Had Evo 4g rooted so im not a rook, but LTE is new to me. So just wanted some answers before I go ahead with rooting process.
I've seen threads posting you need "root" before going s-off, but I dont know if these are dated now.
Do I need to gain root before using LazyPanda's S-off shown here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
Or can I run this process from a stock phone. If Im correct, gaining s-off will root and the 1st part of gaining root s-on would be redundant.
Can someone provide some help, again Im new to phone and dont know if these processes are dated or not.
Just need a point in the right direction to do this without having the newest "HTC Paperweight"
Thanks in advance.
Everything you do is going to depend on what hboot you have. If you are on 1.12, you can get s-off. If 1.15 or 1.19 you cannot.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
This is the thread you need.
I'm assuming you have 1.12 since you are asking about lazypanda.
If so, yes, you need to root in order to get S-OFF. Use zedomax to give you root and then run lazypanda
Rxpert said:
I'm assuming you have 1.12 since you are asking about lazypanda.
If so, yes, you need to root in order to get S-OFF. Use zedomax to give you root and then run lazypanda
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Honest question: Why is that? I didn't realize you needed to root first (i just happened to be already when i ran lazy panda), so now I'm curious...I thought root access only pertained to the OS and lazy panda was a modification to the bootloader?
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Apologies for any ignorance here as I'm a newbie. I've been monitoring the various threads in this forum but can't seem to find a step by step guide on what I need to do for the following.
I have a HTC View 4G stock tablet that was flashed to HC. I'd really like to find a way to remove the Sprint apps and root the tablet so I can install a custom ROM.
I get the sense I need to find a way to downgrade to GB, root, S-Off and then apply custom ROM's and uninstall Sprint apps -- is that correct ? I was able to figure out my H-BOOT version is 1.14.0005 and that my tablet shows the following:
*** LOCKED ***
EXPRESS PVT SHIP S-ON RL
Since I've done nothing to modify the View system yet, I'm not sure of the specific steps I need to take to accomplish this.
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Rich
first, downgrade to gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414137
then, get S-off, root and recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709
next, upgrade to HC s=off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409306
now download custom rom and flash, i suggest Desensed 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416868
READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY AND VERIFY/DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT MATCHES THE INSTRUCTIONS. I CANT STRESS ENOUGH UNLESS YOU WANT TO BRICK YOUR DEVICE
also, please dont make a new thread if you have more questions later on. try to post them on this thread because your questions/problem have probably been asked and answered before
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you might actually be able to do everything with this tool but you definitely need to install the HTC drivers and get revolutionary recovery separately
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418258
i recommend rooting it the long way so you can get used to and comfortable with different rooting methods
Thanks
Thanks for the prompt response. I will step through these steps and document what I did and then re-post.
Wyldkard.....I'm new to the View. My Vibrant was basically a one click root. From there you could flash almost anything be it GB, HC or ICS. This s-on/ off and hboot stuff is definitely more involved. Can you point me to a thread that explains rooting the hard way. I'd like to read just to learn. I'm s-off now via revolutionary but I think they made it too easy for me. LOL
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So Sprint just came out with an update. I rooted my phone but have not flashed any custom rom yet.
Can I run the update or do I need to wait to flash a rom with the update?
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you need to wait in case they patch the lazy panda exploit.
Once a dev has one that is prerooted they will post it up in the dev forum.
If you are using RootKeeper and have just root with stock ROM, can you apply the OTA update and then restore root with RootKeeper?
another noob question
I am getting confused on root vs. unlocked vs. s-off.
I used htc dev. to, I guess, unlock my phone (I thought this was rooting). I know I do NOT have s-off yet. I did read some post, a while ago, that talked unlocked and s-off (I think, I can't find that post anymore). I used the following to "Root" method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 . It looks like that only unlocks your phone.
I want to install twrp and can't figure out what method I am suppose to use to install it. Goo Manager vs. fastboot method? It says if you are unlocked AND rooted you can use Goo Manager. If you are only unlocked then fastboot.
Can someone please help me to understand?
Thanks.
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I will definitely contact you if I have any issues.
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GO HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
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At this point, HTC dev unlock has all the same capabilities as s-off, so even if this ota blocks the lazy panda exploit, just go the HTC dev route.
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At this point, HTC dev unlock has all the same capabilities as s-off, so even if this ota blocks the lazy panda exploit, just go the HTC dev route.
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No it doesn't. You don't have full nand write, which means no custom radios and no custom bootloader (such as getting rid of red text)
Thank you everyone! I now have s-off, and have twrp installed. I am ready to have fun now!
Hi guys
I am unrooted and I want to root s-off before I do the jb ota update. Let me know if I am in the right direction, in order to do this, I need to unlock/root s-off with dirty racun as my h-boot is 1.19. (dont necessarily want to flash a rom just yet). then I relock (still being s-off) do the ota, and then unlock again, and root? This is just what I have learned from reading info in the forums. thanks
nikiva101 said:
Hi guys
I am unrooted and I want to root s-off before I do the jb ota update. Let me know if I am in the right direction, in order to do this, I need to unlock/root s-off with dirty racun as my h-boot is 1.19. (dont necessarily want to flash a rom just yet). then I relock (still being s-off) do the ota, and then unlock again, and root? This is just what I have learned from reading info in the forums. thanks
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Do not do it this way. You do not want the 2.09 h boot whether your are soff our not. Once you obtain soff ONLY FLASH RADIO FIRMWARE. I believe it's the first zip in captain throwback thread for the new firmware. Read before you do anything. There it's no need to ever change h boot. 2.09 gives problems even if u are soff.
