I know you can't apply system updates after using an s-off tool.
Does the same thing apply if you used HTC Unlock to gain root?
Can I apply system updates or no?
thanks
Are you talking about prl and profile or software? If you're talking about software you don't want to accept any updates from Sprint just wait for the ROM of your choice to update and flash that. Are you s-off? If so you can update your firmware with out switching to the stock recovery and taking an ota.
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Flash back to stock rom and recovery, relock the boot loader and take an OTA. And for the record you can update with S-OFF. When new official packages are released someone usually provides a zip of just the ROM package and another for radios and other various firmware bits
Thanks guys. The thing is, the HTC Unlock tool is the 'legit' way to unlock our devices.
It's a tool made by HTC. It's doesn't give S-Off.
So given Sprint allows it, and HTC allows it, does that mean it's safe to install any update they send out?
I would assume it wouldn't break my root given that Sprint/HTC allowed root....
Anyone know?
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They don't allow root, they allow access to fastboot and partitions. Sprint just looks the other way lol. In order to take an ota, you need to flash a stock ROM and recovery. Relock hboot and then you can accept an ota. Unlock hboot and reflash twrp to be able to root the phone again
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They don't allow root, they allow access to fastboot and partitions. Sprint just looks the other way lol. In order to take an ota, you need to flash a stock ROM and recovery. Relock hboot and then you can accept an ota. Unlock hboot and reflash twrp to be able to root the phone again
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Gotcha. Thanks man
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Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
Don't accept that Motorola garbage.... Less processor speed and terrible screen also less dev support. Oh and you don't need to get back to stock to get ics just flash the ics ota in bootloader
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please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
mayhem like me said:
Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
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I've created a guide for rooted users to install the official ICS over-the-air: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
I'm also working on a guide to restore root after installing ICS. It's not too bad at all, it's just finding a simple guide that's the trick... For restoring root after ICS, you can see my response here, where I reference discussions where I asked the same questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829484
mayhem like me said:
please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wouldn't do that for the over the air update.
You would need to flash stock recovery (assuming you've flashed a custom recovery), and then they can install the update through Android, like normal.
The guide i posted takes you through this process, as i did it.
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mayhem like me said:
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
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Oh, and if you flashed Clockwork Mod, this is likely causing your charging problems. This is why i used AR Recovery 3.15 instead.
You can either take the OTA update or install an RUU.
Both ways, you have to relocked your bootloader or S-OFF.
For the OTA, you should be stock everything.
Stock recovery and rom.
For an RUU, just make sure you are on a rom that matches your firmware.
Gingerbread ROM on Gingerbread firmware.
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I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
mayhem like me said:
I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
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For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
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The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
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For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
*important edit*
The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
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Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
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you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
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Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
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Here is my new guide for S-OFF: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
It's really very easy - at least it was for me. Using the metronome audio file that I linked to, I was able to successfully complete the wire trick on my first try. It was cake when actually doing it.
Let me know if this helps.
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you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
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hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
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Flashing a different recovery doesn't modify the rom.
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hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
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Flashing a recovery won't affect root. The OTA will break root, but it's simple to restore. That's the easy part.
What I think you should do first is achieve S-OFF (you do not need to re-lock if you achieve S-OFF. It's easy, and it makes switching ROMs easier).
Then flash stock recovery.
Then accept OTA update(s).
Then unlock again (rather than mess with your bootloader).
Then flash superSU to restore root.
All per my instructions. I think they will make it easy as possible for you. The hardest thing, I think, is trying to find a step-by-step guide on all of this.
Just my opinion. There's a lot of info out there, but it's hard to sort through which steps you should choose to do, and when you should do them.
I successfully installed Fresh Evo LTE 5.3.1 on my phone.
One of the suggestions is to update the Radio but I'm having a tough time doing that.
Here are my specs:
HBOOT 1.15.0000
S-ON
FreshEVO 5.3.1 ROM
I went to the link from the FreshEVO LTE 5.3.1 page to update the radio and have tried the following to install the Radio:
Attempt 1
Downloaded the Full Firmware zip file
Rename it "PJ75IMG"
Place it in the root of my SD card
Reboot into Bootloader
The PJ75IMG.zip file is detect but I only get 'Parsing PJ75IMG.zip' and then the Fastboot, Recovery, etc. options are displayed.
Attempt 2
From the same page where I downloaded the Full Firmware zip file, I also tried:
Download the Boot.img Only (signed) file
Flash it through the command prompt while in Fastboot ("fastboot flash boot boot.img")
Go into Bootloader
The PJ75IMG.zip is detected but still get the "Parsing..." message and nothing else happens.
