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This is a guide for tf201 owners of how to setup the Eeepad Asus Transformer Prime from scratch to get a most stable installation of the tf201 and to achieve comparable mass-testing-results based on a totally similar installation of the device. The setup helps people to get as much out of the device as the firmware of Asus offers. It’s by no means a fix for bad & wrong coding or defective hardware but it will resolve any update/ firmware or user induced mess with the os and will givepeople a fresh start for a clean setup.
As the rooting of the device presumably won’t void the guarantee but offers the ability to get much more out of it I decided to root with sparkym3’ root tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588&highlight=root+sparkym3
Currently I was running on firmware .28 (this works for any previous firmware)and this is a guide for the clean-setup of a rooted device.
Make sure to follow every step thoroughly if you need/ want to participate in mass-testings and share results.
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Only positive feed back on my guide but the rating is bad, come on guys don't be so stingy, help people identifying a useful thread.
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I hope my thread, being viewed over 5100 times, gives you guys an idea about how to treat your device. I am still happy with mine. Had to install 'browser to ram' though. I will update post #3 4v1.01) SETTINGS SETUP: very shortly, hopefully before JB, as then I will have to restart everything again....
1v.1.01) PREREQUISITES:
- Electricity
- Transformer Prime TF201, I recommend rooted so TitaniumBackup can be used
- Asus ac-connector
- Asus usb-cable
Make sure the battery is almost fully loaded.
2v.1.01) CLEANUP unrooted/rooted:
Load the battery first no matter what state your tf201 is in. You have installed a new update, a new rom from the Asus Homepage and or just want a clean start. You have done a backup of all your private data:
(if you are not rooted just skip step 2a2))
2a1v.1.01) Start cleaning your device. You have to get rid of every single app and every stock-update (except for rooted tf201; spare “TitaniumBackup”, and “Superuser") either in the menu “Settings/Apps/All” by going through every app and first of all “Stopping” it, if possible “ClearData” and “ClearCache” and then “Uninstall” it.
2a2v.1.01) (if rooted) clean with TitaniumBackup:
- Open “TitaniumBackup”
- Click on the “BatchBackup/Restore–ALL” Menu in the top right corner of the screen
- Scroll down to the section “Uninstall” and “Un-installAllUserApps”
- Scroll down to the section “ManipulateData” and “ClearCacheForUser&SystemApps”
- Scroll down to the section “ManipulateData” and “WipeDataForUser&SystemApps”
2a3v.1.01) Now you will do a “FactoryDataReset” in the menu “Settings/Backup&Reset". Don’t use the inbuilt “Google Backup&Restore” function as you want to redo everything from scratch. Just push the “Reset” button, put in your credentials, if you are prompted, and “Confirm”:
“EraseEverything”
The tf201 restarts twice now and the android-clown starts digesting the mess it is deleting and organising.
On my device this takes approx. 2 min. and the reboot takes another 2 min. Then you can start to initiate you Transformer again:
3v.1.01) INITIALISATION:
a) choose your country and push “Start”
b) choose your keyboard language /Input method and push “Next”
c) connect to your network and push “Next”
d) set date and time (choose “Timezone”, “AutomaticDate&Time” set “ON”) and push “Next”
e) sign into your Google-account
f) don’t join “Google+”, push “NotNow”
g) untick the 2 settings in “BackupAndRestore” and push “Next”
h) tick the 2 settings in “UseGoogleLocation” and push “Next”
i) push “Finish” and the Initialisation has completed
Now you see the all new os on your device. But it still has some old data fragments in use and
k) by pushing a pin in the reset-pinhole next to the microsd-card slot of the tf201 for more than 30 seconds you will delete old information which is kept back until the residual energy has emerged from the transistors of the mainboard.
The device reboots and you do another two reboots. Now your tf201 is as shiny as it can get and ready to eat mud again.
Sorry people: Forgot to mention that you should now also wipe your interior sdcard. lAt least all the data which has been put there by some app and isn't part of your precious digital collection. We want every app, stock or downloaded, to have a clean setup with no old data.
4v1.01) SETTINGS SETUP:
(This part hopefully gets structured when I go through the menu ...)
I now will check and define the stock settings point by point but out of curiosity I just went into the menu for a first glimpse:
"Settings/Wifi/Advanced(menu in the right top corner)/KeepWi-fiOnDuringSleep" is set on "Always" and yes, the battery-reading is confirming this too ("Settings/Battery" tap on the diagramm and you see the timeline of GPS/Wi-Fi/Awake/ScreenOn//Charging). Okay, I will change the Wi-Fi to "Never" and observe it .(previous setup has learned me Asus fixed this setting)..to be continued
5v1.02) NOTE:
You can do a backup of your device first so you always have the clean basis handy if needed. This guide is work in progress and I hope I get some additional information into it in time.
After having followed my guide twice and done every step as described my root was still there both times. But the previously not uninstalled 2 applications were gone.. So the next thing I will do, is; install "Superuser", “TitaniumBackup” and “RootExplorer”. Then I will do my backup.
Depending on what basis you have started setting up your prime you can swap certain steps to still experience the tf201 at its “best”. Different apps may set you back to deleting everything manually and following this guide.
