Hi! I recently updated to JB 4.1 my Prime and i read a lot of post talking about wipe and factory reset. Many users say that the tablet is much faster if you do it, and now i don't know if reset or not.
I have some questions that maybe users with more experience could answer:
- I have root with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, will i lost it?
- I have a lot of apps instaled, which is the best way to backup and reinstall after? If i reinstall all apps, will get the same result like i already have now?
- Will i lost my setups?
- Is there any how-to guide that i can follow??
Thanks a lot!!!
I not lose root with wipe
I think titaniumbakcup.
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Thanks! Did you the wipe in ICS or after update?
How did you do it?
Thanks again!!!
nandolv said:
Thanks! Did you the wipe in ICS or after update?
How did you do it?
Thanks again!!!
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I did a factory reset after the JB update
I did lose root. But the improvement in smoothness and responsiveness was worth it. I still hope to get root back soon however.
I did not bother backing up apps. I just got them back from Google play after I was back on line. No big deal
ratman6161 said:
I did a factory reset after the JB update
I did lose root. But the improvement in smoothness and responsiveness was worth it. I still hope to get root back soon however.
I did not bother backing up apps. I just got them back from Google play after I was back on line. No big deal
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Thanks ratman6161 !! I think that will wait until there is a solution for keeping root. I use it for PS3 Sixaxis control Bluetooth...
I want to do the factory reset because i yet see ANRs with the browser...
Any idea to keep root??
Thanks a lot!!
You will keep root, in the sense that the su bin will still be present. All you need to do is re-install the superuser app and you should be good to go
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You will keep root, in the sense that the su bin will still be present. All you need to do is re-install the superuser app and you should be good to go
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Hi pandaball, but if you do a Factory reset, what it exactly does???
Thanks!!
It wipes /data, /cache and /sdcard, but it leaves /system intact and that allows the su binary to remain as it is.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
pandaball said:
It wipes /data, /cache and /sdcard, but it leaves /system intact and that allows the su binary to remain as it is.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks!!!
My Approach
ICS
a. Root Tablet using fsdebug. I did not unlock Bootloader to maintain warranty
b. OTA Rootkeeper
c. Update to JB
JB
i. Try if you are satisfied with carried-forward update of JB.
If you seek improvements
ii. Factory Reset
iii. Once done, download OTA Rootkeeper. Restore Root.
iv. Superuser etc.
End of story.
Personal Opinion (No Benchmark etc)
I believe my way of benchmarking Prime is accurate up to 0.5 to 2 seconds. I'm not milliseconds-obsessed.
A. Prime is noticeably smoother. (Tip: Using Titanium Backup to get rid of bloatware. Asus has kept bloatware low. Kudos)
B. I still get ANRs (Dolphin Browser) but only with certain websites using like an endless chain of javascript
C. Adobe Reader is smoother now. Not as Ipad smooth but much better. A 120mb Magazine can be scrolled impatiently without waiting for images to load. (my time on each page is 1.0-2.5s/page)
D. Wifi and GPS are inherently hardware-related issues. So I won't speak about those.
E. Google now is fun and polishes the experience
F. I have not tried Games.
Conclusion
ASUS has improved Prime in terms of how it handles instructions. However I/O Speed remains limiting but to the casual (>95% users?), it is good enough.
Sometimes best isn't enough and some people just won't be satisfied with anything. For me, I used to look for the best, now I look for whats best for my needs.
Sorry for rambling >_<
mystril said:
My Approach
ICS
a. Root Tablet using fsdebug. I did not unlock Bootloader to maintain warranty
b. OTA Rootkeeper
c. Update to JB
JB
i. Try if you are satisfied with carried-forward update of JB.
If you seek improvements
ii. Factory Reset
iii. Once done, download OTA Rootkeeper. Restore Root.
iv. Superuser etc.
End of story.
Personal Opinion (No Benchmark etc)
I believe my way of benchmarking Prime is accurate up to 0.5 to 2 seconds. I'm not milliseconds-obsessed.
A. Prime is noticeably smoother. (Tip: Using Titanium Backup to get rid of bloatware. Asus has kept bloatware low. Kudos)
B. I still get ANRs (Dolphin Browser) but only with certain websites using like an endless chain of javascript
C. Adobe Reader is smoother now. Not as Ipad smooth but much better. A 120mb Magazine can be scrolled impatiently without waiting for images to load. (my time on each page is 1.0-2.5s/page)
D. Wifi and GPS are inherently hardware-related issues. So I won't speak about those.
E. Google now is fun and polishes the experience
F. I have not tried Games.
Conclusion
ASUS has improved Prime in terms of how it handles instructions. However I/O Speed remains limiting but to the casual (>95% users?), it is good enough.