Attempt 3
I have also tried going into my TWRP recovery and installing the Full Firmware zip AND the Radio 1.12.11.0809 Only.zip file but the installation fails.
Any pointers or a link to a video or a post would be much appreciated.
Thanks and sorry if this is a duplicate post but I really couldn't find any post that showed step-by-step process.
revert to stock and accept the ota, you can then fastboot recovery again and reflash. hboot 1.15 can not directly flash any firmware
edit: you may have to relock your hboot but ive seen users state they didnt. if you decide to relock the phone you will have to unlock the bootloader again to enable fastboot
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The easiest way to update your firmware is to revert to stock and accept the ota, you can then fastboot recovery again and reflash
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I don't have my stock backup anymore.
I've heard stuff about using RUU or something like that. Any quick guide on how to revert back to stock?
DO NOT UNROOT TO ACCEPT THE OTA OR RUU
I'd highly suggest just staying with your current radios and waiting for S-OFF before trying to update the radios. You can still flash the new ROMS in the meantime
You cannot update radios or firmware with Hboot 1.15 or 1.19------->Thats why it is suggested and not required
Rxpert said:
DO NOT UNROOT TO ACCEPT THE OTA OR RUU
I'd highly suggest just staying with your current radios and waiting for S-OFF before trying to update the radios. You can still flash the new ROMS in the meantime
You cannot update radios or firmware with Hboot 1.15 or 1.19------->Thats why it is suggested and not required
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Thanks for the warning.
Since I'm pretty new to all this, I'll play it safe and stick to what I have.
sorry guys internet crapped out and i got stuck trying to post lol. rxpert has a point but with so much negativity about s-off never coming I'm starting to consider taking the OTA.
also you should always have a back up, its your go to solution when nothing else seems to be working since its a back up of when everything was new and working be it stock or custom
The new radios aren't worth losing the possibility, no matter how small
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True...
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sorry guys internet crapped out and i got stuck trying to post lol. rxpert has a point but with so much negativity about s-off never coming I'm starting to consider taking the OTA.
also you should always have a back up, its your go to solution when nothing else seems to be working since its a back up of when everything was new and working be it stock or custom
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Just so I am clear, I too am 1.5 so if have my orginal rom, (the one after I unlocked my bootloader) i can restore it and accept the OTA without having to relock my phone? (it wont brick):good: Or do i have some other steps to take, I read the don't panic instructions, but it only mentioned what the OTA does ( relocks with a new rom) but nothing about what happens if I don't relock before I accept the OTA, I know i seem a bit slow, 4g lte isn't as interesting as OG 4g without S-off.
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Just so I am clear, I too am 1.5 so if have my orginal rom, (the one after I unlocked my bootloader) i can restore it and accept the OTA without having to relock my phone? (it wont brick):good: Or do i have some other steps to take, I read the don't panic instructions, but it only mentioned what the OTA does ( relocks with a new rom) but nothing about what happens if I don't relock before I accept the OTA, I know i seem a bit slow, 4g lte isn't as interesting as OG 4g without S-off.
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I havent yet done it myself but users have said they didnt need to relock, how ever as captain said there is no real need to update right now. If you decide to go ahead it would be a good idea to relock ( fastboot oem lock ) just to make sure, you can unlock afterwards. I neglect to mention this in my guide because most phones now are on 1.19 anyway and those still on 1.15 are holding out for soff
You will want to have the stock recovery to take the ota. Most people do this by relocking and running the ruu
Once again, I'm providing the info but I don't recommend it
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Rxpert said:
You will want to have the stock recovery to take the ota. Most people do this by relocking and running the ruu
Once again, I'm providing the info but I don't recommend it
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I am still researching how to relock without issues. I have my orginal rom but still leary about the entire relocking process. I was hoping i could restore to orginal sense rom, then take the OTA. otherwise I am looking for the simplest way to accompish the relocking task, but frankly nothing is easy when i comes to playing around with 4g lte, except it is rather difficult to brick. With my luck i might succeed in that LMAO
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I am still researching how to relock without issues. I have my orginal rom but still leary about the entire relocking process. I was hoping i could restore to orginal sense rom, then take the OTA. otherwise I am looking for the simplest way to accompish the relocking task, but frankly nothing is easy when i comes to playing around with 4g lte, except it is rather difficult to brick. With my luck i might succeed in that LMAO
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there is no simpler method for relocking hboot, simply fastboot oem lock
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there is no simpler method for relocking hboot, simply fastboot oem lock
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Used that and it worked great.
Evo 4G LTE
h-boot 1.19, s-on, HTCDev unlocked
I rooted my phone using the zedomax method on htcevohacks (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577)
The SW Version is: 1.22.651.3 71ORD
I now have an HTC update showing up (171.81MB) that does not have a cancel button. I was wondering what I need to do to apply it?
