[Q] Going from GB to JB on a USCC Electrify - Motorola Photon 4G

Kind of hard to navigate for an answer right now because the last few times I've tried the search tool on here it's said it's not working right now so I figured this would be the best way to get an answer. It seems a lot of the guides I've seen cover older builds, but I haven't seen any with details for the new Aroma Installer. Currently I'm using a deblurred GB ROM with CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.3-photon2.
I'm assuming first (after backups of course) I need Jokers recovery, but I'm not seeing downloads anywhere now since Jokers site is down.
Then I'm assuming I just need to use install zip from sdcard to run full-wipe, aroma_prep, aroma-2.56.
Then I use Aroma to install the ROM with the options file?
After the ROM has installed and started I assume I'll have to reset the APNs like on GB so I can get MMS back.
Is there any other things I need to do or am I wrong about installation method?

JB builds are being maintained by t3hbill and he isn't using aroma. Also, no need to full wipe. Just dalvik/cache, flash over current and fix permissions. I used twrp 2.2.0 and haven't had any issues. Then again, remember to backup in recovery just in case anything goes wrong.
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Skaarg said:
Kind of hard to navigate for an answer right now because the last few times I've tried the search tool on here it's said it's not working right now so I figured this would be the best way to get an answer. It seems a lot of the guides I've seen cover older builds, but I haven't seen any with details for the new Aroma Installer. Currently I'm using a deblurred GB ROM with CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.3-photon2.
I'm assuming first (after backups of course) I need Jokers recovery, but I'm not seeing downloads anywhere now since Jokers site is down.
Then I'm assuming I just need to use install zip from sdcard to run full-wipe, aroma_prep, aroma-2.56.
Then I use Aroma to install the ROM with the options file?
After the ROM has installed and started I assume I'll have to reset the APNs like on GB so I can get MMS back.
Is there any other things I need to do or am I wrong about installation method?
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you're using the wrong recovery. that one is well outdated and doesn't work. check out my site for download links to the recoveries (use the mirror links for jokers). all versions available are posted. TWRP, photon3 and both of jokers V3 and V4. i use the classic photon3 recovery. works perfectly. http://www.motosunfire.com/clockworkmod-recovery/
to install the rom. find the rom. flash it. flash gapps. reboot. add your apn's. (always wipe cache, data, system when changing roms to ensure a good clean install)

I've only entered my APNs once. I get MMS. And doesn't Joker's v4 recovery have a problem flashing Gapps? (Personally I use TWRP. Love it.)
I don't recommend keeping \data from GB to JB. When I did that going from GB to CM9, it boot looped. Had to start fresh.
Starting fresh isn't as bad as it sounds. Get on WiFi and put the time in to get it set how you like it. Personally, I'm a little lazy -- if I set something up one way, and later it bothers me, I'm not always up for going in and changing it. But if I start fresh? It's gonna be done how I most currently like it. Also keep up with the latest and greatest apps on blogs like Android and Me, Android Police, whatever you like, replace apps you've been using, maybe with something better. I've been using FBReader loyally for about 2 years. I just switched to Fabrik (the one that uses Dropbox to sync your place in the book). The interface could use work, but the app is literally days old. For that it's good. With all this flashing I do it's the only way I can see keeping a place in a book, and it's free. I'm not trying to plug it, it's just an example. Also switched from QuickOffice to Kingsoft Office (latter is totally free). Again, fresh start, fresh perspective. And fresh perspective, you enjoy your device more. Feels newer.