Sometimes best isn't enough and some people just won't be satisfied with anything. For me, I used to look for the best, now I look for whats best for my needs.
Sorry for rambling >_<
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+1 to that
it's what is best for you that counts, not absolute best
I don't know what's happened, but when i was preparing my Prime to backup, and entered to Titanium, it shown a message saying that i had not root...
It's very strange because a few days ago, after updating to JB, i entered into a terminal end executed the order "su" without problems, and now i see the message "you don't have privileges"
Any idea??
Thanks a lot!
nandolv said:
I don't know what's happened, but when i was preparing my Prime to backup, and entered to Titanium, it shown a message saying that i had not root...
It's very strange because a few days ago, after updating to JB, i entered into a terminal end executed the order "su" without problems, and now i see the message "you don't have privileges"
Any idea??
Thanks a lot!
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is SuperUser installed?
what does OTA RootKeeper say? Is a rrot-backup there? is root available but SuperUser missing?
Grz
beckzz said:
is SuperUser installed?
what does OTA RootKeeper say? Is a rrot-backup there? is root available but SuperUser missing?
Grz
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Yes SuperUser is installed, and i've tried to reinstall too.
OTA RootKeeper says "Device rooted (checked)" "Root permission granted (unchecked)" I have the option to temporary unroot and delete copy.
it's like this...
Thanks a lot!!!
nandolv said:
Yes SuperUser is installed, and i've tried to reinstall too.
OTA RootKeeper says "Device rooted (checked)" "Root permission granted (unchecked)" I have the option to temporary unroot and delete copy.
it's like this...
Thanks a lot!!!
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did you try to temp unroot and then root again?
if you can access su via ADB shell, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911261
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i was wondering about your screenshot..looks like its made with your cell, not the prime, right? but i think its just for illustration purposes.. ^^
Grz
beckzz said:
did you try to temp unroot and then root again?
if you can access su via ADB shell, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911261
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i was wondering about your screenshot..looks like its made with your cell, not the prime, right? but i think its just for illustration purposes.. ^^
Grz
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I'm gonna try ADB shell this weekend. I tried to temp unroot but i didn't see the re-root option...
The screenshot is from internet because i'm working now and i don't have the prime here XD
Thanks!!
nandolv said:
I'm gonna try ADB shell this weekend. I tried to temp unroot but i didn't see the re-root option...
The screenshot is from internet because i'm working now and i don't have the prime here XD
Thanks!!
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hehe, so good luck then! hope this will solve the issue for you
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nandolv said:
I'm gonna try ADB shell this weekend.
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If you can get the # prompt after su then you should be good to go. But be careful as the guide has a few typos - you need to replace the capital letters with lowercase or you will get errors: See this post.
Restorer said:
If you can get the # prompt after su then you should be good to go. But be careful as the guide has a few typos - you need to replace the capital letters with lowercase or you will get errors: See this post.
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nice hint...didnt even recognize it ^^
had some bad experience with copy/pasting commands...so i always type it on my own ^^
Restorer said:
If you can get the # prompt after su then you should be good to go. But be careful as the guide has a few typos - you need to replace the capital letters with lowercase or you will get errors: See this post.
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Thank U!!! I hope it works!!
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Before I get flamed for not searching, I have and I was unable to post a question to the forum from which my question originated. Basically I need some help with installing the root using a Mac. I don't know how to make sure the root has taken place. I already have the bootloader unlocked and now I am trying to get the "perma root" to take. I get the root confirmation, all the way to the "GG!!" line at the end. However I don't know what/how to proceed. Any guidance would be great! Thanks guys!
If your not sure if you have root, download 'Terminal Emulator' from the market, type in SU, hit enter, and it should ask for superuser rights. If it does, hit yes. This means you have root.
If it says access denied, then you dont have root.
good luck man
Might I ask how you went about the unlocking-bootlader process on a mac? I'm stuck at this step (I know my way around everything else, but haven't used the terminal since the N1 days).
Also, check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310115 mac version posted.
Figured it out...bad download on my part.
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do you already try the gingerbreak?
eclipsex2 said:
do you already try the gingerbreak?
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^^dont do this^^
alx294 said:
If your not sure if you have root, download 'Terminal Emulator' from the market, type in SU, hit enter, and it should ask for superuser rights. If it does, hit yes. This means you have root.
