Hi there guys!!! Thank you all in advance for all the great info and roms and tweaks this site has been providing me since my HTC Desire days.
So my question is this.I've rooted my phone.Then did a nandroid of my rooted stock rom. And then tried a couple of roms and now I'm back to the rooted stock rom(don't ask me why...maybe because I like all that 'jing bang' ). So now that I'm back on my rooted stock rom will I be eligible for OTA upgrades?? Or do I need to COMPLETELY return to stock taking the Odin route???
rohit19feb said:
Hi there guys!!! Thank you all in advance for all the great info and roms and tweaks this site has been providing me since my HTC Desire days.
So my question is this.I've rooted my phone.Then did a nandroid of my rooted stock rom. And then tried a couple of roms and now I'm back to the rooted stock rom(don't ask me why...maybe because I like all that 'jing bang' ). So now that I'm back on my rooted stock rom will I be eligible for OTA upgrades?? Or do I need to COMPLETELY return to stock taking the Odin route???
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I believe you will have problems with OTA updates, being rooted - they may download, but fail to install. Full Odin-able releases tend to appear at the same time as OTA updates, so if you want to keep root, I'd tend to use Odin/Mobile Odin to update,
Thnx a ton mate.
I think I'll be keeping a close eye on the official firmware release thread.
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well, i have an GS2 rooted (android 2.3.4) and sim unlocked with Galaxy S Unlocker.
if i upgrade to ICS when its released, do i loose root?
if I loose root, SuperOneClick will still work if my GS2 is ICS or do i need to wait to an update of SUperOneClick (to supor GS2 with ICS) to root my device again?
well, those are my questions.
thanks in advance.
source of update:
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h.t.t.p://skp.samsungcsportal.com/integrated/popup/FaqDetailPopup.jsp?seq=422548&cdsite=ph
1) Of course you'll lose root if you go back to stock.
2) Ask whomever developed SuperOneClick if it will work with ICS.
Zentik said:
well, i have an GS2 rooted (android 2.3.4) and sim unlocked with Galaxy S Unlocker.
if i upgrade to ICS when its released, do i loose root?
if I loose root, SuperOneClick will still work if my GS2 is ICS or do i need to wait to an update of SUperOneClick (to supor GS2 with ICS) to root my device again?
well, those are my questions.
thanks in advance.
source of update:
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h.t.t.p://skp.samsungcsportal.com/integrated/popup/FaqDetailPopup.jsp?seq=422548&cdsite=ph
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Or you can wait for an ICS custom ROM ...
Hi,
I've rooted my S2 with CF-Root 4.1 and I'm using a 2.3.5 SamFirmware ROM.
Can I just update over KIES when ICS comes out? Will the Kernel be replaced and what Files will be erased?
Greets
Facy87 said:
Hi,
I've rooted my S2 with CF-Root 4.1 and I'm using a 2.3.5 SamFirmware ROM.
Can I just update over KIES when ICS comes out? Will the Kernel be replaced and what Files will be erased?
Greets
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Yes, you will loose root when updating trough KIES.
Facy87 said:
Hi,
I've rooted my S2 with CF-Root 4.1 and I'm using a 2.3.5 SamFirmware ROM.
Can I just update over KIES when ICS comes out? Will the Kernel be replaced and what Files will be erased?
Greets
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If you have a rooted rom, if I remember well, Kies won't update your firmware... You have to use ODIN...
ok so just to make this 100% clear (i am a complete noob and i always make stupid questions, so flaming is accepted )
I have a Galaxy S2 with just rooted firmware (XWKJ1). I used an insecure version of this firmware to root the phone following the Odin/CF Root guide. Also I am not using any custom made rom like CM for example... If I upgrade my phone through Kies when the ICS update rolls out will I be able to complete the process succesfully?
Also from what I understand if the update procedure is completed succesfully I will lose root and will have to do the whole process all over again... Is there an insecure firmware matching the ICS firmware that will replace my old one?
Thanks in advance for your help...
pokkas88 said:
ok so just to make this 100% clear (i am a complete noob and i always make stupid questions, so flaming is accepted )
I have a Galaxy S2 with just rooted firmware (XWKJ1). I used an insecure version of this firmware to root the phone following the Odin/CF Root guide. Also I am not using any custom made rom like CM for example... If I upgrade my phone through Kies when the ICS update rolls out will I be able to complete the process succesfully?