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First Time Rom Flash

Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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Wipe in clockwork. factory reset/cache/dalvik cache to do a full wipe. the kernel, depending on which one it is, is slightly over clocked. also rom manager does cause problems when installing roms. download them on your pc, or browser via the phone, place on teh root of the sd card (not in a folder) and flash in clock work
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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Sounds like you read up on the topic. Thank you. My only advice is that the gb roms all have tiny little bugs in them. Read up and if you don't care go for it.
If you want a completely stable phone... Stick with a group Rom. If you want all the cool new features and don't mind working around a few bugs... Go gb. Also make.sure to use the correct radio. Probably the MR 2!
Good luck.
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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I only use ROM Manager to reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery. It is the second option when you open ROM Manager. My method of flashing a new ROM (performing a full wipe plus a few steps):
1. Reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager.
2. Use Nandroid to backup your current configuration. Select backup and restore and then backup.
3. Select wipe data/factory reset. This will wipe all applications, contacts, text messages, bookmarks, etc. There are ways to back this information up (Titanium Backup for applications), but I will not go into full detail here.
4. Select wipe cache partition.
5. Select advanced and then wipe dalvik cache. (Most people recommend doing steps 4 and 5 three times in order to ensure it was done.)
6. Also in the advanced menu, select wipe battery stats. (You should do this when charged 100%, recommended for any new ROM flash.)
For some reason, if you flash in ROM Manager it can corrupt the ROM/flash. To avoid this, always use ClockworkMod Recovery.
If the ROM you flash utilizes one of Imoseyon's kernels (which BAMF does), you can use the speedtweak.sh method in terminal emulator (download from Market) descriped in Imoseyon's kernel thread. With a BAMF ROM, none of this is required. You can utilize the included BAMF Toolkit to overclock/underclock and set the governor. The Toolkit also includes a terminal emulator if you wish to try the speedtweak.sh method.
The above steps should be followed when flashing a new ROM. When upgrading versions of the same ROM, you can generally perform a minimal wipe. My understanding of a minimal wipe is the cache and dalvik cache only (three times).
Hope I didn't leave anything out. If so, others can correct me.
Thank you for describing this.. I watched several videos and read up alot but I don't want to mess up anything and do ti right.. I've got the BAMF remix 2.05 version 6 on my root directory on the SD card now and I'll wait till the phone is at full charge before running thr0ough this procedure. Thank you once more wool!
seabhac said:
Thank you for describing this.. I watched several videos and read up alot but I don't want to mess up anything and do ti right.. I've got the BAMF remix 2.05 version 6 on my root directory on the SD card now and I'll wait till the phone is at full charge before running thr0ough this procedure. Thank you once more wool!
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You will also have to flash the MR2 radio. There is a thread in the Development Forum. If you search the thread, you should be able to come up with the method to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115714
I flashed the ROM first, pulled the battery, and then booted in hboot (volume down plus power button). From there, hboot should find the radio and update. Most importantly, make sure the radio file you put on the root of your SD Card is named 'PG05IMG.zip' If you have Windows 7, make sure the .zip is not in there twice. By default, Windows 7 does not show file extensions.
to be safe with ur download make sure to check the md5
command in terminal and adb is
# /system/xbin/busybox md5sum /sdcard/so-so
i think.. lol
checking the md5 ensures ur download is legit.. i had a couple bad downloads causing bootloop.
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alluzzion2o9 said:
to be safe with ur download make sure to check the md5
command in terminal and adb is
# /system/xbin/busybox md5sum /sdcard/so-so
i think.. lol
checking the md5 ensures ur download is legit.. i had a couple bad downloads causing bootloop.
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Easy way with the MD5 I found is to download AFV (Android File Verifier) from market. I download the ROM from xda app onto phone, run AFV on ROM from phone and verify MD5 while also having thread up on computer. Seems easier with those long numbers.

