have Du Battery Saver installed and the "optimize" button is supposed to clear up some of the background junk. are you saying that i should leave the optimize button alone and just let android figure itself out?
ij0rgei said:
hmm... yea that sounds like the problem i am having. im noticing two cores stuck at 2150mhz with a third kicking in here and there. how were you able to fix it? just a fresh install of .290?
so as far as the apps go, i have Du Battery Saver installed and the "optimize" button is supposed to clear up some of the background junk. are you saying that i should leave the optimize button alone and just let android figure itself out?
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What i'm saying is that you should uninstall that crappy app. Task killers were useful three years ago when Android devices had slow processors and low amount of RAM. What you're doing now is killing everything everytime you tap that button. WHY do you want to do that? What's the point of having 2GB of RAM when you don't want to use it? Are you always killing processes on your computer too? Would you do it if your computer had 32GB of RAM with 30GB available? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Android is a modern OS that can handle this on its own. If you only have 300MB RAM left and you want to play Asphalt 8 which requires (i'm guessing) 500MB RAM, Android will find the oldest and less frequently used process and kill it. It's that easy.
You can read more about it here and here.
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What i'm saying is that you should uninstall that crappy app. Task killers were useful three years ago when Android devices had slow processors and low amount of RAM. What you're doing now is killing everything everytime you tap that button. WHY do you want to do that? What's the point of having 2GB of RAM when you don't want to use it? Are you always killing processes on your computer too? Would you do it if your computer had 32GB of RAM with 30GB available? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Android is a modern OS that can handle this on its own. If you only have 300MB RAM left and you want to play Asphalt 8 which requires (i'm guessing) 500MB RAM, Android will find the oldest and less frequently used process and kill it. It's that easy.
You can read more about it here and here.
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gotcha. I get what you're saying.
now that that is settled, what to do about the original problem? phone is still heating up.
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ij0rgei said:
gotcha. I get what you're saying.
now that that is settled, what to do about the original problem? phone is still heating up.
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I think it'll be a little easier if you tell us what you've done till now. We have no idea what you've tried and not tried.
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LordManhattan said:
I think it'll be a little easier if you tell us what you've done till now. We have no idea what you've tried and not tried.
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ok. so I haven't done anything at all to remedy the situation. I figured I'd ask about it before messing it up myself. I upgraded to .290 via pcc. it updated fine with no errors. once it was done updating, it was hot and battery was diminished. I had seen on another thread that most people had that happened so I didn't see it as an issue, just a side effect of the update process.
I have been checking back to see if anyone was having heating issues with 4.3 after the update and didn't hear about it until I had seen this thread. the OP stated he flashed .290 on his 6802 and is rooted. I am not, so I wasn't sure if the steps he was taking were the same given my 6833 being completely stock.
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Hey guys,
Currently I am using CM11 M9 snapshot, boeffla kernel, no OC/UV. But the problem occured even back on CM 10.2 Jelly Bean.
The phone randomly freezes when there is a lot going on (updates for example), also it becomes laggy after a while and needs a few minutes of quiet time. Even after a full wipe and only ROM install (no apps, no custom kernel) I sometimes ran into it freezing for a few seconds like it's working hard and then coming back. It seems to register touch commands and executes them "when it's back".
By now I have over 120 apps installed that I use from time to time. I thought having a big amount of apps does not matter since they're not running at the same time and even then the android memory management does a good job?
I am really confused, maybe I have broken hardware? Is there any way to test my hardware stability/quality? Could the CPU have degraded? Or the internal storage? What else can I do to my phone to "clean it up"? I thought a factory reset or FULL WIPE, clean install and trimming the storage is all I can do? I uninstalled the facebook app which seemed to help a little bit but I am still confused.
Would this help at all I wonder, but it's only for jelly bean.
I know there are multiple threads out on this but they all recommend "factory reset & clean install" which is what I did...
I really hope I did not make thread x-thousand on this case but I did not find anything related to "phone slow after factory reset".
Thanks in advance guys.:highfive:
Cant do anything
Behemoth1702 said:
Hey guys,
Currently I am using CM11 M9 snapshot, boeffla kernel, no OC/UV.
The phone randomly freezes when there is a lot going on (updates for example), also it becomes laggy after a while and needs a few minutes of quiet time. Even after a full wipe and only ROM install (no apps, no custom kernel) I sometimes ran into it freezing for a few seconds like it's working hard and then coming back. It seems to register touch commands and executes them "when it's back".
By now I have over 120 apps installed that I use from time to time. I thought having a big amount of apps does not matter since they're not running at the same time and even then the android memory management does a good job?
I am really confused, maybe I have broken hardware? What else can I do to my phone to "clean it up"? I thought a factory reset or FULL WIPE, clean install and trimming the storage is all I can do? I uninstalled the facebook app which seemed to help a little bit but I am still confused.
