[Q] Tegrak vs setcpu - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So Whats the difference.
I prefer Tegrak just because it allows finer control over CPU settings but at the same time it seems more Dev's are willing to add setcpu support into the kernel vs tegrak.
My question is what is the real difference and which do you recommend?
I currently run both, setcpu for its profiles and Tegrak for its finer control, but should I switch to just setcpu or just tegrak?
TIA

Tegrak is a module which sits on top of an unaltered kernel, and alters it. Set CPU needs an altered kernel to function. Tegrak I think is the better and more stable option
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I don't think it's wise to have two apps controlling cpu settings at the same time. I would stick to one app only.

brianmay27 said:
So Whats the difference.
I prefer Tegrak just because it allows finer control over CPU settings but at the same time it seems more Dev's are willing to add setcpu support into the kernel vs tegrak.
My question is what is the real difference and which do you recommend?
I currently run both, setcpu for its profiles and Tegrak for its finer control, but should I switch to just setcpu or just tegrak?
TIA
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Don't run both, they will conflict with one another.

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Setcpu

anyone know how to config this for our atrix? Thanks.
motoatrix said:
anyone know how to config this for our atrix? Thanks.
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Install 2.1.1a or higher, and select "Nvidia Tegra 2..." as the frequency set. You will not be able to configure it as much as other phones, due to the way the Motorola kernel is built. Not until a super-dev is able to build a custom kernel for the Atrix...
You can't change the governor, but you can still set the minimum/maximum frequencies based on profiles, etc.
u can reduce speed, set screen off profile and reduce speed even more
or u can run it @ 1ghz all the time but the max u'll get is 1 ghz
lindsaytheflint said:
Install 2.1.1a or higher, and select "Nvidia Tegra 2..." as the frequency set. You will not be able to configure it as much as other phones, due to the way the Motorola kernel is built. Not until a super-dev is able to build a custom kernel for the Atrix...
You can't change the governor, but you can still set the minimum/maximum frequencies based on profiles, etc.
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Yeah because we don't have a modified kernel yet (See bootloader issues) we can do a minimum 216 and max 1000. Profiles work nicely though.
SetCPU increases performance 10%
That's the difference I experienced when I installed it.
lindsaytheflint said:
Install 2.1.1a or higher, and select "Nvidia Tegra 2..." as the frequency set. You will not be able to configure it as much as other phones, due to the way the Motorola kernel is built. Not until a super-dev is able to build a custom kernel for the Atrix...
You can't change the governor, but you can still set the minimum/maximum frequencies based on profiles, etc.
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Battery savings during under clocking is just great..

[Q] Milestone 2 overclock

If I use the overclock function of Milestone 2 Toolbox (M2T), for overclocking to 1200mhz, and use the cpu control function of build-in CM7, to lock the frequency to 300mhz after display off, will this make a problem?
I mean, can I use two cpu control? As I cannot find a suitable apps to do these two things....
Yes, you can. It's probably still recommended that you use one. An app which can do both (and more) is SetCPU found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419 or (market link): https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking&hl=en.
Need help...
Hi,
Thanks for the info. I just flashed my ROM using the custom ROM Nightly v1.3 built by Endless7 and there is a overclocking tool comes with it using Milestone 2 Toolbox and CyanogenMod Performance Setting available. However the milestone 2 toolbox is lack of setting up profiles like Set CPU.
I have set underclocking using the Milestone 2 Toolbox for each frequency and set the governor to smartass in the CyanogenMod performance setting. So this means i still can used setCPU? and if i want to used the set CPU, must i set back all the setting to default before i'm using the SetCPU apps?
Can anyone give me the default value for the Vsel setting for the each frequency for Milestone 2?
I forgot to jot it down and it seems that i can't revert to default value using the Milestone 2 Toolbox.
Lots of thanks.
p/s : sorry if my post is in the wrong thread.

[Q] Votage Control V4.9.14r3 have no GPU settings?

OK..this might be a silly question, but why for my S2 (i9100), the Voltage Control apps don't have the GPU settings to undervolt? Am I seeing things by supposedly having the GPU settings or probably I make a mistake beforehand?..There are only 4 tabs..General, Voltages, Device Info, and About, while in the screenies in the Play Store, have GPU settings between Voltages and Device Info tab..any help?
Thanks
These things are kernel dependant, and the kernel also has to support GPU undervolting by Voltage Control.
Ah..i see...thanks for the answer, Mistah...really appreciate it
No probs ;-) The kernels I used to run under Gingerbread used to support GPU undervolting, but looks like the ICS kernels either don't support this yet or they're not compatible with Voltage Control supporting this.
Actually, I'm running SiyahV3rc2 & I just had a look at ExTweaks. It's possible to undervolt the GPU with ExTweaks on this build of Siyah, but ExTweaks only works with Siyah (ICS & GB).
Kaizneight said:
Ah..i see...thanks for the answer, Mistah...really appreciate it
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Things might have changed recently but if you don't have extweaks installed then voltage control will have the extra tab if supported by the kernel.
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Kaizneight said:
Ah..i see...thanks for the answer, Mistah...really appreciate it
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I got this issue too, and it was a conflict with ExTweaks...
I uninstalled ExTweaks and rebooted, and the GPU settings were enabled!