[Q] Difficulty changing ROMs

For the record, I searched several times, but did not find an answer that seemed to fit this question. Also, I hope this isn't a ridiculous noob question.
A little background. I have/had a D1 which I rooted and changed ROMs on many times. It was easy. I either used a new .zip file or ROM Manager. I now have a Fascinate that I tried to root with SuperOneClickRoot, but it didn't seem to work as none of the 'root-only' apps would work. I then tried using Odin, but still had the same problem. I successfully used Odin to return to stock, but of course that was annoying and painful. Frustration got the best of me, and I tried again with Odin and was successful. I ran Odin, got to recovery, installed and ran a SuperClean ROM using the .zip file for many days.
Here's where the trouble begins. I decided to try a different ROM, so I rebooted into recovery, backed up my current ROM (or so I thought), and tried to load another .zip ROM. The first one would not load correctly, so I tried another, and then one more. I wiped the data and the cache before each try. None of them worked, so I thought, OK forget this, I'll go back to my backup and stick with it. NO BACKUP (for this phone) was listed under Backup or Advanced Backup. So, now I'm really stuck, because the only ROM I can get to work at all is Kaoscinate (sp?), but it will NOT work with 'root only' apps, like Titanium Backup'. I read a good bit on xda and tried to change with Odin, but I still had no real luck. I was able to get a SuperDark ROM to work, but it is on Android 2.1 and the 'root only' apps still do not work on it. I'm afraid to try another ROM change because of the issues I've had before. I want to go back to the SuperClean ROM. My phone is very important as it's my business line, so monkeying around with this trial and error is taking too long and making me very uncomfortable.
I can easily get to recovery, wipe data &/or cache, and install a new .zip, but will it boot or work for me? I believe the answer is no, so what am I doing wrong?
Will I have to go through Odin to restore to stock and then REDO the Odin root and go to a ROM that way? That is time-consuming and my confidence is low in that method working to get the ROM I want.
Is there some kind of fix for the 'root only' programs to be able to see that I AM rooted? I tried updating Busybox using Titanium, but that didn't do the trick. Plus, this time, I can't even get Titanium to open, because it says I'm not rooted.
Thanks in advance.
sigmtndawg said:
For the record, I searched several times, but did not find an answer that seemed to fit this question. Also, I hope this isn't a ridiculous noob question.
A little background. I have/had a D1 which I rooted and changed ROMs on many times. It was easy. I either used a new .zip file or ROM Manager. I now have a Fascinate that I tried to root with SuperOneClickRoot, but it didn't seem to work as none of the 'root-only' apps would work. I then tried using Odin, but still had the same problem. I successfully used Odin to return to stock, but of course that was annoying and painful. Frustration got the best of me, and I tried again with Odin and was successful. I ran Odin, got to recovery, installed and ran a SuperClean ROM using the .zip file for many days.
Here's where the trouble begins. I decided to try a different ROM, so I rebooted into recovery, backed up my current ROM (or so I thought), and tried to load another .zip ROM. The first one would not load correctly, so I tried another, and then one more. I wiped the data and the cache before each try. None of them worked, so I thought, OK forget this, I'll go back to my backup and stick with it. NO BACKUP (for this phone) was listed under Backup or Advanced Backup. So, now I'm really stuck, because the only ROM I can get to work at all is Kaoscinate (sp?), but it will NOT work with 'root only' apps, like Titanium Backup'. I read a good bit on xda and tried to change with Odin, but I still had no real luck. I was able to get a SuperDark ROM to work, but it is on Android 2.1 and the 'root only' apps still do not work on it. I'm afraid to try another ROM change because of the issues I've had before. I want to go back to the SuperClean ROM. My phone is very important as it's my business line, so monkeying around with this trial and error is taking too long and making me very uncomfortable.
I can easily get to recovery, wipe data &/or cache, and install a new .zip, but will it boot or work for me? I believe the answer is no, so what am I doing wrong?
Will I have to go through Odin to restore to stock and then REDO the Odin root and go to a ROM that way? That is time-consuming and my confidence is low in that method working to get the ROM I want.
Is there some kind of fix for the 'root only' programs to be able to see that I AM rooted? I tried updating Busybox using Titanium, but that didn't do the trick. Plus, this time, I can't even get Titanium to open, because it says I'm not rooted.
Thanks in advance.
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If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
To test root, simply open terminal emulator (free in market) and type "su" (no parentheses). It will notify you of a superuser request.
find an odin package for the baseband you want like EB01, EC01, ED01, etc (I use an all in one complete deodexed and debloated EB01 package myself) and the newest CWM 3. Odin them both, boot straight into cwm, wipe data/cache/dalvik, install the .zip rom of your choice from sd card and reboot phone. Should work fine, its the way I've done it and I've had few if any problems
edit: most roms like SuperClean, Evil, ComRom, etc are already rooted so there's no need to do anything special to gain root. the hardest part is flashing it correctly
You guys are awesome! Thanks!
If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1048380
^^This one worked great for me. I seem to have the Samsung things I like (their visual voice mail, their video player, etc.) without the other bloatware.
I do have one more question. You said 'flashing the ROM correctly'. Before, with my D1, that simply meant using RM to 'Load Custom ROM' or rebooting into recovery mode and installing another .zip file. That has not seemed to work on this phone. What is the correct way to load another ROM on these phones.
Again, thanks for the help!!
sigmtndawg said:
You guys are awesome! Thanks!
If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1048380
^^This one worked great for me. I seem to have the Samsung things I like (their visual voice mail, their video player, etc.) without the other bloatware.
I do have one more question. You said 'flashing the ROM correctly'. Before, with my D1, that simply meant using RM to 'Load Custom ROM' or rebooting into recovery mode and installing another .zip file. That has not seemed to work on this phone. What is the correct way to load another ROM on these phones.
Again, thanks for the help!!
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Do not use ROM manager at all for anything on the fascinate.
The correct way to flash on fascinate: Download ROM .zip file and place on the root directory or your sd card. Boot into CWM and wipe data/cache/ dalvik cache (dalvik is under advanced) choose install zip from sd card. Install and reboot. First reboot will take 5-10 minutes, so be patient.
Hope this helps.

