Hi All
Please let me explain in detail:
1. I had original ICS and flashed CF-Root with ODIN
2. Flashed new JB-Polland with ODIN
3. Lost root access and CF apps
4. Re-flashed CF-Root, CF apps and root access granted
5. Opening CWM i get the following msg: "This version of CWM should be used with CF-CWM v1.1" Now from reading other posts, i think this error is due to CF-Root not supporting JB.
Therefore what are my options?
1. Can I flash a new root over CF-Root, that supports JB.
2. Do I do the triangle away and try to clear CF-Root
3. Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance guys.
Whenever I'm flashing a ROM, I flash over the previous one.
I installed CF-Root, flashed MIUI, didn't like it so flashed CM10, didn't like it so flashed to stock again then reset my flash count to 0.
Or use it as is. Everyone who uses CF-Root with JB gets that message. You can still perform backups, updates and ZIP installs through CWM recovery.
Thanks Sleepycat, I didn't realise you could keep using it. Part of the message says some features have been disabled.
Running backup in recovery mode now and seems to be going sweet.
Thanks Guys
its just the app that's incompatible, not CWM itself.
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Depending on what you are flashing, what is on the phone will be "overwritten". For example if you flash a kernel you will replace just the kernel, if you are flashing a full rom, everything that the rom contains will overwrite its equivalent in the phone (which is why you needed to reflash the root).
If you want to ensure you can get back to original state you needed to have done a nandroid backup at the beginning from which to restore later.
Hope this helps
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Hey guys,
Im really freakin out right here. Feel like I messed up my entire recovery.
I was on a stock samsung firmware, then installed cf-root, was working like a charm. Switched back to the original kernel. Then I decided I wanted the Litening rom on my device.
I had problems installing it, for Odin did not work. Then I installed Rom Manager, and installed their recovery. That surely was a huge mistake.
Now I can't flash any kernel or rom (the phone itself boots fine though), it says e signature failed.
I can't flash back to my backup file made with the CWM app, after I put on CF/root. If I try to go back into the recovery mode using the CWM app, im getting the recovery menu from Rom Manager.
I can´t flash the kernel using Odin. It keeps hangin at setupconnection.
What should I do?
you should have read the CF-Root thread.
CWM Manager
Because of incompatibility with ROM Manager, I wrote and included "CWM Manager". This is a new app (as of March 30, 2011). You can find it under Applications -> CWM. It is much faster to use than manually booting into CWM and selecting these options.
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you should NOT use Rom manager, with the CF-Root kernel!
Start searching first people please.
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I have got a complete backup of my phone, made with CWM. Is there a way to get that one back in place. Or is there a way to flash back to stock using Odin?
Go to wwwDOTsamfirmwareDORcom/WEBPROTECT-i9100.htm They have a database of SII stock roms. You can flash the stock rom using ODIN in download mode (home+power+volume down, while the phone is off). Follow the instructions on the site. If you need help picking a ROM, just ask me. This site is safe. I've used it before when I screwed up my VillainROM installation.
you should also uninstall rom manager. that should be the first thing you do.
Managed to flash back to stock Many thanks!
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jje
thx guys
you helped me a lot
Hey everyone,
First of all, i apologize if any of what i'm asking here is stuff that has been covered before. I have been searching myself for answers for the last several days and have found plenty of good info, but i am new to android and i think i need to ask some question to help get a base level understanding of what i need to do. I am a bit nervous about bricking my phone so i maybe haven't been as adventurous trying to get everything running as god intended.
Firstly, i have used and understand Odin, using it to flash roms and such. I have rooted the phone and installed ROM Manager and clockworkmod 4.0.1.5 on the phone, but when i boot into recovery mode, it is still on the android recovery 3e and i cannot do the update.zip, I get signature verification failed. Now i KNOW this is cause of the android recovery 3e, and i have found this issue has been encountered plenty before, but my confusion is in some of the solutions i have found. Mainly the terminology and how the steps directly apply to the phone. For example, I found on another forum thread :
1- Copy the Zimage from your rooted kernel and paste it to SD card of your phone.
2- Flash the Stock kernel via Odin to get rid of Yellow triangle.
3- Flash the Zip file (Zimage) via CWM which you've already pasted in Step 1.
i don't really understand what the zimage is. Why do i need it, what IS it frankly? Where do i get it or a stock kernel for my phone. Does versioning matter much? i read that for the most part the kernels are almost identical to each other, and the fact all i really need is for the android recovery mode to be 2e or whatever it is (so it will not do the signature check on the update.zip file), that i don't really need to pay much attention to the actual kernel version.
