Im very new to android and was very surprised that the GS 3 was giving me lower than expected framerates when playing NOVA 3. I wrongly expected that the phone would be able to run all games at 60fps. bad NOVA 3 seems to run at between 40fps - 60fps...... very rarely staying at a constant 60fps. or is it just my phone?? i have noticed the same with riptide too. most of the time it is very smooth but when all of the jets are on the screen at the same time the framerate drops... so im really hoping that jelly bean will help to fix this or not???
Why dont you get an iphone if you are not satisfied with the best PHONE
JellyBean is not a MIRACLE that it will make fastest phone more faasstest!
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To answer your question in simple terms, No Jelly Bean will not increase the performance of gaming on the S3.
Project Butter enables VSYNC for window transitions and animations in the operating system, meaning that the FPS is increased to a constant 60FPS. Obviously other things are done so that the devices can handle this change, but this is what happens at basic level. For this to be incorporated into games, you will have to get the developer to make the same changes and make it work effectively with your phone's hardware.
But no, project butter only affects the Android OS animations, and not gaming.
Someone is welcome to correct me if I am wrong and I will change this post accordingly.
If i wanted to get an iphone i would have got one instead of the S3. i know that jelly bean improves the fps of the ui to 60fps, but what i wanted to know if anyone knows is will jeyy bean also improve the framerate of games?
Consequently No.
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This is completely incorrect, sorta? If you install Nova Launcher, it's essentially a game. I know you don't play it, but it's an application that does exactly the same as a game, uses your phones CPU and RAM. Project Butter works by ramping up the CPU each and every time the screen is touched in all aspects of the OS, be gaming or custom launcher. This may not increase the speed of a game or improve it, because it's mainly more responsive to touch so I'm not too sure about that bit.
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Will this jellybean allow us to move apps/games to external sd?
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Im very new to android and was very surprised that the GS 3 was giving me lower than expected framerates when playing NOVA 3. I wrongly expected that the phone would be able to run all games at 60fps. bad NOVA 3 seems to run at between 40fps - 60fps...... very rarely staying at a constant 60fps. or is it just my phone?? i have noticed the same with riptide too. most of the time it is very smooth but when all of the jets are on the screen at the same time the framerate drops... so im really hoping that jelly bean will help to fix this or not???
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I experience the same choppiness on riptide. It really kills the experience.
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Even more annoying thing is: the US GS3 doesn't seem to suffer the same problem even with it's crappy Adreno 225.
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JB is a new version of an operating system, it changes nothing in the layout of the filesystem.
You can, with some manual work and root, already move the apps to the external sd.
I'm sure someont will make an app for that but for now it's as good as it can get
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What about battery? Will jelly bean increase battery life
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What about battery? Will jelly bean increase battery life
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Higher frame-rates and more aggressive cpu scaling won't increase battery life.
I differ from all who said it doesnt improve on games. Games that used to be laggy on my nexus with ics now play smoothly on jellybean
Ugghhh, So many misinformed people. The reason games don't play smoothly is because they're not optimized to fit with the modified mali400 gpu. Give it time, games will be optimized. Hell nova3 runs like butter on my s2 and the gpu is similar. It is possible for an os to increase gpu performance, ics saw a 20% improvement over gb. But i doubt they changed Amy code dealing with that for jb.
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No, it will not.
The reason games are smoother and faster on the iPhone compared to the S3 is the same reason why PS3 games are smoother than the latest and fastest pcs. It's because games are optimised specifically for the iPhone, while android games are all lousy ports.
To have a game run super well on the s3, we'll need to hope for a Mali-optimised game, which won't happen any time soon, considering the influence of ios and tegra.
Yes it will improve the framerate somehow. In theory it shouldn't but it does.
For example, before Samsung Galaxy S2 got the ICS update, on Nenamark 2 it only achieved around 47fps, now with 53fps with ICS update.
Another example would be the Nexus 7, while it has a Tegra 3 built in, it's GPU is a lower clock at 427Mhz (Something like that) and achieves 55fps on Nenamark 2 compared to Asus Transformer Prime with a higher clock GPU (533Mhz) and only achieving around 48fps. (Both have same resolution, but different Android OS, Jelly Bean vs Ice Cream Sandwich).
I'll be getting the Galaxy S3 (Again) but the blue version (Grey-ish really), but I remember that Nova 3 and Riptide (With Tegra effects) played smoothly on Siyahkernel v1.2.x, I don't know now, but give it a try.
It won't necessarily require JB to make games run faster. It'll require Samsung to provide updated drivers for the Mali GPU. Whether that comes with an ICS or a JB update is irrelevant.