Couple of questions regarding ROMs and such.

Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
Gutana said:
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
screamworks said:
Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
Gutana said:
Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
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For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
screamworks said:
SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
Gutana said:
Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
screamworks said:
CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
Gutana said:
Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
screamworks said:
Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
Gutana said:
Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
screamworks said:
You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
Gutana said:
Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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I only just the message 12 hours ago, if that helps?
Usually, your best bet is to go with the latest build, which you can get here. If it's stability you're looking for, go with the stable build, instead of nightlies.
Personally, out of all ROMs I've tried, I could only ever stand MIUI and CyanogenMod - but even then, MIUI started to annoy me with little things here and there. I think I'll be sticking with CyanogenMod for awhile. So, I'm not really the best authority on that. Just try some different ones, and see what appeals to you the most

Boot Manager Question from a Noob

With all the new/updates to ROMS coming out daily, was thinking about trying a Boot Manager. Are there risks is using an app like that?
My assumption is that it allows users to switch roms w/o have to flash everytime. Please correct if that's wrong.
Thoughts on using a boot manager?
Two things. One make sure you do the backup boot partition every time you change the original phone ROM. Also always keep a nandroid of the original ROM on hand in case you lose access to anything but recovery and fastboot because of a bad flash. In that case you would just restore the boot partition and everything would be peachy keen. Also phone ROM refers to the the ROM you flashed in recovery rather than boot manager.
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I ran Boot Manager briefly with each of Nils' ROMs (his Sense 3.6 and his early Sense 4.0). The previous poster is completely accurate with the warnings listed. One other point, if you rely extensively upon Exchange, every time you switch ROMs you'll need to competely resync all your Exchange data from scratch. That's why I ultimately just picked one ROM and stick with it.
I bought the app when it came out but never used it. I thought I would give it a try too. Now that I am s-off, is the install procedure pretty much the same? For example:
Phone rom I have conromv6
rom1 I have ViperRez.
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I bought the app when it came out but never used it. I thought I would give it a try too. Now that I am s-off, is the install procedure pretty much the same? For example:
Phone rom I have conromv6
rom1 I have ViperRez.
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The key thing to remember is that the install is different if you are going to use a ROM that installs via AROMA. If the "primary ROM" (the one BM calls your "PhoneROM"), you can install via Aroma, then download and install BM, and set up the ROM as your PhoneROM.
If it's in any other slot than slot0 (PhoneROM), then:
1. Do a Nandroid of your PhoneROM with BM installed and your PhoneROM properly installed.
2. Wipe and flash your Slot1 ROM via Aroma, download and install BUT DO NOT SETUP BM. Nandroid that ROM.
3. Wipe, restore the Nandroid of your PhoneROM, go into BM and install the NANDROID of your Slot1 ROM.
In other words, trying to install a ROM in BM within another ROM via Aroma will not work.

