Hi everyone, I was looking forward to join the I717 community but sadly, I don't think I'll be getting my Note because of some ******* who decided to rip off people thru ebay, I was so happy by the fact that I was getting a new Note, and now I'm trying to get my money back and the guy keeps giving excuses, ebay told me to wait until Saturday to open a didn't receive item case, but for what I know is gonna take some time, the bad thing is that I sold my Sensation and my T-Mobile's Galaxy S2 to be able to buy the Note and now I'm stuck with a Prepaid LG Flip phone. Beware when using ebay, don't wanna end up like me. Bad thing $600
Anyone here can point me on the right direction...
Dispute! If you paid with Paypal then you'll most likely recover your money.
Nothing you can do but wait.
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Yes, I did used Paypal, guess youre right all I can do is wait... which is not easy when you spend that kind of amount, I am an a 28yr. DoD veteran (Sadly, because of an accident) I've dealt with situations that I never thought I'll ever witness, but I never been played like that.
djxcee said:
Dispute! If you paid with Paypal then you'll most likely recover your money.
Nothing you can do but wait.
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Buyers are always covered. Which is tough for selling. But it gives buyers some confidence that they have some sort of recourse. Without buyers ebay can't survive, even with millions of sellers
Only way the seller can win the dispute, is if he can show tracking signature delivery to the registered pay pal address.
It takes 10 days at least, sorry to hear you have to go through this, it will just take some patience.
Try not to instigate or piss the seller off. Just keep it cool and let ebay/paypal work for you. At times they may end up sending you the item damaged on purpose, then the claiming gets harder.
I used Ebay to get mine and they were a great seller i believe their name was cellstoreusa and also got a 2 year squaretrade warranty as well I would just say next time make sure you are buying from those sellers who have the highest ratings, Im sorry this happened to you though i hope you get your money back
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Only way the seller can win the dispute, is if he can show tracking signature delivery to the registered pay pal address.
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From what I heard, you have to use eBay for shipping in order for eBay to trust your tracking information. If you shipping the stuff youself without using eBay to produce shipping labels, you are SOL.
Not true.you have to use a shipper that provides online tracking our a method where deliver can be confirmed. You can use USPS with delivery confirmation, UPS with tracking, Fed Ex, DHL, etc.as long add you can show that it had tracking and show proof it was delivered via online for example. I am a Powerseller on EBay btw.
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Not true.you have to use a shipper that provides online tracking our a method where deliver can be confirmed. You can use USPS with delivery confirmation, UPS with tracking, Fed Ex, DHL, etc.as long add you can show that it had tracking and show proof it was delivered via online for example. I am a Powerseller on EBay btw.
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I'm not a powerseller. But I have around 56 feedback. 100% positive. This guy speaks the truth. you'll get your money back.
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Don't worry. You will get your money back, but it will take some time. I got scammed some years ago. It took a few weeks of going back and forth with ebay, paypal, and the seller. Paypal finally awarded me the money. But (at that time) they could only award me from money that was in his account. That may have changed. Best of luck.
Can't provide any direction, but I"ll chime in with my own Note from ebay experience.
Won one on ebay last month, posted as "brand new". When I received it; no stylus, aftermarket rear cover, and aftermarket battery. Most likely stolen Returned and still waiting on refund.
Had a similar experience... Long time ago with a 300+ dollar phone
Hit that bastard up with a paypal claim.. No seller likes those. Keep all emails and records of attempts to contact. You are protected via paypal "xxxx.xx" amount of dollars
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Do you have a link to the listing?
*USPS with "signature" delivery confirmation. To the verified shipping address on record with Pay Pal.
h0tw1r3 said:
Can't provide any direction, but I"ll chime in with my own Note from ebay experience.
Won one on ebay last month, posted as "brand new". When I received it; no stylus, aftermarket rear cover, and aftermarket battery. Most likely stolen Returned and still waiting on refund.
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Sorry to hear that, sounds like you may have been sold a Best Buy demo unit. Those are usually missing the Stylus, battery door, but everything can be bought OEM except the box. No box to compare the IMEI usually is cause to be alert and weary.
I was offered a phone in that condition, while testing it, it would go into the orange demo screen and randomly show feature videos. But it can be reset via recovery.
I mostly buy my devices locally on Craigslist. Usually cheaper than ebay and I get to really test it out before paying. Not say youre guaranteed anything tho. Still a risk. YMMV
I've always wondered, how would PayPal get you your money back if the seller just closed their account (banking account)? Do they actually come out of pocket for you?
Yes they do..
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I've always wondered, how would PayPal get you your money back if the seller just closed their account (banking account)? Do they actually come out of pocket for you?
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years ago you were sol..not sure how it works now.