Also from what I understand if the update procedure is completed succesfully I will lose root and will have to do the whole process all over again... Is there an insecure firmware matching the ICS firmware that will replace my old one?
You may get offered the ICS update via KIES only time will tell .
Is there an insecure firmware matching the ICS firmware that will replace my old one?
ICS is not yet released when its released kernels will be available .
jje
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hughfollett said:
If you have a rooted rom, if I remember well, Kies won't update your firmware... You have to use ODIN...
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Ok.. if i upgrade to ics with odin, i loose root too??
Zentik said:
Ok.. if i upgrade to ics with odin, i loose root too??
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Unless the ICS firmware you upgrade to is already rooted, then yes. You will lose root.
Just try Resurrectio Remix v9.6 by westcrip. Its the best ics rom right now.
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JJEgan said:
You may get offered the ICS update via KIES only time will tell .
jje
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Ok one more thing... If Kies doesnt work.. will it work through FOTA?
pokkas88 said:
Ok one more thing... If Kies doesnt work.. will it work through FOTA?
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Probably not but who knows until its released and OTA is actually working .We already know that root and custom roms will block access .
jje
ICS release
Seems like the updated will not happen tomorrow!!
assaf.bm said:
Seems like the updated will not happen tomorrow!!
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It was never guaranteed to be released worldwide on a single day anyways. Can you imagine the millions of I9100 users all trying to download the official ICS update via Kies at the same time? Their servers would have an aneurysm.
It would surely have been reposted for download though. Also, it was posted in various languages including English speaking Samsung sites.
I know that it is what it is and there's little point now, but I haven't had my ***** about it yet, except to my wife who is fairly confused about why this is such a disappointment for me.
Now I've had my little ***** attack about it not happening and will maintain it to this.
I dont understand why its such a big deal to get the update. Why not just flash a custom rom?
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kilometers4 said:
I dont understand why its such a big deal to get the update. Why not just flash a custom rom?
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I've been squeamish after many GB ones had serious issues, for example we'd forgotten our camera when my second kid was born by cesarian and I had a sleep of death on the phone - was doing a Nandroid restore of stock 10 minutes prior to entering the operating room. It saved the day.
That said, I flashed a custom ROM right after that last post and it's been really impressive. I haven't yet found an issue with it. Everything seems to be working really well and the battery life might even be a little better than the GB ROM I was using though it's still to early to say.
I get annoyed with all the banners and the immediate back patting when there's a new RoM that hasn't even been tested, but just to answer the question some people might be asking about which one I was impressed with, it was Resurection Remix. It also happens, thogh, to be the first one I flashed that was a Samsung based ROM opposed to AOSP.
It is still annoying though. I suspect Samsung is merely manufacturing their own hype about this, intentionally, and that is irritating.
Will AT&T GNotes running stock I717UCLA1 rooted by RoloRacer's method (no tripping of flash counter) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962 get the official AT&T OTA ICS update when available? Or will these phones need to be unrooted to get the update?
Thank you.
generally, rooted phones do NOT get OTA updates, but since this hasn't been released yet, no one can answer your question.
let us know if you get it when the ota gets released, ok?
wase4711 said:
generally, rooted phones do NOT get OTA updates, but since this hasn't been released yet, no one can answer your question.
let us know if you get it when the ota gets released, ok?
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Certainly!
I keep checking for an update daily, hoping that it will be available sometime this month. But, if it isn't here by the end of the month, I think that I will flash one of the custom ICS ROMs that are available.
If I decide to install a custom ICS ROM, will I need to first, unroot the device and then flash this new ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
mountainbound said:
Certainly!
I keep checking for an update daily, hoping that it will be available sometime this month. But, if it isn't here by the end of the month, I think that I will flash one of the custom ICS ROMs that are available.