no 1.8MHz setting with SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8

Hi there, I am using Omega V9.0 with SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8 and the app EdTweaks. But I can not get hoger than 1.6MHz. I read the specs and it said steps to 1.8GHz with the SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8.
Is it somewhere hidden?
You need more voltage, but take care.
Enviado pelo meus dedos
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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sxi200 said:
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
I overclocked my calculator the other day. I got 1,9 MHz. Crazy.
My phone does 1,8 GHz
master64nl said:
But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
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Hi,
For the 1.8Ghz slot the voltage is 1450mV, try by 25mV steps...
But I don't know the "tolerance" of maximum voltage, in my opinion don't go above 1500mV.
Maybe your CPU can't handle 1.8Ghz, if it's like some other phones, some can handle higher overclock, others can't...
You can use SetCpu, mostly don't set anything at boot...
EDIT:Re reading the OP..., in fact you do not see the 1.8Ghz slot???
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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nodstuff said:
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Hi,
That's what I thought after thought , thanks.
It's right in ExTweaks there is not the 1.7/1.8Ghz slots
So you can use SetCpu, the 1.7Ghz and 1.8Ghz slots are present.
Originally Posted by sxi200
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
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Voltage control will override the extweaks settings and sets the voltage according to your oc selection. Just open it and set to 1.8. If all is well you can set it at boot. If nit just reboot and reset but increase the voltage.
You can also check to see what it's running using CPU spy.
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victorator said:
I overclocked my calculator the other day. I got 1,9 MHz. Crazy.
My phone does 1,8 GHz
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:laugh: I mean 1.8GHz :laugh:
nodstuff said:
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Yes, that what I ment :good:
Thanks everyone for thinking with me.
sxi200 said:
Voltage control will override the extweaks settings and sets the voltage according to your oc selection. Just open it and set to 1.8. If all is well you can set it at boot. If nit just reboot and reset but increase the voltage.
You can also check to see what it's running using CPU spy.
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But in ExTweaks there is no CPU slot for 1.7 or 1.8GHz. Only 1.6GHz. It has CPU undervolting. Is standard on NO.
But you can override GPU voltages levels. I don`t know how to use these or does it effect on the CPU?
I have use the app CPU Master of AnTuTu. Here there is a 1.8HHz slot but after rebooting and after a benchmark it is still 1.6GHz???
Perhaps I have to use the app SetCPU.
In Cpu Master have you tick set on boot?
Maybe a bit risky to 1.8Ghz unless you have tested this frequency for a long time and all is fine.
In any case with SetCpu the CPU freq remains after reboot.
And this is what I said, in ExTweaks there is not 1.7 and 1.8Ghz slot...Maybe ask to gokhanmoral why or if this is normal?
And the GPU setting affects only the GPU, not the CPU.
You can also try System Tuner on the Play Store for yours CPU settings, but be careful to not multiply the CPU apps setting to avoid conflicts in case of different settings in each apps
For example use only ExTweaks for your GPU settings and only SetCpu for your CPU settings... not more.
viking37 said:
In Cpu Master have you tick set on boot? Probably not, must check it.
Maybe a bit risky to 1.8Ghz unless you have tested this frequency for a long time and all is fine.
In any case with SetCpu the CPU freq remains after reboot.
And this is what I said, in ExTweaks there is not 1.7 and 1.8Ghz slot...Maybe ask to gokhanmoral why or if this is normal?
And the GPU setting affects only the GPU, not the CPU.
You can also try System Tuner on the Play Store for yours CPU settings, but be careful to not multiply the CPU apps setting to avoid conflicts in case of different settings in each apps
For example use only ExTweaks for your GPU settings and only SetCpu for your CPU settings... not more.
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So it is better to leave this way, only use ExTweak and uninstall the other tweak apps?
Yes, I would say to keep only one app for your CPU settings.If the 1.6Ghz slot is good enough for you or your usage keep it like that.If you want test above 1.6Ghz then installs SetCpu but use only SetCpu for your CPU settings, not extweaks because there could be conflicts (maybe) if you set 1.6Ghz in ExTweaks and 1.8Ghz in SetCpu, not normally but you never know.
And with ExTweaks you can set many other things with Siyah kernel like GPU, sound, etc... so with this kernel ExTweaks is the best app, obiously
It really depends on what you want LOL, SetCpu is very complete for CPU settings but only for that (volatge, governor settings).
In my opinion just keep ExTweaks with your overclock at 1.6Ghz and you are good!
master64nl said:
But in ExTweaks there is no CPU slot for 1.7 or 1.8GHz. Only 1.6GHz. It has CPU undervolting. Is standard on NO.