[GUIDE][ROM FLASHING][WALK THRU] Easy to do! All Questions Welcome!

This will help anyone who keeps having flashing issues.
More detailed instructions in my GUIDE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
THIS IS ONE QUICK/SIMPLE ERROR FREE ROM FLASHING PROCEDURE
This should eliminate a few posts saying, stuck in download mode, stuck at logo. just vibrates and them MANY other issues that somehow, everyone seems to find.
Here is my quick rom flashing process I use ALWAYS (yes always)
THINGS YOU NEED ON extSDCARD
1. Extra kernels (2 or 3 you know works for your device)
2. Optional: 2 recoveries that can be flashed (I use CWM & TWRP)
3. Optional: apps.zip (a zip created from Titantium BU, containing Root Explorer, TU Backup, Quickpic, ES File Explorer and Terminal Emulator)
Flashing the rom: TOUCHWIZ/AOSP ROMS
1. Backup current rom (to the extsdcard)
2. Complete wipe, (I do complete, some people do not) Complete = No Issues [FACTORY RESET + CLEAR CACHE + CLEAR DALVIK CACHE + CLEAR DATA]
3. Flash the rom
4. Flash the kernel (your device kernel) (I know some roms have their own kernel) this is where your problems start.
AGAIN: FLASH YOUR KERNEL, you KNOW it works. 1 more time FLASH YOUR KERNEL. (you can experiment with other kernels after you boot)
AOSP ROMS - require you to flash gapps before you boot. [This is not required for TouchWiz roms]
5. Boot the rom.
FINISHED!!!! SUCCESS!!!
Total time to flash a rom:
7-10min
Errors - NONE
This goes for every rom in my guide.
TIPS:
This flash procedure is for Touchwiz Roms, if you are flashing AOSP roms, you must flash the gapps package associated with the rom you are flashing.
**** SGH-I337M Users: Often requires flashing a different kernel than the one included in most ATT ROMS. Any GT-i9505 kernel will work and Adam kernel and Faux kernel are both confirmed working for us Canadian users.
Note: Flash KERNEL directly after ROM then reboot device.
[Special thanks to blyndfyre for this helpful tip].
The extra recovery I flash if a rom does not like the recovery I am using.
Yes, you can flash recoveries back and forth.
Apps.zip I flash after the rom is up & running. This I use to get the rom setup (like root explorer and others needed)
I am in no way responsible for anything that may do damage to any device - Use these tips at your own risk - period!
If you found this useful in any way, please hit the THANKS button for my effort.
RESERVED
TheAxman said:
Any questions? Anyone.
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I've been running into a lot of issues when trying to flash different ROMs. For instance, right now I'm on CleanROM 1.6 - I just tried to install PureGv2.
Steps I took:
Have Goo and ROM Manager installed after clean install of CleanROM 1.6
Flash CWM from ROM Manager
Install Recovery Script from Goo
Reboot into recover from Goo
TWRP loads
Wipe data, cache, dalvik, etc
Install PureGv2
I forget the error off the top of my head but it doesn't install
In a nutshell I'm asking what am I doing wrong? Do I need to flash another kernel?
Flash your verizon kernel. Correct. I know it is a vzn rom, but do it anyway.
TheAxman said:
Flash your verizon kernel. Correct. I know it is a vzn rom, but do it anyway.
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Was looking through Tomsgt's Youtube channel and stumbled across a video of his that showed his "About Phone". Everything was identical to mine, so I'm still a little lost as to why I can flash certain ROMs but not others. Sac/Gru's ROM soft bricked my phone, Hyperdrive5.7 didn't install, CleanROM does. It's just funky...maybe I'll just Odin back to stock, flash the MDK and start fresh.
Could the downloads be a problem? I downloaded 2 of the ROMs from work today on a 50meg pipe and they didn't work.
Do you download the ROMs to your phone or to your computer and then move them to your SD card?
If you download to your phone, do you move them to the SD card or leave them in the download folder on the internal storage?
If you do the latter, do you use a micro SD adapter or plug the phone in and move them that way?
harrytery said:
