New to Rooting Questions - Motorola Droid X2

I just rooted my DX2, i intended to use rom manager to flash/backup my roms but that was not working. So i downloaded bootstrap (the little green arrow icon) and used that to make a backup of my stock system and then used titanium backup to backup all my apps.
What i wanted to know is when i finally install a new rom and do a data wipe how do i recover everything if it starts me with a clean phone? do i just reinstall titanium and bootstrap and will SU still be installed?
Also can you point me to a good guide on installing CM9 to my DX2?
Thank you,
Jake

A couple of things. What system version are you on? 2.3.4 or 2.3.5? Also Rom Manager doesnt work for us (as you know now.) Are you using the BSR from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318083 ?
When you install a ROM yes you reinstall the BSR (but if you are going on CM7-9-10 then you need the CM7 patched BSR once on the ROM.) and then Redownload Titanium Backup. All your backups are stored on your external card so a wipe doesnt get rid of them. Once titanium is loaded back up it will find them.
A rom comes rooted so SU and everything is part of the package. Install instructions for ROMS are on the original page of the ROMS. Just note that if you are on 2.3.5 the only ROM that will work for you is Eclipse. All the other ROMs are 2.3.4 based.

GoClifGo05 said:
A couple of things. What system version are you on? 2.3.4 or 2.3.5? Also Rom Manager doesnt work for us (as you know now.) Are you using the BSR from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318083 ?
When you install a ROM yes you reinstall the BSR (but if you are going on CM7-9-10 then you need the CM7 patched BSR once on the ROM.) and then Redownload Titanium Backup. All your backups are stored on your external card so a wipe doesnt get rid of them. Once titanium is loaded back up it will find them.
A rom comes rooted so SU and everything is part of the package. Install instructions for ROMS are on the original page of the ROMS. Just note that if you are on 2.3.5 the only ROM that will work for you is Eclipse. All the other ROMs are 2.3.4 based.
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I got BSR from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169677
I am on 2.3.5, is eclipse a good rom?
Thanks,
Jake

Eclipse is a very stable and clean ROM. I used it for a long time. CM7 is also stable and a.lot.more customizable but you will need to SBF to 2.3.4 to get on it. Both eclipse and CM7 are gingerbread roms. Cm9, MIUI, AOKP Paranoid Android are ICS and CM10 is jellybean.
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GoClifGo05 said:
Eclipse is a very stable and clean ROM. I used it for a long time. CM7 is also stable and a.lot.more customizable but you will need to SBF to 2.3.4 to get on it. Both eclipse and CM7 are gingerbread roms. Cm9, MIUI, AOKP Paranoid Android are ICS and CM10 is jellybean.
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I also just rooted my DX2 running 2.3.5. Do i have to SBF to 2.3.4 to run CM10?, or can i flash CM10 from 2.3.5?

You'll have to SBF to 2.3.4 and reroot.
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GoClifGo05 said:
Eclipse is a very stable and clean ROM. I used it for a long time. CM7 is also stable and a.lot.more customizable but you will need to SBF to 2.3.4 to get on it. Both eclipse and CM7 are gingerbread roms. Cm9, MIUI, AOKP Paranoid Android are ICS and CM10 is jellybean.
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Thanks for recommending Eclipse, its a really awesome ROM. At some point i plan to SBF to 2.3.4 for CM10, but for now Eclipse is better than stock.
Thank you,
Jake
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Eclipse is rock solid. CM10 will get more stable eventually.
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CM7 ROCKS `
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Q: On GB rooted, flashing back to Froyo backup?