But you can override GPU voltages levels. I don`t know how to use these or does it effect on the CPU?
I have use the app CPU Master of AnTuTu. Here there is a 1.8HHz slot but after rebooting and after a benchmark it is still 1.6GHz???
Perhaps I have to use the app SetCPU.
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When I said voltage control, I didn't mean voltage control in extweaks. Voltage Control is an app in the play store which will allow you to set the CPU to 1.8. It overrides the settings used in extweaks. Set it to 1.8 and it will adjust the voltages accordingly. You can even change them independently if you like. Test at 1.8 for a few days and if you have no problems then tick to set it at boot. You will know if it's overclocked to 1.8 with CPU spy also from the play store.
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Aha
sxi200 said:
When I said voltage control, I didn't mean voltage control in extweaks. Voltage Control is an app in the play store which will allow you to set the CPU to 1.8. It overrides the settings used in extweaks. Set it to 1.8 and it will adjust the voltages accordingly. You can even change them independently if you like. Test at 1.8 for a few days and if you have no problems then tick to set it at boot. You will know if it's overclocked to 1.8 with CPU spy also from the play store.
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Aha voltage control is an app. I will look for it and found it. Finally there is the 1.8GHz :victory:
What to set with on demand? In ExTweaks they use pegasusq and in Voltage Control they use ondemand. There is also hotplug and performance. Is it better to deinstall the other tweak cpu apps?
Anyway this does not work. The same with CPU Master. Set it on 1.8GHz but it is hanging now with a benchmark. After rebooting it is back at 1.6GHz. Do I have to use another kernel?
viking37 said:
Yes, I would say to keep only one app for your CPU settings.If the 1.6Ghz slot is good enough for you or your usage keep it like that.If you want test above 1.6Ghz then installs SetCpu but use only SetCpu for your CPU settings, not extweaks because there could be conflicts (maybe) if you set 1.6Ghz in ExTweaks and 1.8Ghz in SetCpu, not normally but you never know.
And with ExTweaks you can set many other things with Siyah kernel like GPU, sound, etc... so with this kernel ExTweaks is the best app, obiously
It really depends on what you want LOL, SetCpu is very complete for CPU settings but only for that (volatge, governor settings).
In my opinion just keep ExTweaks with your overclock at 1.6Ghz and you are good!
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First I try what sxi200 said about Voltage Control.
I am not happy
Tested the Voltage Control but after setting it on 1.8GHz and tried a benchmark it is dead :crying:
Had to put the battery out for 10 minutes. I think I use ExTweaks with the Siyah kernel at 1.6GHz pffffffff
master64nl said:
Aha voltage control is an app. I will look for it and found it. Finally there is the 1.8GHz :victory:
What to set with on demand? In ExTweaks they use pegasusq and in Voltage Control they use ondemand. There is also hotplug and performance. Is it better to deinstall the other tweak cpu apps?
Anyway this does not work. The same with CPU Master. Set it on 1.8GHz but it is hanging now with a benchmark. After rebooting it is back at 1.6GHz. Do I have to use another kernel?
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Yeah I did set it to 1.8 a while ago and it also hung during benchmark tests. Maybe it needs more voltage at 1.8. Might be worth a try increasing it in the Voltage Control app.
After reboot it goes back to 1.6 unless you set it at boot within the vc app. But risky until you sort out the freezing issues. I'd recommend not to set it for now.
Personally, I found 1.6 to be fast enough so I just use extweaks. Also probably better for battery as well.
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[Q] sTweaks and SetCPU at the same time

Hi there!
I've read somewhere that the best thing is not to use SetCPU when I have another kernel controller installed. But in my case sTweaks only goes to 1.7ghz and SetCPU goes to 1.8ghz.. Also SetCPU has a "screen off" profile which I like very much and find suitable for my needs.
When activated, which one of theese apps wins over the other?
Regards Kim
keem85 said:
Hi there!
I've read somewhere that the best thing is not to use SetCPU when I have another kernel controller installed. But in my case sTweaks only goes to 1.7ghz and SetCPU goes to 1.8ghz.. Also SetCPU has a "screen off" profile which I like very much and find suitable for my needs.
When activated, which one of theese apps wins over the other?
Regards Kim
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they are different,stweaks is SIYAHKERNEL dedicated apps
in my case,they are work together.
yep they can be used together. in fact setCPU overrides what you setup-ed in Stweaks. because Stweaks only applies settings during boot time
Thanks alot! I'm using siyah.. So sTweaks changes the values permanent while SetCPU is a realtime overclock. I understand now! Thanks..
I still don't understand why sTweaks can't change the value to 1.8ghz when the siyahkernel allows it. But that's another story

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