Calling those who use Ebay! - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Hi guys,
I put my transformer prime on ebay yesterday at a buy it now price of £350 which I thought was fair considering the prime's condition. Someone bought it within about 6 hours which was great, however, he only has 1 feedback for a saw he bought in 2011.
He sent me this message over ebay:
Hi mate, Glad I won your item. I'm currently in U.K at the moment. Please email me at [email protected], confirming the exact condition of the item. I will be going for an appointment will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email me at [email protected] using the item number as the subject. cheers
seems dodgy. Only in the UK for a bit? going for an appointment? Using a freeweb email address? His address checks out as being from the UK
I am aware of people reversing payment on paypal once theyve received the product and I don't know how to defend myself from that happening. I can't afford to be scammed as I'm a student and need the money to buy a laptop as my other one packed up yesterday.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers, Nick

Did he send payment? Did he pay with Paypal?
Just make sure that you ship the tablet with tracking and insurance. You might consider doing a proof of delivery (signature) as well. As long as you can prove it was delivered to the address he specified he can't come back later and say he never got the item. The tracking, signature confirmation and insurance all cost a few bucks extra, but when dealing with a $350 item and a dodgy customer they are well worth the extra fee.

nickkyboy36 said:
Hi guys,
I put my transformer prime on ebay yesterday at a buy it now price of £350 which I thought was fair considering the prime's condition. Someone bought it within about 6 hours which was great, however, he only has 1 feedback for a saw he bought in 2011.
He sent me this message over ebay:
Hi mate, Glad I won your item. I'm currently in U.K at the moment. Please email me at [email protected], confirming the exact condition of the item. I will be going for an appointment will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email me at [email protected] using the item number as the subject. cheers
seems dodgy. Only in the UK for a bit? going for an appointment? Using a freeweb email address? His address checks out as being from the UK
I am aware of people reversing payment on paypal once theyve received the product and I don't know how to defend myself from that happening. I can't afford to be scammed as I'm a student and need the money to buy a laptop as my other one packed up yesterday.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers, Nick
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I'd be concerned about wanting to "confirm the exact condition of the item". If he wanted to do that he should have contacted you before bidding, not after winning. Also, whatever precautions you may take, if he leaves the country after he has your hardware in hand, you will not have much recourse if things go sour later-even if you have all the documentation to prove your side of things. Any way you could get him to pay cash?
On the yahoo account, I wouldn't be too concerned about that. I know lots of people who use yahoo, gmail, etc as their primary email accounts. This keeps things so that your email account is not tied to your ISP and you can keep your address if you change service providers. Also, I personally keep a separate Gmail account that I only use on ebay so that I don't have to give out my "real" address which I only give to friends and family.

thanks for your replies guys,
no, I have not received any money into my paypal account and am waiting for a response from him. Just a quick question regarding postal insurance: Do I insure my tablet up to the value of £350 and receive that if it all goes wrong? Why doesn't everyone just claim things went missing and both parties win?
also to the guy above, that bothered me too. The item's condition was extensively detailed in my description with photos and everything
cheers, Nick

With insurance you specify the sale price of the item and if it goes missing you collect that amount of money from the postal service which you then use to repay the purchaser.
The reason that everyone doesn't just say things are "missing" is because doing so is a crime punishable with prison time if you are found out. Also, it is unlikely that you will be able to get a stranger to reliably lie for you.

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With insurance you specify the sale price of the item and if it goes missing you collect that amount of money from the postal service which you then use to repay the purchaser.
The reason that everyone doesn't just say things are "missing" is because doing so is a crime punishable with prison time if you are found out. Also, it is unlikely that you will be able to get a stranger to reliably lie for you.
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So Worst case scenario is the item goes missing in the post according to mr fraudulent purchaser and I collect cash from the post office?

nickkyboy36 said:
So Worst case scenario is the item goes missing in the post according to mr fraudulent purchaser and I collect cash from the post office?
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No. The worse case scenario is that you don't buy insurance and the package gets lost or damaged in which case you are out of a tablet and have to refund the $350 out of your own pocket because your item was never delivered.
(Total loss= Tablet + $$350)
2nd worst scenario is the tablet is lost, but you paid $5 (or whatever) for the shipping insurance so you don't have to refund the purchaser out of your own pocket but you are still missing a tablet.
(Total loss= Tablet + $5)
When shipping relatively expensive items overseas it is always worth paying an extra $10 or so to the shipping company for insurance, detailed tracking and signature confirmation. This is doubly true if you don't trust the buyer which seems to be the case with this guy.

I sell my prime with dock, with 399 euro. I buy this in aprile. 2years waranty. I never use this tablet, and i want to sell. I change 2 prime, for defective problems. This is OK. For link send PM.
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No. The worse case scenario is that you don't buy insurance and the package gets lost or damaged in which case you are out of a tablet and have to refund the $350 out of your own pocket because your item was never delivered.
(Total loss= Tablet + $$350)
2nd worst scenario is the tablet is lost, but you paid $5 (or whatever) for the shipping insurance so you don't have to refund the purchaser out of your own pocket but you are still missing a tablet.
(Total loss= Tablet + $5)
When shipping relatively expensive items overseas it is always worth paying an extra $10 or so to the shipping company for insurance, detailed tracking and signature confirmation. This is doubly true if you don't trust the buyer which seems to be the case with this guy.
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oh I see, thus keeping the cash the buyer has given me.

