Hi there!
I've read somewhere that the best thing is not to use SetCPU when I have another kernel controller installed. But in my case sTweaks only goes to 1.7ghz and SetCPU goes to 1.8ghz.. Also SetCPU has a "screen off" profile which I like very much and find suitable for my needs.
When activated, which one of theese apps wins over the other?
Regards Kim
keem85 said:
Hi there!
I've read somewhere that the best thing is not to use SetCPU when I have another kernel controller installed. But in my case sTweaks only goes to 1.7ghz and SetCPU goes to 1.8ghz.. Also SetCPU has a "screen off" profile which I like very much and find suitable for my needs.
When activated, which one of theese apps wins over the other?
Regards Kim
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they are different,stweaks is SIYAHKERNEL dedicated apps
in my case,they are work together.
yep they can be used together. in fact setCPU overrides what you setup-ed in Stweaks. because Stweaks only applies settings during boot time
Thanks alot! I'm using siyah.. So sTweaks changes the values permanent while SetCPU is a realtime overclock. I understand now! Thanks..
I still don't understand why sTweaks can't change the value to 1.8ghz when the siyahkernel allows it. But that's another story
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Hi guys,
I've been looking fruitlessly for an FAQ where the following stuff is described:
- discussion of the different governors (smartass/smoothass/performance/...)
- discussion of the methods for overclocking (is NoFrills the only/preferred way to set overclocking, or are there better tools?)
thanks for pointing me in the right direction...
dryhte said:
Hi guys,
I've been looking fruitlessly for an FAQ where the following stuff is described:
- discussion of the different governors (smartass/smoothass/performance/...)
- discussion of the methods for overclocking (is NoFrills the only/preferred way to set overclocking, or are there better tools?)
thanks for pointing me in the right direction...
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Hi Drythe,
I don't know if there's a FAQ around here for that. As far as OC apps are concerned I've only used SetCPU which is free for download at its XDA thread. I guess NoFrills does the same as SetCPU but I've never tried it out as I never needed to. If you're using CM7 and you have CM's submenu under settings you can even set there the min/max CPU frequencies, the governor and the set-on-boot option. That's the standard options. SetCPU also gives you the possibility of defining min/max/governor profiles for a number of different scenarios (battery percentage or temperature;screen on/off, etc.) As for a way of setting the OC, any one of them is enough and none will give you better OC per se, of course
Choose the one you like the most and use it, it won't make a difference on the OC.
About the governors, some of them are self-explanatory (conservative, powersave, performance,...), some of them may not be. You'd be better off googling for the specific governor you want to know about and reading some results about it.
If you have the time and compile that information into a new thread, the better.
Happy OCing!
Cheers!
And when you do, please post in relevant section (not dev )
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And when you do, please post in relevant section (not dev )
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Yes yes yes...
By the way, Smoothass appears to be a very elusive target. I'm using it but couldn't find any info
Smoothass is an improved smartass. The way it scales between the frequencies was changed but mantains the smartass original concept. From what I reckon, smoothass is the advisable one to use.
Cheers.
is smoothass an improved smartass like said above?
Long time lurker... so I've done a lot of reading on this, but haven't seen anyone have the same problem I'm having so I'm curious if anyone can offer any insight.
I'm using the glitch 11.1 kernel running cyanogen mod 7 build 10.
Any time I set my CPU and OC it changes the IO settings, the CPU governor, OR undervolt the dif cpu states, they ALL reset after a reboot.
I've tried the kernel wiper script, and I've edited the kernel zip with the added script posted in the Glitch thread that'll make the CPU governor stay set... nothing seems to work.
This has happened ever since I started using CM7. The only way I can get the CPU state to stay set is to use the built in CPU governor in the CYNMODSETTING Performance section... but that doesn't help me with the undervolt.
Can anyone offer any insight? Am I overlooking something here? ****s killing me lol
EDIT: BTW... I hit "APPLY CHANGES" and "Save as boot settings" of course... just in case you all were wondering.
Thank you for posting in the right section!
You are using the voltage control app correct?
I just tested this on my phone. I am running the low version of the kernel (lucky phone I guess) and after a reboot my settings are still the same.
Maybe it is the type of glitch kernel you are using?
Try one of the others he has in the link and see if that fixes it. Worth a shot.
