Can someone tell me where I can read about the specs of Galaxy S3 and the specs about what everything is?
I mean we have "Arm Cortex A9", which is the CPU right? But the instruction set is "ARMv7" as I understand it, like to know more about that.
Then there's "Tegra 3", which I now understand is not in the S3 but rather "Exynos 4412". And that is the GPU?
And then there's something called ARMv7 NEON.
Well, those are the things I want to learn about. And I think it's better to read some spread sheet or whatever instead of getting short, sporadic answers here.
But I have Googled for a long time now and most pages is just copies from the same source and not very specific.
In conclusion, if you can point me to a site or file where I can read about all this, I will let you have my wife for 2 nights!
Since I am not married you will have to settle for myself in a wig portraying your dream woman! Sound good? Naaah.. I know
But you will have my sincere gratitude!
try wiki
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Exynos
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Well, i can say that the exynos 4412 is the chip set that's the S3 uses. So basically that is the quad core goodness. Tegra 3 is a dofferent chip set, made by a different manufacture (ndiva[ sorry i spelt that wrong]). Each chipset handles tasks differently. Tegra 3 i belive is suppose to be great at 3D gaming if i recall properly, however Tegra 3, in my opinion (i have a Tegra 3 device) is crap. Exynos 4412 and the exynos 4453(?) That is going to be released by Samsung are much better. However probably the best chipset out there is most likely the snapdragon S4. I have only seen this in dual core phones, but once this chipset hits quadcore it will be unstoppable. Armv7 is the artitechure of... something. Sorry I do not know too much about ARM besides ARM9 is better than 7 and 11 is better than 9 and so on. ARM is kinda the same thing as Intel on a windows computer, but ARM has MUCCHH more battery life. So basically if u ran Windows on your android phone it would lag a lot, not because the phone doesn't have the power, but because the OS is not designed for the way the hardware is set up. But if u run Linux( which is designed for ARM on your android developed device it runs smoothly (can say this is true, I've tried it ) that noted, Linux can run on a Intel windows computer smoothly. Not sure why. I've basicily spewed as much knowledge as I have at you here, but i also want to let u know that you will eventually learn what all these chip sets are and what they do, etc with time. (I am presuming you are relatively new with Android, i apologize if i am mistaken)
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Try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.proxectos.phonespecs
You can find your specs with this, then search google what you wish to know
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Teardown/9391/1
This is a link for a teardown of the S3, which u may find helpful if u want to do research on separate parts of the s3. Also a great guide to learn how to disassemble the phone. Have a good day sir!
Please note that the information above may not be 100% correct, as I am only human and can easily make mistakes
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nodstuff said:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Exynos
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Well, i can say that the exynos 4412 is the chip set that's the S3 uses. So basically that is the quad core goodness. Tegra 3 is a dofferent chip set, made by a different manufacture (ndiva[ sorry i spelt that wrong]). Each chipset handles tasks differently. Tegra 3 i belive is suppose to be great at 3D gaming if i recall properly, however Tegra 3, in my opinion (i have a Tegra 3 device) is crap. Exynos 4412 and the exynos 4453(?) That is going to be released by Samsung are much better. However probably the best chipset out there is most likely the snapdragon S4. I have only seen this in dual core phones, but once this chipset hits quadcore it will be unstoppable. Armv7 is the artitechure of... something. Sorry I do not know too much about ARM besides ARM9 is better than 7 and 11 is better than 9 and so on. ARM is kinda the same thing as Intel on a windows computer, but ARM has MUCCHH more battery life. So basically if u ran Windows on your android phone it would lag a lot, not because the phone doesn't have the power, but because the OS is not designed for the way the hardware is set up. But if u run Linux( which is designed for ARM on your android developed device it runs smoothly (can say this is true, I've tried it ) that noted, Linux can run on a Intel windows computer smoothly. Not sure why. I've basicily spewed as much knowledge as I have at you here, but i also want to let u know that you will eventually learn what all these chip sets are and what they do, etc with time. (I am presuming you are relatively new with Android, i apologize if i am mistaken)
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Thanks all!