If it says access denied, then you dont have root.
good luck man
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Ok, I did this, and it worked. So I have a permanently rooted device. Now I just need to know how to delete the extra bloatware that I despise so much! any suggestions?!
HTC_Amaze_nOOb said:
Ok, I did this, and it worked. So I have a permanently rooted device. Now I just need to know how to delete the extra bloatware that I despise so much! any suggestions?!
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So many options out there.
I used MyBackup Pro to Freeze the bloatware. No point on me uninstalling them really. I have plenty of space. A few megs won't make a big difference in my opinion.
HTC_Amaze_nOOb said:
Ok, I did this, and it worked. So I have a permanently rooted device. Now I just need to know how to delete the extra bloatware that I despise so much! any suggestions?!
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I used sysappremover. It also allows freeze and move to sd I believe.
I am proud to present you with: Nook Tablet Unrooter One click APP!
By Indirect
Information?: Well, the way to best unroot the nook tablet (as it's easy to see if you have done mods to it) is to do a factory system restore, so I decided why not exploit that and make it into an application? Well that's exactly what I did and best of all, it's 1 click (technically 3 but i don't count accepting SU permissions as part of the app). You need to grant SU both times it asks for it to automatically reboot.
Code:
//I take no responsibility what happens with this application or your device and assume that any problem during this process if user fault.
//
Download link?:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15069134/Nookunrooter.apk
Instructions?:
Install app, open, click button, grant SU permissions (twice), and let it restore. That's about it.
Warnings?:
You WILL lose ALL data on the tablet except the Sdcard. Be sure to back everything up using titanium backup.
Changelog?:
Code:
1.2: Initial release
Credits?:
Code:
Dodgejcr for his code on github so I just had to change a few things as well as his help in IRC. Thanks man
Myself for rewriting parts of the app to be a one click unroot for the nook tablet
Added the download link meaning it's live! I tested on my device and it worked flawlessly!
Reserved as well
Thanks for this, I have it downloaded as a just in case. Seems much simpler than the 8 or 10 failed boot techniques.
Dumb question, but I am assuming this has been tested on an actual NT?
kes00601 said:
Thanks for this, I have it downloaded as a just in case. Seems much simpler than the 8 or 10 failed boot techniques.
Dumb question, but I am assuming this has been tested on an actual NT?
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Yeah, tested it on mine last night before release.
This does indeed work although it didn't reboot my Nook Tablet automatically. After I clicked on Unroot Device, it didn't automatically reboot. I tried rebooting it myself and then it began the process of restoring to factory. When it booted back it it was indeed unrooted. Or at least I think it is.
Is there anyway to verify that is truly is unrooted?
kingbobyjr said:
This does indeed work although it didn't reboot my Nook Tablet automatically. After I clicked on Unroot Device, it didn't automatically reboot. I tried rebooting it myself and then it began the process of restoring to factory. When it booted back it it was indeed unrooted. Or at least I think it is.
Is there anyway to verify that is truly is unrooted?
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Get terminal emulator apk and then type su
if you get permission denied, it's unrooted. I know it's unrooted since I had to re-root.
Edit: The developer and I are working on it.
Updated app to now properly reboot the device.
Indirect said:
Updated app to now properly reboot the device.
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BAD ASS!
Just outa curiosity are you doing a QF or a FF (quick format or factory format)
Loglud said:
BAD ASS!
Just outa curiosity are you doing a QF or a FF (quick format or factory format)
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Factory Format.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjxZxHoUsY
suicideclown said:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjxZxHoUsY
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I know this is off-topic, but what launcher are you using there?
kes00601 said:
I know this is off-topic, but what launcher are you using there?
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ADW Launcher. It is what I use on my transformer and phone.
suicideclown said:
ADW Launcher. It is what I use on my transformer and phone.
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Thanks much. Just happened to see the EX version of ADW.Launcher is 10 cents today, so went ahead and bought it.
kes00601 said:
Thanks much. Just happened to see the EX version of ADW.Launcher is 10 cents today, so went ahead and bought it.
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Good spotting! Thanks for the tip!
nookabee said:
Good spotting! Thanks for the tip!
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We are in the 10 days christmas sale for android market. There are a selection of apps each day that are 10 cents each. If you haven't seen that, make sure you take advantage of it. Someone already made a thread about it, but it sounds like you haven't seen it yet.
Guy, stay on topic please
Sent by breaking the sound barrier
minor concern
reverse back to factory stock without a hitch. Got all my paid content back after clicking on them one by one. Good deal.
Just curious though, will registering the same device multiple times raise a red flag with BN?