I am also assuming your using the recommended voltage control or pimp my CPU correct?
So Whats the difference.
I prefer Tegrak just because it allows finer control over CPU settings but at the same time it seems more Dev's are willing to add setcpu support into the kernel vs tegrak.
My question is what is the real difference and which do you recommend?
I currently run both, setcpu for its profiles and Tegrak for its finer control, but should I switch to just setcpu or just tegrak?
TIA
Tegrak is a module which sits on top of an unaltered kernel, and alters it. Set CPU needs an altered kernel to function. Tegrak I think is the better and more stable option
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I don't think it's wise to have two apps controlling cpu settings at the same time. I would stick to one app only.
brianmay27 said:
So Whats the difference.
I prefer Tegrak just because it allows finer control over CPU settings but at the same time it seems more Dev's are willing to add setcpu support into the kernel vs tegrak.
My question is what is the real difference and which do you recommend?
I currently run both, setcpu for its profiles and Tegrak for its finer control, but should I switch to just setcpu or just tegrak?
TIA
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Don't run both, they will conflict with one another.
Hi everyone,
This is the first time owning a Samsung device, so the pegasusq governor is a new thing to me, I read about what it actually is on a thread but I wanted to ask to fellow S3 owners what are they using for great battery life - performance ratio?
I'm running Omega 6.0, slipstreamed loads of crap that is not needed (from the "safe to remove" thread) with Apex Launcher. I'm only using 2 homescreens, dark wallpaper, etc, the typical works to try and improve battery life.
Now the thing is, with SetCPU I'm running the default pegasusq governor ranging from 200mhz -1400mhz. Is the pegasusq governor the right choice here? Isn't it basically a variant of the OnDemand governor but Samsung proprietary for quadcore CPUs? I also recall reading a mention of S3's freezing or not waking up when it's set from the lowest underclocking point (200mhz), is that right? I've been using this for a few hours and no problems yet, but just wanted to know what are everyone elses experiences and what's the best configuration that has worked individually for you!
Cheers! Hope I complied with the rules, I did do a search but didn't find anything of this nature apart from a few separate questions!
I use the same governor, 100Mhz - 1704Mhz. No issues. Works great.
Siyah kernel is using pegasusq so i think it is the best governer there is. if you're on stock kernel or lowest underclocking is 200mhz but in custom kernels you can use 100mhz.
I have set my SetCPU to 100mhz - 1200mhz and undervolting all 18-steps to -50mv. I seldom reboot my phone but not encounter any freeze on boot
You should try tweaks for improving the battery life and peformance. Like supercharger, zipalling , random build.prop tweaks.... Etc xD but yeah use the samsungs "for quad core"
Thank you for the prompt replies everyone!
I remember with my Desire the whole development community was pretty much "set in stone" if you will, so it was really easy to choose a kernel etc.
Is there a kernel that you recommend? Is anyone using a "Screen Off" profile without any problems? If so what's the range you have it set at? That's what I was mostly scared as I remember on my Desire the lockscreen or taking calls would lag quite a bit but obviously this is a different beast altogether!
I'm also using AutoKiller Memory with Extreme Settings and some tweaks applied as well.
I use Siyah clocked 100-1704 screen on. 100-300 screen off. No issues.
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Is there a kernel that you recommend? Is anyone using a "Screen Off" profile without any problems? If so what's the range you have it set at? That's what I was mostly scared as I remember on my Desire the lockscreen or taking calls would lag quite a bit but obviously this is a different beast altogether!
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I set mine to 100-600 not having any issues, when reiveng notification/phone calls doesn't lag at all. Just don't use "power saving" option.
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I'm also using AutoKiller Memory with Extreme Settings and some tweaks applied as well.
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3rd party apps don't to any good to battery life it only consumes more(for me) cause it's always running in your background which consumes memory and also battery life.
stock task manager is pretty good, been use it always. Closing all apps and clearing memory
bordikun said:
I set mine to 100-600 not having any issues, when reiveng notification/phone calls doesn't lag at all. Just don't use "power saving" option.
3rd party apps don't to any good to battery life it only consumes more(for me) cause it's always running in your background which consumes memory and also battery life.
stock task manager is pretty good, been use it always. Closing all apps and clearing memory
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Nah, Autokiller isnt a task manager.
