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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
I can't figure it out, but in the last two-three days, I've had considerable slowdown on all apps and ADW menus and homescreens. Is there an easy way to figure out what is using all the resources and remove it? I have gone over everything that I have installed in the last few days and deleted most of them, but I still have the lag and I can't figure this out. From the time I rooted and updated to 026, the phone has been great and pretty fast and the batt life has been pretty good as well, but now all of that has changed, so something is killing my phone slowly. Any ideas/help/similar stories??
Thanks for your help guys..
"spare parts" gives you various stats under battery usage, you could check what apps etc have been using up CPU time - could give you a clue?
Also bug reporter will let you email the log files to yourself for inspection.
Thanks for the quick response... I totally forgot about spare parts. It was helpful and the problem has been resolved. Back to normal and fast again...
Thanks for the help...
I find that if I leave my phone on too long without restarting then it tends to start lagging up a lot. I usually have to restart every 3-4 days.
agreed.. I find the same issue-- a required restart every few days or the phone begins to lag quite a bit. Not sure of the cause though.
Jikenda said:
Thanks for the quick response... I totally forgot about spare parts. It was helpful and the problem has been resolved. Back to normal and fast again...
Thanks for the help...
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Could you tell what the problem was and how you managed to isolate it? Thanks
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The problem seemed to be with fancy widgets, so I figured the update didn't install right, so I uninstalled it, re-installed it and rebooted the phone and everything is a-ok..
But, I did use spare parts to isolate the usage stats..
where is everyone getting fancy widgets? cuz i'm not seeing it on the market
edit: kk so i found a download for it on google. next question. you said your's recently updated.... to what version? i just got 1.2.4..
I'm sure 1.3.0 was the last version they made before they stopped..
here ya go!!
http://db.tt/XtRs4j
Sent from my rooted 026 X10i using swype via XDA!!
The laggy problem after long time not reboot which your guys mention was caused by applications running, i think. Did you try Task killer? If not, after a day, there are many running program in the cache and your fone would soom run out of memory.
I do use advanced task killer pro and some cache cleaner as well, but even so, I still have to reboot every few days or the slowdown problem re-emerges..
I am keeping my eyes on the usage stats in case I have some rogue program that just eats memory too often.
Hi
Been reading around but I'm still not sure on a few things.
I just got this phone and I'm trying to make the most of it by removing services that i don't use so i can have a longer battery life.
Whenever i go to Settings > Applications > Running Services
i always notice apps in there that i'm not even using.. and when i try force close they dont stay closed, they keep reopening.
Social Hub (1process and 1 service)
what is this? i don't use Samsungs "Social Hub"
Email
why does this run? why does it run automatically after i close it? i don't use the Email App, i prefer the Gmail app.
Digital Clock
I dont use any clock widgets, the only clock on my SII is the normal clock at the top and the one used in the lock screen?
Any help would be appreciated, if possible i would like to keep the phone unrooted... or am i gonna have to root afterall?
cheers, highly appreciated.
Hey,
Sorry to tell you but as far as I know you need to root if you want to freeze/uninstall unwanted Samsung bloatware.
You can use Titanium Backup Pro for this.
hmm, do these services eat battery much? because i don't really want to root the device. They can sit there in the background aslong as it's not a major difference to battery :\
Rekuja said:
hmm, do these services eat battery much? because i don't really want to root the device. They can sit there in the background aslong as it's not a major difference to battery :\
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I'm afraid so,but you have to decide for yourself if battery life is good enough
for you.
I for example use Cognition ROM without all the Samsung apps and have pretty good battery life 3% usage during night with wifi on.
did u use email? or did you use only gmail?
i mean is email setuped?
Hi
I have never opened the Email ap, and i dont use any Social Hub stuff yet the services keep opening...
i use Gmail only, email app is not setup.
the best thing to prove to yourself that these apps are not doing anything is to install system panel the paid version which has monitoring function that tracks all apps that touch the CPU. enable monitoring and check your list, these apps should not show up at all. this is how you can see what is using resources or not.
Hey cheers for that, really appreciate it.
I have read that new batteries don't really last long but after the first 4-5 charges they last a little longer?
My S II can go a full day with moderate use and still have 10-15% battery left before i go back to sleep, so i guess I'm doing ok?
gone are the days when phones would last a week or two lol.
yes all my new phones seemed to require the battery to be broken in and would take a full week before it finally lasted long. or at least stopped draining so incredibly quick. seems to be about a week is the sweet spot before it improves.
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
MA14NEY said:
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
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Make your background is always black based, as amolded display doent emit black color... so your background, message , mail the most you use make it in dark background. This will help you save your battery.
download and try different battery saver packages are available in the android market. download and try them for free and you can then stick to the one best suits for you.
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
MA14NEY said:
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
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It's not about the Standby Time, never was. Just check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
MA14NEY said:
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
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Nah
ithehappy said:
check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
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My phone was in my pocket doing nothing. I was working and used the display to check the time only, about 4 or 5 times.
10 hours is a pitiful amount of time for a phone to last on standby.
Well, do the step/s I said above, do a Hard Reset before and see how you are going.
