Hi,
I hope anyone who is familiar with rooting could help me answer this question. What I am looking at is how some of the contributors here are able to create a step by step guide to rooting a particular phone for a particular build.
What are the files that are needed and what are the steps needed after obtaining such files? I am very interested to learn about the process to rooting and would like to seek help and advice in this area.
Thank you in advance!
Yitch
Oh boy. Welcome to xda, Yitch. It's hard to search for stuff sometimes on the xda app (which I'm on), so I can't help point you... But it's here, if you search for it. Please read up on the "New to xda" threads that are also all over here. Because you need to know the better you back up your questions with what u have done to look for the answer yourself, the more potential help you will get with an answer. Search here and on google, you will find your answer. Kind of like asking where to get a cup of coffee when there's a caffe shop just down the street. Also search for tutorials and guides for learning the Linux code Android is based on, cuz you will need to refer to it to really begin to understand. That, and time. Most who are knowledgeable enough to write those guides up so we all can understand have a lot of time logged into writing and editing code...which does not come easy. I guess what I'm telling you is, the info is all out there, but no one will be able to give you a quick and easy answer. This is gonna take time for you (and anyone) to really get a working knowledge you're looking for. Sorry I can't help more. Good luck.
Related
While there are many reasons one might want a smartphone, my chief reason for wanting an android smartphone was ideological: software should be free/ capable devices shouldn't be hobbled/ users' right to understand and control their devices, etc. I'm a total n00b in the scheme of things, but I've been trying to gradually gain an understanding of how everything works, and (for me) screwing things up is often the best to learn. The vibrant was an excellent choice for me, I've had it since the end of summer and have been having a lot of fun seeing what I can do with it while following the dev community here. So after flashing lord knows how many roms/kernels/modems etc in the past few months with mixed results (some went smoothly as anticipated, others not so much lol), this is the big question on my mind: What rules of thumb can help me avoid being a n00b forever?
In the threads about almost all roms/kernels, there are countless "KTHX DUDE IS THIS SAFE TO FLASH OVER XXXXXXX THAT I'M RUNNING???? AND EVEN THO THIS POST IS 39 SECONDS OLD, HOW IS BATTERY???"
Not that i'm even allowed to post in the vibrant android dev forum atm, but when I am, I don't wanna be that guy. So, other than trial by fire or waiting to see how more intrepid members have fared, how do you figure out the answer to that question? I'm assuming system build (i.e. KA2/KB1/etc...not sure if that's what to call it) has something to do with it, as well as filesystem configuration...but that's not specific enough for me to establish anything other than that I should really make a nandroid backup JIC...
Any helpful rules of thumb? I know getting a better understanding of the system in general is the REAL answer, but i figure this is a start right here ;x
Thanks in advance!
Nico
Read everything you can before posting questions!
Try and solve the problem yourself. For me the fun of modding your phone is in the process, not the end result. (I think of the result as a reward for my work)
Find joy in using your knowledge before crying for help.
Post mature, concise, intelligent and grammatically correct responses.
Don't demand or expect help, this forum is a privilege.
HAVE FUN. If something is a chore to you, it begs the question "Why am I even doing this?".
Lastly, respect fellow forum members! We're all here for the same reason.
There isn't a book you can read that will transform you from a noob to a 1337hax0r overnight. It takes years of learning and practice to become a developer, but if you're patient and not annoying, you will still be respected here.
Also I see alot of people asking the same questions over and over. To kinda check to see if the question you want to ask has been asked just take a little time and use the search function for the thread. You will be surprised.
Like joey and tc said. Before I joined the forums I lurked and lurked for months just reading all the stickies, checking all the questions being asked and scanning the rom threads for useful info. You never want to be the battery question guy or the disable voodoo person.
I'm still building my "street cred" here before I start a question thread. If you see a new guy asking a question, try and help out. point them to the answer with a smile. Most of all have fun.
So, guys, i have a question or two.
I want to develop an app for personal use, which, if it works, could be used by various other people.
it is very specific what i want to build, but i have no clue how to go about it. c
can anyone give advice on where the best place to start with this process is?
it may be a long shot, but it will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Oliver
There have been a few tutorials from Adam Outler on the XDA TV
Well for starters, if you have no programming background you will need to learn to program in the Java Language. Then once you master that, you will have to read up on the android developers website about different topics. Then get familiar with the SDK and API and start building your app.
Questions should be asked in Q&A forums, not development forums.
Thread moved.
Hi
I would say the best place to start is at 'developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html'
They have a step-by-step guide how to install the things needed to get started...
Another good tutorial site for me is vogella.com
I would be careful about starting in right away with the app you want to build.
Your idea might be rather complicated, and I think it is important to start with something really simple.
Learning to do Android from scratch is rather a lot of work - don't under-estimate it and expect to make your idea happen very quickly.
I'm not trying to discourage you - just to make sure your expectations are realistic so you have a good experience.
I need to talk to somne that KNOWS the S3 ToolKit. And I don't mean messaging on here. I am a total NOOB when it comes to rooting and I have tons of questions. I am posting my number so PLEASE text me if your willing to help. 716-499-3338. I wanna root, and have before (sort of) but as I said, I dont understand a lot of the jargon and I neeeeeeed somebody knowledgeable that is willing to help me.