I press unroot and it just sits there. It does not reboot. I manually shutdown and startup and it does not run the wipe. Any suggestions to full unroot and wipe.
Bmeyer, run adb shell then type
Code:
su
echo -n 0000 /bootdata/BootCnt
reboot
This is a guide for tf201 owners of how to setup the Eeepad Asus Transformer Prime from scratch to get a most stable installation of the tf201 and to achieve comparable mass-testing-results based on a totally similar installation of the device. The setup helps people to get as much out of the device as the firmware of Asus offers. It’s by no means a fix for bad & wrong coding or defective hardware but it will resolve any update/ firmware or user induced mess with the os and will givepeople a fresh start for a clean setup.
As the rooting of the device presumably won’t void the guarantee but offers the ability to get much more out of it I decided to root with sparkym3’ root tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588&highlight=root+sparkym3
Currently I was running on firmware .28 (this works for any previous firmware)and this is a guide for the clean-setup of a rooted device.
Make sure to follow every step thoroughly if you need/ want to participate in mass-testings and share results.
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Only positive feed back on my guide but the rating is bad, come on guys don't be so stingy, help people identifying a useful thread.
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I hope my thread, being viewed over 5100 times, gives you guys an idea about how to treat your device. I am still happy with mine. Had to install 'browser to ram' though. I will update post #3 4v1.01) SETTINGS SETUP: very shortly, hopefully before JB, as then I will have to restart everything again....
1v.1.01) PREREQUISITES:
- Electricity
- Transformer Prime TF201, I recommend rooted so TitaniumBackup can be used
- Asus ac-connector
- Asus usb-cable
Make sure the battery is almost fully loaded.
2v.1.01) CLEANUP unrooted/rooted:
Load the battery first no matter what state your tf201 is in. You have installed a new update, a new rom from the Asus Homepage and or just want a clean start. You have done a backup of all your private data:
(if you are not rooted just skip step 2a2))
2a1v.1.01) Start cleaning your device. You have to get rid of every single app and every stock-update (except for rooted tf201; spare “TitaniumBackup”, and “Superuser") either in the menu “Settings/Apps/All” by going through every app and first of all “Stopping” it, if possible “ClearData” and “ClearCache” and then “Uninstall” it.
2a2v.1.01) (if rooted) clean with TitaniumBackup:
- Open “TitaniumBackup”
- Click on the “BatchBackup/Restore–ALL” Menu in the top right corner of the screen
- Scroll down to the section “Uninstall” and “Un-installAllUserApps”
- Scroll down to the section “ManipulateData” and “ClearCacheForUser&SystemApps”
- Scroll down to the section “ManipulateData” and “WipeDataForUser&SystemApps”
2a3v.1.01) Now you will do a “FactoryDataReset” in the menu “Settings/Backup&Reset". Don’t use the inbuilt “Google Backup&Restore” function as you want to redo everything from scratch. Just push the “Reset” button, put in your credentials, if you are prompted, and “Confirm”:
“EraseEverything”
The tf201 restarts twice now and the android-clown starts digesting the mess it is deleting and organising.
On my device this takes approx. 2 min. and the reboot takes another 2 min. Then you can start to initiate you Transformer again:
3v.1.01) INITIALISATION:
a) choose your country and push “Start”
b) choose your keyboard language /Input method and push “Next”
c) connect to your network and push “Next”
d) set date and time (choose “Timezone”, “AutomaticDate&Time” set “ON”) and push “Next”
e) sign into your Google-account
f) don’t join “Google+”, push “NotNow”
g) untick the 2 settings in “BackupAndRestore” and push “Next”
h) tick the 2 settings in “UseGoogleLocation” and push “Next”
i) push “Finish” and the Initialisation has completed
Now you see the all new os on your device. But it still has some old data fragments in use and
k) by pushing a pin in the reset-pinhole next to the microsd-card slot of the tf201 for more than 30 seconds you will delete old information which is kept back until the residual energy has emerged from the transistors of the mainboard.
The device reboots and you do another two reboots. Now your tf201 is as shiny as it can get and ready to eat mud again.
Sorry people: Forgot to mention that you should now also wipe your interior sdcard. lAt least all the data which has been put there by some app and isn't part of your precious digital collection. We want every app, stock or downloaded, to have a clean setup with no old data.
4v1.01) SETTINGS SETUP:
(This part hopefully gets structured when I go through the menu ...)