There was a lot of good info there nodstuff and I probably can piece it together now with a little patience.
But one thing that is not mentioned is NEON. Where does that fit in?
OK, quad s4 is not "unstoppable" just wait for the 5 series exynos processors which will be true A-15 architecture.
They will kerb stomp the **** out of the s4.
Also Armv7 is not the same as A-9, v7 is the instruction set, there is also an A-7 and it is the architecture. (A-9, A-7, A-15, etc.)
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Try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.proxectos.phonespecs
You can find your specs with this, then search google what you wish to know
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WoodenAnts said:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Teardown/9391/1
This is a link for a teardown of the S3, which u may find helpful if u want to do research on separate parts of the s3. Also a great guide to learn how to disassemble the phone. Have a good day sir!
Please note that the information above may not be 100% correct, as I am only human and can easily make mistakes
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Thanks jojoost, I had just found Antutu before your post but I will try them both.
WoodenAnts: that was the nail in the coffin. Thanks a LOT! Now I can understand it, and also get the info on "NEON".
WoodenAnts said:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Teardown/9391/1
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BTW, what color would you like the wig to be? :angel:
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Do you think the official netflix app will work on vibrant? Its been reported it will be chip dependant or something like that.
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Only working on snapdragon devices right now.
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What's snapdragon?
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What's snapdragon?
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thats the processor
snapdragon ex = nexux one
hummingbird = Galaxy phones
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thats the processor
processor ex = nexux one
hummingbird = Galaxy phones
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Well, almost, galaxy s = a8 cortex, hummingbird is the chip set.
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They should be able to get one for the Galaxy, heck the Ipad is A9 right, so shouldnt be too hard.
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They should be able to get one for the Galaxy, heck the Ipad is A9 right, so shouldnt be too hard.
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Not without some major hackage, it will only work with some drm instructions built into next gen cpu's.
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Im not a tech doctor so please bare with me. What's the difference in processors I mean ****ty phones like the hd7 has netflix. Can someone clear up the smoke?
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Im not a tech doctor so please bare with me. What's the difference in processors I mean ****ty phones like the hd7 has netflix. Can someone clear up the smoke?
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Netflix App
Its not about performance because the hummingbird processor is superior to the snapdragon, i guess its the next gen qualcomm snapdragon processors. That is the one bad thing about andriod, several processors and andriod versions so longer to make apps compared to ios.
Why are they only developing one for snapdragon processors.... thats BS.... Netflix is a big company and they can afford to make their app available for most if not all devices. I mean it will only work to increase their customer base.
Never really got whey Netflix has been so slow (and continues to be so slow) in developing an android app. Same goes for Hulu.
From what I understand is that netflix will be releasing an app on certain android phones, not all, mainly because they don't want people to hack and find a way to bypass the monthly membership and stream videos for free since android is open source. Not sure how correct that is but that's what I read on an article on android central a while back.
From a purely technical point of view any phone with an ARM Cortex A8 processor should be capable of running Netflix just fine provided it has an adequate data connection (this includes Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors for the Nexus One, EVO, DInc, etc... ; TI's OMAP processors for the Droid X and Droid 2; and Samsung's Hummingbird processors for the Galaxy S and related phones). The problem that is holding them back is incorporating DRM into the devices to suit Netflix's business model. So far, only Qualcomm has struck a deal with Netflix, so right now only phones that use Qualcomm's next generation chipset will be able to use Netflix. This has nothing to do with the performance capabilities of the hardware itself and is nothing more than a business strategy.
This won't be of interest to most of you, but for anyone running PlayOn, they just released an Android app. You can find it here.
The downside for most, is there is a trial for Playon, but after that you have to pay for the PC application. It runs on your home PC and let's you stream Hulu, Netflix, YouTube, etc to Xbox, PS3 (now Android) and others. It's a niche software, but in my case, I use it. You can port forward your router and connect from the outside, but I haven't tried that yet and don't know if I will.