If I decide to install a custom ICS ROM, will I need to first, unroot the device and then flash this new ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
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No. You will need to be rooted to get into CWM and load a ROM...if You dont have CWM installed, install it via Odin. Be aware though that this will trip the flash counter, but there are ways to remove that notification
na, just root your phone, and start flashing custom roms..
the dev's here will incorporate any changes/improvements from the official release into their base roms once it ACTUALLY comes out
there won't be anything unique in the "official" release that the dev's here won't be able to use, if its an improvement over what they are doing now..
I already have the phone rooted using the mashi root method listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962 Being a NOOB in the Android world, I'm not sure what needs to be done next to be able to intall the ICS ROM.
Since my Note is already rooted, can I install the ClockworkMod Recovery listed here, first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23170524 and then install this ICS ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
Thank you.
I installed ClockworkMod Touch Recovery last night with success! Now I plan on flashing ICS later today. I'm going to try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
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No. You will need to be rooted to get into CWM and load a ROM...if You dont have CWM installed, install it via Odin. Be aware though that this will trip the flash counter, but there are ways to remove that notification
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You don't need root for cwm. At all.
Download mode and recovery are underneath the os, only need root while inside Android itself
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You don't need root for cwm. At all.
Download mode and recovery are underneath the os, only need root while inside Android itself
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I feel like you've said that before...:banghead:
I have, a million times, and i will a million times more.
I installed ICS and it works GREAT!!!! Much faster than GB! Now I wish I had done it sooner.
Hi every one.
Got my s3 when it launched & rooted it with odin using the unlocked kernel? Can't remember exactly ?
My phone keeps telling me there is a software update, but it fails when I try install.
Looking for some advice on what I should do to update it. But obviously I don't want to lose root access.
Also jelly bean is due soon & I'm just wondering whether to wait till then?
Im currently using a stock Rom I think?
I really like the way I have it set up at the min & I'd like to keep it as close to how it is now on jelly?
Can you make a custom Rom from my phone & put it to jelly when it's released.
Any help or advice would be great.
Cos I'm totally lost to be honest?
there was a member who had a problem like this.
1-)people suggested him to flash a stock rom update it and root it again. ( of course do a nandroid backup or titanium backup )
then there will be no problems.
2-) you can choose to flash any available rom for your s3. directly put it in your internal sd and flash with cwm.
you can search that in forum.
P.S: Roms are for use of everybody, you can select what you want to install ( you dont need to search a Rom made for your phone )
OTA's don't work of you are rooted and running a custom recovery.
Flash the latest stock ROM via Odin and root it, but you won't get official OTA's when you are rooted.
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So flash back stock kernel through odin , update it & then re-root?
Can jb be rooted yet?
I might wait till jb is released officially, it's due in a few days isn't it?
Thanks for the reply guys but I'm still a bit unsure what I'm doing tbh .
I always take my time doing stuff like this cos I don't want to brick my phone?
Hey this may seem like a very dumb question. However as this is my first Android phone I thought I'd ask non the less.
I have a rooted GT-I9300 S3 running 4.0.4. I was looking at the 4.1.1 LH7 release, and was wondering if updating to this firmware via odin will undo the root on the phone or if it will remain rooted?
Apologies again for the stupidity of the question, maybe its just been a long day.
OTA updates
CF-Root v6.4 supports OTA updates to be flashed by the system, but when you flash an OTA, that OTA will probably replace recovery (and keep trying to do so at every boot). You need to re-flash CF-Root after applying an OTA. Just re-flashing CWM will not work and stock recovery will keep coming back.
How to install using: Mobile ODIN
Thank you for the speedy reply and help. Its like you created a new level of awesomeness. Thank you!!
My wife's Evo kept failing the 3.17 OTA so I moonshined it this week to allow her to get on latest firmware and software. She is stock other than S-off and root. I am fully aware that the firmware/radio and software are two different things. After getting S-off I flashed the current 3.17 bootloader firmware from Captain's thread and all went well and she is now on 1.13.11.0830 radio. Now I want to get her the software updates to move her from 3.16.651.xx to 3.17.651.4. My question is how to best do this. My thought is to flash the stock rooted deodexed rom but I didn't know if there was an alternative better way. Also, considering that an OTA upgrade of software is a dirty flash sort of, can I dirty flash stock rooted 3.17 over her current 3.16 without doing full wipe. Yes, I realize full wipe would be best and I am willing to do that if dirty flash is a mess. But, for time saving, is there any real danger in dirty flashing stock rooted 3.17 over her current stock rom with s-off and root? It just seems to me to be the rooted equivalalent of taking the OTA update.