What i really need i guess is for someone to break it down for me and either explain the steps or give me a detailed step by step on how to get clockworkmod recovery working so i can proceed with the cyanogen mod running on phone (not enjoying touchwiz at all).
Again, sorry if i am giving anyone spasms at my noobish-ness, but i have been searching for my answers for a day or two now and i haven't been able to find anything that really tells me what i need to know.
Phone : GT-I9100M
Android : 2.3.3
Kernal : 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKDD-CL
Build : GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Thanks
riccochet said:
Hey everyone,
clockworkmod 4.0.1.5 on the phone, but when i boot into recovery mode, it is still on the android recovery 3e
That means you have not installed it flash CWM and \Root from here .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Beware of following instructions from a separate rom to the one you are flashing .
1- Copy the Zimage from your rooted kernel and paste it to SD card of your phone.
2- Flash the Stock kernel via Odin to get rid of Yellow triangle.
3- Flash the Zip file (Zimage) via CWM which you've already pasted in Step 1.
i don't really understand what the zimage is.
ZImage is the kernel .
Why do i need it, what IS it frankly? Where do i get it or a stock kernel for my phone. Does versioning matter much? i read that for the most part the kernels are almost identical to each other, and the fact all i really need is for the android recovery mode to be 2e or whatever it is (so it will not do the signature check on the update.zip file), that i don't really need to pay much attention to the actual kernel version.
You are confusing yourself .
Flash correct CWM from above link .
Choose the custom rom and follow the instructions posted for that rom .
CyanogenMod as the man says
Warning : Not for new users, flash this build only if you know what you are doing !!!
#Followed by his install instructions ~~~
jje
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Thanks for the reply. I have been doing more reading and i think i am understanding the rooting process a bit better.
I looked at the link you posted (thanks for that, i saw the forum post for the i9000 but i never could find the i9100 post for some reason) and i DO have another question after reading through a good chunk of the posts on it.
There is no CF Root for my kernel, but the reply that was made to someone else with my kernel version was :
"Flash the Stock 2.3.4 ROM (XXKG5, XXKG6 or XXKG7) and root with CF-Root-XXKG6."
I understand that process and how it works but i thought you were only supposed to flash roms based on your firmware version? My KDD kernel version is running on 2.3.3
Will this cause any issues if i flash the stock 2.3.4 ROM?
Download cm7 zip for the newest nightly.
Copy it to internal sd card.
Flash any cf root kernel
Boot into recovery
Wipe data and cache, you will lose all your data on your phone, so backup sms (I recommend sms backup +), also you will lose App data so you might want to back that up first using something like titanium backup.
Wipe dalvik cache (under advanced)
Chose install zip from sd card
Select the cm7 zip
Reboot
If you get stuck at the boot screen go back into recovery and flash the zip again
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Thanks Veyka.
I think i'm ok with the CM7 install process. I am probably going to wait until i really feel like i understand the whole process from front to back before i start messing with that though.
I can't get to that point yet however since i haven't been able to get CWM recovery working yet. I have the Android Recovery 3e, which will not install from zip files that aren't digitally signed.
So i'm trying to get CF Root installed and working, however, as mentioned in my previous post there is no CF Root for my kernel. I would like it clarified if it is ok for me to flash to a 2.3.4 stock ROM (i'm running 2.3.3) and then use a CF root for a the new ROM.
I was under the impression that this was not a good idea.
If i should not be doing this, is there a recommended way to upgrade my firmware to 2.3.4 so i can use a newer CF Root?
Thanks
Pick a new stock rom, I would go for kg6, flash it via odin.
Then flash the kg6 CF root kernel via odin and you will have cwm recovery.
Don't put the pit into odin and don't tick repartition or update bootloader.
There is a good thread with all the info you need on flashing stock roms with odin and a list of all avaliable roms.
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Thanks for all the help. I was able to make sense of the process (which is actually quite simple, just needed to put it all together in my head to make sense) and get everything done.
Appreciate all the help!
veyka said:
Download cm7 zip for the newest nightly.
Copy it to internal sd card.
Flash any cf root kernel
Boot into recovery
Wipe data and cache, you will lose all your data on your phone, so backup sms (I recommend sms backup +), also you will lose App data so you might want to back that up first using something like titanium backup.