I now will check and define the stock settings point by point but out of curiosity I just went into the menu for a first glimpse:
"Settings/Wifi/Advanced(menu in the right top corner)/KeepWi-fiOnDuringSleep" is set on "Always" and yes, the battery-reading is confirming this too ("Settings/Battery" tap on the diagramm and you see the timeline of GPS/Wi-Fi/Awake/ScreenOn//Charging). Okay, I will change the Wi-Fi to "Never" and observe it .(previous setup has learned me Asus fixed this setting)..to be continued
5v1.02) NOTE:
You can do a backup of your device first so you always have the clean basis handy if needed. This guide is work in progress and I hope I get some additional information into it in time.
After having followed my guide twice and done every step as described my root was still there both times. But the previously not uninstalled 2 applications were gone.. So the next thing I will do, is; install "Superuser", “TitaniumBackup” and “RootExplorer”. Then I will do my backup.
Depending on what basis you have started setting up your prime you can swap certain steps to still experience the tf201 at its “best”. Different apps may set you back to deleting everything manually and following this guide.
This guide is set up from my experience with four pieces of the Asus tf201 species and the many hours I spent in this forum as well as on the phone with technicians of an Asus repaircenter. I put up my thread how it is convenient to me and I hope the xda-old-timers show their goodwill towards noobs like me and won’t kill it as well.
Hopefully its helpful to some of you gals and guys and you have years of fun with your chopping-boards.
6v1.01) TRHEADHISTORY:
120629:
v.1.01 uploaded
120701:
5v1.01 Note unloaded
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After having followed my guide twice and done every step as described my root was gone both times. And the previously not uninstalled 2 applications were gone as well. So the next thing I will do, is; reroot the device with sparkym3’ root tool (see op) and install “TitaniumBackup” and “RootExplorer”. Then I will do my backup.
Depending on what basis you have started setting up your prime you can swap certain steps to still experience the tf201 at its “best”. Different apps may set you back to deleting everything manually and following this guide.
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7v1.01) FAQ:
Q: How is this different from doing a factory reset? Why manually delete everything 1st? [email protected]
A: My experience (was on a previous build though) I still had apps like "superuser" showing up in the applist after a factory reset only. The "FactoryReset" needs to be prepared also! Actually before uninstalling you should turn off as many of the running processes in "Settings/Apps/Running"(push "ShowCachedProcesses" in the top right corner) and running services in "Settings/Apps/Running"(push "ShowCachedServices" in the top right corner) as you can without corrupting the preparation of the "FactoryReset". Then you will be able to delete even more app data and cache of stock apps. But I will leave it out for the moment and hope I won't stumble over this.
thanks for the tutorial.
Ummm - how is this different from doing a factory reset? Why manually delete everything 1st?
post 3 will be updated wip as is
john9 said:
thanks for the tutorial.
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clenz said:
Ummm - how is this different from doing a factory reset? Why manually delete everything 1st?
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My experience (was on a previous build though) I still had apps like "superuser" showing up in the applist after a factory reset only. The "FactoryReset" needs to be prepared also!
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My experience (was on a previous build though) I still had apps like "superuser" showing up in the applist after a factory reset only. The "FactoryReset" needs to be prepared also!
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That's because factory reset formats /data and /cache but does not touch /system. Easy way to fix that is just delete busybox, su and superuser.apk before factory resetting. Much faster than the cleanup section of your guide imo.
anyone with screen flicker/artifacts/audio skipping issue tried step by step of this guide, if yes, are those problems gone?
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That's because factory reset formats /data and /cache but does not touch /system. Easy way to fix that is just delete busybox, su and superuser.apk before factory resetting. Much faster than the cleanup section of your guide imo.
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I was reading in another thread the suggestion to wipe the data or factory reset, and then install the latest firmware version from the Asus site (which you would have preloaded on an external (? I've also read internal...) sd card). Would that take care of the system files in a more efficient way than going through and deleting each of them individually? Also, if the factory reset does wipe everything but system files, is there a need to manually remove non-system apps? Can I even get at the system files if I'm not rooted in order to remove them?
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MXR2 said:
anyone with screen flicker/artifacts/audio skipping issue tried step by step of this guide, if yes, are those problems gone?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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I was reading in another thread the suggestion to wipe the data or factory reset, and then install the latest firmware version from the Asus site (which you would have preloaded on an external (? I've also read internal...) sd card). Would that take care of the system files in a more efficient way than going through and deleting each of them individually? Also, if the factory reset does wipe everything but system files, is there a need to manually remove non-system apps? Can I even get at the system files if I'm not rooted in order to remove them?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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Yeah, because I've personally did a manual reinstallation of .28, full wipe and system wipe and it changed nothing.
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Yeah, because I've personally did a manual reinstallation of .28, full wipe and system wipe and it changed nothing.
