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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
Just wait a little while for Ice Cream Sandwich, which will be much better than Honeycomb.
It's not that it's impossible to. It's that it's a pain, it tends to be broken, and with ICS around the corner, there is no reason to waste the effort.
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
Dont worry thr devs who are wotking on cm7 are nit tryung to get one over on u by using gingerbread
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BrianDigital said:
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
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This. The Honeycomb roms for the Nook and other tablets are hacked together from the SDK, so they're not optimized for the device they're running on. Since there's no source, issues cant be (comparably) easily fixed. And with that in mind, you need a good working Android base which doesnt yet exist for the touchpad since CM is (rightfully) withholding source due to its alpha status.
Even if we did have CM source, the ICS source release is just around the corner. There's no point in doing it since the work wouldnt translate and just be wasted.
Wait for the ICS source to drop if you want ICS.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
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All Honeycomb ports are hacks because Google has never released the full source for it.
The Touchpad _could_ run Honeycomb, but as the only development for it is CM7, which is gingerbread based currently, that's what you get.
If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
I think HD2 is able to boot Honeycomb too, but it never got stable.
http://www.ixplora.com/wp-content/2011/03/hd2-honeycomb-595x306.jpg
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
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Really? Seems odd given that it's closed-source, but fair enough
The more you know!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
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Yeah I think he was pointing out the fact that if you want it go make it. I have to say though seriously? Just in the last week did we go from pretty much no Android to pretty dang functional gingerbread... And already asking why don't we/why doesn't someone port honeycomb... Really? Seems a little unappreciative but maybe that's just me...
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Got a link that the next version will be CM9?
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I saw on the Android BBQ video with the Cyanogen team mentioned CM9 would be next because of going to ICS next. Don't have a link but is on xda tv somewhere
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First, the nook and g-tablet ARE Android devices to being with.
Second, it took some time to get the above devices to "run" Honeycomb.
Third, neither is completely functional with Honeycomb.
Lastly, if you really really want Android your best is probably to get an Android device. I also have a g-tablet and with custom ROM that made it mostly functional, it was never 100% and issue free. I was never completely satisfied until I got an real Android device (Asus Transformer).
Being able to dual boot the Touchpad with a functional Android OS would be nice. But personally I got it to try out WebOS and have something different.
I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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really? another thread about this?
to answer this so it can be locked or merged:
1. let's stop speculating about an OS which is at least 7 months if not a year out (for ARM) techincally windows will be able to run, but getting it to run is going to depend on a lot of things we don't have details about.
2. ubuntu should be portable, it's going to depend on the bootloader to a fair degree as to how easy it is to do.
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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yungballla6 said:
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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To be fair, you are like the 10th person to ask this question about a separate OS then the one it comes with. The answers is no one knows. Just like no one knows if Win8 will be worth a damn.
Windows 8... maybe, but there's an awful lot of unknowns there.
I'd love to have the Prime dual-boot with a Linux distro though, and that seems quite feasible (though the bootloader is an unknown; I have faith in XDA though!). That really would make it into a full netbook.
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Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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in the time it took to open this thread you could have found that it has already been covered.
in this day of instant information, it just irks me when people don't take the time to find what's already there.
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I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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Idk about win8 (like others have said there's a thread for that) but as for linux, many devices have been able to boot Ubuntu and bt5 on top with root using chroot and androidvnc. I'm sure it will work considering I've run both on my g2x. There's a thread here on xda for those but currently at work and don't have efficient access to that link. Think its in the nexus s forums?
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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If your a hacker or linux based nerd, then I get Ubuntu. power is king in code crunching. But Windows? Anyone needing windows on the move is 90% working. I dont think you need that much power for that.
If i could boot a windows 8 install off an SD Card in the dock i would be alllllllllllll about that.
i want to put the blackberry playbook OS on it, but emulated inside ICS, and then i can run android apps, emulated through the playbook OS, which is emulated through android. possibly while running an snes emulator.
it's going to be so meta, and you all will be so jealous. :|
There are many threads about Windows 8. The Prime has the Tegra 3 chip which will be supported in Windows 8 and most likely several Linux flavors. We'll see. No let's stop discussing this for the next couple months.
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
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best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
Will you be able to run MS excel with VB editing and running it if/when prime gets Win 8?
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
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same here.
At the moment the solution that worked for original Transformer and phones was ok but I would love to actually boot it off a usb drive or SDcard and not have to run the GUI over VNC.
Although Backtrack devs have said that the ARM image released is only for testing and they wont be supporting it. Hopefully they start to fully support it as tablets become more powerful.
Hey does android run on this thing?
/sarcasm
Windows 8 Thread from NOVEMBER: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283
What? Microsoft missed their mark here. I don't see them making a dent on the tablet market that it's rival Google has a hold of.
Gday guys,
I have a question regarding the short term future of the Nook Tablet. Now, Celtic Solutions have finished making CM7 ROM, I am unsure about what happens next.
I have got the latest CM7 Rom installed on my Tablet when it was released in Early April, if i wanted a more recent update version of CM7, what must i do.