This guide is set up from my experience with four pieces of the Asus tf201 species and the many hours I spent in this forum as well as on the phone with technicians of an Asus repaircenter. I put up my thread how it is convenient to me and I hope the xda-old-timers show their goodwill towards noobs like me and won’t kill it as well.
Hopefully its helpful to some of you gals and guys and you have years of fun with your chopping-boards.
6v1.01) TRHEADHISTORY:
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v.1.01 uploaded
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5v1.01 Note unloaded
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After having followed my guide twice and done every step as described my root was gone both times. And the previously not uninstalled 2 applications were gone as well. So the next thing I will do, is; reroot the device with sparkym3’ root tool (see op) and install “TitaniumBackup” and “RootExplorer”. Then I will do my backup.
Depending on what basis you have started setting up your prime you can swap certain steps to still experience the tf201 at its “best”. Different apps may set you back to deleting everything manually and following this guide.
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7v1.01) FAQ:
Q: How is this different from doing a factory reset? Why manually delete everything 1st? [email protected]
A: My experience (was on a previous build though) I still had apps like "superuser" showing up in the applist after a factory reset only. The "FactoryReset" needs to be prepared also! Actually before uninstalling you should turn off as many of the running processes in "Settings/Apps/Running"(push "ShowCachedProcesses" in the top right corner) and running services in "Settings/Apps/Running"(push "ShowCachedServices" in the top right corner) as you can without corrupting the preparation of the "FactoryReset". Then you will be able to delete even more app data and cache of stock apps. But I will leave it out for the moment and hope I won't stumble over this.
thanks for the tutorial.
Ummm - how is this different from doing a factory reset? Why manually delete everything 1st?
post 3 will be updated wip as is
john9 said:
thanks for the tutorial.
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clenz said:
Ummm - how is this different from doing a factory reset? Why manually delete everything 1st?
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My experience (was on a previous build though) I still had apps like "superuser" showing up in the applist after a factory reset only. The "FactoryReset" needs to be prepared also!
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My experience (was on a previous build though) I still had apps like "superuser" showing up in the applist after a factory reset only. The "FactoryReset" needs to be prepared also!
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That's because factory reset formats /data and /cache but does not touch /system. Easy way to fix that is just delete busybox, su and superuser.apk before factory resetting. Much faster than the cleanup section of your guide imo.
anyone with screen flicker/artifacts/audio skipping issue tried step by step of this guide, if yes, are those problems gone?
pandaball said:
That's because factory reset formats /data and /cache but does not touch /system. Easy way to fix that is just delete busybox, su and superuser.apk before factory resetting. Much faster than the cleanup section of your guide imo.
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I was reading in another thread the suggestion to wipe the data or factory reset, and then install the latest firmware version from the Asus site (which you would have preloaded on an external (? I've also read internal...) sd card). Would that take care of the system files in a more efficient way than going through and deleting each of them individually? Also, if the factory reset does wipe everything but system files, is there a need to manually remove non-system apps? Can I even get at the system files if I'm not rooted in order to remove them?
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anyone with screen flicker/artifacts/audio skipping issue tried step by step of this guide, if yes, are those problems gone?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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I was reading in another thread the suggestion to wipe the data or factory reset, and then install the latest firmware version from the Asus site (which you would have preloaded on an external (? I've also read internal...) sd card). Would that take care of the system files in a more efficient way than going through and deleting each of them individually? Also, if the factory reset does wipe everything but system files, is there a need to manually remove non-system apps? Can I even get at the system files if I'm not rooted in order to remove them?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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Yeah, because I've personally did a manual reinstallation of .28, full wipe and system wipe and it changed nothing.
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Yeah, because I've personally did a manual reinstallation of .28, full wipe and system wipe and it changed nothing.
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Exactly. This is a placebo effect. . If that really made a difference, don't you think Asus would have said something by now?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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I tried the procedure suggested by the OP (i never wiped after the update, only cold booted a few times yesterday because of the prime that seemed to be alive - see related thread), and now, after an all-day use (all my apps and games reinstalled) i can say that it's more smooth, wifi is a little better and my prime does not move by itself like it's alive ahah. But immediately after finishing the procedure i had persistent screen artifacts on the very left (never had them), but a cold boot solved. And, after that, 2 or 3 very little artifacts during the day, just like before doing this procedure. Never had ANR before and after this procedure.
So i think that there's nothing we can do about screen artifacts: somebody have them, somebody not. Every prime behave in a different way. I hope they can fix this annoying problem (which, incidentally, i never had before .28).
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doing a factory reset willl lose root right?
my Prime really needs a reset and fresh start everything is mess
brainimpact said:
doing a factory reset willl lose root right?
my Prime really needs a reset and fresh start everything is mess
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No, you won't lose root, but maybe you'll only have to reinstall superuser app.
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pandaball said:
That's because factory reset formats /data and /cache but does not touch /system. Easy way to fix that is just delete busybox, su and superuser.apk before factory resetting. Much faster than the cleanup section of your guide imo.
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You are probably right. I did this guide for non rooted user as well and today I don't see any other solution to get rid of all the old data than by deleting every single one. Suggestions to do a factory reset but not pointing out to prepare this factory reset and finalising it by the pinhole reset seem to be in use for a long time and show different results.