Basically, Android automatically kills empty processes (etc) at specified RAM levels. It does this anyway. But on High end RAM packed devices, these values are too low to be of any use as the phone will seldom hit that low a level of free RAM.
Autokiller simply adjusts these values to be more useful for high end devices.
Actually, you don't need autokiller to do this. You can do it in an init.d script although I've not tested this on the SGS3 as I haven't seen a need.
Here is an example I wrote for my Desire AOSP ROM:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
echo "8192,16384,19200,23040,25600,30720" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
Default SGS3 is:
Code:
8192, 10240, 12288, 14336, 16387, 25600
These are for:
Foreground App, Visible App, Secondary Server, Hidden App, Content Provider, Empty App
Hi there, I am using Omega V9.0 with SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8 and the app EdTweaks. But I can not get hoger than 1.6MHz. I read the specs and it said steps to 1.8GHz with the SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8.
Is it somewhere hidden?
You need more voltage, but take care.
Enviado pelo meus dedos
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
I overclocked my calculator the other day. I got 1,9 MHz. Crazy.
My phone does 1,8 GHz
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
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Hi,
For the 1.8Ghz slot the voltage is 1450mV, try by 25mV steps...
But I don't know the "tolerance" of maximum voltage, in my opinion don't go above 1500mV.
Maybe your CPU can't handle 1.8Ghz, if it's like some other phones, some can handle higher overclock, others can't...
You can use SetCpu, mostly don't set anything at boot...
EDIT:Re reading the OP..., in fact you do not see the 1.8Ghz slot???
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Hi,
That's what I thought after thought , thanks.
It's right in ExTweaks there is not the 1.7/1.8Ghz slots
So you can use SetCpu, the 1.7Ghz and 1.8Ghz slots are present.
Originally Posted by sxi200
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
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Voltage control will override the extweaks settings and sets the voltage according to your oc selection. Just open it and set to 1.8. If all is well you can set it at boot. If nit just reboot and reset but increase the voltage.
You can also check to see what it's running using CPU spy.
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victorator said:
I overclocked my calculator the other day. I got 1,9 MHz. Crazy.
My phone does 1,8 GHz
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:laugh: I mean 1.8GHz :laugh:
nodstuff said:
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Yes, that what I ment :good:
Thanks everyone for thinking with me.
sxi200 said:
Voltage control will override the extweaks settings and sets the voltage according to your oc selection. Just open it and set to 1.8. If all is well you can set it at boot. If nit just reboot and reset but increase the voltage.
You can also check to see what it's running using CPU spy.
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But in ExTweaks there is no CPU slot for 1.7 or 1.8GHz. Only 1.6GHz. It has CPU undervolting. Is standard on NO.
But you can override GPU voltages levels. I don`t know how to use these or does it effect on the CPU?
I have use the app CPU Master of AnTuTu. Here there is a 1.8HHz slot but after rebooting and after a benchmark it is still 1.6GHz???
Perhaps I have to use the app SetCPU.
In Cpu Master have you tick set on boot?
Maybe a bit risky to 1.8Ghz unless you have tested this frequency for a long time and all is fine.
In any case with SetCpu the CPU freq remains after reboot.
And this is what I said, in ExTweaks there is not 1.7 and 1.8Ghz slot...Maybe ask to gokhanmoral why or if this is normal?
And the GPU setting affects only the GPU, not the CPU.
You can also try System Tuner on the Play Store for yours CPU settings, but be careful to not multiply the CPU apps setting to avoid conflicts in case of different settings in each apps
For example use only ExTweaks for your GPU settings and only SetCpu for your CPU settings... not more.
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In Cpu Master have you tick set on boot? Probably not, must check it.
Maybe a bit risky to 1.8Ghz unless you have tested this frequency for a long time and all is fine.
In any case with SetCpu the CPU freq remains after reboot.
And this is what I said, in ExTweaks there is not 1.7 and 1.8Ghz slot...Maybe ask to gokhanmoral why or if this is normal?
And the GPU setting affects only the GPU, not the CPU.
You can also try System Tuner on the Play Store for yours CPU settings, but be careful to not multiply the CPU apps setting to avoid conflicts in case of different settings in each apps
For example use only ExTweaks for your GPU settings and only SetCpu for your CPU settings... not more.
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So it is better to leave this way, only use ExTweak and uninstall the other tweak apps?