Was looking through Tomsgt's Youtube channel and stumbled across a video of his that showed his "About Phone". Everything was identical to mine, so I'm still a little lost as to why I can flash certain ROMs but not others. Sac/Gru's ROM soft bricked my phone, Hyperdrive5.7 didn't install, CleanROM does. It's just funky...maybe I'll just Odin back to stock, flash the MDK and start fresh.
Could the downloads be a problem? I downloaded 2 of the ROMs from work today on a 50meg pipe and they didn't work.
Do you download the ROMs to your phone or to your computer and then move them to your SD card?
If you download to your phone, do you move them to the SD card or leave them in the download folder on the internal storage?
If you do the latter, do you use a micro SD adapter or plug the phone in and move them that way?
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Download to the computer,then copy to the phones extsdcard, should be ok, make sure you do a md5 check on the files to make sure they are the correct size.
TheAxman said:
Download to the computer,then copy to the phones extsdcard, should be ok, make sure you do a md5 check on the files to make sure they are the correct size.
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Alright sounds good. Flashing back to stock later today then re-rooting
thanks for the help
Remember always do a BACKUP before you do anything.
First off, big thanks for this thread.
Now I'm running Cleanrom 1.5. If I wanted to install a new rom can someone please explain exactly what I do to go about it? As jargon free as possible would be awesome.
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I certainly scared the carp outta me the other night. I'm using the Carbon ROM and while I do like it, I miss a couple of the S4s features. I picked what looked like a good modified stock ROM and proceeded to flash it.
I'm using Goo and TWRP for the job. I checked of all 3 boxes for clearing cache, davik and factory reset.
Then I chose the file and started it.
The first result, it acted like if was doing everything but nothing changed. Phone still worked fine.
On the next try, I waited for TWERP to start and I reselected the ROM I wanted and flashed it.
When it booted up, I was very happy to see the original screens come up. Then it stopped on the one with the Verizon check mark. The blue LED slowly pulsing and nothing else for about 30 min. I removed battery to try and start over. Same thing again.
Time to goto my backup and restore my phone back to Carbon.
IT FAILED.
Now my phone is stuck in a weird looking boot up loop. After a few tries I was able to get into recovery
mode. TWRP started loading, froze and crashed! Even though I am a total noob at this, I still did not panic.
I'd restart my phone by removing the battery, going into recovery mode and then wildly press every button on my phone hoping to break the loop. It worked! I chose a different save and tried it all over again. FAIL.
ON the next I wiped every bit of old data off. Chose Factory restore crossed my fiingers....it work! My phone is fine now.
Thanks to that ordeal and this thread I think I know what I did wrong even though this never happened to me. before.
1) WIPE THE DATA
2)INSTALL A COMPATABLE KERNAL FIRST
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Vampyre111 said:
I certainly scared the carp outta me the other night. I'm using the Carbon ROM and while I do like it, I miss a couple of the S4s features. I picked what looked like a good modified stock ROM and proceeded to flash it.
I'm using Goo and TWRP for the job. I checked of all 3 boxes for clearing cache, davik and factory reset.
Then I chose the file and started it.
The first result, it acted like if was doing everything but nothing changed. Phone still worked fine.
On the next try, I waited for TWERP to start and I reselected the ROM I wanted and flashed it.
When it booted up, I was very happy to see the original screens come up. Then it stopped on the one with the Verizon check mark. The blue LED slowly pulsing and nothing else for about 30 min. I removed battery to try and start over. Same thing again.