Messaging on here is fine. NO ONE will ring you. If you do not understand the jargon, read the guides and faq's. There is NO WAY you should root before understanding. Even if someone rang you and answered all your questions, you would not be prepared. You need to understand and understanding often takes you absorbing the answer mutliple times and thats hard when verbal.
Please try asking your questions here.
I have been curious how people learn to make exploits to root phones. Is it something you learn in Cyber security? Where/how can you learn how to make software to root phones? I know I cant exactly walk up to George Hotz and be like "teach me your ways"... I know it probably takes hard work, and dedication but I just want to learn... I do not wish to bother anyone, but I would eventually like to help out with development of root programs/software and/or other things to help the community of DEV's and others. Please don't shoot me down, I do not wish to bother people and I am trying to be polite and say I am a NEWB (The good kind) not a N00B. (as seen in another thread). Can someone point me in the right direction?
Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused, please tell me if I have made a mistake such as posting in the wrong place, etc.
Thanks,
-speak51
So as someone who, like all of you, has to work all day, commute forever back and forth, then spend time with family in the evening, i dont want to have to spend my little free time googling and link hopping looking for often badly written and never complete guides.
If a COMPLETE, SELF-CONTAINED, GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT guide to upgrading my rooted tab s3 from stock nougat to stock oreo and rerooting exists, would someone be so kind as to point me to i? I once had the time to track things down on my own and try to interpret horribly disfigured grammar, but life has entered a phase where i just don't anymore. Any and all help appreciated. THANKS!! {no offense intended - i know for many english is a second language.}
-MIKE
No replies at all? Surely someone can at least give me a start...?
Same question, no answer. And I don't understand, if I need formatting data after flashing full wipe rom via Odin and using patch for verity and encryption when I was already decrypted before, or I don't need to format data again.
Well firstly you may try creating a proper question in the Q&A forum instead of creating a voting thread?
pardon my ignorance, but i have no idea how to create a voting thread, so my doing so was purely by accident. and this forum is called "Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Questions & Answers" which sounds like a Q&A forum. And i see at least one question mark in what i posted, implying that it is, indeed, a question. Could you be a bit clearer about how this is a 'voting thread', not a question, and not in a Q&A forum? You know, i have a PhD in physics. if you were to post an inadequate question in an improper forum on a physics site, i would explain, fully, what was incorrect, then i'd try to answer your effing question anyway, not give some useless nonsense. I've noticed that as a common difference between physics/science/math forums and pretty much all of the 'computer' related forums I've asked questions in: when the question is 'in the wrong forum' (gasp - end of the world! ) class A tries to be helpful, class B just posts non-info, usually in an insulting way (i appreciate your not doing so). if you know the freakin' answer, why not answer the question, regardless of the forum? sorry for all the blathering, and apologies to the poster, but the information-free answer ticked me off...
that user who gave you some useless nonsense is the main person who provided root for the tab s3. check out his guide.
theres no reason you shouldn't check the original tab s3 root/twrp thread for updates if you rooted the tablet yourself back then
not to be too obvious, but if you'll look at my original post, you'll see i have neither the time nor the inclination to spend an hour (or more) googling/searching forums when the answer to one simple question, which can be given in 30 seconds or less, will get me where i need to be. what is it with this BS refusal to answer a question if you know the answer? 'look it up yourself' - my god, how many person-hours are wasted because you people refuse to answer questions you know the answer to. i knew there was a reason i avoided computer 'science' for real science - we'll answer a question if you ask it, usually in far more detail than you want. (computer 'science' isn't by the way. at best it's trade school.) if the poster you're so gallantly defending is such a diety, why didn't he just answer the bloody question? i'm self-educated and know far more than most of the B.Sc. CS people I've worked with, i just can't stand the thought of banging out code day after day, it's no more than working on a production line. yes - i'm pissed. if you know the answer, answer the damn question! or block me (like it would affect my life at all). Android 8 is still as primitive as Android 7, so i see no real need to change anyway. yeesh.
look - i realize i'm acting like a TOTAL jerk, and i apologize. I've just spent most of my life working with people who are eager to pass along knowledge, and will answer any question when they could easily say 'go figure it out yourself', so i just plain don't get that attitude. i apologize for the attitude in my posts. (to my knowledge, there's no emoji for 'contrite')
This is the only guide to root the tab s3 on oreo: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/development/recovery-twrp-3-1-0-1-samsung-galaxy-t3581359
but it doesn't fit your criteria of COMPLETE, SELF-CONTAINED, GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT so I don't suggest you use it.
@Msamp Mike -- surely you understand that this is not a shop with tidy shelves, but a messy community of tinkerers and hackers (of the best kind!).
Some develop, some test, and others write. There are few off-the-shelf solutions here, but there's a lot of collaboration and goodwill.
What you're asking for may not exist, but we can create it collectively. I'm planning to go through the update myself. I'll post my experience. You (or anyone else) is welcome to try, comment, and improve!