The app itself is in its first release, so it has some downsides that I have seen. It's slow as molasses. It can't find some links sometimes, but when it works and connects, it seems to work well. I consider it to be a beta build. Long story short, if you don't have PlayOn, look if you want, but don't get your hopes up. If you do use PlayOn, try the app, hopefully it will get better.
Note: Allshare will connect and browse PlayOn, but the streams come back in an "unsupported format".
I have used playon outside the home it works fairly well except if you want to FF or rewind.
The Nexus S is the only phone there that does not have the snapdragon, has the humming bird right? So... I am not seeing any hardware difference that would make an effect, if it could play on the Nexus S, should work on Galaxy S devices.
SethHikari said:
The Nexus S is the only phone there that does not have the snapdragon, has the humming bird right? So... I am not seeing any hardware difference that would make an effect, if it could play on the Nexus S, should work on Galaxy S devices.
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I can practically guarantee you that the reason why this works on the Nexus S but not the Galaxy S has nothing to do with hardware compatibility and everything to do with licensing. Whatever is holding back the Netflix app from working on our phones, it's a legal issue and not a technical issue.
It's definitely not a Snapdragon vs. Hummingbird issue because it works on the Nexus S.
Missing Lib Files?...you know the new gtalk has a lib file that goes with it or it doesnt work properly......just a thought.
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Only working on snapdragon devices right now.
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That's not true. It works on Nexus S which has a hummingbird
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I have searched everywhere to find exactly what Qualcomm processor is actually inside the flyer because I am confused for three good reasons...
1, even in the official HTC Flyer spec it just states 1.5Ghz processor (no chip number)
2, most reviews I've seen are just copying what they have seen in other reviews stating a 'single-core' Qualcomm Snapdragon processor but this then leads me to item 3.....
3, Qualcomm only make single-core Snapdragon processors to a max speed of 1.4Ghz, the only 1.5Ghz units are the MSM8260 and the MSM8660 which are both dual-core asynchronous CPU's which are more power efficient than a synchronous Tegra2 that cannot shut down the second core when not used.
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Ref: http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
Any one explain this?
ARM v7 rev.2 (v7l)
HTC flyer has an overclocked 8255 at 1.5 GHZ. which is a second generation snapdragon with adreno 205 CPU. It is found in the HTc Desire HD aka HTC inspire, tmobile g2, and some more.
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While I welcome your posts guys, please follow my example and post an actual, FACTUAL reference to your comments to show where your information came from, HTC preferable as they sell the darn things, not some dudes blog.
Dont want UK newspaper type gossip stuff.
Anyone got any photos of the actual chip in the Flyer?
It would not suprise me if the print had been physically removed....
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Even found this, a full open of the Flyer...
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
But still no sign of a CPU, only one unknown chip hidden by screening.
Strange....
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Even found this, a full open of the Flyer...
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
But still no sign of a CPU, only one unknown chip hidden by screening.
Strange....
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Interesting... Well the breakdown is there for you to follow. Report back when you figure out what's under the metal shielding. . Maybe its the Samsung chip?
The article criicizes the tablet for a smartphone design... Which I disagree with. My thoughts are the device doesn't have the 10" space to NOT stack components on top of each other. And why reinvent the wheel? When youhave successful phones, why not bank on your expertise?
Anyway back to the subject, I'm pretty happy with the device. Not too concerned about what's under the covers, because quite frankly it performs well with the overclocked snapdragon... The device's pen integration and more "openess" of Android is what retired my iPad.
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While I welcome your posts guys, please follow my example and post an actual, FACTUAL reference to your comments to show where your information came from, HTC preferable as they sell the darn things, not some dudes blog.
Dont want UK newspaper type gossip stuff.
Anyone got any photos of the actual chip in the Flyer?
It would not suprise me if the print had been physically removed....
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Why your welcome Mr. Rude. Mine came from info off my tab itself. If you want more open yours up and find out for yourself.