This does sound like a scam to me, I once had very similar emails when I advertised a car.
I wouldn't part with your Prime until you have the money safely. I don't think you're covered by eBay payment protection (because his feedback is low), but might be worth checking with eBay customer service how protected you are.
Good luck!
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nickkyboy36 said:
oh I see, thus keeping the cash the buyer has given me.
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Pretty much. According to eBay rules if your product was lost and not delivered you would have to refund them their money (Paypal would happily do it for them without your consent). If you bought insurance, the postal service would pay you the listed value of the tablet so you would get $350 (minus whatever you paid for insurance) and the purchaser would get their $350 back as well.
Insurance is ALWAYS worthwhile, especially for items over $100 and often for items as low as $30 if you have a bad feeling about the buyer.

I've used Ebay a LOT.
1 - Never send without a payment
2 - NEVER, I repeat NEVER EVER accept a payment through PayPal that they used a credit card to make. Reason? People claim that they were "frauded" and do a chargeback. PayPal retracts the money from you and you are out everything.
3 - If you receive a payment email from the buyer NEVER trust them. EVER. Go directly to your paypal through your web browser, never through their links. Reason? They have fake paypal pages set up to make you think you got the payment. I've seen this more times than I can count...it almost suckered me the first time it was that good.
4- ALWAYS get insurance, tracking number and mandatory signature upon delivery. DO NOT EVER send without any of these. Period.
5 - Make sure to ship through whatever government shipping options you have if available. Canada Post, USPS, whatever...this usually avoids brokerage fees (which you can apply to be your own broker and get the item anyway, but it's a headache and a HUGE scam shipping companies LOVE to employ for extra cash)
6 - If the guy says he's from somewhere reasonably local (UK, USA, Canada) then states "I am overseas working in Africa on a geological survey ship, can you please send to my cousin in Nigeria" tell him to **** off and repost it.
7 - EVERY fake buyer will send a template email "Thanks guy, I am happy to be winning your item off of ebay and can not wait to get it! I am so excited!", it never sounds conversational and never mentions the specific item. You can send them back an email that asks them specific questions and they'll answer with another template "Glad to hear from you, I will send the money requested and $50 extra dollars if you send the item as soon as possible through the fastest way".
If the person on the other end can't have a conversation, even in halted English, ignore them and move on. They are a scammer, usually from Africa, using templates to try to scam. Chances are they can't speak a lick of English, or even count. They entice with excited sounding emails offering extra money above and beyond the asking price, then send a fake email that they paid you with a link inside that takes you to a fake page.

This screams scam, I'd back away from it right now. If your selling on Ebay make sure you have someone with atleast 6 to 12 months history, and with a good rating. People will buy a bunch of crap $1 cables so they can raise up there rating and then start scamming on big name items.
When I sold my iPhone 3G years ago I ended up with someone offering to pay me and paypal but wanted me to ship to his Niece in another province... it was a gift and she'd be soooooo excited... apparently....
I walked away from that deal quickly.
Put it up on craigs list, meet in a public place and get cash.

I would run the other direction. This sounds no good.