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Exactly. This is a placebo effect. . If that really made a difference, don't you think Asus would have said something by now?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
MiscBec said:
I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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I tried the procedure suggested by the OP (i never wiped after the update, only cold booted a few times yesterday because of the prime that seemed to be alive - see related thread), and now, after an all-day use (all my apps and games reinstalled) i can say that it's more smooth, wifi is a little better and my prime does not move by itself like it's alive ahah. But immediately after finishing the procedure i had persistent screen artifacts on the very left (never had them), but a cold boot solved. And, after that, 2 or 3 very little artifacts during the day, just like before doing this procedure. Never had ANR before and after this procedure.
So i think that there's nothing we can do about screen artifacts: somebody have them, somebody not. Every prime behave in a different way. I hope they can fix this annoying problem (which, incidentally, i never had before .28).
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doing a factory reset willl lose root right?
my Prime really needs a reset and fresh start everything is mess
brainimpact said:
doing a factory reset willl lose root right?
my Prime really needs a reset and fresh start everything is mess
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No, you won't lose root, but maybe you'll only have to reinstall superuser app.
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pandaball said:
That's because factory reset formats /data and /cache but does not touch /system. Easy way to fix that is just delete busybox, su and superuser.apk before factory resetting. Much faster than the cleanup section of your guide imo.
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You are probably right. I did this guide for non rooted user as well and today I don't see any other solution to get rid of all the old data than by deleting every single one. Suggestions to do a factory reset but not pointing out to prepare this factory reset and finalising it by the pinhole reset seem to be in use for a long time and show different results.
So I took another approach which has been very reliable for me. Thanks for your input
MXR2 said:
anyone with screen flicker/artifacts/audio skipping issue tried step by step of this guide, if yes, are those problems gone?
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MXR2 said:
Yeah, because I've personally did a manual reinstallation of .28, full wipe and system wipe and it changed nothing.
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Maybe you try my description step by step and don't forget, very often you have to do a reboot after installing a new app.
MiscBec said:
I was reading in another thread the suggestion to wipe the data or factory reset, and then install the latest firmware version from the Asus site (which you would have preloaded on an external (? I've also read internal...) sd card). Would that take care of the system files in a more efficient way than going through and deleting each of them individually? Also, if the factory reset does wipe everything but system files, is there a need to manually remove non-system apps? Can I even get at the system files if I'm not rooted in order to remove them?
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I'd also love to know this- it's my most frustrating problem, and if doing the reset isn't going to help than I might put it off (I'm scared to make something else break on me that would be worse!).
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My guide starts after you have done the update. Now the trouble starts because even updated some apps still use old values. If you use the .zip-file to update you still should clean up everything after the installation and start with the procedure described from step 2 and not skip anything until you have done the pinhole-reset and two more boots. Now you are fine to start.
nyijedi said:
Exactly. This is a placebo effect. . If that really made a difference, don't you think Asus would have said something by now?
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As I stated earlier: I don't suggest to fix any coding problems. My guide just gives you a clean start. You don't sound like you have tried, haven't you?
jason1993 said:
I tried the procedure suggested by the OP (i never wiped after the update, only cold booted a few times yesterday because of the prime that seemed to be alive - see related thread), and now, after an all-day use (all my apps and games reinstalled) i can say that it's more smooth, wifi is a little better and my prime does not move by itself like it's alive ahah. But immediately after finishing the procedure i had persistent screen artifacts on the very left (never had them), but a cold boot solved. And, after that, 2 or 3 very little artifacts during the day, just like before doing this procedure. Never had ANR before and after this procedure.
So i think that there's nothing we can do about screen artifacts: somebody have them, somebody not. Every prime behave in a different way. I hope they can fix this annoying problem (which, incidentally, i never had before .28).
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I am glad it helped you. Just to get it straight: You got the screenflicker before you finished my procedure! After the reboot it was gone and this is exactly why I suggest to do two more bootups after the 30 seconds pinhole-reset. Thanks for your feedback.
brainimpact said:
doing a factory reset willl lose root right?
my Prime really needs a reset and fresh start everything is mess
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jason1993 said:
No, you won't lose root, but maybe you'll only have to reinstall superuser app.
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[NOT CORRECT]Sorry to correct you but my root is gone, installing superusere won't help.
But you can regain root by using sparkym3 root tool mentioned in the ops.[/NOT CORRECT]
Edit: jason1993 is right, I have changed the op
131313 said:
I am glad it helped you. Just to get it straight: You got the screenflicker before you finished my procedure! After the reboot it was gone and this is exactly why I suggest to do two more bootups after the 30 seconds pinhole-reset. Thanks for your feedback.