T120ted said:
Why your welcome Mr. Rude. Mine came from info off my tab itself. If you want more open yours up and find out for yourself.
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Never seen a Snapdragon processor that quotes an ARM architecture type on its surface!
And childish name calling is not in the spirit of this forum....
All I'm trying to determine here is whether HTC may be using one core of a dual-core chip that may improve Honeycomb.
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Never seen a Snapdragon processor that quotes an ARM architecture type on its surface!
And childish name calling is not in the spirit of this forum....
All I'm trying to determine here is whether HTC may be using one core of a dual-core chip that may improve Honeycomb.
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Preety sure it is single core. If it was dual core they would certainly advertise it as such as a selling point.
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Farsquidge said:
Never seen a Snapdragon processor that quotes an ARM architecture type on its surface!
And childish name calling is not in the spirit of this forum....
All I'm trying to determine here is whether HTC may be using one core of a dual-core chip that may improve Honeycomb.
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It makes no sense for HTC to disable one core of a dual core chip.
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It makes no sense for HTC to disable one core of a dual core chip.
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Unless for some reason they could not get Google certification on Gingerbread unless they did!
This is pure speculation but, what if HTC designed the Flyer to originally use an MSM8260 or 8660 as the Puccini is going to use with Honeycomb, found out that they could not get Sense integrated into Honeycomb in time for distribution, THEN found out that Google would not certify it for Gingerbread unless it was a single-core system?
It just seems strange that they will have (if and when we get HC) two tablets out within a year, both with HC, one 7" one 10" but with different processors.
If if if... for someone who wants hard facts your head sure is in the clouds.
I'd prefer to have a dual core, but my flyer is flying fast enough for me to be happy.
So is it a single or dual???? I'm confused...LOL...
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If if if... for someone who wants hard facts your head sure is in the clouds.
I'd prefer to have a dual core, but my flyer is flying fast enough for me to be happy.
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So long as everyone identifies fact and speculation, there is no problem is there?
Yes, I would prefer a dual-core myself if we have an update to HC coming.
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So is it a single or dual???? I'm confused...LOL...
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Yep, me too!! That's the whole point of this thread.
The chip was made by Qualcomm. I'm not trying to rain on your parade or be rude. Thinking it is a Sammy chip is a little out there. At the time this was developed Sammy was to busy laying in bed with Apple making chips for their eyepads. If it were a dual core chip let's just say for the fun of it, this would be some hell of a dual core to be clocked at 1.5ghz before the second core gets activated. Not even gonna happen. There's not enough of any kind of heatsink inside this thing to keep that kinda heat down on a regular basis. Just my two cents but heh, everyone has to have some kinda pipe dream. This single core blows the doors off all the duals out there. I'm happy as it is.
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This is pure speculation but, what if HTC designed the Flyer to originally use an MSM8260 or 8660 as the Puccini is going to use with Honeycomb, found out that they could not get Sense integrated into Honeycomb in time for distribution, THEN found out that Google would not certify it for Gingerbread unless it was a single-core system?
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Why wouldn't google certify it? There are plenty of dual core phones with gingerbread..
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joshnichols189 said:
Why wouldn't google certify it? There are plenty of dual core phones with gingerbread..
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Not sure myself but I know it's not a phone and it could be (maybe HTC didn't want to reduce their phone sales, to the chagrin of most of us) so that may change things.... It was only speculation.
Although Archos had the same certification problem with their Gen8 units because they left out phone, GPS and rear camera.
Honeycomb however is specifically targeted at tablets, so Google will certify without phone function leading me to think the Flyer was really designed for that in mind but they never got it skinned in time for release.
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The chip was made by Qualcomm. I'm not trying to rain on your parade or be rude. Thinking it is a Sammy chip is a little out there. At the time this was developed Sammy was to busy laying in bed with Apple making chips for their eyepads. If it were a dual core chip let's just say for the fun of it, this would be some hell of a dual core to be clocked at 1.5ghz before the second core gets activated. Not even gonna happen. There's not enough of any kind of heatsink inside this thing to keep that kinda heat down on a regular basis. Just my two cents but heh, everyone has to have some kinda pipe dream. This single core blows the doors off all the duals out there. I'm happy as it is.