Related

Dock price drop again....XDA market place

Just saw this site:
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...4-01-10-Zpad-DOCK-G-tablet-Dock-HDMI-LAN.html
They said about 15days to U.S
In my experience: 10days or so.
update(01/11(beijing time)) The price drop have been over.. maybe they will have the next point..
XDA marketplace..The thread of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883086
I usually ignore websites that advertise by yelling with three exclamation points. (!!!)
I'm not saying it's fake, it just bothers me.
I see.. I think so..
Please, one question: do you know if this dock is compatible with Advent Vega? Thanks!
I don't know if it is suitable
espariz said:
Please, one question: do you know if this dock is compatible with Advent Vega? Thanks!
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I dont know if it is compatible with Advent Vega. But the Advent Vega and Zpad looks Very similar.I think that might be malata OEM products.
You can find a guy who has the DOCK from UK. ask them this thing.
Says they cannot process commercial or business credit... I'm only trying to use a debit card. Odd. Maybe its automatically trying to run as credit because its a MasterCard as well? Bah.. oh well.
Why not paypal?
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Says they cannot process commercial or business credit... I'm only trying to use a debit card. Odd. Maybe its automatically trying to run as credit because its a MasterCard as well? Bah.. oh well.
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Why not pay it with paypal?
As far as I know, you can use the credit card (VISA or MasterCard) and paypal.
I do not know more
Just ordered one. Paid via PayPal. Thanks for the tipoff!
No body like this pirce???
xjarl said:
Ah, sorry to hear that. Why not pay it with paypal?
As far as I know, you can use the credit card (VISA or MasterCard) and paypal.
I do not know more
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That's true... I could use PayPal and have PayPal process from my card instead.. I stopped using PayPal because it wouldbtake forever to transfer money from my bank, but I forgot they gave that option now, which seems to work well. I'm going to order this weekend now.. lol thanks.
Edit: any comments on viewing angle and how steady the gtab is in this dock? I was thinking I might be able to throw some Velcro on the bottom of this thing and the dash of my car and use it as a car mount as well if it wasn't too obstructive to view. I always use it for music. Anything is safer than trying to quickly reach for my passenger seat at red lights. Lol
Based on my recent experience shopping with aliexpress.com, AKA AliBaba, i would recommend anyone to be very/very careful placing an order with them.
I placed my order on 12/11/10, paid by paypal and i am still waiting for item to arrive; the company has so far sent me three emails automatically extending the delivery date and i just asked for a refund; they extended the delivery date again.
What is strange is that the company uses what looks like the standard official paypal login screen; The money was taken out of my bank account with a paypal referral # and yet my account with paypal does not show such charge, so i am pretty sure i've been scammed of my money.
I just contacted paypal about this transaction and they must be investigating this merchant.
CAVEAT EMPTOR = BUYER BE AWARE !
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avfreak4ever said:
Based on my recent experience shopping with aliexpress.com, AKA AliBaba, i would recommend anyone to be very/very careful placing an order with them.
I placed my order on 12/11/10, paid by paypal and i am still waiting for item to arrive; the company has so far sent me three emails automatically extending the delivery date and i just asked for a refund; they extended the delivery date again.
What is strange is that the company uses what looks like the standard official paypal login screen; The money was taken out of my bank account with a paypal referral # and yet my account with paypal does not show such charge, so i am pretty sure i've been scammed of my money.
I just contacted paypal about this transaction and they must be investigating this merchant.
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There are many fraud companies. But I think all this will end soon. Because it2steve will give us surprises. You will get the desired product from him . And fast.
as long as you use aliexpress your money is pretty much safe!its when you deal with the manufacturer directly on alibaba.com u have to worry!! on ali express you dont release payment til you receive the item and verify it with aliexpress! and there is a feedback system like ebay on aliexpress im not saying its impossible to get scammed but alot harder!!! check it out remember alibaba you deal with the companies directly ali express your order goes through them and is like paypal in a way! your money doesnt get released til you verify you recived your order and its not damaged and works correctly!! if not you can open a dispute and get a refund or a discount!!
b3ltazar said:
as long as you use aliexpress your money is pretty much safe!its when you deal with the manufacturer directly on alibaba.com u have to worry!! on ali express you dont release payment til you receive the item and verify it with aliexpress! and there is a feedback system like ebay on aliexpress im not saying its impossible to get scammed but alot harder!!! check it out remember alibaba you deal with the companies directly ali express your order goes through them and is like paypal in a way! your money doesnt get released til you verify you recived your order and its not damaged and works correctly!! if not you can open a dispute and get a refund or a discount!!
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I too believe this to be true. In my (very few) dealings with with aliexpress its was very structured as far as if/when/how I received my product. The vendors there rely heavily on a feedback system much as ebay does.
I think the part that we all hate it the thought of waiting 21 days for our toys. I'm the same way which is why I paid 2 1/2 times what most are paying for my first dock. I wanted it and wanted it now.
The idea is to open a good line of communication with someone where the product is that is trustworthy, delivers, and sticks to it. I am personally working on getting some stock here (as well as APX_)for us but prefer not to speak about it until it's in my hand. That's just easier all the way around.
Ok guys, i'll ammend my post.
I was just contacted by Paypal who informed me that the transaction is listed with them as well as a referral number which, tried as i did, i could not find originally in my Paypal account, so i'll give the merchant the benefit of the doubt.
I understand the item is being shipped from China for a minimum shipping fee, but must this merchant start sending customers emails within one week of purchase with links to contest it ? So far i've received at least five such emails, which is unnerving...
Ordered mine, its easily the best deal I could find out there for the dock. Thanks for the heads-up on the price drop.
In my opinion, the aliexpress pay system seems to besecure so far, giving the seller a set time to ship the product of 3 days. Of course it sucks having to wait around 15 days for the item to arrive here from China.
UPDATE: 10 JAN 2011 10:27 PM PST - Just received the tracking number and the claim that the item has shipped. Doesn't look like a scam, but I'll feel better once the dock's in my hands.
I have a few extra docks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865038
keeping you guys updated!
No body want to get it directly from your place quickly but like to waiting a long time from far away? I don't think so...
So I ordered mine on the 10th, and received 2 tracking numbers, but none of them work. Has anyone else ordered from this and did they receive the products they ordered?
Its just been 2 weeks and I am getting nervous, I can at least count on paypal or alibaba to get me my money back if this was a scam I hope.
tuxnerd said:
So I ordered mine on the 10th, and received 2 tracking numbers, but none of them work. Has anyone else ordered from this and did they receive the products they ordered?
Its just been 2 weeks and I am getting nervous, I can at least count on paypal or alibaba to get me my money back if this was a scam I hope.
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This wasnt a dock ordered from me was it???
...sent from my ' un-stock' vibrant