So I took another approach which has been very reliable for me. Thanks for your input
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anyone with screen flicker/artifacts/audio skipping issue tried step by step of this guide, if yes, are those problems gone?
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Yeah, because I've personally did a manual reinstallation of .28, full wipe and system wipe and it changed nothing.
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Maybe you try my description step by step and don't forget, very often you have to do a reboot after installing a new app.
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I was reading in another thread the suggestion to wipe the data or factory reset, and then install the latest firmware version from the Asus site (which you would have preloaded on an external (? I've also read internal...) sd card). Would that take care of the system files in a more efficient way than going through and deleting each of them individually? Also, if the factory reset does wipe everything but system files, is there a need to manually remove non-system apps? Can I even get at the system files if I'm not rooted in order to remove them?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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My guide starts after you have done the update. Now the trouble starts because even updated some apps still use old values. If you use the .zip-file to update you still should clean up everything after the installation and start with the procedure described from step 2 and not skip anything until you have done the pinhole-reset and two more boots. Now you are fine to start.
nyijedi said:
Exactly. This is a placebo effect. . If that really made a difference, don't you think Asus would have said something by now?
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As I stated earlier: I don't suggest to fix any coding problems. My guide just gives you a clean start. You don't sound like you have tried, haven't you?
jason1993 said:
I tried the procedure suggested by the OP (i never wiped after the update, only cold booted a few times yesterday because of the prime that seemed to be alive - see related thread), and now, after an all-day use (all my apps and games reinstalled) i can say that it's more smooth, wifi is a little better and my prime does not move by itself like it's alive ahah. But immediately after finishing the procedure i had persistent screen artifacts on the very left (never had them), but a cold boot solved. And, after that, 2 or 3 very little artifacts during the day, just like before doing this procedure. Never had ANR before and after this procedure.
So i think that there's nothing we can do about screen artifacts: somebody have them, somebody not. Every prime behave in a different way. I hope they can fix this annoying problem (which, incidentally, i never had before .28).
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda-developers app
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I am glad it helped you. Just to get it straight: You got the screenflicker before you finished my procedure! After the reboot it was gone and this is exactly why I suggest to do two more bootups after the 30 seconds pinhole-reset. Thanks for your feedback.
brainimpact said:
doing a factory reset willl lose root right?
my Prime really needs a reset and fresh start everything is mess
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No, you won't lose root, but maybe you'll only have to reinstall superuser app.
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[NOT CORRECT]Sorry to correct you but my root is gone, installing superusere won't help.
But you can regain root by using sparkym3 root tool mentioned in the ops.[/NOT CORRECT]
Edit: jason1993 is right, I have changed the op
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I am glad it helped you. Just to get it straight: You got the screenflicker before you finished my procedure! After the reboot it was gone and this is exactly why I suggest to do two more bootups after the 30 seconds pinhole-reset. Thanks for your feedback.
Sorry to correct you but my root is gone, installing superusere won't help.
But you can regain root by using sparkym3 root tool mentioned in the ops.
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You are right about the screenflicker, but i don't agree about root permissions. I didn't lose them after your procedure, i only had to reinstall superuser app to manage them, but i had them. I'm sure because the first thing after finishing the procedure has been reinstalling superuser app and then ezoverclock.
Anyway, after this procedure and the tweaks of the ATP Tweak app, screenflickering is almost fine.
can anyone else who tried this method play a video, be it youtube or any video files and see if there is any random loss of audio during playback for abt 1-2 sec
because i keep having this issue, regardless of the number of times ive rebooted my device
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You are right about the screenflicker, but i don't agree about root permissions. I didn't lose them after your procedure, i only had to reinstall superuser app to manage them, but i had them. I'm sure because the first thing after finishing the procedure has been reinstalling superuser app and then ezoverclock.
Anyway, after this procedure and the tweaks of the ATP Tweak app, screenflickering is almost fine.
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Oooops, I just found out: You are right, we don't loose root after the "FactoryReset". I apologize to you, great you insisted.
Will change it in the original post.
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can anyone else who tried this method play a video, be it youtube or any video files and see if there is any random loss of audio during playback for abt 1-2 sec
because i keep having this issue, regardless of the number of times ive rebooted my device
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Why don't you just try it yourself instead of keep asking? Your device will be cleaned an probably (hopefully) fixed. I don't have this audio loss problem at all.
because I've done many steps already to set my prime to default, as vanilla as stock as possible and the problems were never gone. i just dont wanna go thru another reset
Hi! I recently updated to JB 4.1 my Prime and i read a lot of post talking about wipe and factory reset. Many users say that the tablet is much faster if you do it, and now i don't know if reset or not.
I have some questions that maybe users with more experience could answer:
- I have root with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, will i lost it?
- I have a lot of apps instaled, which is the best way to backup and reinstall after? If i reinstall all apps, will get the same result like i already have now?
- Will i lost my setups?
- Is there any how-to guide that i can follow??
Thanks a lot!!!
I not lose root with wipe
I think titaniumbakcup.
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Thanks! Did you the wipe in ICS or after update?
How did you do it?