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nikiva101 said:
Hi guys
I am unrooted and I want to root s-off before I do the jb ota update. Let me know if I am in the right direction, in order to do this, I need to unlock/root s-off with dirty racun as my h-boot is 1.19. (dont necessarily want to flash a rom just yet). then I relock (still being s-off) do the ota, and then unlock again, and root? This is just what I have learned from reading info in the forums. thanks
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Once you are S-OFF you don't have to take the OTA and the firmware you want is the file that does NOT include hboot,kernel,and stock recovery
On XHausX firmware thread it is the first file under firmware downloads and Capt_Throwback it's listed as Full firmware
Any questions shoot me a PM
bigdaddy619 said:
Once you are S-OFF you don't have to take the OTA and the firmware you want is the file that does NOT include hboot,kernel,and stock recovery
On XHausX firmware thread it is the first file under firmware downloads and Capt_Throwback it's listed as Full firmware
Any questions shoot me a PM
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^^^This.
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thanks everyone, my other evo was perfectly rooted but the touchscreen stopped working, so when I got this replacement one, the root method was different. Ive been reading up for about a month, so I tried to condense my question as much as possible. thanks for the help
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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First of all you have missed a couple firmware updates, but since you are s-on you need to update using a RUU head to vipeRuu thread and follow the script instructions, then unlock again using htc dev, install twrp and then flash supersu and busy box, you will be s-on, unlocked and rooted on stock. Navigation doesn't work on some jelly bean roms on some phones, it just crashes, no fix as of today, use telenav, waze or scout. Good luck!
VipeRuu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
Root Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038123
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
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I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
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OK, Thanks for the suggestions guys, ill try this tonight.
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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RobertBohannon said:
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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Because you can root without s-off.
jcruiser89 said:
Because you can root without s-off.
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yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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RobertBohannon said:
yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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Yeah, i rooted the phone the day i got it, the only thing available at the time was s-on. Phone was/is running great, but i noticed i'm 4 updates behind and i have started seeing 4g in my area so i though it would be a good time to update the radios. Thanks for the suggestions guys, i got s-off now and going to try to update later.
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For those happy folks finally moving to 4.4.2 (Verizon and Sprint most recently) please keep in mind that we do NOT yet have an ruu for 4.4.2. If you are S-ON you will NOT be able to save yourself using any 4.3 ruu if you have updated your hboot. Keep in mind an hboot can be flashed without any other part of an update so make sure you know what you are doing and what you have done to your device.
Just a public service announcement to hopefully bring people back to reality before they go modding their new 4.4.2 goodness.
Can't 4.4's hboot replace itself with the RUU's hboot,
(like usual 2 pass RUU install)?
Or did you mean for S-ON devices?
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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S-off should download. Might have to test lol
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Aren't the s-off'ed and unlocked devices able to use their respective RUU's to downgrade? Example like myself I wen't from 1.11.605.4 official to the new 2.16.605.2 that if I ran in to a problem I could do the 0P3PIMG.zip from SD method or do the fastboot oem rebootRUU with the vzw.t6.0P3PIMG_1.11.605.4.zip and I was under the impression we could downgrade or upgrade as we see fit so long as we are s-off??? Isn't that how it's always been? I thought s-on users only really had to be careful since they could only upgrade due to main version issue and also not having a KitKat RUU now available if they took the update while s-on.... Some clarity would be great! Honestly though I thought the way I just worded it is how it's always been with HTC devices...
Jiggity Janx said:
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Murrda said:
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
Vinchenzop said:
Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
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Murrda said:
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
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Noob moment? Tired? Acid flashback? Your guess is as good as mine, but he went s-on and was able to regain s-off via WeakSauce temp-root and firewater s-off with newest OTA/firmware. So...success? lol
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
Vinchenzop said:
Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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Murrda said:
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null. If you're s-off, you could likely use the 4.3 RUU and downgrade your hboot (i did this yesterday during a brain lapse after taking/applying the update).
So if you're looking if being s-off allows you to downgrade your hboot, then the answer is yes.
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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And that's a second confirmations
LOL..... Thank you!!
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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OP and or title should be corrected so it is not misleading to some looking for answers... Maybe I'll make a thread for users as reference for all the variants
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
dottat said:
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null.
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IMO if you can root it you can f it up. So s-on users do have some risk and currently there is no fix for them on 4.4.2 where there was a fix for them on 4.3 (encrypted ruu).
Good to see that soff users should be good to use a lower version ruu to downgrade if needed.
I have updated and downgraded to the stock version OS and hboot. But I'm also S Off. I had to use the decrypted RUU file though....
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Murrda said:
What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
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Lol...I meant let's not lose sight of the warning here. Noobs will be confused.
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