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You are perhaps thinking of standard PC type CPU's not mobile ones.
The new low-power 45nM dual-core Snapdragons ARE asynchronous ( each core has independent clock and voltage supplies) , are 1.5GHZ, and don't need large heatsinks....
Ref: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief
And yes, I'm also happy with the Flyer as it is, it's overall performance and UI is better than anything else I've tried.
But, as you say, it may be a pipe dream. But (here we go again, sorry) what would owners do at this moment if HTC had announced a dual-core Flyer only using one core? They wouldn't be very happy would they...
And what will people say when suddenly we get Honeycomb with dual-core? They wouldn't complain then...
Yep, I am probably dreaming but wouldn't it be nice if they pull that rabbit out of the hat.
According to Qualcomm it is an MSM8x55. You can find more info here at the same link you posted in the OP:
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
Scroll down about halfway where it talks about High Performance Smartphones and Tablets and it mentions the Flyer near the bottom of the section.
So, was browsing the Internet, when I found this..
Canonical has started releasing its own, ARM optimised Ubuntu versions for Android devices...
It runs alongside Android and has access to almost all its apps like Phone, Contacts, User apps etc..
It seems to be basically meant for Dual-Cores and when combined with a docking station, you have a full-fledged Ubuntu running on a Dual-Core chipset which you can view in full screen size on your TV Screen n stuff..
Read more here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/21/2812424/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on
PS: Don't you, in your wildest dream, think of running it on our lil screens with a Single core, 600mhz processor...
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Wow, exciting! Too bad there's nothing concrete for users to try right now (unless I missed something).
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
Not At All MEANT for us....
If you read the full articles, it makes quite a lot of sense for a person who moves around a lot. Also the processing power in high-end phones should be enough for the OS to offer a decent experience.
One more reason to hold on to our beloved P500 for one more year and save the upgrade money for a multi-core phone . At least this way, when you upgrade you will be able to really feel the difference.
Thank you!
Greets!
Why not work on p500? Win7 runs on on 1GHz single core... 600MHz for an optimized version of ubuntu should work...
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I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
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I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
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There is no mobile device that can run 2 OSs in the same boot... you need a lot of ram and tons of cpu... my 2.8GHz can't handle the android emulator...
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But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
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Aha... yep... n dats why i said not to dream about running it on our phones...
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But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
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Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
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Haha... yep... but there can be some fanboys... you gotta consider em all...
Note will do it best, you wont even need a docking station or whatever stuff required to connect it to a larger display...
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Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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I have read that ubuntu reguires atleast a 4.0 inch screen which makes it difficult on optimus one !
THIS IS OFF TOPIC, IGNORE IF U WISH.. JUST WRITING MY MIND..
sweetnsour said:
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
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ahahha...
I honestly bought my phone to play ANGRY BIRDS..!!
thats all..
and today in my college, looking at my phone and all the4 modifications i have made in the months, friends say that i should sell my phone to LG at around 1lac ($2000) and become the brand ambassador for LG O1..
So here i'd like to thank ppl i know who helped me get this praise..
Thanks to
> mik (my 1st custom ROM, Official CM support)
> popdog (sweetest ROM ever)
> luporiph & Arjen (ICS, woah!!)
> Franco & fserve (all be damned if not for them)
> sweetnsour, vlt96 n many others for time to time helps
> capslock for this Reverse Tether
> noobs (make me feel "Like A Boss" )
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Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Its still in alpha.. and few months later we are gonna see quad cores... so give it sometime.. remember the 1st few alphas of cm9 by lupohirp?? Remember the lags/flickers etc??
Where are they now?? Gone ryt??
Similarly, give ubuntu some time, it will run better...