Sorry to correct you but my root is gone, installing superusere won't help.
But you can regain root by using sparkym3 root tool mentioned in the ops.
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You are right about the screenflicker, but i don't agree about root permissions. I didn't lose them after your procedure, i only had to reinstall superuser app to manage them, but i had them. I'm sure because the first thing after finishing the procedure has been reinstalling superuser app and then ezoverclock.
Anyway, after this procedure and the tweaks of the ATP Tweak app, screenflickering is almost fine.
can anyone else who tried this method play a video, be it youtube or any video files and see if there is any random loss of audio during playback for abt 1-2 sec
because i keep having this issue, regardless of the number of times ive rebooted my device
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You are right about the screenflicker, but i don't agree about root permissions. I didn't lose them after your procedure, i only had to reinstall superuser app to manage them, but i had them. I'm sure because the first thing after finishing the procedure has been reinstalling superuser app and then ezoverclock.
Anyway, after this procedure and the tweaks of the ATP Tweak app, screenflickering is almost fine.
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Oooops, I just found out: You are right, we don't loose root after the "FactoryReset". I apologize to you, great you insisted.
Will change it in the original post.
MXR2 said:
can anyone else who tried this method play a video, be it youtube or any video files and see if there is any random loss of audio during playback for abt 1-2 sec
because i keep having this issue, regardless of the number of times ive rebooted my device
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Why don't you just try it yourself instead of keep asking? Your device will be cleaned an probably (hopefully) fixed. I don't have this audio loss problem at all.
because I've done many steps already to set my prime to default, as vanilla as stock as possible and the problems were never gone. i just dont wanna go thru another reset
Has anybody tried using browser2ram after the update? I managed to update and restore root and i'm going to reinstall it. I was just curious whether anyone else has tried and can confirm that it still works and improves the stock browser's performance.
Seems to babe working just fine.
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After testing it does appear that browsing is still much snappier with browser2ram installed. Which is a shame really as it means that they really didn't address the io speed although jelly bean has improved things.
qskile said:
After testing it does appear that browsing is still much snappier with browser2ram installed. Which is a shame really as it means that they really didn't address the io speed although jelly bean has improved things.
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what browser have you tested this theory with?
Stock browser running better and smoother here - even than ICS with browser2ram. But that's after a factory reset - I had glitches before I did that.
Not sure how you guys have managed to restore root in order to install the app again. Do share! Nobody else seems to have managed more than "partial root" in other words only works with apps already given root permissions before update. Are you definitely seeing browser2ram being granted permissions after a reboot?
Stock browser. As far as I know the mod was only designed to work with stock.
Restorer said:
Stock browser running better and smoother here - even than ICS with browser2ram. But that's after a factory reset - I had glitches before I did that.
Not sure how you guys have managed to restore root in order to install the app again. Do share! Nobody else seems to have managed more than "partial root" in other words only works with apps already given root permissions before update. Are you definitely seeing browser2ram being granted permissions after a reboot?
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I restored full root using the following method in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32122432
I get the browser2ram being granted permissions message after I installed it and rebooted. From what I've read it varies a lot as to whether full root can be restored. It must be dependent on a combination of your current setup and what you did to restore. I guess I was just lucky.
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I restored full root using the following method in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32122432
I get the browser2ram being granted permissions message after I installed it and rebooted. From what I've read it varies a lot as to whether full root can be restored. It must be dependent on a combination of your current setup and what you did to restore. I guess I was just lucky.
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Good to hear some have managed it. I know many (including me) reported Rootkeeper had restored root after update only to find it hadn't fully worked even though apps like Titanium Backup and Root Explorer seemed ok. Anyway my stock browser zips along nicely now and I'm sure it won't be too long before the devs figure out a way to root again .
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Stock browser. As far as I know the mod was only designed to work with stock.
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like somebody else said above. If you are seeing lag with your stock browser running this new rom you should do a factory reset.
whycali said:
like somebody else said above. If you are seeing lag with your stock browser running this new rom you should do a factory reset.
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Yes, it made a big difference for me and I'm sure it would for everyone. Even after a few months we accumulate a mountain of dross on that data partition that has the potential to seriously mess with any new software base. I know companies are always reluctant to issue software updates that would force users to back up or lose stuff but it really would save a lot of problems if they just warned people and did a full wipe.
HTC even refused in the end to issue the ICS update for the Desire HD because it would have entailed wiping the data partition to run the upgrade .
If I'm posting in the wrong section please move.