Thanks again!!!
nandolv said:
Thanks! Did you the wipe in ICS or after update?
How did you do it?
Thanks again!!!
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I did a factory reset after the JB update
I did lose root. But the improvement in smoothness and responsiveness was worth it. I still hope to get root back soon however.
I did not bother backing up apps. I just got them back from Google play after I was back on line. No big deal
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I did a factory reset after the JB update
I did lose root. But the improvement in smoothness and responsiveness was worth it. I still hope to get root back soon however.
I did not bother backing up apps. I just got them back from Google play after I was back on line. No big deal
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Thanks ratman6161 !! I think that will wait until there is a solution for keeping root. I use it for PS3 Sixaxis control Bluetooth...
I want to do the factory reset because i yet see ANRs with the browser...
Any idea to keep root??
Thanks a lot!!
You will keep root, in the sense that the su bin will still be present. All you need to do is re-install the superuser app and you should be good to go
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You will keep root, in the sense that the su bin will still be present. All you need to do is re-install the superuser app and you should be good to go
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Hi pandaball, but if you do a Factory reset, what it exactly does???
Thanks!!
It wipes /data, /cache and /sdcard, but it leaves /system intact and that allows the su binary to remain as it is.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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It wipes /data, /cache and /sdcard, but it leaves /system intact and that allows the su binary to remain as it is.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks!!!
My Approach
ICS
a. Root Tablet using fsdebug. I did not unlock Bootloader to maintain warranty
b. OTA Rootkeeper
c. Update to JB
JB
i. Try if you are satisfied with carried-forward update of JB.
If you seek improvements
ii. Factory Reset
iii. Once done, download OTA Rootkeeper. Restore Root.
iv. Superuser etc.
End of story.
Personal Opinion (No Benchmark etc)
I believe my way of benchmarking Prime is accurate up to 0.5 to 2 seconds. I'm not milliseconds-obsessed.
A. Prime is noticeably smoother. (Tip: Using Titanium Backup to get rid of bloatware. Asus has kept bloatware low. Kudos)
B. I still get ANRs (Dolphin Browser) but only with certain websites using like an endless chain of javascript
C. Adobe Reader is smoother now. Not as Ipad smooth but much better. A 120mb Magazine can be scrolled impatiently without waiting for images to load. (my time on each page is 1.0-2.5s/page)
D. Wifi and GPS are inherently hardware-related issues. So I won't speak about those.
E. Google now is fun and polishes the experience
F. I have not tried Games.
Conclusion
ASUS has improved Prime in terms of how it handles instructions. However I/O Speed remains limiting but to the casual (>95% users?), it is good enough.
Sometimes best isn't enough and some people just won't be satisfied with anything. For me, I used to look for the best, now I look for whats best for my needs.
Sorry for rambling >_<
mystril said:
My Approach
ICS
a. Root Tablet using fsdebug. I did not unlock Bootloader to maintain warranty
b. OTA Rootkeeper
c. Update to JB
JB
i. Try if you are satisfied with carried-forward update of JB.
If you seek improvements
ii. Factory Reset
iii. Once done, download OTA Rootkeeper. Restore Root.
iv. Superuser etc.
End of story.
Personal Opinion (No Benchmark etc)
I believe my way of benchmarking Prime is accurate up to 0.5 to 2 seconds. I'm not milliseconds-obsessed.
A. Prime is noticeably smoother. (Tip: Using Titanium Backup to get rid of bloatware. Asus has kept bloatware low. Kudos)
B. I still get ANRs (Dolphin Browser) but only with certain websites using like an endless chain of javascript
C. Adobe Reader is smoother now. Not as Ipad smooth but much better. A 120mb Magazine can be scrolled impatiently without waiting for images to load. (my time on each page is 1.0-2.5s/page)
D. Wifi and GPS are inherently hardware-related issues. So I won't speak about those.
E. Google now is fun and polishes the experience
F. I have not tried Games.
Conclusion
ASUS has improved Prime in terms of how it handles instructions. However I/O Speed remains limiting but to the casual (>95% users?), it is good enough.
Sometimes best isn't enough and some people just won't be satisfied with anything. For me, I used to look for the best, now I look for whats best for my needs.
Sorry for rambling >_<
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+1 to that
it's what is best for you that counts, not absolute best
I don't know what's happened, but when i was preparing my Prime to backup, and entered to Titanium, it shown a message saying that i had not root...
It's very strange because a few days ago, after updating to JB, i entered into a terminal end executed the order "su" without problems, and now i see the message "you don't have privileges"
Any idea??
Thanks a lot!
nandolv said:
I don't know what's happened, but when i was preparing my Prime to backup, and entered to Titanium, it shown a message saying that i had not root...
It's very strange because a few days ago, after updating to JB, i entered into a terminal end executed the order "su" without problems, and now i see the message "you don't have privileges"
Any idea??
Thanks a lot!
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is SuperUser installed?
what does OTA RootKeeper say? Is a rrot-backup there? is root available but SuperUser missing?
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beckzz said:
is SuperUser installed?
what does OTA RootKeeper say? Is a rrot-backup there? is root available but SuperUser missing?
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Yes SuperUser is installed, and i've tried to reinstall too.