N dont forget, that video uses a phone running 1ghz dual core thats not OC'd...
So give it sometime, it will be up and running just the way it does on PC...
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The future is already here
There are already lightweight linux distros for embedded systems.
ArchLinuxARM for example runs on devices not much more powerful than our P500s
Pogoplug - 800Mhz ARMv5te 128 MB RAM & NAND
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
You wouldn't run X on them. That's just eye candy.
But add a external USB hard drive, they become perfect
low power servers for media streaming, automated BT,
automated data backups, small webservers.
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/support/guides/applications
Anyhoots, once a smartphone is EOL, it might be a good
project to repurpose them for the above tasks.
Oh yah, take a look at the $25 - $35 Raspberry Pi at wikipedia
I hope this is the right place to put this...
I got to thinking recently. I love my Sony Tablet to death and use it daily, but I now have my Vita and once more software an support is up and running for it, I think I can see it cutting into my tablet-love.
Now from what I undersand the guts of a Vita (cpu/gpu) don't really work too well in a cell phone, but what about in the next Sony tablet? Sure it likely won't operate on the Vita OS and will use Android, but how desirable would this be in your opinions? How would its performance compare to the other tablets on the market?
Is there really any reason why the Vitas guts wouldn't work in an Android tablet? Personally I'd like to see a Sony tablet with the Vita OS, but unfortunately the software support isn't there yet and likely won't be for 6 months to a year.
So... thoughts?
I'm wondering if Sony will release another tablet.
Sales haven't been great and there's a lot of competition out there. If only they'd market it a bit and plug the plus points & differences over the ipad and other Android tablets, then I'm sure it would pinch more market share.
I'd also like to see better PS3 integration. Using it as a controller like the next gen wii.I'm sure the hardware is up to the job.
Sony will release another Tab, actually this tab is named one of the best tabs out there. But to get a premium and unique tab you have to pay right?
next tab is named S2 and will have quad core
That's good to hear. Must have taken a while to come up with the name.
yohandesilva1 said:
Sony will release another Tab, actually this tab is named one of the best tabs out there. But to get a premium and unique tab you have to pay right?
next tab is named S2 and will have quad core
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Yeah, it makes sense that it'll be quad core, but I'm wondering if it'd make more sense for them to port Vita the CPU/GPU into it, or go for the newer A15 quad cores that'll be coming out eventually. Anyone know enough about the Vita internals to know if they have any advantages over these newer chipsets?
vivftp said:
Yeah, it makes sense that it'll be quad core, but I'm wondering if it'd make more sense for them to port Vita the CPU/GPU into it, or go for the newer A15 quad cores that'll be coming out eventually. Anyone know enough about the Vita internals to know if they have any advantages over these newer chipsets?
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Just like PC and consoles, they are two totally different things
Vitas chipset runs in closed environment just like your PS3 or 360, which will always be optimise performance
So the same or slightly more powerful chip set will never match it because of this
But on paper, yeah I suppose, but if ya mean will A15 in a phone or a tab be able to run Uncharted the answer is no.
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http://www.phonedog.com/2012/06/11/...really-detrimental-to-the-android-experience/
merp link isnt working for me so a second link
http://www.pcworld.com/article/257307/dual_core_processors_wasted_on_android_intel_claims.html
according to intels general manager dual cores are not doing us any good. That obviously means quadcores are going to do even less for us.
Just Intel propaganda as they are trying to get into the mobile processor market.
Hmm perhaps but at the same time makes sense. These phones should fly but I also know it has to do with the VM
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ckoadiyn said:
Hmm perhaps but at the same time makes sense. These phones should fly but I also know it has to do with the VM
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The thing we have to realize here is that Android was designed to cater to different hardware configurations vs let's say Apple's direction for mobile, they have control of the hardware so they can customize drivers with their software.It also depends how the application uses the hardware too. Dual-core "I believe" is about right, because these apps are not really going to utilize it.