Wipe dalvik cache (under advanced)
Chose install zip from sd card
Select the cm7 zip
Reboot
If you get stuck at the boot screen go back into recovery and flash the zip again
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Hi,
I have rooted my phone using the quick root guide found here and therefore I have my stock kernel back w/ root. Do I need to install a cf root kernel?
Also, when the new ROM gets flashed how does one recover the apps and data lost?
NABNAP said:
Hi,
I have rooted my phone using the quick root guide found here and therefore I have my stock kernel back w/ root. Do I need to install a cf root kernel?
Also, when the new ROM gets flashed how does one recover the apps and data lost?
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Use Titanium Backup PRO for your app. You can backup all of them then restore on any rom.
Is there anything that Titanium Backup doesn't back up for which I need to use another application?
Thanks.
NABNAP said:
Is there anything that Titanium Backup doesn't back up for which I need to use another application?
Thanks.
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sms.. use another app to backup your sms.. for example sms backup as mentioned before..
Hi,
Firstly I will mention I'm a noob. I hgavent installed a modified ROM before, I currently have the latest 2.3.5 KJ2 firmware which I flashed using ODIN.
I want to installed a modified ROM mainly to get a digitial battery display in percent on my notification bar. However it appears all these modified ROMS require flashing through your SD card. The problem is I dont have an SD card. Is there a way to do this through USB only (i.e. Odin)?
Also what ROM and kernel would best suit my simple needs?
Jamie1029 said:
Hi,
Firstly I will mention I'm a noob. I hgavent installed a modified ROM before, I currently have the latest 2.3.5 KJ2 firmware which I flashed using ODIN.
I want to installed a modified ROM mainly to get a digitial battery display in percent on my notification bar. However it appears all these modified ROMS require flashing through your SD card. The problem is I dont have an SD card. Is there a way to do this through USB only (i.e. Odin)?
Also what ROM and kernel would best suit my simple needs?
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save the rom of your choosing on your phones usb storage...there you can flash it easily...so download rom and you will find it if you go in my files then search the folder download and it should be there ready for you in a zip file..
just follow the instructions at the main page of the rom thread that you want to flash and you should be fine..
first though if you are not already make sure you flash a cf root kernel so you get rooted and then go ahead and flash a rom....once you have cf on then you should have cwm were you can flash your rom through there...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
follow the guide in that link (im sure you have done but its late here so sorry) and then will see you have cwm and then flash your rom of your choosing
I'm rooted but I rooted the old way --> flashed an insecure kernel, downloaded this program called S2 root and rooted via USB, then flashed the original kernel back. It appears that by doing it this way, I don't have clockworkmod recovery..
Should I always flash using the way you said?
Ok.. so let me go through the process..
1) Get a CF root Kernel which will allow me to have cwm. Question: Does the kernel version always have to match the 'ROM' version? When I updated to KJ2 I see that under phone info the 'Baseband Version' reads I9100XXKI4. Does baseband mean ROM, i.e. I have KI4 ROM but KJ2 kernel?
2) Flash following instructions from the modified ROM. I can simply store the rom on my phones memory and flash from there. Do I have to do anything after this? e.g. wouldnt I have to flash another kernel from that modified ROM, and in doing so would I lose my root and cwm? How important it for ROMS to match kernels?
Also, when I install the CF root kernel I get the yellow triangle on boot right.. I read the method on your link to remove it but it seems complicated. What is he actually doing to remove the triangle? Is he flashing back the original kernel?
The method he mentioned is the easiest way to flash a custom kernel, without having the yellow triangle.
The kernel doesn't have to match the ROM version. A custom kernel, e.g. like hardcore's speedmod (can be found in the original android section) installs root and CWM automatically.
Flash the custom kernel with Odin. The yellow triangle should appear after that. But CWM should be available and you're rooted now.
Reflash the original Kernel with CWM to remove the yellow triangle.
But wouldn't reflashing the original kernel using cwm defeat the purpose of flashing the custom kernel? Also do I use 'flash an update' or :?'flash a kernel's what's the main difference?
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Jamie1029 said:
But wouldn't reflashing the original kernel using cwm defeat the purpose of flashing the custom kernel? Also do I use 'flash an update' or :?'flash a kernel's what's the main difference?
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Any stock kernel is flashed through ODIN after rooting to get rid of yellow triangle. Afterwards, to flash any kernel of your choice, use DarkyROM tool.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ficeto.darkyrom&hl=en
Just copy the kernel tar file in to your usb storage and you can flash the kernel within phone using darkyrom tool (no need of pc). Also this method won't give you back the yellow triangle again.