If OP paid by CC or bank to paypal to seller you can dispute the charge through them
If you paid with funds already in your paypal account you have to wait through the process unfortunately (a good reason why I always pay via one of my credit cards, and not my paypal balance)
Here is the link for the listing... It was listed as brand new/unopened, thanks everyone for the help and support.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-S...Cell_Phones&hash=item231bbca264#ht_500wt_1156
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Do you have a link to the listing?
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I just sold my Iphone on Ebay and they are so anal about protecting the buyer, I was upset on how long I had to wait to get my money. Now I'm not that upset about it. If you do exactly what they want and either use Ebay to print yor shipping label or upload your tracking data immediatley, there's no way to get ripped off except maybe for missing items or defects. I didn't get my money until Ebay got confirmation of delivery. I then had to wait 4 days to get my money from Paypal. I don't know what takes so long for Paypal unless they try to mske a couple days interest off my money.
what if the sends a fake package with signature confim with nothing inside?
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what if the sends a fake package with signature confim with nothing inside?
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You take pics of the label...which shows the weight. ..and of the box open and empty
Thur u arrrrrrgh
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Just saw this site:
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...4-01-10-Zpad-DOCK-G-tablet-Dock-HDMI-LAN.html
They said about 15days to U.S
In my experience: 10days or so.
update(01/11(beijing time)) The price drop have been over.. maybe they will have the next point..
XDA marketplace..The thread of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883086
I usually ignore websites that advertise by yelling with three exclamation points. (!!!)
I'm not saying it's fake, it just bothers me.
I see.. I think so..
Please, one question: do you know if this dock is compatible with Advent Vega? Thanks!
I don't know if it is suitable
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Please, one question: do you know if this dock is compatible with Advent Vega? Thanks!
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I dont know if it is compatible with Advent Vega. But the Advent Vega and Zpad looks Very similar.I think that might be malata OEM products.
You can find a guy who has the DOCK from UK. ask them this thing.
Says they cannot process commercial or business credit... I'm only trying to use a debit card. Odd. Maybe its automatically trying to run as credit because its a MasterCard as well? Bah.. oh well.
Why not paypal?
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Says they cannot process commercial or business credit... I'm only trying to use a debit card. Odd. Maybe its automatically trying to run as credit because its a MasterCard as well? Bah.. oh well.
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Why not pay it with paypal?
As far as I know, you can use the credit card (VISA or MasterCard) and paypal.
I do not know more
Just ordered one. Paid via PayPal. Thanks for the tipoff!
No body like this pirce???
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Why not pay it with paypal?
As far as I know, you can use the credit card (VISA or MasterCard) and paypal.
I do not know more
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That's true... I could use PayPal and have PayPal process from my card instead.. I stopped using PayPal because it wouldbtake forever to transfer money from my bank, but I forgot they gave that option now, which seems to work well. I'm going to order this weekend now.. lol thanks.
Edit: any comments on viewing angle and how steady the gtab is in this dock? I was thinking I might be able to throw some Velcro on the bottom of this thing and the dash of my car and use it as a car mount as well if it wasn't too obstructive to view. I always use it for music. Anything is safer than trying to quickly reach for my passenger seat at red lights. Lol
Based on my recent experience shopping with aliexpress.com, AKA AliBaba, i would recommend anyone to be very/very careful placing an order with them.
I placed my order on 12/11/10, paid by paypal and i am still waiting for item to arrive; the company has so far sent me three emails automatically extending the delivery date and i just asked for a refund; they extended the delivery date again.
What is strange is that the company uses what looks like the standard official paypal login screen; The money was taken out of my bank account with a paypal referral # and yet my account with paypal does not show such charge, so i am pretty sure i've been scammed of my money.
I just contacted paypal about this transaction and they must be investigating this merchant.
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Based on my recent experience shopping with aliexpress.com, AKA AliBaba, i would recommend anyone to be very/very careful placing an order with them.
I placed my order on 12/11/10, paid by paypal and i am still waiting for item to arrive; the company has so far sent me three emails automatically extending the delivery date and i just asked for a refund; they extended the delivery date again.
What is strange is that the company uses what looks like the standard official paypal login screen; The money was taken out of my bank account with a paypal referral # and yet my account with paypal does not show such charge, so i am pretty sure i've been scammed of my money.
I just contacted paypal about this transaction and they must be investigating this merchant.
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There are many fraud companies. But I think all this will end soon. Because it2steve will give us surprises. You will get the desired product from him . And fast.
as long as you use aliexpress your money is pretty much safe!its when you deal with the manufacturer directly on alibaba.com u have to worry!! on ali express you dont release payment til you receive the item and verify it with aliexpress! and there is a feedback system like ebay on aliexpress im not saying its impossible to get scammed but alot harder!!! check it out remember alibaba you deal with the companies directly ali express your order goes through them and is like paypal in a way! your money doesnt get released til you verify you recived your order and its not damaged and works correctly!! if not you can open a dispute and get a refund or a discount!!