Time to goto my backup and restore my phone back to Carbon.
IT FAILED.
Now my phone is stuck in a weird looking boot up loop. After a few tries I was able to get into recovery
mode. TWRP started loading, froze and crashed! Even though I am a total noob at this, I still did not panic.
I'd restart my phone by removing the battery, going into recovery mode and then wildly press every button on my phone hoping to break the loop. It worked! I chose a different save and tried it all over again. FAIL.
ON the next I wiped every bit of old data off. Chose Factory restore crossed my fiingers....it work! My phone is fine now.
Thanks to that ordeal and this thread I think I know what I did wrong even though this never happened to me. before.
1) WIPE THE DATA
2)INSTALL A COMPATABLE KERNAL FIRST
V^^^^V
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I can not stress enough HOW IMPORTANT THE KERNEL IS!
Hmm so everyone is a now a Oriental Flash Master from the far East now huh?
What recovery is everyone using?
[updated: 07-12-2013]
Flashing Questions
So, if you just need to add something, like different Kernerl, do you have to wipe and start from scratch?
Should you.
If so, and you backup apps and data in Titanium, then what you do a full wipe, flash entire rom, and reinstall the apps and data associated therewith?
Last, I have asked this but cannot seem to get an answer.
Installed Hyperdrive 7 (also had 5.7 and 6). Rom is super smooth and fast, working like a charm. but I want Verizon Visual Voice Mail.
I tried to copy the apk file to the devices system/app directory but get permission denied message....tried to install, and get failed message....
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So, if you just need to add something, like different Kernerl, do you have to wipe and start from scratch?
Should you.
If so, and you backup apps and data in Titanium, then what you do a full wipe, flash entire rom, and reinstall the apps and data associated therewith?
Last, I have asked this but cannot seem to get an answer.
Installed Hyperdrive 7 (also had 5.7 and 6). Rom is super smooth and fast, working like a charm. but I want Verizon Visual Voice Mail.
I tried to copy the apk file to the devices system/app directory but get permission denied message....tried to install, and get failed message....
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did you set the permissions for the app? That should work actually. Look at one of the apps in that directory, and set the permissions the same for the voice app. Reboot and see what happens.
Good luck.
May want to post this question also in my guide thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
Sorry if this is dumb, but how do I know what kernels for sure work with my device and how do I get them to my external sd card? I suppose the one that is currently on my device(how to get that to sd?), but what others?
Thanks.
Painterface said:
Sorry if this is dumb, but how do I know what kernels for sure work with my device and how do I get them to my external sd card? I suppose the one that is currently on my device(how to get that to sd?), but what others?
Thanks.
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Please bring the question over to my thread up above. It shows also what kernels to use. We will help there.
Another noob question: so you still advise flashing a kernel even if the ROM creator says that the ROM comes with the appropriate kernel and that no extra flashing is required? I've got the Verizon Galaxy S4 variant and specifically am thinking of Dubbsy's Google Play Edition ROM.
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theoneknownasbob said:
Another noob question: so you still advise flashing a kernel even if the ROM creator says that the ROM comes with the appropriate kernel and that no extra flashing is required? I've got the Verizon Galaxy S4 variant and specifically am thinking of Dubbsy's Google Play Edition ROM.
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You would flash the rom, and after, flash your verizon kernel, simple as that.

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