There seems have little improvements from ICS to Jelly Bean.
However;I still don't have clear ideas about ICS and Jelly Bean.
Guys,please tell me their main differences.
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There seems have little improvements from ICS to Jelly Bean.
However;I still don't have clear ideas about ICS and Jelly Bean.
Guys,please tell me their main differences.
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See here for the full (simplified) "changelog": http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html.
Well they are pretty much the same when it comes to the UI.But there are some big under the hood improvements speed wise.What I am trying to say is that google wanted to achieve the fluidity of iOS so that it becomes a bigger competition to apple.The name of the fluidity project is project butter which represents the enhancements on JB.Also another new thing is the voice assistant which by far is the fastest one available on the market.
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Well they are pretty much the same when it comes to the UI.But there are some big under the hood improvements speed wise.What I am trying to say is that google wanted to achieve the fluidity of iOS so that it becomes a bigger competition to apple.The name of the fluidity project is project butter which represents the enhancements on JB.Also another new thing is the voice assistant which by far is the fastest one available on the market.
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when it comes the voice assistant,what do you think of nexus voice assistant comparing with those of iphone and galaxy s3's?
I flashed DLI Jelly Bean and first thing I noticed, gaming performance is dismal, games show less consistent framerates, and as low as 40% less fps in some cases. (shadowgun for instance, MC3 also suffers somewhat)
I've read that the Samsung "official" JB firmware for poland is using old Mali drivers, so that should be the reason for this poor performance issue.
Is there a JB custom rom that is implementing older or optimized Mali GPU drivers? This should solve the issue.
If not, is there an ICS ROM that is good for gaming?
I know it sounds like a dumb question but is the Jelly Bean Roms created for SII actually running Jelly Bean OS made for the SII hardware? This is just a question because I don't know this level of the OS. I do know JB is a faster OS because the CPU no longer clashes GPU when the previous OS they did. I'm not sure if I'm using the correct terminology because when I read about Jelly Bean, Jelly Bean wasn't even out yet.
The reason I'm asking is because when I upgraded my ROM on my S3 from stock ICS to the stock JB I noticed a slight speed difference. I also noticed a Quadrant speed difference with when I ran a test before and after. I performed 3 test each before and after to get an average.
I did the same test on my on my S2 which was running the stock ICS rooted. I tried a couple of JB Rom's and the Quadrant test where just about the same as ICS which reason for my question.
Besides the speed difference, I like the JB Rom's much better. I just thought I would see a tad more speed going to JB.
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I know it sounds like a dumb question but is the Jelly Bean Roms created for SII actually running Jelly Bean OS made for the SII hardware? This is just a question because I don't know this level of the OS. I do know JB is a faster OS because the CPU no longer clashes GPU when the previous OS they did. I'm not sure if I'm using the correct terminology because when I read about Jelly Bean, Jelly Bean wasn't even out yet.
The reason I'm asking is because when I upgraded my ROM on my S3 from stock ICS to the stock JB I noticed a slight speed difference. I also noticed a Quadrant speed difference with when I ran a test before and after. I performed 3 test each before and after to get an average.
I did the same test on my on my S2 which was running the stock ICS rooted. I tried a couple of JB Rom's and the Quadrant test where just about the same as ICS which reason for my question.
Besides the speed difference, I like the JB Rom's much better. I just thought I would see a tad more speed going to JB.
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I think you're asking about project butter, but you don't know what you're talking about with that.
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1) Yes, the ROM is S2 ROM, including kernel for S2 HW.
2) Benchmarks generally and Quadrant specifically are one of the most useless inventions phone-wise.
3) The "speed-up" is visual only.
Hi i am on ICS and is perfect to me, but im considering updating to JB 4.1.2 because of the alleged Sudden Death fix of the new rom.
But im wondering this:
1) How the battery duration compares, using the same configuration on both ICS and JB 4.1.2, witch one last longer and how much longer?
2) Witch one uses more system ram?
3 Does JB 4.1.2 has any bugs or anything bad that ICS doesn't has?
jelly bean takes up more ram, cpu and battery..but is a lot faster than ics and doesn't have any bugs
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doesn't have any bugs
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0mega007 said:
Hi i am on ICS and is perfect to me, but im considering updating to JB 4.1.2 because of the alleged Sudden Death fix of the new rom.
But im wondering this:
1) How the battery duration compares, using the same configuration on both ICS and JB 4.1.2, witch one last longer and how much longer?
2) Witch one uses more system ram?
3 Does JB 4.1.2 has any bugs or anything bad that ICS doesn't has?
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