Hi all,
We all know that rSAP is not supported by Android
Those with carkits (VW, Audi, etc) with this profile cannot use their Android phone. A massive disappointment.
What will it take to get someone write some code to get this bluetooth profile to work on - for starters - the basic Froyo code for Nexus?
I'd be happy to kick off a project with a $150 donation or an HTC Hero (such as for testing).
Assuming we can get more people together who are interested in this (I am positive!), the big question remains - who would be able to write the required code?
MC
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We need rSAP
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In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
TFox said:
In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
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Thanks, I found it and repeated my post there as well.
I really hope that someone can come up with something. Surely, as you say it works on the Galaxy S, one must be able to get this to work on the Nexus One, or any other Android phone for that matter.
Hoping to see some more replies here! Or maybe a recommendation of a programmer who might be able to do this.
Cheers, MC
Hi, I have the RSAP working on an Samsung galaxy i9000 wich my Audi built in car phone. The only hing bugging is the sync of phonebok. It synces alright, but with phone conacts only. It took me a while to realize that phone conacts and my primarily used exchange contact list are two different things in this setting. First I had believed it synces only sim contacts. While this is not the problem, I have not found a way yet to "replicate" the synced exchange contacts or map them to the phone phonebok from business contacts, wich would make them visible to the carphone via rSAP.
maybe someone here knows a solution or an app that would solve this? The rSAP itself works, as Samsung has implemented it into the Galaxy i9000.
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I will exceed the OP's donation and donate $151 who ever manages to crack the rSAP on Android. Samsing just made the sourcecode (search: Samsung releases Captivate source code) so there seems to also be a ZIP file for the GT-I9000 (European Samsung Galaxy S).
I am stuck with TouchHD for my VW PremiumGSM, and would love to get an Android.
Cheers and keep it up devs!!
+1!
plz, an app for rsap on n1!
Android on GSM... maybe, but limited; CDMA not likely
According to a post 4402, "rSAP allows different devices to connect to your mobile's SIM Card to read your contacts etc. The car than uses its own antenna and gsm Module to call. The mobile phone goes in a stand by mode which needs very low energy."
If this is true, then your rSAP-bluetooth connection is actually hijacking your sim card ID and using it to place calls and receive calls through the car's integrated GSM radio, and not actually synching as it seems. In this case (in the US), there is no Verizon or Sprint fix because neither network uses SIM card (chip based ID profiles) technology, and furthermore, both their networks are CDMA and therefore incompatible with Bentley, VW and Audi GSM modules. If the connection could be bridged, the car's GSM radio would be seeking access to a network the CDMA user is not subscribed to.
So the definitive end is that as long as you have a VAG auto, you better have an rSAP GSM phone to use with it.
Ironically, Apple iPhones are GSM and they have had a longstanding good relationship with VAG, so I am surprised to find them boxed out of compatibility with Audi and VW especially. I am not certain, but it could have something to do with Apple's unique provisioning architecture is as much as they do not have a readily accessible SIM card (or battery), and in doing so, they are not respecting the need for SIM portability.
When I worked at a multi-carrier mobile phone reseller years ago, I briefly had a SIM-card based phone that I could then take the SIM card from and insert it into any GSM phone (from the same carrier) and use that phone to place and receive calls. This same migration can be effected in CDMA technology, but only through over-the-air provisioning, and that process is not as immediate as the rSAP SIM takeover process seems to be.
I'll keep looking into this matter, but perhaps the upgrade we should be barking for is to have VAG integrate support for the same bluetooth profile (HFP) that BMW does. BMWs from 2007 on with bluetooth will connect to my Droid X all day. rSAP just overtakes your SIM id and uses it to place and receive calls on the car's GSM radio. Of course it also can access a portion of your Address Book, but after that, you are stuck with the features offered in your car's radio and no longer have full utility of your Droid phone features and apps, etc. As a result, Google Voice search will be a non-starter for Android rSAP unless the car's GSM radio is actually running Android OS as well. And how likely is that...
maybe this could help?
http://allforfreelancers.com/getafr...Android-iPhone-J2ME-Nokia-Symbian-726296.html
Rsap works..but no Bluetooth audio
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
I have a NTG1 Comand in my Mercedes, and the rSAP conection works like charme, with the SGS(2.2.1 jpy).
Only thing that not works is the PBAP so only my sim card contacs r listed!
Mike
tommylad said:
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
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Hi, Bluetooth Audio works exactly as it works with bluetooth headset: you need to launch a music player on the phone and then the audio will be transfered to your car's speakers. I just got my new VW Touran and SGS works almost fine with it (having troubles with the contacts with emails, which are not synced to the car). I think I'm going to get an SDHC card for my music (Media-IN works great with a usb drive).
Cheers
Was talking with Pioneer regarding their AVIC series as well as others but mainly about using an Android phone to control Pandora just like they allow the iPhone too. This is what they asked me:
Do the Android phones support the remote control protocol that is required to control the phone from an external unit? That remote protocol is why the AVIC-X920BT works with the iPhone through PandoraLink.