The phone is S-ON with HBOOT-1.15.0000
You need a stock Rom and stock recovery, relock bootloader and then you can accept ota
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You need a stock Rom and stock recovery, relock bootloader and then you can accept ota
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Thank you for the quick reply. I'm very new to this and have a few more follow on questions.
Will relocking return me to stock rom and stock recovery? How do I do it, via the HTCdev unlock bootloader method?
Once I've done that, accepted the OTA, will I be able to root again using the same method?
Also if I do a back up using titanium before the relock I should be able to get the phone back to the same state after, correct?
You need to flash the stock Rom and recovery before you relock. Relocking the phone will not give you a stock phone. You can use the ruu, relock the bootloader before running ruu
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You need to flash the stock Rom and recovery before you relock. Relocking the phone will not give you a stock phone. You can use the ruu, relock the bootloader before running ruu
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Thank you again
I'm unlocked but not s-off.
stock HTC Sense build that came with phone
Android 4.0.3
Sense 4.0
Software version 1.13.651.1
HTC SDK 4.2
So I've searched all over and its so scattered i don't know what to make of it.
If i take ota update what happens given my above specs? Lose root? Perm loss of s-off but can still root?
If it removes root privileges as a result or whatever, is there a method to get root back after the ota so i can wifi tether, etc?
If i don't take ota update is there a hacked zip package available i can run in recovery to get it up to date without causing ill effects?
And most importantly, going to a newer hboot and 4.0.4, does the end justify the means? Is there must haves in it that far out weigh the encumbrance of the process?
I know the easiest thing is go custom ROM, but I'm not looking to reinstall everything so that's why I'm hoping i can just ota or equivalent.
Thanks for any help!
Things are less of a hassle if you s-off your phone. I suggest you do that and then you can flash away. Never take an ota, not worth the risk.
metalfan78 said:
Things are less of a hassle if you s-off your phone. I suggest you do that and then you can flash away. Never take an ota, not worth the risk.
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^^^^^^ Agreed never take an OTA and go S-OFF while you still can alot of guys would kill to have your phone and have the ability to get S-OFF
Here's the stuff you gotta do to update firmware if you don't get s-off
Relock hboot and run ruu
Unlock hboot
Reflash recovery
Reflash superuser and busybox or custom rom
Or
Restore stock rom and recovery
Relock bootloader
Accept ota
Unlock hboot
Reflash recovery
Reflash superuser and busybox or custom rom
Do yourself a favor and get s-off
I made the mistake of thinking I would stay stock and not unlock my phone since I got the LTE. I should have know I would be right back to XDA devs. I did the OTA and now have to deal with not getting s-off fast booting my new kernals
s-off does sound the way to go and was my next step. You completely convinced me what direction I need to go.
Thanks for the replies so far!
Hi. I currently have a Rooted EVO 4G LTE, HBOOT 2.09 with JEWEL S-ON. Its running software version 3.15.651.16 on android 4.1.1. Im trying to download the OTA that came out january 31st, Without breaking my precious root. Ive heard the horror stories about rooted folks tryin to download the OTA, with their touch-screen enabled TWRP recoveries untouchable and their volume buttons unusable and i dont wana take any chances whatsoever with this particular OTA. What is the best way to download this? Should i go S-OFF and download? I'd appricate anyone willing to provide me step-by-step diections before i jack up my phone.
S-OFF is the best way to go it will save you so many headaches down the road.
If you choose to stay S-ON you will have to relock your bootloader and take the OTA from your phone and once complete unlock again (HTC-DEV) flash twrp again and install a Superuser app of your choice or flash a custom rom to gain root
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S-OFF is the best way to go it will save you so many headaches down the road.
If you choose to stay S-ON you will have to relock your bootloader and take the OTA from your phone and once complete unlock again (HTC-DEV) flash twrp again and install a Superuser app of your choice or flash a custom rom to gain root
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Ex. New firmware
Soff - flash firmware after a kind and knowledgeable xda member posts it.
Son - flash stock rom, flash stock recovery, oem lock, download and start ota, unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash root method or custom rom, fastboot 3.16 kernel (for tp support on custom rom), forget about aosp roms for the time being since new touch panel firmware borks touch screen.
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Ex. New firmware
Soff - flash firmware after a kind and knowledgeable xda member posts it.
Son - flash stock rom, flash stock recovery, oem lock, download and start ota, unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash root method or custom rom, fastboot 3.16 kernel (for tp support on custom rom), forget about aosp roms for the time being since new touch panel firmware borks touch screen.
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Thank you folks