skinomi skin protector available on ebay for $1

a brand new skinomi skin protector is up on ebay starting at $1, buy it now at $25 - comes with some extras too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120717153709
buy it now at $25 + $10 shipping ?!?
btw, I hope you know that the life warranty you advertise on your listing IS NOT TRANSFERABLE to whomever buys the skin from you.
aasoror said:
buy it now at $25 + $10 shipping ?!?
btw, I hope you know that the life warranty you advertise on your listing IS NOT TRANSFERABLE to whomever buys the skin from you.
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i believe the warranty is transferable.
sundar2012 said:
i believe the warranty is transferable.
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I believe you believe wrong.
The only reason they ask you to include the original receipt/invoice is to verify that he who has made the order is the same one requesting the replacement.
Unless you have verified otherwise with them, this was the last info I was told when I inquired about the lifetime warranty transferability.
Step 1: Replacement form
Fill out the product replacement form.
Step 2: Request your replacement
Fax the product replacment form along with a copy of the invoice/receipt containing your Skinomi product purchase to (909) 236-5055.
Step 3: Shipping your replacement
Your replacement Techskin is free of charge. A shipping and handling fee will apply for all replacements.
Step 4: Send back the original
Send back your original TechSkin along with the order invoice/registration number once you receive the replacement. If you do not send back the original, that item will be void of the Liftetime Replacement Guarantee and be disqualified for any future replacements. Please send your original TechSkin and order invoice/registration number to:
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$10 shipping????? I live in Queens, can I pick it up from you?
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$10 shipping????? I live in Queens, can I pick it up from you?
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That is because i only ship via UPS. USPS is an unconstitutional government tax funded entity and frankly delivers terrible service. Sure they are cheaper - but not when you take your tax return into account. You also wouldnt get a tracking number with USPS.
Minimum shipping on UPS ground is $11 - throw in an envelope + taxes and its actually $12. If you bid $10 on the auction and you end up paying $20, well that's a fair price for a $30 product (throwing in extras too). I guarantee if you win I'll keep the money (less pay pal fees) and u can pick it up from me so that there is no hassle with delivery. if you lose, no skin off your back.
HMmmm
So you complain that you've already paid taxes to subsidize USPS, so you don't use the cheaper service you already helped fund and instead use the service thats twice as expensive?
Also, you can fedex envelopes for pretty cheap. 5 bucks will move it around the country. I fedex things for work all the time. I usps things a lot too.
Also, the usps really doesn't get all that much money from the government.
The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies.
Under federal law, only the Postal Service can handle or charge postage for handling letters. Despite this virtual monopoly worth some $45 billion a year, the law does not require that the Postal Service make a profit -- only break even. Still, the US Postal Service has averaged a profit of over $1 billion per year in each of the last five years. Yet, Postal Service officials argue that they must continue to raise postage at regular intervals in order make up for the increased use of email.
So your excuse for charging 10$ to ship a small plastic tube doesn't really hold water.
Wow, I can tell you have never listed on eBay before thats for sure. Sorry I don't mean to be insulting.
My question to you, how are people going to find said skin if you don't actually put in the product title that it fits the gtab?
You do know skinomi makes skins for products other then the Viewsonic gTablet right?
sundar2012 said:
I guarantee if you win I'll keep the money (less pay pal fees) and u can pick it up from me so that there is no hassle with delivery. if you lose, no skin off your back.
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The reason he want to pick up is he needs to save the delivery money and not the delivery hassle.
I am not sure if it was clear whether or not you are offering free local pickup, but if you do I would suggest adding it to your shipping methods and to the listing itself, this should certainly make your auction more appealing for many.
I also second the poster above me who suggested revising the title to include "gtab"
Best of luck,
its my second listing on ebay
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So you complain that you've already paid taxes to subsidize USPS, so you don't use the cheaper service you already helped fund and instead use the service thats twice as expensive?
Also, you can fedex envelopes for pretty cheap. 5 bucks will move it around the country. I fedex things for work all the time. I usps things a lot too.
Also, the usps really doesn't get all that much money from the government.
The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies.
Under federal law, only the Postal Service can handle or charge postage for handling letters. Despite this virtual monopoly worth some $45 billion a year, the law does not require that the Postal Service make a profit -- only break even. Still, the US Postal Service has averaged a profit of over $1 billion per year in each of the last five years. Yet, Postal Service officials argue that they must continue to raise postage at regular intervals in order make up for the increased use of email.
So your excuse for charging 10$ to ship a small plastic tube doesn't really hold water.
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USPS is not a constitutional entity and I try my best to avoid supporting it in anyway.
i think it is will be goo for my tablet

Play.com (UK) 16GB/32GB - full price/discounted price - VICTORY! now refunding!!