I'm just a bit unclear about what is meant to happen next? Apart from CM9.
Is it possible that someone can shead some light on this topic for me.
Cheers Steve
CM7 is complete enough that it can be used quite well as a daily driver. It was never really meant to be an end all be all for the Nook tablet; more of an interim rom until CM9 was complete/stable. A new developer is being brought in for CM9 so stay tuned for development.
I don't really know if there is being much work done on CM7 but like I said, its fairly complete as is. CM9 is as well, with the exception of the proper kernel and subsequently hardware acceleration (netflix, higher end games).
Ah I see, well I can't wait for the full release of cm9 then. I've seen them talking about the cm7.2, does that relate to the 8GB tablet.
I know I'm not meant to ask this but... Have they put a rough ETA on when cm9 will be released? Loads of guys donated to buy some developers a nook tablet, do we can't be far off. What do ya think?
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There was a misunderstanding about some gpl issues beetween the NT build config and proper source git sync.
All got clear after original_ganjaman spoke with CelticWebSolutions.
So CelticWebSolutions when find some time may update CM7.
Theres never an ETA.
I'm so happy with CM7 I'm not even looking anymore
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Ah I see, well I can't wait for the full release of cm9 then. I've seen them talking about the cm7.2, does that relate to the 8GB tablet.
I know I'm not meant to ask this but... Have they put a rough ETA on when cm9 will be released? Loads of guys donated to buy some developers a nook tablet, do we can't be far off. What do ya think?
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Can't you just play with some themes for CM7 and make it look like ICS?
There is no such thing as ETA on things like these.
(Off topic- I understand why captcha is used, heck I use it on my own websites, but this one in particular is really annoying).
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Can't you just play with some themes for CM7 and make it look like ICS?
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did you do look over this post ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512373
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(Off topic- I understand why captcha is used, heck I use it on my own websites, but this one in particular is really annoying).
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agreed and it goes away after ten ?
steveflack said:
Ah I see, well I can't wait for the full release of cm9 then. I've seen them talking about the cm7.2, does that relate to the 8GB tablet.
I know I'm not meant to ask this but... Have they put a rough ETA on when cm9 will be released? Loads of guys donated to buy some developers a nook tablet, do we can't be far off. What do ya think?
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Is there something wrong with the 7.2 build you have now? CyanogenMod's 7.2 branch is the latest release, their fixes are mostly bugfixes related to specific devices now, since they've moved most of their development to the CM9 devices.
As said previously, there is no ETA for cm9. When they get the kernel working, when they finish their respective tweaks, it'll be done. If you have any programming knowledge, they're actively looking for new members to help with the work though!
Remember when this came out on fire sale and everyone was so pumped up to root the touchpad and get Cm 9 running? What's happened, it seems like it's slow down so much! I guess Cm 9 was mostly completed no thanks to HP, and they did a great job. what about jelly bean? We got a preview about a month ago and that's pretty much it. I know Oats have done a few things here and there, but compared to what it used to be, it just seems like this tablet is dying in terms of new development. Is that just the way the cookie crumbles? Should I sell my touchpad and get something newer? Like I said, cm 9 works great I'm just a little disappointed that people moved on so quickly, it's still has great specs for what it is, and for what most of us paid for it. In all honesty, I get scared to pay a donation to devs now, because I feel like they use the money to buy the next great thing and move on, when that is not the intention of the donation. The intent is to thank them for developing and improving roms, not to buy another tablet or phone and move on. Does anyone else feel this way, are my thoughts misguided?
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Yes, things do seem a little slow around here. I kind of just figured because the weather is nice outside that people are just not on XDA as much right now.
I imagine it would be hard to think about Developing when the sun is shining outside.
I think the intention of donations is to thank them for this ROM, today, not to guilt them into developing a future ROM. But by the way, I think CM10 is still being actively developed. There are links to the development updates at BBQLog in the CM10 thread.
I think the nexus 7 happened.
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I think the nexus 7 happened.
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^This
They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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Agreed. CM10 has taken focus and CM9 is not being as actively worked on because of it.
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Agreed. CM10 has taken focus and CM9 is not being as actively worked on because of it.
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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because it was made clear they would be weeklies instead of nightlife and if there was no significant change directly related to the touchpad there would be no weeklies
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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CM-10 for the touchpad is not ready for a nightly yet because many things still do not work (sound, video, mic etc). Under the TouchPad Development forum there is some info on a CM-10 build by Light n Tasty. I am a "junior", so no link posting for me, but the title is:
[ROM] OaT's Light n Tasty: CM9 (07/29), CM10 (08/19)
Once I downloaded the ROM I couldn't flash it in TWRP until I renamed the .zip to match the CM naming convention. If I remember correctly I named it to:
cm-10-20120819-unoffical.zip
I'm just as anxious to get JB going on my TP and Droid3, both of which are progressing very slowly. I have to keep reminding myself that it was indeed months before things were up and stable on either of those devices when ICS came. I am hoping for the best and good things will come to those who wait. Not to put pressure on anyone, but I suspect great things will happen in a couple weeks or so.