Would this help at all I wonder, but it's only for jelly bean.
I know there are multiple threads out on this but they all recommend "factory reset & clean install" which is what I did...
I really hope I did not make thread x-thousand on this case but I did not find anything related to "phone slow after factory reset".
Thanks in advance guys.:highfive:
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Propably thats M9 problem. Seems like every snapshot is getting worst and worst.
I added some information to the first post.
The problem occured even back on CM 10.2. It just started getting worse and worse over time. It was the reason I wiped and flashed CM11 M9. I do not feel a difference between the two.
But seriously, that freaking facebook app gone helps a lot.
Still, is there any way to test my hardware stability/quality? Could the CPU have degraded? Or the internal storage?
i dont really know
Behemoth1702 said:
I added some information to the first post.
The problem occured even back on CM 10.2. It just started getting worse and worse over time. It was the reason I wiped and flashed CM11 M9. I do not feel a difference between the two.
But seriously, that freaking facebook app gone helps a lot.
Still, is there any way to test my hardware stability/quality? Could the CPU have degraded? Or the internal storage?
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I dont think your hardware is degrading, try to to do a comlete wipe even the internal storage...anyway i didnt notice a big difference too. My s3 was slowed down since M8 and now M9 with this problems. Just switched to those s5 roms
PearOfSteel said:
I dont think your hardware is degrading, try to to do a comlete wipe even the internal storage...anyway i didnt notice a big difference too. My s3 was slowed down since M8 and now M9 with this problems. Just switched to those s5 roms
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Internal storage wipe -> format SD card?
Hmm, switching from CFQ from ROW scheduler really bumped up the performance.
I start to suspect that that dredded facebook app and the CFQ scheduler screwed my device. I will test some big apps/games now.
EDIT: Aaaand it's running pretty good. Mhh, I will continue monitoring.
Good
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im rooted n upgraded from 128 fw. I gets random reboots. Any fix this issue?
When does the reboots happen? When you do something specific, like playing heavy 3D games? Maybe overheating causes phone to restart. Have you checked temps of CPU?
ExtaSpace said:
When does the reboots happen? When you do something specific, like playing heavy 3D games? Maybe overheating causes phone to restart. Have you checked temps of CPU?
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totaly random
Is that the latest firmware available for your model?
I've experience random reboots as well after I flashed the pre-rooted TWRP with .167 system and kernel. I've also noticed that the phone reboots frequently when downloading apps in Google Play.
i had rr yesterday (always when phone goes to deepsleep) and solved with a factory reset, then installed one by one mods checking there are no reboots
Doing a clean install/flash, wiping dalvik cache, and bumping max cpu clock speed to 1.459 GHz and min to 400 GHz seem to fix the random reboots on my .167. I haven't had a rr for a week now.
Edit:
I was a doing a little more browsing and I think I found the solution over in the general forums. It sounds quite promising and seems like it's stood the test of time (which is 4 days that's been recorded) I'm in the middle of trying this method and I'll get back to you guys in a few days if it actually works.
Find the method here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/general/guide-fixing-random-gplay-app-install-t3338362
Good luck
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I've even had problems with random reboots on the stock 26.1.A.1.112 Commercial & Journalist version with nothing but being rooted. So i don't think it has to do with programs.
In my honest opinion the problem seems more to do with the stock roms having a problem with root on a bootloader locked m4 aqua.
The only thing that I know can almost certainly cause a reboot is updating apps on the play store. I'll usually have at least 1 reboot during that.
I've been fortunate enough this time around only receiving a reboot about once per day which is manageable for me but it's still an underlying issue.
Any new insights into this would be great. Maybe we can collaborate.
Likewise. Although i can sometimes get about 2 days without rebooting. But i do notice that the reboots are usually when updating apps,(though not always) or randomly when battery is fully or almost fully charged.
Currently on 3.111 rooted, xposed installed.
dagger1 said:
Likewise. Although i can sometimes get about 2 days without rebooting. But i do notice that the reboots are usually when updating apps,(though not always) or randomly when battery is fully or almost fully charged.
Currently on 3.111 rooted, xposed installed.
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Dude, try this! I've been running from a fresh install to having over 6-7GB of apps installed and my phones been on for hours now with no reboots.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/general/guide-fixing-random-gplay-app-install-t3338362
Thanks man. Bit of a hassle though. I might try it though when i have more time.
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Thanks man. Bit of a hassle though. I might try it though when i have more time.
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That's awesome. You won't regret it. I gave up on having root awhile ago because of the reboots and I'm so happy that this fix works. It feels so freeing!
If you need any help when you do go for it, feel free to message me.
Good luck!
mobbid said:
Doing a clean install/flash, wiping dalvik cache, and bumping max cpu clock speed to 1.459 GHz and min to 400 GHz seem to fix the random reboots on my .167. I haven't had a rr for a week now.
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How do you bump the cpu clock speed?