Hi guys, I though it would be a good idea to start a threat just for everyone who placed an order through Play.com UK and paid full price.
We can use this thread to keep everyone updated on the progress of their ordered, and any updates etc; whether they are able to get it at the discounted price, full refund, partial refund etc.
I ordered a 16GB this morning at 8:30am, and order was confimed at 2:44pm and sent to packing for delivery.
Price - £349
ordered at about 5am this morning
order confirmed at 05:57
packed at about 4pm this afternoon
16GB @ £349
Mailed them asking to cancel and advised I will source elsewhere for a much cheaper price... (I imagine its too late though)
Looks like Play.com are out of stock now. I can't find the HP touchpad 16/32gb anywhere on their site. It was there a few hours ago.
I'm also waiting on a Touchpad from play.com which I bought at full price earlier today.
My gut instinct having dealt with Play earlier on similiar issues is that we'll all be returning our TP's for a full refund
Still I'm going to remain optimistic..
Lothaen said:
ordered at about 5am this morning
order confirmed at 05:57
packed at about 4pm this afternoon
16GB @ £349
Mailed them asking to cancel and advised I will source elsewhere for a much cheaper price... (I imagine its too late though)
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I'd recommend not cancelling your order just yet.
you'll be in a better position to negotiate with them once you have the product.
If you cancel before they despatch it, they won't lose anything, they'll just send it to someone else who was able to place an order.
Once you've got it, hopefully we'll be in a better position a few days after all this commotion, and they may be willing to refund the difference.
otherwise they have to go through the hassle or receiving product back, and then arranging to sell it on - probably at the reduced price.
I'm going to wait to see if mine actually comes through, then assess the situation then.
If they don't openly offer the refund, I'll put a complaint to them, and to the FSA.
their returns policy gives you 7 days to request the return or raise an issue - this is different to 7 days to actually return the item to them.
The complaint etc could last as long as you want, as long as you raise the issue within 7 days.
we should have a strong argument if we refer them to the fact they were aware on Monday that the supplier had significantly reduced the price, and that a large number of supplier not just in UK, but all across the world had reduced their prices to fall in line, and they are being unfair against the consumer by acting this way.
We could also quote things we can get - regarding their comments on Monday evening that they were aware of the price discount and were working on it, yet they chose to do nothing.
Ordered as mine was in my cart, however at time of checkout it stated not in stock.
I doubt I'll get it. however I'm also one of the wait and see's
There may be hope for us yet.
In the US - HP have agreed to refund customers the difference of all ordered purchased within 60 days of the price change.
HP are also 'leaning' on companies to offer the price match themselves.
So if Play.com don't crumble under the pressure over the next few days - maybe there is hope from HP directly.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ne...efund-price-differences-for-early-buyers/3857
HP apparantly informed retailers on Monday that the prices will be reduced, and requested that all retailers offer to refund the difference in the sale price.
HP also advise that it can take a few days for all retailers to act on this.
called play.com in the end and they said it was too late to stop dispatch anyway (wanted to save myself a couple of £ in postage to be honest) - they have sent me my return code and marked it as potential return
so i still have to wait for it anyway...
but the chap I spoke to I did would they not do a price comparison, or are they even considering lowering the price but he said nope. Full refund or keep at full price basically.
@danlat1415 - do you have any of that information or anyway to process that with HP as I'll consider keeping it if thats the case! I wonder if we can ping an e-mail to HP pronto to try and get some clarification from them that we can apply for refunds if the retailer won't honour it...
If I was HP and I'd told everyone to cut the price on Monday, and found out retailers were basically ignoring them (probably to pocket the profits) I'd be a bit peeved -
out of this experience, I'll definitely not be considering Play.com for anything further apart from as a last resort...
sounds like @Analogue Dude has had a similar experience before... that's the feeling I am getting now too.
I'm looking into what HP are doing for UK customers and I'll keep you updated.
It's still very early, and once order are sent out and customers start complaining in large numbers - they may change their mind.
Also depends on what action HP take over the next few days.
Play.com don't want to get bad publicity, and if all other retailers are honouring the price change, it'll be bad for Play.com to try and profit from the limited stock they have - compare to the bad publicity they'll get.
I've been hunting around the net, and this isn't the only forum complaining about Play.com's decision, so strength in numbers...
I guess the only real outside chance of getting a partial refund is if every customer who bought a TP from them returns it this week. Hopefully the logistical nightmare/expense of checking every return will push Play into offering the refunds.
As I said earlier I doubt it happens though, Play are a horrible company to do business with, I haven't used them for years and if it wasn't for this deal I wouldn't have touched them with a foot long stylus.
I'd recommend anyone who has ordered from Play.com to complete the form on the attached link for the BBC Watchdog program.
we may not get anywhere with it, but it's best to put as much pressure as we can on Play.com to honour the discounted price.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
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I guess the only real outside chance of getting a partial refund is if every customer who bought a TP from them returns it this week. Hopefully the logistical nightmare/expense of checking every return will push Play into offering the refunds.
As I said earlier I doubt it happens though, Play are a horrible company to do business with, I haven't used them for years and if it wasn't for this deal I wouldn't have touched them with a foot long stylus.
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Really hope so or HP kick their ass (which I doubt will happen)
I got the impression of a very non-caring company when I called them up - to be honest, I had a good impression of them before - but only used them a handful of times... I guess its because I never had to _deal_ with them properly before and just did an order which came and had no issues...
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I'd recommend anyone who has ordered from Play.com to complete the form on the attached link for the BBC Watchdog program.
we may not get anywhere with it, but it's best to put as much pressure as we can on Play.com to honour the discounted price.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
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done that - not sure how much help it will give though...
i also wonder though is it worth putting in a 'request to return' with play for everyone's who order has dispatched ? its too late to cancel, but if they have a _lot_ of requests to return and the main reason being the stupid prices... ?
Don't suppose there is a HP email addy to send concerns to? Wonder if they can confirm or deny possible refunds...
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As far as I know, Argos and Play.com were the only two retailers that hadn't yet offered the lower price (whether it be for a limited time, like Amazon)
But Argos has this morning now caved in and reduced their prices to £89 and £115.
This will hopefully help in the fight against Play.com
they are now the only hightreet retailer trying to greatly profit from this sale.
I'm waiting for an update from HP and I'll let you know. Waiting to hear back from their press office.
So far they have only confirmed that they'll refund direct customers, and credit the retailers.
Just waiting to find out if their credit customers of retailers who are refusing to refund the difference.
(if the retailer are being credited by HP, then they are severely taking advantage of the customer.)
As more developments happen each day, hopefully by the time the Touchpads arrive it'll all either be sorted or a lot clearer.
had an email from play.com this morning saying they would not refund the difference and only option was to keep or send it back for a full refund.... will post the email in a few
was looking for an e-mail form for hp too to submit my disappointment with play
Thank you for your reply.
We regret to inform you that we are not able to process a partial refund should there be a change of price for HP TouchPad 16GB webOS 3.0 WiFi 9.7 inch Tablet PC but we are more than willing accept the item back upon receipt for full refund.
We have two options to process a refund for this order.
First is to allow 15 banking days delivery time frame to take effect so we can provide a Not Received Claim Form and the second is to return the item upon receipt. The latter option will require a Returns Authorisation code which we will be happy to provide as soon as you contact us.
You also have the option to print a pre-payed label on-line. In order for you to return an order, please follow the step by step procedure which can be found on the link below:
http://www.play.com/Help.html?page=retn
This will prompt you to sign in on your PLAY.com account and choose the order you need to return.
We hope that this information is of some help to you. Please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience this matter has caused you and thank you for your patience and valued custom.
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I just logged into my Play account and my order is now showing as cancelled with today's date beside it.
Card payment had gone through so I wonder what they're playing at
I'd suggest that we go protest outside Play HQ but I don't fancy going to jail for a touchpad (maybe an ipad....)
Brad from HP support said to contact UK HP support on 020 7660 0950
not really very helpful so far... i will check my play.com order - but i got an email saying it was dispatched
Lothaen said:
Brad from HP support said to contact UK HP support on 020 7660 0950
not really very helpful so far... i will check my play.com order - but i got an email saying it was dispatched
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Thank for the update.
I too have got an email this morning confirming my order has been despatched via DHL and I've got a tracking number.
expect it to take upto 5 working days to be delivered, then I have 7 days for receipt to inform them if I wish to return for full refund.
That's approx 8-13 days to get this resolved and to put pressure on Play.com

Getting ripped off/scammed on eBay.