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Im trying to get Pioneer to come out with an Android app to control the phone(or at least Pandora) from the headunit
Not sure if the Galaxy S/Vibrant comes is compatible or if another Android platform is? I can play and pause Pandora from my X920BT head unit through Bluetooth but would rather control everything from the headunit like most people can that have an Iphone and a Pioneer Head Unit with Pandora Link.
It sounds like you're thinking of AVRCP, which is a standard BT profile. There are different versions of it that reveal different capabilities.
1.0 covers basic play/pause/stop. 1.3 adds the ability to see what the current status is (playing, paused or stopped), as well as metadata (such as artist, album and track information). 1.4 adds even more features, such as the ability to control multiple devices, browse through the devices' metadata including a "now playing" playlist, and even basic search abilities.
However, what you are talking about seems to be the reverse of what most people want with their handsets and BT. I'm not certain if AVRCP support is inherently bidirectional. However, now that there is a name to what you are looking for, perhaps someone can steer you in the right direction.
(And, BTW, this really ought to be moved to Vibrant Q&A, since this really has nothing to do with development.)
Thanks, can a mod move this thread for me? Greatly appreciated
I am with you on this.....
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Was talking with Pioneer regarding their AVIC series as well as others but mainly about using an Android phone to control Pandora just like they allow the iPhone too. This is what they asked me:
Im trying to get Pioneer to come out with an Android app to control the phone(or at least Pandora) from the headunit
Not sure if the Galaxy S/Vibrant comes is compatible or if another Android platform is? I can play and pause Pandora from my X920BT head unit through Bluetooth but would rather control everything from the headunit like most people can that have an Iphone and a Pioneer Head Unit with Pandora Link.
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I also have a X920BT and would certainly LOVE to see the Android interface working. Shout if you do need help. But it seems like you made more progress than me. I contacted them about three months ago and it does not seem like they were very interested in talking with me. You are one step ahead.
Maybe if we can get more Andoid/X920BT users to pole them for attention, they may do something about it....
Good work!
Heres the email I got from Pioneer:
Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.
Unfortunately as of right now we have not received any information about adding support for the Android operating system. But with the Droid phones becoming extremely popular and more and more people asking for it could just be a matter of time before we issue some update to add that feature.
Thank You,
Kevin
Customer Service Representative
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From email: [email protected]
Everyone needs to start emailing them so they will be forced to come out with this feature
First off, I LOVE CM7 on my DX2. Having very few concerns with it. Seems to be very stable.
I've read several other threads on the bluetooth MAP profile being implemented for CM7 on the DX2. All other threads talk about the Ford Sync/My Touch systems.
I was wanting to try it on a Toyota Entune equipped vehicle. I work for Toyota and would be very willing to alpha/beta test a ROM that supports this MAP (Messaging Access Profile) feature.
Does anyone know if CM7 has this support or is it on the horizon?
Thanks in advance!
Prior to my recent discovery of the XDA community and others alike, I searched through Audi forums with no such luck to finding my answer.
Now that I have access to the minds of the tech world, I figured my answer might be answered quickly and correctly.
I have paired my Rezound to my car without a hitch (with ICS & CleamROM, the early GB stock acted up constantly). However, I am looking for a way, if at all possible, to upload my contacts via Bluetooth (there is a dock in the center console but I doubt they make an attachment for the Rezound). I would also like to be able to play music from my music apps such as Pandora, Google Music, etc. via Bluetooth.
I bought the car used, and I'm going to assume the software in the car (it has navi) hasn't been updated since it was first purchased.
My goal is to get a definitive answer as to whether my car is capable of either (uploading contacts via Bluetooth & streaming music via Bluetooth over the car speakers) and if so, what is needed to go about doing so (do I need to update the cars software and such or download an app or tweak some settings to make it work).
Appreciate what you guys do here, been utilizing this forum for months now and have learned a ton. Hoping to soon use my new found knowledge to help others that are new & transition for my noob status of just reading, learning & asking questions.
Sent from my Rooted, $-Off'ed, CleanROM 1.3 Dev. Edition Rezound!
As i saw a few threads about this topic, but still no helpful answer, if there were any at all, i wanted to ask:
Is it posstible to implement a bluetooth profile, especially the Hands Free Profile v1.5, as an Android App?!
I have a HTC Sensation and before the update to Android 4 my hands-free kit (Nokia CK-15W) show me my device name, provider, cell stats and battery stats.
Afer updating to Android 4, which brought the HFP v1.6, the hands-free kit only shows me the device name. All other informations are gone, since placing calls through the kit is still possible.
So, after reading specifications of the hands-free kit i figured out, it only uses 2 profiles: HFP v1.5 and PAC (Phonebook Acces Profile) v1.0
So i'm pretty shure the bug is somewhere in the communication with the HFP v1.5 and v1.6