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as long as you use aliexpress your money is pretty much safe!its when you deal with the manufacturer directly on alibaba.com u have to worry!! on ali express you dont release payment til you receive the item and verify it with aliexpress! and there is a feedback system like ebay on aliexpress im not saying its impossible to get scammed but alot harder!!! check it out remember alibaba you deal with the companies directly ali express your order goes through them and is like paypal in a way! your money doesnt get released til you verify you recived your order and its not damaged and works correctly!! if not you can open a dispute and get a refund or a discount!!
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I too believe this to be true. In my (very few) dealings with with aliexpress its was very structured as far as if/when/how I received my product. The vendors there rely heavily on a feedback system much as ebay does.
I think the part that we all hate it the thought of waiting 21 days for our toys. I'm the same way which is why I paid 2 1/2 times what most are paying for my first dock. I wanted it and wanted it now.
The idea is to open a good line of communication with someone where the product is that is trustworthy, delivers, and sticks to it. I am personally working on getting some stock here (as well as APX_)for us but prefer not to speak about it until it's in my hand. That's just easier all the way around.
Ok guys, i'll ammend my post.
I was just contacted by Paypal who informed me that the transaction is listed with them as well as a referral number which, tried as i did, i could not find originally in my Paypal account, so i'll give the merchant the benefit of the doubt.
I understand the item is being shipped from China for a minimum shipping fee, but must this merchant start sending customers emails within one week of purchase with links to contest it ? So far i've received at least five such emails, which is unnerving...
Ordered mine, its easily the best deal I could find out there for the dock. Thanks for the heads-up on the price drop.
In my opinion, the aliexpress pay system seems to besecure so far, giving the seller a set time to ship the product of 3 days. Of course it sucks having to wait around 15 days for the item to arrive here from China.
UPDATE: 10 JAN 2011 10:27 PM PST - Just received the tracking number and the claim that the item has shipped. Doesn't look like a scam, but I'll feel better once the dock's in my hands.
I have a few extra docks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865038
keeping you guys updated!
No body want to get it directly from your place quickly but like to waiting a long time from far away? I don't think so...
So I ordered mine on the 10th, and received 2 tracking numbers, but none of them work. Has anyone else ordered from this and did they receive the products they ordered?
Its just been 2 weeks and I am getting nervous, I can at least count on paypal or alibaba to get me my money back if this was a scam I hope.
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So I ordered mine on the 10th, and received 2 tracking numbers, but none of them work. Has anyone else ordered from this and did they receive the products they ordered?
Its just been 2 weeks and I am getting nervous, I can at least count on paypal or alibaba to get me my money back if this was a scam I hope.
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This wasnt a dock ordered from me was it???
...sent from my ' un-stock' vibrant
I possibly, have a chance to buy a Prime tomorrow. It's very possible someone else might buy it before me because I won't have the $ until later morning. Got emailed the pics of it. The seller says to email him when I get the cash.
Of course, I hope that the seller waits for me or that no one gets it before I do. I am concerned about Wifi and I can't return it if it was defective! I would turn it on and test it thoroughly before giving cash.
I doubt that I will get it before another quicker buyer but, Would you girls and guys go for it?
Edit GOT IT!!!
I just downloaded the new software update thingy. Interestingly, Wifi seems to have improved BUT, I will test it some more. Looks good though.
Also, I have a crap cellphone the Samsung intercept, so the videowas atrocious but hopefully, I can upload it from this Prime. The pics are low quality too but will post later!
Gorgeous, super tablet I must say. Very fast. Im sad that my Prime is missing the S hadowgun and Bladeslinger demos! Andy , could go u upload them or where can I get them. The price of getting it early lol! Riptide is amazing!! The water effects!!!! Wow!
Very happy I got it, definitely worth, even with th e wifi issue. Sorry not used to typing on my Prime obviously lol!
I am sorry that I had my private messages off, if anyone wants to PM me, by all means do so. Pics later!
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I possibly, have a chance to buy a Prime tomorrow. It's very possible someone else might buy it before me because I won't have the $ until later morning. Got emailed the pics of it. The seller says to email him when I get the cash.
Of course, I hope that the seller waits for me or that no one gets it before I do. I am concerned about Wifi and I can't return it if it was defective! I would turn it on and test it thoroughly before giving cash.
I doubt that I will get it before another quicker buyer but, Would you girls and guys go for it?
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Ya do it. I doubt they actually changed anything in their production to "fix" the wifi "issue". No warranty does suck though... But hell, who knows how long some of us might have to wait for this thing, I'd jump on it if I had the chance!
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I possibly, have a chance to buy a Prime tomorrow. It's very possible someone else might buy it before me because I won't have the $ until later morning. Got emailed the pics of it. The seller says to email him when I get the cash.
Of course, I hope that the seller waits for me or that no one gets it before I do. I am concerned about Wifi and I can't return it if it was defective! I would turn it on and test it thoroughly before giving cash.