And to be safe, it's a wise idea to buy an USB jig to reset your binary counter.
Thanks for your help Droid. Interesting I noticed that I did not get the yellow triangle after flashing siyah kernel over cwm. Original kernel before that was the stock one modified as per crikelos instructions to get the speedmod.. is that normal?
Ohh I don't get the binary counter thing. Why do I need to reset it? And how and why can a USB jig do this? A link would help. Thanks!
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So let me see if i understand this correctly. From what i have read, it looks like i cant install CWM recovery without installing a custom Kernel? So me backing up my stock set up is pretty much out of the question? So everytime i wish to install a different custom rom i am essentailly reinstalling CWM recovery as well?
How can i backup my stock set up and restore it if i screw something up, or install a rom that i am not happy with? I am coming rom an epic 4g on sprint and it was different with that galaxy phone.
Flash a CF Root kernel that matches your firmware, create your near stock b/u. This will be your point to fall back on. 99.99% of ROMs you flash will include a kernel, that also has CWM, it may be a different version but they all work the same, for the most part. The majority of kernels include CWMr 5 or higher.
You'll always have the option of restoring your "stock" b/u so long as you don't delete it. Titanium b/u is the ticket to back up all your apps and their data rather than having to extract those apps/data from a CWM b/u.
You only have to root once. The easiest way to unroot is to flash a stock firmware. Flashing a stock kernel back on after you've rooted will replace CWM recovery with stock recovery, but you'll remain rooted. Probably doesn't address all your questions, but you've got a start.
mudferret said:
Flash a CF Root kernel that matches your firmware, create your near stock b/u. This will be your point to fall back on. 99.99% of ROMs you flash will include a kernel, that also has CWM, it may be a different version but they all work the same, for the most part. The majority of kernels include CWMr 5 or higher.
You'll always have the option of restoring your "stock" b/u so long as you don't delete it. Titanium b/u is the ticket to back up all your apps and their data rather than having to extract those apps/data from a CWM b/u.
You only have to root once. The easiest way to unroot is to flash a stock firmware. Flashing a stock kernel back on after you've rooted will replace CWM recovery with stock recovery, but you'll remain rooted. Probably doesn't address all your questions, but you've got a start.
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forgot to mention that i am rooted now. using oneclickroot.
Just flash a custom kernel with CWM recovery installed inside.
Such as:
- Siyah
- Phoenix
- Ninphetamine
etc...
DO NOT FLASH STOCK KERNEL AS IT WILL DELETE CWM RECOVERY. ROM MANAGER DOES NOT INSTALL RECOVERY ON YOUR PHONE.
nicholaschum said:
Just flash a custom kernel with CWM recovery installed inside.
Such as:
- Siyah
- Phoenix
- Ninphetamine
etc...
DO NOT FLASH STOCK KERNEL AS IT WILL DELETE CWM RECOVERY. ROM MANAGER DOES NOT INSTALL RECOVERY ON YOUR PHONE.
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is it as simple as using Odin, clicking PDA and flashing the downloaded kernel? and there should be no side effects from using a custom kernel such as Siyah?
Getting back to 100% stock is easy, odin flash a rom.
CF root *is* the stock kernel, just with some bits added (CWM recovery and root).
CF root with your stock rom is defo the safest bet.
jerseykat1 said:
is it as simple as using Odin, clicking PDA and flashing the downloaded kernel? and there should be no side effects from using a custom kernel such as Siyah?
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Yes if you get the kernel in odin tar file, otherwise flash CF root and use CWM recovery to flash the zips.
I am almost ready to perform my first custom ROM installation.
I am only travelling with a Mac so I can't use Windows software.
Is there a way to backup my/EFS directly from the phone?
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You need a custom recovery. How will you flash a custom rom w/o custom recovery?
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Blomberg said:
I am almost ready to perform my first custom ROM installation.
I am only travelling with a Mac so I can't use Windows software.
Is there a way to backup my/EFS directly from the phone?
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Download HC ktool from the market, create your efs backup with it and use a root explorer to copy it to an external removable micro SD card......
Edit.......you need to be rooted in order to use HC ktool.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
mezo91 said:
You need a custom recovery. How will you flash a custom rom w/o custom recovery?
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For rooting I will use Framaroot.
For installing CWM I believe that you can install it via ROM Manager, or you can install the ROM directly via Mobile Odin.
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OK....first....
Why look elsewhere for rooting methods? Everything you need is right here on XDA.