I'll try it out and get back to you amigo.
ithehappy said:
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
Also to the OP, check this thread, this has greatly increased my battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144099
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
jonny68 said:
I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
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A friend of mine said the same to me. But I really don't understand why I shall not use ATK when it is giving me a great result? I tried almost everything before, freezing this and that, uninstalling some apps and etc etc..but the Awake bar was constantly getting on at some intervals, but after ATK the story is completely changed. So I'd recommend it highly
ithehappy said:
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
veyka said:
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
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I have the same problem, but my display is taking to much %, but every thing is on low? brightness is very low can some one tell me how to set it down ?? Thank you
Greetzz
Agamennon said:
Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
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Alright, I am disabling the ATK for the moment and installed and set up Juice Defender Ultimate on Customized profile for overnight. I will come back and post how did I find it, over ATK or under.
Regards.
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You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
Also check out the app safe to remove in my sig and consider freeing the samsung bloatware
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veyka said:
You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
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Thanks for the diagnosis. I've went ahead and rooted (about time anyway) to the VillianRom and i'm going to calibrate the battery.
Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
MA14NEY said:
Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
ithehappy said:
You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
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The problem with ATK is that is totally screws with 2.3's task management system, also it will be waking the phone up all the time, the longer the phone can be asleep the better.
MA14NEY said:
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
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Goodo! Im glad to hear its working for you.
with VR2.0 the less time your screen is on the longer you will get, some people have gotten 4-5 day battery life with almost no screen time.
Hey Guys I am troubleshooting a battery life issue for my boss' wife. Her brand new S4 is draining battery way too fast overnight if not plugged into the charger.
When I pull up her Battery Usage at the top every time is Android OS with a whopping 40-45% of usage.
I have disabled Caller ID, double checked she only have one account synced on her phone and its not happening every 15 minutes or anything. I set her screen brightness to auto (though I know this wouldn't show up as Android OS usage). She is using stock firmware from Verizon and has not really installed much short of a couple games.
What do you think could be causing Android OS to be sucking up so much juice? My Note 2 only shows Android OS as using 10% over 1 1/2 days of usage
Turn off all location reporting stuff under maps, and also download the play store v4.1.10 apk if you are still on 4.1.6. Play store v 4.1.6 has a known battery drain issue and that is why there is a newer one out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
Also removing the ongoing wifi thing in teh notification pull down will help as well since it scans for wireless networks like every 4 or 5 seconds. I'm pretty sure she would have to be rooted to be able to flash the MOD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297213
Eric214 said:
Turn off all location reporting stuff under maps, and also download the play store v4.1.10 apk if you are still on 4.1.6. Play store v 4.1.6 has a known battery drain issue and that is why there is a newer one out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
Also removing the ongoing wifi thing in teh notification pull down will help as well since it scans for wireless networks like every 4 or 5 seconds. I'm pretty sure she would have to be rooted to be able to flash the MOD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297213
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OK installed Play Store update and rebooting now. She is not rooted, unlocked, nor does she have a custom ROM installed so I'd have to root it if I wanted to add in that mod. This seems like something that should be fixable without a root tho, right?
Thank you for your help btw
Cyclin said:
OK installed Play Store update and rebooting now. She is not rooted, unlocked, nor does she have a custom ROM installed so I'd have to root it if I wanted to add in that mod. This seems like something that should be fixable without a root tho, right?
Thank you for your help btw
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Root is required to disable the notification.
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Root is required to disable the notification.
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Got it. Ok well I did the Play Store update and the location services. I also installed 2x Battery Saver to shut down her wifi when in sleep mode. I'll know if that took care of it tomorrow morning when she brings it in again.
Thanks again for the responses guys. I just know that out of the box this thing shouldn't be draining so fast when its idling!
Its a friggin' Verizon thing. Again they have to be a pain in the a$$ and feel they need to do something to feel like they are better then other carriers by adding and subtracting stuff. The ongoing wifi notification and the removing of the wifi and a couple other toggles in the notification toggles was asinine.
Plus, the battery drain issue with the play store has nothing to do with the phone but a bug from google that was fixed with an update.
Eric214 said:
Turn off all location reporting stuff under maps, and also download the play store v4.1.10 apk if you are still on 4.1.6. Play store v 4.1.6 has a known battery drain issue and that is why there is a newer one out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
Also removing the ongoing wifi thing in teh notification pull down will help as well since it scans for wireless networks like every 4 or 5 seconds. I'm pretty sure she would have to be rooted to be able to flash the MOD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297213
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Oh. My. God. You are my savior!
Billions of threads were read by me, dozens of battery software were installed by me to analyze battery drain but there were no result unitl I found this thread and you message. A had 70-80% "Android OS" of battery usage and that was because of god damn Play Store 4.1.6 installed on my GT-i9500 and it didn't update for some reason (any suggestions why?). After I've downloaded new version from androidpolice, everything seems to become perfect.
Thank you very much for your message, dude. I owe you.
MaddKorben said:
Oh. My. God. You are my savior!
Billions of threads were read by me, dozens of battery software were installed by me to analyze battery drain but there were no result unitl I found this thread and you message. A had 70-80% "Android OS" of battery usage and that was because of god damn Play Store 4.1.6 installed on my GT-i9500 and it didn't update for some reason (any suggestions why?). After I've downloaded new version from androidpolice, everything seems to become perfect.
Thank you very much for your message, dude. I owe you.
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No problem... glad I could help. The reason it didn't update is because Google never pushed it out. They knew there was an issue and put a fix out pretty fast but you had to download it and install manually. I don't know why.