OTA RootKeeper says "Device rooted (checked)" "Root permission granted (unchecked)" I have the option to temporary unroot and delete copy.
it's like this...
Thanks a lot!!!
nandolv said:
Yes SuperUser is installed, and i've tried to reinstall too.
OTA RootKeeper says "Device rooted (checked)" "Root permission granted (unchecked)" I have the option to temporary unroot and delete copy.
it's like this...
Thanks a lot!!!
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did you try to temp unroot and then root again?
if you can access su via ADB shell, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911261
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i was wondering about your screenshot..looks like its made with your cell, not the prime, right? but i think its just for illustration purposes.. ^^
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did you try to temp unroot and then root again?
if you can access su via ADB shell, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911261
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i was wondering about your screenshot..looks like its made with your cell, not the prime, right? but i think its just for illustration purposes.. ^^
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I'm gonna try ADB shell this weekend. I tried to temp unroot but i didn't see the re-root option...
The screenshot is from internet because i'm working now and i don't have the prime here XD
Thanks!!
nandolv said:
I'm gonna try ADB shell this weekend. I tried to temp unroot but i didn't see the re-root option...
The screenshot is from internet because i'm working now and i don't have the prime here XD
Thanks!!
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hehe, so good luck then! hope this will solve the issue for you
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nandolv said:
I'm gonna try ADB shell this weekend.
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If you can get the # prompt after su then you should be good to go. But be careful as the guide has a few typos - you need to replace the capital letters with lowercase or you will get errors: See this post.
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If you can get the # prompt after su then you should be good to go. But be careful as the guide has a few typos - you need to replace the capital letters with lowercase or you will get errors: See this post.
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nice hint...didnt even recognize it ^^
had some bad experience with copy/pasting commands...so i always type it on my own ^^
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If you can get the # prompt after su then you should be good to go. But be careful as the guide has a few typos - you need to replace the capital letters with lowercase or you will get errors: See this post.
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Thank U!!! I hope it works!!
I really this tablet but the big dealbreaker for me at this point is some basic apps are not compatible or at least play store think it is. Is there any way around this?
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I really this tablet but the big dealbreaker for me at this point is some basic apps are not compatible or at least play store think it is. Is there any way around this?
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Most of those that Play Store says are incompatible are not incompatible. It is just that the Nook HD/HD+ is not a device that should be accessing their site (it should be accessing B&N store). So just reading the characteristics of the device (screen size, density, and many other things), it does not know what to think, so it just says not compatible. Most of them will run. Just get them somewhere else, Amazon, 1mobile, sideloaded from other devices etc.
I only have found one app that would not run. Google Voice.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
Most will run I have only found 2 that will not, google voice and sim city.
Sent from my Rooted Nook HD+
I already posted this yesterday here, Chrome_18_0_1026320.apk from apktop says it missing something after installing. Already read somewhere about an older version which should work, but I haven't figured out which is the most recent one which does work. I want to install the latest working version.
I used this method for "incompatible device apps":
Some apps showed incompatible device on Play Store so I downloaded and installed them on to a rooted Galaxy SII phone using the Temp Unroot function. Then back-upped with Titanium Backup and e-mailed it by Gmail. Then download it to my at that point rooted HD+ (2.0.4). Apps still didn't work because my HD+ was rooted, but worked after the 2.0.5 update, as my HD+ isn't rooted any more at the moment. I think this workaround still works for many apps. (Only the root was lost after the update, so the rest still is working like before).
So some testing needs to be done before you can say an app really is incompatible. Would be good maybe to make a list of some apps, not?
Another APK that does not work...
Also I have tried to install Subway Surfer from 1mobile, google play store, and downloaded apk. In all three instances it installs and gets to start screen which lasts about 5 seconds. Then screen flashes and goes back to home or launcher. Really wish I could figure this one out. Two Nook HD's for the kids and most wanted game does not work. :crying: Jay
Jaysinet said:
Also I have tried to install Subway Surfer from 1mobile, google play store, and downloaded apk. In all three instances it installs and gets to start screen which lasts about 5 seconds. Then screen flashes and goes back to home or launcher. Really wish I could figure this one out. Two Nook HD's for the kids and most wanted game does not work. :crying: Jay
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That means it just will not run on your machine. Does the Play Store say anything about which versions of android it will run on? Stock is 4.0.4.
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Yeah it says 2.3.3 or higher. Forgot to mention my HD has the GAPPS, unknown sources, etc.
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I already posted this yesterday here, Chrome_18_0_1026320.apk from apktop says it missing something after installing. Already read somewhere about an older version which should work, but I haven't figured out which is the most recent one which does work. I want to install the latest working version.
I used this method for "incompatible device apps":
Some apps showed incompatible device on Play Store so I downloaded and installed them on to a rooted Galaxy SII phone using the Temp Unroot function. Then back-upped with Titanium Backup and e-mailed it by Gmail. Then download it to my at that point rooted HD+ (2.0.4). Apps still didn't work because my HD+ was rooted, but worked after the 2.0.5 update, as my HD+ isn't rooted any more at the moment. I think this workaround still works for many apps. (Only the root was lost after the update, so the rest still is working like before).