I am trying to get rid of the ota update notification on my nexus 10. It wants me to update to but I am rooted and do not want to lose my root. I have searched and searched and searched trying to find the answer to this but have not been able to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
jonmike13 said:
If I'm posting in the wrong section please move.
I am trying to get rid of the ota update notification on my nexus 10. It wants me to update to but I am rooted and do not want to lose my root. I have searched and searched and searched trying to find the answer to this but have not been able to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Use OTA rootkeeper and then just update? If it's 4.3 you'll have to update to the new root service method, end of the day, it's a nexus, stop worrying about root because there isn't a nexus yet that isn't rootable on any software version.
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alias_neo said:
Use OTA rootkeeper and then just update? If it's 4.3 you'll have to update to the new root service method, end of the day, it's a nexus, stop worrying about root because there isn't a nexus yet that isn't rootable on any software version.
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Well I read that rootkeeper does not currently work with 4.3. I am fine with either getting rid of the notification or updating and keeping root but either way I have to keep root one way or another because I use root permissions on a daily basis to write to my external hard drive. If rootkeeper works with 4.3 then I would be happy to update and use that to stay rooted. As far as "updating root service method", what does this mean and what needs to be done to perform this? Thanks for your reply buddy!
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Well I read that rootkeeper does not currently work with 4.3. I am fine with either getting rid of the notification or updating and keeping root but either way I have to keep root one way or another because I use root permissions on a daily basis to write to my external hard drive. If rootkeeper works with 4.3 then I would be happy to update and use that to stay rooted. As far as "updating root service method", what does this mean and what needs to be done to perform this? Thanks for your reply buddy!
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No problem, basically,4.3 requires a service to run that will mediate superuser requests. It is neither here nor there to you as a user, do a quick search around for 4.3 root by Chainfire, it installs pretty much the same as any other root, but it uniquely addresses issues in 4.3 (new security).
I'd link you but I'm on my phone so easier to search on tablet or desktop.
It's really easy and I did it myself on my own nexus 10 soon as 4.3 came out.
FYI, complications such as those in 4.3 aside, it's always possible to root a device where flashing a custom built kernel is possible. In other words, unless the OS breaks the standard su/native/dalvik communication (kinda like 4.3 does) it will always, always, be possible to root a nexus device.
4.3 just makes it slightly more complicated because it disallows setuid (which allows recounting system read/write) from dalvik (android) apps. Fortunately, I assume, the workaround takes care of it by having a native "service" (that does have permission) take care of that part for us (the latter part is an educated guess).
Anyway, my longwinded point was that you should never deny yourself an android update an a nexus device, because anything is possible
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alias_neo said:
No problem, basically,4.3 requires a service to run that will mediate superuser requests. It is neither here nor there to you as a user, do a quick search around for 4.3 root by Chainfire, it installs pretty much the same as any other root, but it uniquely addresses issues in 4.3 (new security).
I'd link you but I'm on my phone so easier to search on tablet or desktop.
It's really easy and I did it myself on my own nexus 10 soon as 4.3 came out.
FYI, complications such as those in 4.3 aside, it's always possible to root a device where flashing a custom built kernel is possible. In other words, unless the OS breaks the standard su/native/dalvik communication (kinda like 4.3 does) it will always, always, be possible to root a nexus device.
4.3 just makes it slightly more complicated because it disallows setuid (which allows recounting system read/write) from dalvik (android) apps. Fortunately, I assume, the workaround takes care of it by having a native "service" (that does have permission) take care of that part for us (the latter part is an educated guess).
Anyway, my longwinded point was that you should never deny yourself an android update an a nexus device, because anything is possible
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Thank you for the explanation. I am going to do some research when I get home and decide what I am going to do. I will post if I have any further questions, as I am sure I will lol. Thanks again!
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Well I read that rootkeeper does not currently work with 4.3. I am fine with either getting rid of the notification or updating and keeping root but either way I have to keep root one way or another because I use root permissions on a daily basis to write to my external hard drive. If rootkeeper works with 4.3 then I would be happy to update and use that to stay rooted. As far as "updating root service method", what does this mean and what needs to be done to perform this? Thanks for your reply buddy!
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Just thought that I would mention:
4.3 brought OTG drivers to the Nexus 10. NATIVELY. No more Root needed, IIRC.
CWalkop said:
Just thought that I would mention:
4.3 brought OTG drivers to the Nexus 10. NATIVELY. No more Root needed, IIRC.
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Does this include write permissions? I download a lot of media on my N10 and then transfer it to my hard drive for safe keeping.