I doubt that I will get it before another quicker buyer but, Would you girls and guys go for it?
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I'd make sure you get the original receipt for it so if it needs to be exchanged or needs warranty work you're covered. Other than that, assuming you're OK with what you'll be paying for it, go for it.
P.S. - Do the exchange in a restaurant and get there first. Meeting strangers that know you'll have cash with you is something to be wary of.
Do you know where this person got their Prime from? Is it covered by warranty?
If it is not under warranty then I don't think it is worth it cause if it is defective or it becomes defective then you are screwed.
The seller says he obtained it from through a promotion last week at a technology media event in New York. Lucky man.
It's not from a store, so no receipt. I will ask if he has a paper with it. It's a USA Prime, so warranty by Asus
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I'd make sure you get the original receipt for it so if it needs to be exchanged or needs warranty work you're covered. Other than that, assuming you're OK with what you'll be paying for it, go for it.
P.S. - Do the exchange in a restaurant and get there first. Meeting strangers that know you'll have cash with you is something to be wary of.
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Good advice because I'm going long distance to a big city. I definitely am meeting in a public restaurant IF I even get the thing
Just my 2¢ on the issue: Don't worry about the warranty. Since it's a brand new product, you don't have to prove when you bought it. I sent in my Transformer multiple times to ASUS directly for service, and they never questioned when/where I purchased it...
There are others who will disagree, and of course, everyone's entitled to my opinions
If it was me...
I would only buy it if the box is still sealed. That's just me though, for my own peace of mind. Goodluck and keep us posted.
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Just my 2¢ on the issue: Don't worry about the warranty. Since it's a brand new product, you don't have to prove when you bought it. I sent in my Transformer multiple times to ASUS directly for service, and they never questioned when/where I purchased it...
There are others who will disagree, and of course, everyone's entitled to my opinions
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My point exactly, since you are getting the device right after it's released (before its released actually), so even if they count it to the day it was released you'd still get 1 full year of warranty.
I personally would not do it. It's just like people who charge close to retail for their used Ipads. If I'm paying close to retail, I may as just well purchase it for the retail price so I can have the peace of mind of going back to the store if anything goes wrong. Don't forget that since it's the holidays, most stores have extended return periods. Also, I know we all are eager to get the new prime but 1 or 2 months from now, if you are having problems with the unit, you have to ask yourself was it worth it to buy it a week early or would it have been better to wait a week and have your own receipt and the ability to return it to the store if you needed to.
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Don't worry about the warranty.
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You could also buy one at a B&M reseller once they're more widely available and return it. Keep the original receipt and return it with a photocopy or do it at BB where they can track the transaction by CC number and you don't need a receipt for returns. Use that to send in should it need repair. And for those with a higher moral standard then mine, it's bending the rules not breaking them.
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You could also buy one at a B&M reseller once they're more widely available and return it. Keep the original receipt and return it with a photocopy or do it at BB where they can track the transaction by CC number and you don't need a receipt for returns. Use that to send in should it need repair. And for those with a higher moral standard then mine, it's bending the rules not breaking them.
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I didn't get mine from a B&M, so I'm not sure how popular it is, but I know with game consoles etc., most places have the SN on the receipt...
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I didn't get mine from a B&M, so I'm not sure how popular it is, but I know with game consoles etc., most places have the SN on the receipt...
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Good point. I know Costco doesn't. GameStop's not too sophisticated so they may not. I'm not sure about Target and Walmart. BB probably does.
I guess nobody else is curious or maybe they are just classier than me but how much ya payin for it? Good luck too by the way.
He's asking $600 for the 32GB Amethyst Grey. I know it's $100 over retail. Would I be totally stupid? My pre-order was cancelled by Amazon and don't see how I will get one this month if another buyer gets to the overpriced promo Prime first, but who knows.
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He's asking $600 for the 32GB Amethyst Grey. I know it's $100 over retail. Would I be totally stupid? My pre-order was cancelled by Amazon and don't see how I will get one this month if another buyer gets to the overpriced promo Prime first, but who knows.
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Honestly, I would pay that right now. After tax and shipping that's what it would cost anyway. My preorder at GS was $544. Go for it. Even if you can handle yourself, take somebody with you for added security anyway. I don't know what it's like in NJ but I'm in Texas and I think I would have a heater in the truck.
I wouldn't do it especially for that price unless you absolutely need to have it now. Then again, I know how it feels to want something so bad that you are willing to pay over MSRP for it. You have to ask yourself, is it worth it to pay a $100 markup on something that may be on shelves in a week. Even if it's released next month, you have to ask yourself if it is worth it to pay more for something that you can't freely return in any store since he isn't giving you a receipt. If you have the money and you need it that bad, then pull the trigger. This thread reminds me of when I paid $750 for the Nokia n95 before it hit stateside. Never again my friend, never again.