So some testing needs to be done before you can say an app really is incompatible. Would be good maybe to make a list of some apps, not?
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You're using gapps in the 2.0.5 update, but are you rooted?
Leapinlar, that's what has me baffled. The nook has 4.0.4 android yet a simple app that only requires 2.3.3 android will not work. I am sure it's just a setting that it doesn't like but I have tried it on both HD 's with the same results My nooks are not rooted but used your zips for stock. All other apps have installed and worked thus far. Do you have any idea what the app may be hanging up on with the nook? Thx
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You're using gapps in the 2.0.5 update, but are you rooted?
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Is he saying it is running because of losing root? You can test that by installing gapps without root. See my cwm thread to see how to get that.
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Hi, I have Subway Surfers running fine on my Nook HD+, it's ver. 1.6.0 dated 2nd January 2013. I've had it running on Cm10 and now CM10.1 roms fine.
Guessing here but it does have the option for in app purchasing, maybe that's why it's not liking it on the stock Tom with Gapps side loaded? It's a free app so can upload the APK if you like? Pm me if needed
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Hey I am thinking the issue may be that I am not fully rooted but rather did Leapinlar's stock zip flashes for unknown sources and such. Do you guys think using the universal root zip and flashing that may solve my issues? Also will running the universal root zip work now that I have already done the other GAPPS, Extras, Unknown Sources zip
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Hey I am thinking the issue may be that I am not fully rooted but rather did Leapinlar's stock zip flashes for unknown sources and such. Do you guys think using the universal root zip and flashing that may solve my issues? Also will running the universal root zip work now that I have already done the other GAPPS, Extras, Unknown Sources zip
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Yes, the root can be added later with no problem. You notice he said that app worked on CM10, not stock. I doubt if root will help. But you can try and if you decide you want to remove root, I have a zip for that too.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium
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Is he saying it is running because of losing root? You can test that by installing gapps without root. See my cwm thread to see how to get that.
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Yes I ended up doing this last night
Now I'm running 2.0.5 rooted with gapps installed, as well as running CM10 off of an 8GB MicroSDHC of mine
Thanks!
superflysocal said:
I really this tablet but the big dealbreaker for me at this point is some basic apps are not compatible or at least play store think it is. Is there any way around this?
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I've managed to use ES File Explorer to backup a couple of apps that the Play Store listed as "incompatible."
Plants vs. Zombies comes up as incompatible and I can't get ES to back it up.
Real Racing 2 comes up as compatible, but when you launch it the first time it wants to install additional files. That secondary step fails.
Further, i can't get ES to back it up either.
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Yes, the root can be added later with no problem. You notice he said that app worked on CM10, not stock. I doubt if root will help. But you can try and if you decide you want to remove root, I have a zip for that too.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium
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Great, being able to add AND remove root is what I was looking for, might have missed that while reading here. That would work like a "temp unroot", just not by a single click in an app, but that wouldn't be a big problem. So maybe it's time to give CM10 a try now.
Indeed some apps suddenly do work when your device is not rooted, so they do a check. Because I had them installed while being rooted and lost root because of the 2.0.5 update I could notice that they worked afterwards. On the rooted Galaxy SII I used the "Temp unroot" option in SuperSU, so I could install about all apps, those that need root access and those which don't want root access to install, run or both.
I do believe I used Titanium Backup while "Temp unroot" was on, while you only can install Titanium Backup on a rooted device as far as I know. Need to check this once more, it wasn't my phone I used.
Playing with and without root might be needed to see if some apps do or don't work on the HD+. At least by this you can out-rule whether being rooted or not is causing the app not to install and/or work.
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Great, being able to add AND remove root is what I was looking for, might have missed that while reading here.
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You did not miss it. It was probably not there when you read it. I am always changing and adding things to my CWM thread. You need to watch the change log in the second post of that thread.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium
Anyone else tried to run Words with Friends from CM10 SD card? It installs OK from the Google Play store, but locks up after 1 or 2 turns. If not for this, I'd have very little reason to ever boot back into stock OS.
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Leapinlar, that's what has me baffled. The nook has 4.0.4 android yet a simple app that only requires 2.3.3 android will not work. I am sure it's just a setting that it doesn't like but I have tried it on both HD 's with the same results My nooks are not rooted but used your zips for stock. All other apps have installed and worked thus far. Do you have any idea what the app may be hanging up on with the nook? Thx
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From the android log it would appear it's the ability of in-game billing causing the issue:
D/InAppBillingManager( 5896): AndroidBilling: No Billing Support Yet!
Not sure how to get around it but that seems to be the issue.
David
i would like to have your version of subway surfer, please can you upload it, and let me know how to retrieve it -- thanks
CharlesW123 said:
Hi, I have Subway Surfers running fine on my Nook HD+, it's ver. 1.6.0 dated 2nd January 2013. I've had it running on Cm10 and now CM10.1 roms fine.
Guessing here but it does have the option for in app purchasing, maybe that's why it's not liking it on the stock Tom with Gapps side loaded? It's a free app so can upload the APK if you like? Pm me if needed
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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I have noticed that if i enable javascript in the stock browser forum pages (xda and others) look bleached out (as if the page hasn't finished loading) the page works correctly but if i try to type the auto correction/prediction and spell checking dont work. Here a screenshot of what it looks like with java turned on.