Along the lines of the Nexus 7, I think that the general price point for Android tablets (7" and 10") has dropped to the point where the TouchPad isn't the crazy deal that it was, even at $200-250 resale prices. Add to that the fact that TouchPad ICS is basically rock solid aside from the camera driver and there's just not a need for the level of activity we saw in the past when GB and then ICS were first being brought to the device. JB is obviously still a work-in-progress, but it's not the significant leap that ICS was relative to GB where it was an actual tablet-oriented OS instead of a handset-oriented OS running on tablet hardware.
Anyway, I'm not knocking it at all because the TP is a fantastic device with ICS installed, but it makes sense to me that it would slow down as the work has become increasingly more complete and newer, higher-end hardware has reached a competitive price point.
ima disagree yet again. i think dropping interest in a device because something new and shiny comes along makes for a bad development community. and these forums are about keeping devices alive as manufacturers and carriers are so quickly dismissive with their out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new money making attitudes. i dont think we should pose a defeatist withdrawl, defending lack of development by saying "welp, this ones good enough, and the next versions not that big a leap anyways". its a real shame dalingrin isnt as interested in this device any more, and that development seems dead. hopefully there will be a regroup and a few brave men with the skills and talent can kick start it up again. ill be looking forward to the day that this device, which still has a very large market share, gets the interest it deserves.
To be fair the craze wasn't that much on development when the fire sale happened. We only had dalingrin working on it. I'm still surprised jelly bean hasn't moved forward on the touchpad. I thought it was a small jump
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Im sure jcsullis is still working on the touchpad but thats it. From the start we just had a few developers working on the touchpad and those few had more problems "fighting" each other, instead of working together. For example the classicnerds, instead of group up with dalingrin and co. and try to improve what already was there (cyanogenmod), they just created something new with the same bugs -> over-all-progress = 0%.
Very interesting discussions. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion. Jack, I hope someone steps up as well. This still has respectable specs for the $$.
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HP Touchpad was my first tablet device. With CyanogenMod, it was my first Andriod device. If developement stopped today, I still have the life that CM Team Touchpad and other Touchpad Developers breathed into the zombie tablet I purchased from the firesale.
I have a viable ICS tablet that performs 98% of what I need/want. Compare that to webOS and it's dwindling offerings of apps. I find I boot to webOS only for Video Skype.
For the whole Andriod Experiment on my tablet, I can only thank those tireless efforts the Devs shared with the community.
I for one am thankful for what I've reveiced for free. I look forward to a tasty Jelly Bean snack, sometime in the future.
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HP Touchpad was my first tablet device. With CyanogenMod, it was my first Andriod device. If developement stopped today, I still have the life that CM Team Touchpad and other Touchpad Developers breathed into the zombie tablet I purchased from the firesale.
I have a viable ICS tablet that performs 98% of what I need/want. Compare that to webOS and it's dwindling offerings of apps. I find I boot to webOS only for Video Skype.
For the whole Andriod Experiment on my tablet, I can only thank those tireless efforts the Devs shared with the community.
I for one am thankful for what I've reveiced for free. I look forward to a tasty Jelly Bean snack, sometime in the future.
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Agree 100%. Love running CM9 on my TP. If JB comes to it, great. If not, no complaints here.
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They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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Somebody is working hard on cracking the camera here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16347-dev-ics-camera-hd-video-hw-acceleration-fix/page__st__160
After having a good look around I agree there is a huge gap in development here... with AOKP no longer supporting us and now OaT gone too that has left us with just the CM9 weeklies...
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well, they are supposed to be nightlies. but it doesnt get built every night. not even every week at this point. im thinking it may have official support dropped soon.
I saw that HP's webOS is open source now. Do you think there is a developer who could port this to our devices?
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I'm actually interested in this too. I'm not a dev myself. If I was, I would be doing this myself.
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Interested and this will be the only thing I will be willing to help to develop for the Atrix ;p
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I saw that HP's webOS is open source now. Do you think there is a developer who could port this to our devices?
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WebOS has been Open Source for a while now, sadly, not many developers seemed to jump on the idea of adapting it for use on Android phones/tablets. As cool as it would be to see WebOS/Android dualboots on phones and tablets (other than the HP Touchpad that is) I don't see it happening in the near future.
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WebOS has been Open Source for a while now, sadly, not many developers seemed to jump on the idea of adapting it for use on Android phones/tablets. As cool as it would be to see WebOS/Android dualboots on phones and tablets (other than the HP Touchpad that is) I don't see it happening in the near future.
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No, the Community Edition of WebOS has been, but that was only some components and it was geared toward the HP Touchpad's hardware. Open WebOS is what was needed before serious porting could begin.
I'd LOVE to see this, even if it doesn't become a daily driver. Before I bought the Atrix, I thought my first smartphone would end up being the canceled Pre 3 so I'd be very interested in seeing what could have been.