Hi everyone, I was looking forward to join the I717 community but sadly, I don't think I'll be getting my Note because of some ******* who decided to rip off people thru ebay, I was so happy by the fact that I was getting a new Note, and now I'm trying to get my money back and the guy keeps giving excuses, ebay told me to wait until Saturday to open a didn't receive item case, but for what I know is gonna take some time, the bad thing is that I sold my Sensation and my T-Mobile's Galaxy S2 to be able to buy the Note and now I'm stuck with a Prepaid LG Flip phone. Beware when using ebay, don't wanna end up like me. Bad thing $600
Anyone here can point me on the right direction...
Dispute! If you paid with Paypal then you'll most likely recover your money.
Nothing you can do but wait.
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Yes, I did used Paypal, guess youre right all I can do is wait... which is not easy when you spend that kind of amount, I am an a 28yr. DoD veteran (Sadly, because of an accident) I've dealt with situations that I never thought I'll ever witness, but I never been played like that.
djxcee said:
Dispute! If you paid with Paypal then you'll most likely recover your money.
Nothing you can do but wait.
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Buyers are always covered. Which is tough for selling. But it gives buyers some confidence that they have some sort of recourse. Without buyers ebay can't survive, even with millions of sellers
Only way the seller can win the dispute, is if he can show tracking signature delivery to the registered pay pal address.
It takes 10 days at least, sorry to hear you have to go through this, it will just take some patience.
Try not to instigate or piss the seller off. Just keep it cool and let ebay/paypal work for you. At times they may end up sending you the item damaged on purpose, then the claiming gets harder.
I used Ebay to get mine and they were a great seller i believe their name was cellstoreusa and also got a 2 year squaretrade warranty as well I would just say next time make sure you are buying from those sellers who have the highest ratings, Im sorry this happened to you though i hope you get your money back
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Only way the seller can win the dispute, is if he can show tracking signature delivery to the registered pay pal address.
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From what I heard, you have to use eBay for shipping in order for eBay to trust your tracking information. If you shipping the stuff youself without using eBay to produce shipping labels, you are SOL.
Not true.you have to use a shipper that provides online tracking our a method where deliver can be confirmed. You can use USPS with delivery confirmation, UPS with tracking, Fed Ex, DHL, etc.as long add you can show that it had tracking and show proof it was delivered via online for example. I am a Powerseller on EBay btw.
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adelmundo said:
Not true.you have to use a shipper that provides online tracking our a method where deliver can be confirmed. You can use USPS with delivery confirmation, UPS with tracking, Fed Ex, DHL, etc.as long add you can show that it had tracking and show proof it was delivered via online for example. I am a Powerseller on EBay btw.
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I'm not a powerseller. But I have around 56 feedback. 100% positive. This guy speaks the truth. you'll get your money back.
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Don't worry. You will get your money back, but it will take some time. I got scammed some years ago. It took a few weeks of going back and forth with ebay, paypal, and the seller. Paypal finally awarded me the money. But (at that time) they could only award me from money that was in his account. That may have changed. Best of luck.
Can't provide any direction, but I"ll chime in with my own Note from ebay experience.
Won one on ebay last month, posted as "brand new". When I received it; no stylus, aftermarket rear cover, and aftermarket battery. Most likely stolen Returned and still waiting on refund.
Had a similar experience... Long time ago with a 300+ dollar phone
Hit that bastard up with a paypal claim.. No seller likes those. Keep all emails and records of attempts to contact. You are protected via paypal "xxxx.xx" amount of dollars
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Do you have a link to the listing?
*USPS with "signature" delivery confirmation. To the verified shipping address on record with Pay Pal.
h0tw1r3 said:
Can't provide any direction, but I"ll chime in with my own Note from ebay experience.
Won one on ebay last month, posted as "brand new". When I received it; no stylus, aftermarket rear cover, and aftermarket battery. Most likely stolen Returned and still waiting on refund.
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Sorry to hear that, sounds like you may have been sold a Best Buy demo unit. Those are usually missing the Stylus, battery door, but everything can be bought OEM except the box. No box to compare the IMEI usually is cause to be alert and weary.
I was offered a phone in that condition, while testing it, it would go into the orange demo screen and randomly show feature videos. But it can be reset via recovery.
I mostly buy my devices locally on Craigslist. Usually cheaper than ebay and I get to really test it out before paying. Not say youre guaranteed anything tho. Still a risk. YMMV
I've always wondered, how would PayPal get you your money back if the seller just closed their account (banking account)? Do they actually come out of pocket for you?
Yes they do..
beall49 said:
I've always wondered, how would PayPal get you your money back if the seller just closed their account (banking account)? Do they actually come out of pocket for you?
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years ago you were sol..not sure how it works now.
If OP paid by CC or bank to paypal to seller you can dispute the charge through them
If you paid with funds already in your paypal account you have to wait through the process unfortunately (a good reason why I always pay via one of my credit cards, and not my paypal balance)
Here is the link for the listing... It was listed as brand new/unopened, thanks everyone for the help and support.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-S...Cell_Phones&hash=item231bbca264#ht_500wt_1156
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Do you have a link to the listing?
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I just sold my Iphone on Ebay and they are so anal about protecting the buyer, I was upset on how long I had to wait to get my money. Now I'm not that upset about it. If you do exactly what they want and either use Ebay to print yor shipping label or upload your tracking data immediatley, there's no way to get ripped off except maybe for missing items or defects. I didn't get my money until Ebay got confirmation of delivery. I then had to wait 4 days to get my money from Paypal. I don't know what takes so long for Paypal unless they try to mske a couple days interest off my money.
what if the sends a fake package with signature confim with nothing inside?
shaolinx said:
what if the sends a fake package with signature confim with nothing inside?
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You take pics of the label...which shows the weight. ..and of the box open and empty
Thur u arrrrrrgh