Edit. As you can see from the tital auto correction/highlighting doesn't work. Tital shouls say "looks wrong".
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I have noticed that if i enable javascript in the stock browser forum pages (xda and others) look bleached out (as if the page hasn't finished loading) the page works correctly but if i try to type the auto correction/prediction and spell checking dont work. Here a screenshot of what it looks like with java turned on.
Edit. As you can see from the tital auto correction/highlighting doesn't work. Tital shouls say "looks wrong".
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That is a known problem with the old stock browser. You are still on 4.1.1 yes?
It is fixed in 4.2.1. I wonder if just the browser.apk from 4.2.1 would fix it for you?
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That is a known problem with the old stock browser. You are still on 4.1.1 yes?
It is fixed in 4.2.1. I wonder if just the browser.apk from 4.2.1 would fix it for you?
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when you say "old stock browser" what do you mean? it's the latest stock browser for the prime (v10.4.2.18-20121122).
If there is a 4.2.1 browser, say from the infinity, tf300 or from a similar droid, could I side load it with titanium backup?
Would the browser from a custom rom work?
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when you say "old stock browser" what do you mean? it's the latest stock browser for the prime (v10.4.2.18-20121122).
If there is a 4.2.1 browser, say from the infinity, tf300 or from a similar droid, could I side load it with titanium backup?
Would the browser from a custom rom work?
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When I say old stock browser I am referring to yours yes. That is the 4.1.1 rom which is the latest Asus stock rom but a lot of us are on custom roms based off the TF300 rom which is 4.2.1.
I have attached the browser.apk from the 4.2.1 rom for you to try. You will probably want to back up your existing one in /system/app and then copy this one over it. Clear cache and dalvik and give it a go.
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When I say old stock browser I am referring to yours yes. That is the 4.1.1 rom which is the latest Asus stock rom but a lot of us are on custom roms based off the TF300 rom which is 4.2.1.
I have attached the browser.apk from the 4.2.1 rom for you to try. You will probably want to back up your existing one in /system/app and then copy this one over it. Clear cache and dalvik and give it a go.
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cheers, I will give it a whirl now and report back.
Do you have any ideas for other parts of custom roms that we can apply?
Sound mod maybe?
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cheers, I will give it a whirl now and report back.
Do you have any ideas for other parts of custom roms that we can apply?
Sound mod maybe?
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Are you still locked then ?
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Are you still locked then ?
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Yes, me and probably hundreds of other too but its not by our choice as the. I have been stuck with a locked bootloader for nearly 16 months. I bought it in january last year, the first three month were normal (tf201 normal) since then it has spent most of the next 12 months touring europe, back and forth 5 times to asus service centre in the chzech republic, initally for a replacement screen (micro crack cause by dock, foc repair after a long battle) but 3 more times for badly fitted touchscreen and damage caused by asus's spanner monkies. The final rma was an attempt to repair the unknown network error when trying to unlock the bootloader (cause by the RMA).
I have now given up on ever unlocking the bootloader so the new root exploit is a big deal for meself and many others.:laugh:
I just tried the browser you gave me but it didnt work. I copied my browser apk to the sd card then copied your apk over mine in /system/apps but then browser icon disappeared from the app draw so no browser. When I restored the backup I made I still dont has the browser. If I try to install either apk the normal way I get a parsing package error message.
Like a spanner I didnt take a backup with titanium.
Whats the best way to restore this now?
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Yes, me and probably hundreds of other too but its not by our choice as the. I have been stuck with a locked bootloader for nearly 16 months. I bought it in january last year, the first three month were normal (tf201 normal) since then it has spent most of the next 12 months touring europe, back and forth 5 times to asus service centre in the chzech republic, initally for a replacement screen (micro crack cause by dock, foc repair after a long battle) but 3 more times for badly fitted touchscreen and damage caused by asus's spanner monkies. The final rma was an attempt to repair the unknown network error when trying to unlock the bootloader (cause by the RMA).
I have now given up on ever unlocking the bootloader so the new root exploit is a big deal for meself and many others.:laugh:
I just tried the browser you gave me but it didnt work. I copied my browser apk to the sd card then copied your apk over mine in /system/apps but then browser icon disappeared from the app draw so no browser. When I restored the backup I made I still dont has the browser. If I try to install either apk the normal way I get a parsing package error message.
Like a spanner I didnt take a backup with titanium.
Whats the best way to restore this now?
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When you say restored the backup did you overwrite the one that was there or did you delete it at any point first.. If you just deleted the old one and copied a new one in the permissions are going to be wrong. Have a look at what the other apks are set to.
Have you tried restarting after copying it over also?
I never realized you wasn't unlocked when I started. That is why I said to wipe cache and dalvik after putting it there. I thought you would have had a recovery.
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When you say restored the backup did you overwrite the one that was there or did you delete it at any point first.. If you just deleted the old one and copied a new one in the permissions are going to be wrong. Have a look at what the other apks are set to.
Have you tried restarting after copying it over also?
I never realized you wasn't unlocked when I started. That is why I said to wipe cache and dalvik after putting it there. I thought you would have had a recovery.