Second.....NEVER use ROM manager on an S2.....it breaks things.
Third....mobile Odin can only be used on rooted devices....primarily for flashing stock firmwares.
What version of android is on your S2....GB, ICS or JB?
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
Yes, I found Framaroot here and am planning to use it for the rooting purposes.
Thanks, good to know. So I will need to install CWM manually I guess. Somehow.
What is it that Mobile Odin does, is it an actual reovery ROM itself or does it install CWM which in turn installs the ROM?
But I can use Mobile Odin to install a custom ROM I think?
I am 4.1.2 JB
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Mobile Odin is a phone based version of PC Odin.....it is designed to flash back to stock from a rooted modified phone without the need to hook the phone to a PC....
You're on 4.1.2.....
Search for the PhilZ thread.......
With the downloads contained, you can root and flash CWM via the stock recovery in one flash.....don't get much easier than that.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
I can root it and flash it in one step? I've found like 50 guides but none of them as simple as you're suggesting.
There are so many ways to do each individual step.
I reckon the steps after that would be to install my custom ROM via CWM via SD card. Clear/Wipe cache and install the custom ROM again?
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Edit: How can I backup EFS before using the technique you mentioned to root/flash CWM in one go, if my device is not yet rooted?
As I said........easy.....
1) flash PhilZ via stock recovery to root and flash CWM
2) At this stage your phone will still boot normally and allow you to download HC ktool in order to make your EFS backup. It might be an idea to make a full backup (nandroid backup) of your current setup using CWM too....
3) use CWM to flash the ROM (and it's associated gapps package) of your choice.
4) use CWM to perform the cache, dalvik and data wipes.
5) reboot, perform initial setup download user apps.......
Job done.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
You could also juse Siyah Kernel, a good alternative to philz:good:
Except that it can't be flashed via the stock recovery.....it has to be flashed via Odin......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
In which way does a Kernel replace a rooter/bootloader flasher, are these not different things?
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As I said........easy.....
1) flash PhilZ via stock recovery to root and flash CWM
2) At this stage your phone will still boot normally and allow you to download HC ktool in order to make your EFS backup. It might be an idea to make a full backup (nandroid backup) of your current setup using CWM too....
3) use CWM to flash the ROM (and it's associated gapps package) of your choice.
4) use CWM to perform the cache, dalvik and data wipes.
5) reboot, perform initial setup download user apps.......
Job done.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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I very much appreciate your help Keith. I've been on numerous forum but never got this good feedback.
I searched the PhilZ thread and got so many results. My model is i9100 of the Galaxy S2, I guess the methods you have been describing works for this model?
I need to backup program data and EFS before I dare start playing around.
How can I backup EFS before using the technique you mentioned to root/flash CWM in one go, if my device is not yet rooted?
You can't. And you don't need to unless your phone is rooted, because if your phone is rooted nothing you can do to the phone is capable of borking the EFS/IMEI.
Edit - Also, I'm detecting a lack of knowledge of 'the basics' in the threads you've posted recently; I strongly suggest you read all the guides/tutorials stickied in the thread near the top of the General section before you do anything to your phone. A lack of knowledge exponentially increases the risk of you permanently breaking your phone depending on how little knowledge you have when you attempt to 'do stuff' to the phone.
For backing up the efs you'll need to flash a recovery first (like Philz as already suggested).
But anyway, problems with the efs won't be caused by just rooting so you can go ahead and root first and then use KTool.
kestrel5915 said:
For backing up the efs you'll need to flash a recovery first (like Philz as already suggested).
But anyway, problems with the efs won't be caused by just rooting so you can go ahead and root first and then use KTool.
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Thank you. As I want to perform all the necessary steps directly on my phone, I am now thinking of doing the following.
Installing Framaroot (APK) and rooting my Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276)
Installing KTool and backing up EFS to external SD-card
Installing Titanium Backup (Root version) to backup AppData
Alt 1.) Downloading Mobile Odin to OS. Flashing ROM + GApps via this. But this keeps my stock recovery? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899)
Alt 2.) Downloading PhilZ Touch Recovery 3.0 for Galaxy S2 i9100 which flashes + re-roots for me (?). Not sure if it's the right version as the post is old? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840223)
Alt 3.) Flashing CWM via Mobile Odin, and then in turn boot to recovery (now CWM) and flashing ROM + Gapps via CWM. This should update my recovery as well as my ROM?