Just to reiterate it's not really a $100 markup if you have to pay tax and have it shipped. $544 with tax in Tejas. Add shipping and its much closer to 6 hundo. Plus, waiting an extra month or two is not worth saving $50 - $100; to me anyway.
I would pay for it because at gamestop with overnight shipping charges, mine comes out to $554, but thats just me.
He would get much more on eBay for it. Grab the chance while you have it.
Hi guys,
I put my transformer prime on ebay yesterday at a buy it now price of £350 which I thought was fair considering the prime's condition. Someone bought it within about 6 hours which was great, however, he only has 1 feedback for a saw he bought in 2011.
He sent me this message over ebay:
Hi mate, Glad I won your item. I'm currently in U.K at the moment. Please email me at [email protected], confirming the exact condition of the item. I will be going for an appointment will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email me at [email protected] using the item number as the subject. cheers
seems dodgy. Only in the UK for a bit? going for an appointment? Using a freeweb email address? His address checks out as being from the UK
I am aware of people reversing payment on paypal once theyve received the product and I don't know how to defend myself from that happening. I can't afford to be scammed as I'm a student and need the money to buy a laptop as my other one packed up yesterday.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers, Nick
Did he send payment? Did he pay with Paypal?
Just make sure that you ship the tablet with tracking and insurance. You might consider doing a proof of delivery (signature) as well. As long as you can prove it was delivered to the address he specified he can't come back later and say he never got the item. The tracking, signature confirmation and insurance all cost a few bucks extra, but when dealing with a $350 item and a dodgy customer they are well worth the extra fee.
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Hi guys,
I put my transformer prime on ebay yesterday at a buy it now price of £350 which I thought was fair considering the prime's condition. Someone bought it within about 6 hours which was great, however, he only has 1 feedback for a saw he bought in 2011.
He sent me this message over ebay:
Hi mate, Glad I won your item. I'm currently in U.K at the moment. Please email me at [email protected], confirming the exact condition of the item. I will be going for an appointment will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email me at [email protected] using the item number as the subject. cheers
seems dodgy. Only in the UK for a bit? going for an appointment? Using a freeweb email address? His address checks out as being from the UK
I am aware of people reversing payment on paypal once theyve received the product and I don't know how to defend myself from that happening. I can't afford to be scammed as I'm a student and need the money to buy a laptop as my other one packed up yesterday.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers, Nick
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I'd be concerned about wanting to "confirm the exact condition of the item". If he wanted to do that he should have contacted you before bidding, not after winning. Also, whatever precautions you may take, if he leaves the country after he has your hardware in hand, you will not have much recourse if things go sour later-even if you have all the documentation to prove your side of things. Any way you could get him to pay cash?
On the yahoo account, I wouldn't be too concerned about that. I know lots of people who use yahoo, gmail, etc as their primary email accounts. This keeps things so that your email account is not tied to your ISP and you can keep your address if you change service providers. Also, I personally keep a separate Gmail account that I only use on ebay so that I don't have to give out my "real" address which I only give to friends and family.
thanks for your replies guys,
no, I have not received any money into my paypal account and am waiting for a response from him. Just a quick question regarding postal insurance: Do I insure my tablet up to the value of £350 and receive that if it all goes wrong? Why doesn't everyone just claim things went missing and both parties win?
also to the guy above, that bothered me too. The item's condition was extensively detailed in my description with photos and everything
cheers, Nick
With insurance you specify the sale price of the item and if it goes missing you collect that amount of money from the postal service which you then use to repay the purchaser.
The reason that everyone doesn't just say things are "missing" is because doing so is a crime punishable with prison time if you are found out. Also, it is unlikely that you will be able to get a stranger to reliably lie for you.
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With insurance you specify the sale price of the item and if it goes missing you collect that amount of money from the postal service which you then use to repay the purchaser.
The reason that everyone doesn't just say things are "missing" is because doing so is a crime punishable with prison time if you are found out. Also, it is unlikely that you will be able to get a stranger to reliably lie for you.
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So Worst case scenario is the item goes missing in the post according to mr fraudulent purchaser and I collect cash from the post office?
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So Worst case scenario is the item goes missing in the post according to mr fraudulent purchaser and I collect cash from the post office?
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No. The worse case scenario is that you don't buy insurance and the package gets lost or damaged in which case you are out of a tablet and have to refund the $350 out of your own pocket because your item was never delivered.
(Total loss= Tablet + $$350)
2nd worst scenario is the tablet is lost, but you paid $5 (or whatever) for the shipping insurance so you don't have to refund the purchaser out of your own pocket but you are still missing a tablet.
(Total loss= Tablet + $5)
When shipping relatively expensive items overseas it is always worth paying an extra $10 or so to the shipping company for insurance, detailed tracking and signature confirmation. This is doubly true if you don't trust the buyer which seems to be the case with this guy.