Thanks for any advice.
evoimevo said:
My wife's Evo kept failing the 3.17 OTA so I moonshined it this week to allow her to get on latest firmware and software. She is stock other than S-off and root. I am fully aware that the firmware/radio and software are two different things. After getting S-off I flashed the current 3.17 bootloader firmware from Captain's thread and all went well and she is now on 1.13.11.0830 radio. Now I want to get her the software updates to move her from 3.16.651.xx to 3.17.651.4. My question is how to best do this. My thought is to flash the stock rooted deodexed rom but I didn't know if there was an alternative better way. Also, considering that an OTA upgrade of software is a dirty flash sort of, can I dirty flash stock rooted 3.17 over her current 3.16 without doing full wipe. Yes, I realize full wipe would be best and I am willing to do that if dirty flash is a mess. But, for time saving, is there any real danger in dirty flashing stock rooted 3.17 over her current stock rom with s-off and root? It just seems to me to be the rooted equivalalent of taking the OTA update.
Thanks for any advice.
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Your firmware is updated.
Software is based on the rom you are running if you flash a 3.17 rom you will be updated in that area also.
As for dirty flashing it's not a good idea to dirty flash when going to a new base
thanks bigdaddy, I appreciate the response. Is there any downside to being on older software and newer firmware? I thought Captain TB or someone had said that the firmware and software are optimized to work together and shouldn't be out of sync. If that is the case I probably need to bite the bullet and go ahead and wipe and flash the stock rooted deodexed rom to get her the software update.
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Your firmware is updated.
Software is based on the rom you are running if you flash a 3.17 rom you will be updated in that area also.
As for dirty flashing it's not a good idea to dirty flash when going to a new base
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Is it just me... Other than stock rooted 3.17, I'm not seeing any custom roms for this base. Im still using mean bean.
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lanewhit said:
Is it just me... Other than stock rooted 3.17, I'm not seeing any custom roms for this base. Im still using mean bean.
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I think it is kind of what bigdaddy was saying and what CTB has said...3.17 is the software update that brought the firmware update if done OTA. I believe what CTB did was extract the firmware so people could update the radio/firmware without installing the OTA or stock 3.17 ROM. So, you can have latest radio/firmware with CM10.2 for instance. In my case, my wife wants to keep stock as much as possible so I was trying to figure out best way to get her to most recent stock software without taking it OTA. I think the way to do that is going to be to flash 3.17 stock rooted rom. As you mentioned I haven't seen many/any roms built from 3.17 source if it has even been released at all yet. I moved to CM roms long ago and haven't used any Sense roms since meanbean 3.09 which last I checked hadn't been updated in months. There are plenty of CM10.2 based ROMs available that have tons of updates and fixes. I left my wife's stock because otherwise I get blamed every time Sprint or htc messes something up. This way I can say I didn't touch her phone. By s-off and rooting it and installing stock rooted deodexed I am opening myself back up to her wrath but so be it. It's better than her telling me 4 times a day that her phones says an update is ready but fails every time she tries to install it OTA. It's all about path of least pain. LOL.
I would flash the new rooted base. As I mentioned before, I'm on mean bean 3.09 with the updated firmware from the Captains thread and all has been working great.
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lanewhit said:
I would flash the new rooted base. As I mentioned before, I'm on mean bean 3.09 with the updated firmware from the Captains thread and all has been working great.
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Cool. Thanks for that info. I think I am going to do a twrp backup and a dirty flash of stock rooted first. I know that's not the best and most advisable route but dirty flashing is underrated. If things are wonky I will wipe and factory reset and flash again. Dirty flashing a new base on top of the old isn't THAT much different than getting the software update OTA. I trust dirty flashing more than I trust Sprint to be able to seamlessly deliver it. Probably do it tonight while she's asleep and see if she notices anything different tomorrow. I'll just blame Halloween spooks and goblins if things go wrong.