After flashing ROM, entering recovery to Wipe Cache, Dalvik and Data
Flash ROM again as previous step supposedly deletes the ROM?
Boot ROM, Configure, Install Apps and restore App Data
Does the above look correct?
Is the version of PhilZ the correct one? It appears to be a 'temporary recovery' rather than a permanent, which might be what I am after if I want to flash the current version of CWM for Galaxy S2 from www.clockwerkmod.com/rommanager
Follow the instructions I gave in this post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48583106
and you will have a rooted phone running a custom ROM. No need to reflash the ROM after the wipes. Wiping cache, dalvik and data will NOT erase the ROM, all it'll do is erase any personal settings and downloaded apps.
Mobile Odin can't be used to flash custom ROMs, I think it can be used to flash CWM.... but only if you can find a compatible version in a .tar format.
PhilZ is still your best bet.....you will root your phone and install CWM in one hit.....all from your existing stock recovery. The CWM inPhilZ is NOT temporary, though it WILL be overwritten when you flash the ROM which will contain it's own permanent version of CWM. Just match your phones build version to the PhilZ kernel that you download.......
Why make extra work for yourself by increasing the number of steps you have to take (use framaroot then try to find a compatible CWM) when you can do it in one step?
And as mentioned before.....DON'T use ROM manager on an S2.....it breaks things....specifically recovery....one of your prime goals.....
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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You could also juse Siyah Kernel, a good alternative to philz:good:
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I made big projects of things. As a complete novice within Android, I've read through numerous threads, made project notes, consolidated info and made Mindmaps to understand this.
From my understanding, a kernel (I've seen Siyah mentions on many places) is the interpreter between hardware and the instructions given by the software.
In which way is this comparable to a recovery partition/ROM, namely PhilZ?
I'm sure it's some detail I'm missing, and thanks for the tip.
keithross39 said:
Follow the instructions I gave in this post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48583106
and you will have a rooted phone running a custom ROM. No need to reflash the ROM after the wipes. Wiping cache, dalvik and data will NOT erase the ROM, all it'll do is erase any personal settings and downloaded apps.
Mobile Odin can't be used to flash custom ROMs, I think it can be used to flash CWM.... but only if you can find a compatible version in a .tar format.
PhilZ is still your best bet.....you will root your phone and install CWM in one hit.....all from your existing stock recovery. The CWM inPhilZ is NOT temporary, though it WILL be overwritten when you flash the ROM which will contain it's own permanent version of CWM. Just match your phones build version to the PhilZ kernel that you download.......
Why make extra work for yourself by increasing the number of steps you have to take (use framaroot then try to find a compatible CWM) when you can do it in one step?
And as mentioned before.....DON'T use ROM manager on an S2.....it breaks things....specifically recovery....one of your prime goals.....
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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Thank you once again Keith for your engagement and good tips.
I think the reasons why I am considering the different options, and also trying them out - is to get a broader understanding of Android and the alternative processes as I approach my goal of flashing a new ROM.
1.) So far I installed Framaroot and rooted the device successfully.
2.) I then downloaded Hellcat's kTool and made an EFS backup (and a kernel dump, whatever that is)
3.) Then I installed Titanium Backup and backed up all user + system apps (+data I think)
4.) I then downloaded CWM from www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager > recovery as a zip, booted the stock recovery and started CWM (locally, without replacing stock recovery for some reason), from which I did a full Nandroid backup (with stock recovery intact in this backup, I guess. Device was however rooted so it's not fully original).
I reckon I now just need to download my custom ROM and it's relevant Gapps.
I have read good things about Mobile Odin, and since a while back it supports *.zip files so I believe it is a good alternative for flashing custom ROM's now as well.
PhilZ was a bit intimidating, as there was a general thread and different model based threads in each subforum. They were also in different versions, dates and basebands. Also it appears to be available in a "permanent" download as well as a "temporary", which caused my confusion in the last thread.
I did not know that the recovery was replaced when installing a custom ROM, as I did not know that they contained their own partition of a recovery ROM.
Thanks for the information about not needing to re-flash ROM after the relevant wipes.
Thanks for the discouragement of ROM Manager, I promise to stay away from it.
From my understanding, PhilZ seems to be a modified version of CWM6, which includes ChainFire's Auto Root and some other add-ons as well. Is this a correct understanding?
You don't need to backup system apps/data from Titanium Backup because restoring them on a new rom will definitely cause issues.
Plus in case of a bad flash or something nandroid is always there for you so before doing anything new with the phone always do a nandroid backup.