I sell my prime with dock, with 399 euro. I buy this in aprile. 2years waranty. I never use this tablet, and i want to sell. I change 2 prime, for defective problems. This is OK. For link send PM.
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No. The worse case scenario is that you don't buy insurance and the package gets lost or damaged in which case you are out of a tablet and have to refund the $350 out of your own pocket because your item was never delivered.
(Total loss= Tablet + $$350)
2nd worst scenario is the tablet is lost, but you paid $5 (or whatever) for the shipping insurance so you don't have to refund the purchaser out of your own pocket but you are still missing a tablet.
(Total loss= Tablet + $5)
When shipping relatively expensive items overseas it is always worth paying an extra $10 or so to the shipping company for insurance, detailed tracking and signature confirmation. This is doubly true if you don't trust the buyer which seems to be the case with this guy.
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oh I see, thus keeping the cash the buyer has given me.
This does sound like a scam to me, I once had very similar emails when I advertised a car.
I wouldn't part with your Prime until you have the money safely. I don't think you're covered by eBay payment protection (because his feedback is low), but might be worth checking with eBay customer service how protected you are.
Good luck!
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oh I see, thus keeping the cash the buyer has given me.
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Pretty much. According to eBay rules if your product was lost and not delivered you would have to refund them their money (Paypal would happily do it for them without your consent). If you bought insurance, the postal service would pay you the listed value of the tablet so you would get $350 (minus whatever you paid for insurance) and the purchaser would get their $350 back as well.
Insurance is ALWAYS worthwhile, especially for items over $100 and often for items as low as $30 if you have a bad feeling about the buyer.
I've used Ebay a LOT.
1 - Never send without a payment
2 - NEVER, I repeat NEVER EVER accept a payment through PayPal that they used a credit card to make. Reason? People claim that they were "frauded" and do a chargeback. PayPal retracts the money from you and you are out everything.
3 - If you receive a payment email from the buyer NEVER trust them. EVER. Go directly to your paypal through your web browser, never through their links. Reason? They have fake paypal pages set up to make you think you got the payment. I've seen this more times than I can count...it almost suckered me the first time it was that good.
4- ALWAYS get insurance, tracking number and mandatory signature upon delivery. DO NOT EVER send without any of these. Period.
5 - Make sure to ship through whatever government shipping options you have if available. Canada Post, USPS, whatever...this usually avoids brokerage fees (which you can apply to be your own broker and get the item anyway, but it's a headache and a HUGE scam shipping companies LOVE to employ for extra cash)
6 - If the guy says he's from somewhere reasonably local (UK, USA, Canada) then states "I am overseas working in Africa on a geological survey ship, can you please send to my cousin in Nigeria" tell him to **** off and repost it.
7 - EVERY fake buyer will send a template email "Thanks guy, I am happy to be winning your item off of ebay and can not wait to get it! I am so excited!", it never sounds conversational and never mentions the specific item. You can send them back an email that asks them specific questions and they'll answer with another template "Glad to hear from you, I will send the money requested and $50 extra dollars if you send the item as soon as possible through the fastest way".
If the person on the other end can't have a conversation, even in halted English, ignore them and move on. They are a scammer, usually from Africa, using templates to try to scam. Chances are they can't speak a lick of English, or even count. They entice with excited sounding emails offering extra money above and beyond the asking price, then send a fake email that they paid you with a link inside that takes you to a fake page.
This screams scam, I'd back away from it right now. If your selling on Ebay make sure you have someone with atleast 6 to 12 months history, and with a good rating. People will buy a bunch of crap $1 cables so they can raise up there rating and then start scamming on big name items.
When I sold my iPhone 3G years ago I ended up with someone offering to pay me and paypal but wanted me to ship to his Niece in another province... it was a gift and she'd be soooooo excited... apparently....
I walked away from that deal quickly.
Put it up on craigs list, meet in a public place and get cash.
I would run the other direction. This sounds no good.
Just wondering what everyone's preference is.
I jumped on the $49 refurbish Galaxy S3 deal to upgrade my wife's iPhone 4.
I may look into upgrading to Note 2 as soon as a refurbish is available (3-6 months?).
Android devices get AWFUL resale value (my Note 1 is worth less than my wife's iPhone 4) from online sites like Amazon/Gazelle, so only way to go is Craigslist or Ebay. I am in New York City so just wondering what is everyone's experience? Her phone is in great condition but power port and home button are not as reliable as it once was (both typical issues for iPhone's).
In my experiences you're going to get the top dollar amount from E-Bay selling your device unlocked. But then you have to deal with shipping, feedback, eBay's %, etc.
I strictly use Craigslist. I'm usually flexible on the price. Plus, start a little high and leave room to barter. Everyone likes to barter. It makes them feel like they got a better deal. You also don't have to wait while your auction ends. You get cash as soon as you sell.
Now, this all depends on the device you're selling. A Note1: Craigslist. Much more common device and not as high of a price tag. A Note2: EBay. Catch the big market of people willing to drop $600-800 for a device. You'll rarely find that on CList.