Staples Protection Plan for the Nexus 10

I'm looking at getting the Nexus 10 here pretty soon (possibly next paycheck) but I would very much like to play with it first. The idiots at Walmart can never give me a consistent answer if they have them or not and whenever I show up they have no idea what I'm talking about. So I called Staples and the guy said he's getting them in next week and sounded about as excited as I am (hooray for Techies!).
So I asked him about the protection plan and he said it is $84 for accidental damage coverage but he literally said that they cannot refuse me wanting a replacement or a gift card for compensation for any reason. He said it's basically in the terms of service that if I bring the tablet in and want a replacement (not like a 14-day refund/replacement though, but within a year) that they will replace it on the spot no questions asked. He even said basically "and when the new one comes out like a year from now you can bring it in and get a gift card for it and get the new one no problems."
That sounds amazing. That's like future-proofing my tablet for an extra 84 bucks. Anybody out there get one from Staples? And did you get the protection plan? Is it really how he described it? It almost sounds too good to be true but he sounded confident in it.
What do y'all think?
MrSteez said:
I'm looking at getting the Nexus 10 here pretty soon (possibly next paycheck) but I would very much like to play with it first. The idiots at Walmart can never give me a consistent answer if they have them or not and whenever I show up they have no idea what I'm talking about. So I called Staples and the guy said he's getting them in next week and sounded about as excited as I am (hooray for Techies!).
So I asked him about the protection plan and he said it is $84 for accidental damage coverage but he literally said that they cannot refuse me wanting a replacement or a gift card for compensation for any reason. He said it's basically in the terms of service that if I bring the tablet in and want a replacement (not like a 14-day refund/replacement though, but within a year) that they will replace it on the spot no questions asked. He even said basically "and when the new one comes out like a year from now you can bring it in and get a gift card for it and get the new one no problems."
That sounds amazing. That's like future-proofing my tablet for an extra 84 bucks. Anybody out there get one from Staples? And did you get the protection plan? Is it really how he described it? It almost sounds too good to be true but he sounded confident in it.
What do y'all think?
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What you wrote does not agree with this:
http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/programs/serviceplans/
While I am not sure it is needed, I got an extended warranty from Squaretrade for $60 after a 40% discount.
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I'd read the fine print for yourself and make sure the guy isn't just trying to sell you a "warranty". I bought my Nexus at Walmart and initially bought the $44 protection plan. After getting home and actually reading it (I was too excited at the time that they actually had an N10 in stock) I went back to get a refund for it and they actually did it. Seems all it provided was a repair service.
If the Staples protection plan is what the guy explained, sounds like a good deal.
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ljg600 said:
What you wrote does not agree with this:
http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/programs/serviceplans/
While I am not sure it is needed, I got an extended warranty from Squaretrade for $60 after a 40% discount.
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How did you get the 40% discount?
CaliLove310 said:
How did you get the 40% discount?
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At the time, and perhaps still the case- discount coupons were being sold on Ebay for $1-$2. Also, if you "Like" Squaretrade on FB- they may still offer a discount- but then you risk upsetting your friends who may be hit with their ads.
Worth Avenue offers competitive prices as well. As indicated, one could make the case that these warranties are a waste of money- factoring in the cost of used devices as replacements in the second coverage year, existing manufacturer coverage- as well as any deductibles.
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The way the warranty works at staples. You have 15 days with Staples from time of purchase to exchange or return your Nexus 10. After this you have the one year warranty with Samsung. If you purchase the protection plan with staples within 15 days of purchase of the Nexus 10 then this warranty begins when Samsungs ends.
If in the one year of protection under Staples after Samsungs warranty is up and you have a problem then you call the 1-800 number on the brochure they give you when you purchase your warranty. When you call them, you tell them it doesn't work (don't ask about repairt). Then will either Email or your send you the full purchase price(excluding tax) in form of a gift card to be used at Staples. You can take this gift card and purchase whatever at Staples even you if don't purchase another tablet.
The most important part of the protection plan is registering right after purchase. Call the number or go to the website listed and register the protection plan. Take the register and put in your Nexus 10 box and keep both for two years.
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The way the warranty works at staples. You have 15 days with Staples from time of purchase to exchange or return your Nexus 10. After this you have the one year warranty with Samsung. If you purchase the protection plan with staples within 15 days of purchase of the Nexus 10 then this warranty begins when Samsungs ends.
If in the one year of protection under Staples after Samsungs warranty is up and you have a problem then you call the 1-800 number on the brochure they give you when you purchase your warranty. When you call them, you tell them it doesn't work (don't ask about repairt). Then will either Email or your send you the full purchase price(excluding tax) in form of a gift card to be used at Staples. You can take this gift card and purchase whatever at Staples even you if don't purchase another tablet.
The most important part of the protection plan is registering right after purchase. Call the number or go to the website listed and register the protection plan. Take the register and put in your Nexus 10 box and keep both for two years.