Intel needs to "put their money where their mouth is." All they need to do is make a single core soc that competes with the s4 and tegra 3 AND within a reasonable budget for me to believe and trust them. Till then its just smack talk.
guy has a point there, and a valid one...I remember when we got the first dual core phone and it wasn't nearly optimized to take full use of it...So in the end it makes sense overall...Esp when you look at it from apps and everything else that doesn't take full advantage of everything available...least thats my thinking on it...
BUT I highly doubt Intel is scared and trying to pull a marketing scheme as some of the things they announced at CES for the future of mobile SoC line for them was amazing...down the the tiny nm processing to the features pushing for...
Also its Intel....their stuff wont be bad in the end of things, once they get solid footing here...
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guy has a point there, and a valid one...I remember when we got the first dual core phone and it wasn't nearly optimized to take full use of it...So in the end it makes sense overall...Esp when you look at it from apps and everything else that doesn't take full advantage of everything available...least thats my thinking on it...
BUT I highly doubt Intel is scared and trying to pull a marketing scheme as some of the things they announced at CES for the future of mobile SoC line for them was amazing...down the the tiny nm processing to the features pushing for...
Also its Intel....their stuff wont be bad in the end of things, once they get solid footing here...
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Thank you first logical post lol obviously its a marketing scheme not like they don't almost have a monopoly anyways. Lol and I think dual cores this gen anyways is somewhat better then the s3 and I'm sure they are better then the exynos.
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Not the right person to believe. It's like believing Steve jobs when he said people don't want phones larger than 3.5" screen.
Once their stuff is released and a third party with no ties, including advertising, can test it then i will believe.
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Thank you first logical post lol obviously its a marketing scheme not like they don't almost have a monopoly anyways. Lol and I think dual cores this gen anyways is somewhat better then the s3 and I'm sure they are better then the exynos.
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Actually, Intel has maybe a 5% market share in chips. So they don't have a monopoly lol. There's this one company with a super high market share, I forgot the name.
But this is interesting. Reminds of the "S4 is faster because Android isn't made for quad cores!" argument.
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I'd bet that most lower-end dual-core Androids really aren't optimized for it. There are some pretty cheap handsets out there, and the experience with them sucks.
On the other hand, though, the manufacturers who make quality phones (HTC) know what they're doing.
It sounds just like the argument iPhans used to make two years ago - they'd talk about how Android was not a good OS because the phones they tried were laggy, slow, and stuttered... ignoring entirely the fact that they were playing with the cheap Android phones. Put a resource-intensive OS in cheap hardware and the experience will suck.
And to an earlier point, Intel is trying to get into the mobile space... and their mobile processors are single core. It's in their best interest to make people leery of their dual-core competition.
I agree with the article 100%, mostly. For now, all enabling dual cores does is inflate useless benchmarks and kill the battery.
The bad part of the article is trying to compare today's processor arch with old stuff.
My personal opinion... Taylor Martin is a moron. Most of his articles on Phonedog are useless!
Medfield is a single core. Maybe they are just trying to defend their product.
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Actually, Intel has maybe a 5% market share in chips. So they don't have a monopoly lol. There's this one company with a super high market share, I forgot the name.
But this is interesting. Reminds of the "S4 is faster because Android isn't made for quad cores!" argument.
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Even in the pc world? That's what I was referring to I understand mobile wise they don't have much or any... Hence the they don't need a scheme
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This article is about 99.99% right. There is some obvious bias in it, but it holds a lot of truth.
The fact is that Android wasn't built to be "silky smooth". Take a look at WP7 for example, those phones run as smooth as any phone can run and they are all single core processors, yesteryear android specs. The architecture of the OS is 100x more important than processing power and it's sad to say that Google absolutely did not focus on this when they started creating Android. Keep in mine that they started before Apple or Windows in building Android, so they probably just didn't have the foresight.
With that being said, I am as big of an Android fan as any of you and I don't plan on changing any time soon but the fact remains that our operating system will most likely never be as smooth as WP or ios. We win by a milestone though when it comes to functionality.