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In my experiences you're going to get the top dollar amount from E-Bay selling your device unlocked. But then you have to deal with shipping, feedback, eBay's %, etc.
I strictly use Craigslist. I'm usually flexible on the price. Plus, start a little high and leave room to barter. Everyone likes to barter. It makes them feel like they got a better deal. You also don't have to wait while your auction ends. You get cash as soon as you sell.
Now, this all depends on the device you're selling. A Note1: Craigslist. Much more common device and not as high of a price tag. A Note2: EBay. Catch the big market of people willing to drop $600-800 for a device. You'll rarely find that on CList.
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Both are good place to buy phone from provided the seller can put it in writing that the device will not be reported stolen, insurance claim or lost.
The device may work for several months or so, then suddenly it won't. The seller has then reported it either stolen lost or claimed insurance on it, the IMEI or ESN is then block by the carrier. Buyer beware.
I prefer eBay simply because you can get a good idea of who you are buying from or selling to by their feedback scores. You can require buyers have certain scores or higher as well as require immediate payment through PayPal. You can charge them shipping. One con is you get hit with a seller fee of around 9% if it sells. But craigslist people are more likely to try to haggle your selling price.
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I liked ebay till they got greedy between their fees and paypal fees, your losing at least 25% of your profit. You have to raise your price to offset them and nobody will buy.
The last 2 devices I sold weren't touched on ebay. Must have relisted for free 6 times. I put them on craigslist and they sold in 3 weeks. I got $275 for a 2 year old iphone 3gs-32gb/wht (mint) and $275 for my 6 month infuse (mint). I would not have gotten nearly this much profit on ebay. And Craigslist is free.
Beware of people wanting to pay via paypal and have you ship when selling on craigslist. Usually a scam.
Deal face to face and cash only. Sell local.
I like CL but man the spam and bs you get is really getting out of hand
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I like CL but man the spam and bs you get is really getting out of hand
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There needs to be some admins that clean it up like the ones in xda.
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I dont think that would help. What they do (spammers) is send you an email from one address and the reply is to another. And then the spamming begins. "I like to arrange for payment and shipment and I am going to pay you x dollars more than your asking price blah blah blah. Or its a simple as "is this item still available for sale" seems innocent but nope. they also put the signature as if they are emailing from a cell phone. Smart F ers.....
Use swappa.com for selling android devices, $10 flat flee and PayPal free.
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One thing I've noticed on eBay when selling my smart phones is that buyers will refuse to pay. One time the guy was bidding on multiple phones and thought he paid to much for mine. Another I never received any communication from the buyer.
I was able to realist but what a hassle and time consumer. Then of course you have the eBay and PayPal fees.
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I usually sell my phone on CL before ebay. Only thing i hate selling on Cl is people spamming me with i'll pay by paypal and you ship it to Africa etc.... Ebay is ok for me if i'm buying. Hate to deal with all the hassle of shipping and then paying ebay and paypal after your item is sold!
Yeah the spam lately on cl is out of control
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Swappa is so easy. Ebay is my thorn.
I am ttrying to sell my old hero. I posted it as rooted and on a custom Rom. Now the guy has my funds on hold because he can't get it activated. Such a pain. Swappa is so simple and easy. It is where i picked up my note.
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I listed my og note on Craigslist, eBay and Amazon. Ebay is not the place to sell of you want to get the most money for your sale and there are many people that buy and no pay so it becomes a hassle and time wasting. Amazon is the safest one if you want to sell something quick (given a competitive price) I had a guy purchase it for 420 but after shipping and fees I was going to make 375$. I had my listing on Craigslist until the last day when I had to ship it and I received a text from a guy interested on it. We met up 400$ after (made sure real bills) I went home and canceled the Amazon order. Lollll Craigslist is all about patience and knowing when to lower your price as time passes. Hence I started to sell my note for 470 plus accessories lolll
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I listed my og note on Craigslist, eBay and Amazon. Ebay is not the place to sell of you want to get the most money for your sale and there are many people that buy and no pay so it becomes a hassle and time wasting. Amazon is the safest one if you want to sell something quick (given a competitive price) I had a guy purchase it for 420 but after shipping and fees I was going to make 375$. I had my listing on Craigslist until the last day when I had to ship it and I received a text from a guy interested on it. We met up 400$ after (made sure real bills) I went home and canceled the Amazon order. Lollll Craigslist is all about patience and knowing when to lower your price as time passes. Hence I started to sell my note for 470 plus accessories lolll
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hey, what did you do to make sure the bills were real?
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I've bought and sold ten devices on CL in the past couple years. Its a great place to get good deals.
I never use eBay anymore really. Not like I used to.