Yes, I would say to keep only one app for your CPU settings.If the 1.6Ghz slot is good enough for you or your usage keep it like that.If you want test above 1.6Ghz then installs SetCpu but use only SetCpu for your CPU settings, not extweaks because there could be conflicts (maybe) if you set 1.6Ghz in ExTweaks and 1.8Ghz in SetCpu, not normally but you never know.
And with ExTweaks you can set many other things with Siyah kernel like GPU, sound, etc... so with this kernel ExTweaks is the best app, obiously
It really depends on what you want LOL, SetCpu is very complete for CPU settings but only for that (volatge, governor settings).
In my opinion just keep ExTweaks with your overclock at 1.6Ghz and you are good!
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But in ExTweaks there is no CPU slot for 1.7 or 1.8GHz. Only 1.6GHz. It has CPU undervolting. Is standard on NO.
But you can override GPU voltages levels. I don`t know how to use these or does it effect on the CPU?
I have use the app CPU Master of AnTuTu. Here there is a 1.8HHz slot but after rebooting and after a benchmark it is still 1.6GHz???
Perhaps I have to use the app SetCPU.
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When I said voltage control, I didn't mean voltage control in extweaks. Voltage Control is an app in the play store which will allow you to set the CPU to 1.8. It overrides the settings used in extweaks. Set it to 1.8 and it will adjust the voltages accordingly. You can even change them independently if you like. Test at 1.8 for a few days and if you have no problems then tick to set it at boot. You will know if it's overclocked to 1.8 with CPU spy also from the play store.
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Aha
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When I said voltage control, I didn't mean voltage control in extweaks. Voltage Control is an app in the play store which will allow you to set the CPU to 1.8. It overrides the settings used in extweaks. Set it to 1.8 and it will adjust the voltages accordingly. You can even change them independently if you like. Test at 1.8 for a few days and if you have no problems then tick to set it at boot. You will know if it's overclocked to 1.8 with CPU spy also from the play store.
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Aha voltage control is an app. I will look for it and found it. Finally there is the 1.8GHz :victory:
What to set with on demand? In ExTweaks they use pegasusq and in Voltage Control they use ondemand. There is also hotplug and performance. Is it better to deinstall the other tweak cpu apps?
Anyway this does not work. The same with CPU Master. Set it on 1.8GHz but it is hanging now with a benchmark. After rebooting it is back at 1.6GHz. Do I have to use another kernel?
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Yes, I would say to keep only one app for your CPU settings.If the 1.6Ghz slot is good enough for you or your usage keep it like that.If you want test above 1.6Ghz then installs SetCpu but use only SetCpu for your CPU settings, not extweaks because there could be conflicts (maybe) if you set 1.6Ghz in ExTweaks and 1.8Ghz in SetCpu, not normally but you never know.
And with ExTweaks you can set many other things with Siyah kernel like GPU, sound, etc... so with this kernel ExTweaks is the best app, obiously
It really depends on what you want LOL, SetCpu is very complete for CPU settings but only for that (volatge, governor settings).
In my opinion just keep ExTweaks with your overclock at 1.6Ghz and you are good!
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First I try what sxi200 said about Voltage Control.
I am not happy
Tested the Voltage Control but after setting it on 1.8GHz and tried a benchmark it is dead :crying:
Had to put the battery out for 10 minutes. I think I use ExTweaks with the Siyah kernel at 1.6GHz pffffffff
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Aha voltage control is an app. I will look for it and found it. Finally there is the 1.8GHz :victory:
What to set with on demand? In ExTweaks they use pegasusq and in Voltage Control they use ondemand. There is also hotplug and performance. Is it better to deinstall the other tweak cpu apps?
Anyway this does not work. The same with CPU Master. Set it on 1.8GHz but it is hanging now with a benchmark. After rebooting it is back at 1.6GHz. Do I have to use another kernel?
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Yeah I did set it to 1.8 a while ago and it also hung during benchmark tests. Maybe it needs more voltage at 1.8. Might be worth a try increasing it in the Voltage Control app.
After reboot it goes back to 1.6 unless you set it at boot within the vc app. But risky until you sort out the freezing issues. I'd recommend not to set it for now.
Personally, I found 1.6 to be fast enough so I just use extweaks. Also probably better for battery as well.
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