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It was the permissions. I have now got the orignial browser back but the 4.2.1 browser wont work even when I set the permissions correctly. I did try restarting.
What about a titanium backup of the 4.2.1 browser? Could that work?
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It was the permissions. I have now got the orignial browser back but the 4.2.1 browser wont work even when I set the permissions correctly. I did try restarting.
What about a titanium backup of the 4.2.1 browser? Could that work?
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I could try making a titanium backup for you I suppose but I wouldn't be able to back up data also for obvious reasons
I'm watching TV at moment tho so it will have to wait till later.
Thanks, take you time. I am off to bed soon (working early) so I will come out and play tommorrow. ;P
Take it easy.
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I am trying to get rid of the ota update notification on my nexus 10. It wants me to update to but I am rooted and do not want to lose my root. I have searched and searched and searched trying to find the answer to this but have not been able to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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If I'm posting in the wrong section please move.
I am trying to get rid of the ota update notification on my nexus 10. It wants me to update to but I am rooted and do not want to lose my root. I have searched and searched and searched trying to find the answer to this but have not been able to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Use OTA rootkeeper and then just update? If it's 4.3 you'll have to update to the new root service method, end of the day, it's a nexus, stop worrying about root because there isn't a nexus yet that isn't rootable on any software version.
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alias_neo said:
Use OTA rootkeeper and then just update? If it's 4.3 you'll have to update to the new root service method, end of the day, it's a nexus, stop worrying about root because there isn't a nexus yet that isn't rootable on any software version.
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Well I read that rootkeeper does not currently work with 4.3. I am fine with either getting rid of the notification or updating and keeping root but either way I have to keep root one way or another because I use root permissions on a daily basis to write to my external hard drive. If rootkeeper works with 4.3 then I would be happy to update and use that to stay rooted. As far as "updating root service method", what does this mean and what needs to be done to perform this? Thanks for your reply buddy!
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Well I read that rootkeeper does not currently work with 4.3. I am fine with either getting rid of the notification or updating and keeping root but either way I have to keep root one way or another because I use root permissions on a daily basis to write to my external hard drive. If rootkeeper works with 4.3 then I would be happy to update and use that to stay rooted. As far as "updating root service method", what does this mean and what needs to be done to perform this? Thanks for your reply buddy!
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No problem, basically,4.3 requires a service to run that will mediate superuser requests. It is neither here nor there to you as a user, do a quick search around for 4.3 root by Chainfire, it installs pretty much the same as any other root, but it uniquely addresses issues in 4.3 (new security).
I'd link you but I'm on my phone so easier to search on tablet or desktop.
It's really easy and I did it myself on my own nexus 10 soon as 4.3 came out.
FYI, complications such as those in 4.3 aside, it's always possible to root a device where flashing a custom built kernel is possible. In other words, unless the OS breaks the standard su/native/dalvik communication (kinda like 4.3 does) it will always, always, be possible to root a nexus device.
4.3 just makes it slightly more complicated because it disallows setuid (which allows recounting system read/write) from dalvik (android) apps. Fortunately, I assume, the workaround takes care of it by having a native "service" (that does have permission) take care of that part for us (the latter part is an educated guess).
Anyway, my longwinded point was that you should never deny yourself an android update an a nexus device, because anything is possible
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No problem, basically,4.3 requires a service to run that will mediate superuser requests. It is neither here nor there to you as a user, do a quick search around for 4.3 root by Chainfire, it installs pretty much the same as any other root, but it uniquely addresses issues in 4.3 (new security).
I'd link you but I'm on my phone so easier to search on tablet or desktop.
It's really easy and I did it myself on my own nexus 10 soon as 4.3 came out.
FYI, complications such as those in 4.3 aside, it's always possible to root a device where flashing a custom built kernel is possible. In other words, unless the OS breaks the standard su/native/dalvik communication (kinda like 4.3 does) it will always, always, be possible to root a nexus device.
4.3 just makes it slightly more complicated because it disallows setuid (which allows recounting system read/write) from dalvik (android) apps. Fortunately, I assume, the workaround takes care of it by having a native "service" (that does have permission) take care of that part for us (the latter part is an educated guess).
Anyway, my longwinded point was that you should never deny yourself an android update an a nexus device, because anything is possible
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Thank you for the explanation. I am going to do some research when I get home and decide what I am going to do. I will post if I have any further questions, as I am sure I will lol. Thanks again!
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Well I read that rootkeeper does not currently work with 4.3. I am fine with either getting rid of the notification or updating and keeping root but either way I have to keep root one way or another because I use root permissions on a daily basis to write to my external hard drive. If rootkeeper works with 4.3 then I would be happy to update and use that to stay rooted. As far as "updating root service method", what does this mean and what needs to be done to perform this? Thanks for your reply buddy!
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Just thought that I would mention:
4.3 brought OTG drivers to the Nexus 10. NATIVELY. No more Root needed, IIRC.
CWalkop said:
Just thought that I would mention:
4.3 brought OTG drivers to the Nexus 10. NATIVELY. No more Root needed, IIRC.
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Does this include write permissions? I download a lot of media on my N10 and then transfer it to my hard drive for safe keeping.