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Ugh. Is this seriously how it works? That sucks. So I want the one that covers accidental damage (if it were to crack or something) but would that not kick in til one year after I have the tablet? If this is seriously how the plan works then that's dumb.
TBH I'm probably only going to have the tablet for a year and then get a newer model. Maayyybbeee longer.
Even the accidental one doesn't kick in til after samsung ends. So basically you can upgrade your tablet after one year.
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JediSooner said:
I'd read the fine print for yourself and make sure the guy isn't just trying to sell you a "warranty". I bought my Nexus at Walmart and initially bought the $44 protection plan. After getting home and actually reading it (I was too excited at the time that they actually had an N10 in stock) I went back to get a refund for it and they actually did it. Seems all it provided was a repair service.
If the Staples protection plan is what the guy explained, sounds like a good deal.
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I bought my Nexus 10 at Walmart specifically for the $44 protection plan. (I haven't picked it up yet - it's at a far-away Walmart. I'll get it on Sunday.) I thought it looked like a good deal - about the same terms as Square Trade, but for less than half the price. What's wrong with it? If the screen cracks or I spill tea on it, they will fix or replace it for me. And I don't have to deal with Samsung, even during the manufacturer's warranty period, which I've heard is unfun. Seems pretty good to me.
permutations said:
I bought my Nexus 10 at Walmart specifically for the $44 protection plan. (I haven't picked it up yet - it's at a far-away Walmart. I'll get it on Sunday.) I thought it looked like a good deal - about the same terms as Square Trade, but for less than half the price. What's wrong with it? If the screen cracks or I spill tea on it, they will fix or replace it for me. And I don't have to deal with Samsung, even during the manufacturer's warranty period, which I've heard is unfun. Seems pretty good to me.
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I think what everyone is talking about is that the protection plan is "good" but it doesn't kick in apparently til after the first year of having the tablet because there is already a year warranty from Samsung. If that's right though then it seems stupid because what happens if you crack your tablet before the year is up? Seems counter-intuitive
I have purchased the staples warranty on two items. One being a $200 chair which I called over a year later and they told me to toss it and sent me a gift card for $200. Used it to buy a canon digital camera. I tried claiming warranty on it but they asked what was wrong with it and to send it in for repairs. There was nothing wrong so I didn't send it in, just thought maybe they would send me a new gift card which they didn't. I'm not sure if I was under canon warranty at the time or not. Staples is suppose to get a shipment of N10s tomorrow and I may get the warranty with it since I have had success with it before with the chair.
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MrSteez said:
I think what everyone is talking about is that the protection plan is "good" but it doesn't kick in apparently til after the first year of having the tablet because there is already a year warranty from Samsung. If that's right though then it seems stupid because what happens if you crack your tablet before the year is up? Seems counter-intuitive
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Actually, this is incorrect. It takes effect from the moment you buy the plan, and you can only buy the plan within 30 days of buying the tablet. I bought it the same day. Here's the description (copied and pasted):
http://www.walmart.com/ip/2-Year-Dr...lan-for-Tablets-and-iPads-400-499.99/21556980
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2 Year Drop, Spill and Cracked Screen Service Plan for Tablets and iPads $400 - $499.99
Get long-term peace of mind for your Tablet with a Product Care Plan. If your product has a covered failure during the Plan's term, we'll repair or replace it. We cover 100% of the repair costs. There are no deductibles or hidden fees.
2 years of protection for your Tablet begins the moment you purchase your Plan.
We enhance and extend the manufacturer's warranty.*
Our Product Care Plan provides more coverage than the manufacturer's warranty, such as failures due to:
•Accidental Damage from Handling, such as spills, drops and cracked screens
•Power surges
•Defects in materials and workmanship
•Mechanical or electrical failures, including those due to normal wear and tear
•Internal heat, dust and humidity
This plan provides 2 years of coverage from the date of purchase.
Learn more about our Product Care Plans
Your Product Care Plan also includes:
3-day Service Guaranteed, or your money back.
If your product has a covered failure, we'll repair it within 3 days of receiving it. See the "Learn more about our Product Care Plans" link above for more details.
Transferable Coverage. If you sell your product or give it to someone as a gift, your Product Care Plan and all of its benefits are fully transferable to the new owner, so it maintains its value.
Accidents happen. Take comfort knowing that your purchase is protected from accidental drops, spills and cracked screens from day one.
How the plan works:
•Add the Product Care Plan to your shopping cart.
•Your product is covered the moment you complete your purchase.
•Within two business days, you will receive an email with Plan details.
•If you need to make a claim, call us 24 / 7 / 365 at 1-877-968-6391. Just have your order confirmation emails handy when you call.
Important information:
•Products need to be purchased from either Walmart.com or a Walmart store.
•You can purchase this Product Care Plan for any eligible product up to 30 days after purchase, as long as you have the original Walmart product receipt.
•We may fulfill your claim by providing you with a new, remanufactured or refurbished product with similar features and functionality, or a Walmart Gift Card for the original purchase price of the product (including taxes).
*Limitations and exclusions apply. See Terms and Conditions for complete program details.
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