Three times on eBay I have had an auction go through the roof on price within the first couple of hours only to find at the end of the auction that the "buyer" was a fake. I have no proof, but I think other sellers use throwaway email addresses to artificially boost the price on competing auctions. Case in point: I listed my wife's old Galaxy Skyrocket when I bought her the refurb Note for $49. Within 2 hours of the listing start (at $80), the auction hit $719. Seven days later at the end of the auction, no payment. After filing the complaint, no word from eBay. And they are STILL going to charge me the listing fee even though the buyer was bogus.
Then on the Skyrocket I tried Craig's List. Four Western Union and PayPal offers for twice as much as I was asking for within the first hour if I would "ship immediately". One even sent a bogus "Western Union" payment email without knowing my name, email address or virtually anything else. I updated the add to say "local pickup only" and next came the "please drive the phone to my location as I don't own a car" messages. The ad lived for a day on Craig's List before I pulled it.
Years ago, I sold a couple of things on Amazon's auction site. I am not sure how to do that today, and even if I did (assuming they still do that), I am not sure I would get much because I am not convinced there is the same traffic there.
I went to Gazelle. They sent me a box and when they got it, a $125 e-gift card from Amazon. I probably could have had more selling it myself, but who has the time to deal with the BS? I guess I was lucky in that Gazelle saw value in what I had. I have a Asus Transformer TF700T that I am about to sell, and they aren't interested in that. And I hate the thought of having to use either Craig's List or eBay, but I am not sure there is another way.
I sold one of my old CB radio mics on eBay, as is, no returns, because it was old, and I can't control how the buyer hooks it up. The buyer complained to eBay it didn't work, they MADE me return his money, then a couple weeks later I got a different mic back. You have to be extremely careful how you word your ad, I try not to use them anymore.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the XDA Marketplace. I've bought and sold many devices on both Ebay and CL but I have gotten the best results lately right here. No fees, cool community, and the ability to negotiate trades is great! I run an electronics store and I'm going to start selling some of our clearance merchandise on the market if it doesn't break any rules.
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Put my note 1 up for sale on CL for $375 including lots of extras, got a email reply with a $450 offer to ship it to Florida and he would pay via paypal. Seems odd he would offer $75 over asking price to have it shipped. Wondering if there's anyway I can get scsmmed vis PayPal or maybe he could do something to the phone after a factory reset. I never had issues in the past selling on CL, but this just seems to strange.
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Definite scam. Happens every time I list on craigslist.
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Probably a fake PayPal email. It'll say money sent but being held until item received. If you have to come on a forum to ask this stuff, that should tell you a few things...
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The rule of thumb is that if it seems too good to be true, then it is too good to be true.
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Put my note 1 up for sale on CL for $375 including lots of extras, got a email reply with a $450 offer to ship it to Florida and he would pay via paypal. Seems odd he would offer $75 over asking price to have it shipped. Wondering if there's anyway I can get scsmmed vis PayPal or maybe he could do something to the phone after a factory reset. I never had issues in the past selling on CL, but this just seems to strange.
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I got the same email when I listed it today. Definitely a scam
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Every time I list something I get an email from someone wanting me to ship. Always deal locally in person in a busy restaurant. I always have them come in and sit down with me. If it's a good deal then they'll have no problem doing this. Gives you/them the chance to use the device in good light. I've bought and sold quite a few android devices and iPhones on Craigslist.
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I hide my email and put "text/call:" and my Google Voice number. Just so no spam and you have to be a real person.
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My rule of thumb is never use paypal when on craigslist.
I got this same scam, difference for me is that they wanted me to send the phone to the Republic of South Africa!!! The shipping cost they were willing to front me was no where near enough lol. They must have been scammers in training. I think PayPal is fine for Craigslist so long as you don't ship anything until the funds are moved from Paypal to your checking account.
BTW, do any of you expect an updated variant to the GNote 2 in the next 6mos? Maybe new colors or an "HD/Max" version?
Never ever EVER do any Craigslist deals with anyone who even so much as MENTIONS paypal. It is definitely a scam. CL is supposed to be for local people to meet in person to exchange goods & services, it's not meant to be another ebay.
I disagree. I was a buyer looking for an Alpinestar motorcycle jacket that had been discontinued. I searched all online shops including eBay and could never find a new/used one... that is until I ran across a seller on CL. Needless to say they were not local. The only method of payment I was willing to use was PayPal.
As the seller (of anything, not just phones) you don't have anything to lose if you wait for funds to appear in your PayPal account. What this scam requires is that you rely solely on an email for verification, which is ridiculous. It's not really a PayPal scam because that would suggest that there is some loop hole within the PayPal payment system. It's just another dressed up email scam.
As a seller, I was kinda relieved someone wanted to deal over PayPal. I don't really like having to give people my phone number and meet them. I know people that will rob you in broad a$$ daylight. You can scream "Hey, that guy just took my phone!" but who is really gonna help you? Most likely people are just gonna watch and feel sorry for you and keep it moving.