i'm running P3's rooted gingerbread. it's not running as flawlessly as rooted froyo (HDMI doesn't work, cloud version google music doesn't work). i have a nandroid backup of froyo. can i just flash the backup froyo rom or do i need to sbf? i don't mind sbf'ing but i would like to avoid the hassle of having to sbf, reinstall everything, re root, re debloat, etc.
has anyone successfully flashed a backup froyo from gingerbread?
thanks.
I have considered rolling back to my 2.2 nandoid backup myself. I have both 2.3 and 2.2 set up the same (supercharged, debloated, sd speed increas, vold.file to switch sd external read as internal) and honestely 2.2 was faster and less glichy than 2.3 has been. I "think" you shoul be OK to flash your 2.2 backup from 2.3, but I am not positive about this so wait until others have chimed in to this thread.
google didn't find many results so i read the droidx forum. there are several threads in that forum stating that the X could NOT flash a backup of froyo when on gingerbread. boot up gets stuck at M.
i would assume that it's the same w/ the X2. i think the gb upgrade installed a new bootloader and this is the reason why you can't simply flash a backup froyo rom.
awaiting confirmation.
You can't load backups cross versions. You would need to sbf to froyo first, root and bootstrap, then load your backup. Like wise if you wanted to load a gingerbread backup you'd have to be currently on gingerbread.
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I flashed a backup a back up to froyo from gingerbread, it was messed up successfully booted but screen was so slow to the touch. End result SBF
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teegunn said:
I have considered rolling back to my 2.2 nandoid backup myself. I have both 2.3 and 2.2 set up the same (supercharged, debloated, sd speed increas, vold.file to switch sd external read as internal) and honestely 2.2 was faster and less glichy than 2.3 has been. I "think" you shoul be OK to flash your 2.2 backup from 2.3, but I am not positive about this so wait until others have chimed in to this thread.
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Unsupercharge and see how 2.3.3 runs for you. Kills froyo IMO
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2.3.3 had bad music skipping and pausing w/out supercharger. supercharger addressed the lag, for the most part. no way i could use 2.3.3 w/out supercharger.
anyway, i sbf'ed back to froyo, rerooted, loaded custom recovery, debloated, supercharged. i like it better than froyo. my hdmi out works. my cloud google music works. the music does not skip or pause. the only complaint is the screen lag coming out of sleep. i had forgotten about that.
now that i've tried 2.3.3, i'm staying w/ froyo.
h_10 said:
i'm running P3's rooted gingerbread. it's not running as flawlessly as rooted froyo (HDMI doesn't work, cloud version google music doesn't work). i have a nandroid backup of froyo. can i just flash the backup froyo rom or do i need to sbf? i don't mind sbf'ing but i would like to avoid the hassle of having to sbf, reinstall everything, re root, re debloat, etc.
has anyone successfully flashed a backup froyo from gingerbread?
thanks.
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Could you not sbf back to froyo, root and install bootstrap, then restore your nandroid backup?
definitely i could've. but i wanted to start from scratch and refreeze crApss and install supercharger. i like fresh starts.
For a sec I thought that said fresh farts HaHa
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Steroid Droid said:
For a sec I thought that said fresh farts HaHa
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The guy above you did mention crApps on his phone
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mistawolfe said:
Unsupercharge and see how 2.3.3 runs for you. Kills froyo IMO
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I've tried lots of variations. Supercharged is the best IMO.

Question about bootstrap

Is bootstrap recovery the same as clockwork recovery? Are they one and the same?
Also I'm on kernal 2.3.4 do I have to do anything special if I want to load a 2.3.5 rom?
Sorry I'm new to playing around with motorola phones.
I thought they were the same when I first started hacking my phone. But it turns out they are not the same.
As for updating your phone to 2.3.5, if you are on stock 2.3.4, all you need to do is root your phone, install bootstrap recovery and flash the 2.3.5 ROM using bootstrap recovery.
There is a nice guide someone put together in the dev. Section.
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Basically, yes - those recoveries a almost the same. They are both used in the same way, which is to backup/restore, wipe data and flash a ROM. So there's no real difference.
As for the 2.3.4 kernel. SOME people can get away with flashing a 2.3.5 based ROM on their 2.3.4, others can't. Either way, I'd recommend just updating to 2.3.5 to safe. Plus (to me), 2.3.5 seems smoother and faster.
To Update to 2.3.5, just download the update.zip from here: http://www.multiupload.com/0ZT7FTOW0R
This is just the update file, so all you need to do is flash that, but I won't get into much about that.
If you need a guide on updating it, then you can look at this one right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
That's the one I used.
Ok so I'm currently on Molten 2.2 wich is a 2.3.4 romand was looking at liberty rom wich is 2.3.5 rom. So all I would need to do is just clear the needed data and flash it like any other rom?
The reason for asking about if it was clockwork was because in one of the roms the instructions says to use clockwork and I never saw a like to clockwork in the dev section
Yes I looked in the stickies first and these were just the questions that popped up that I didn't see the answer to it. I may have just over looked it but I figured I would ask before I borked my phone lol
looks like while I was writing a responce some one answered lol thank you all for your help
U don't need to root to install 2.3.5
It is signed by moto so we can flash in stock recovery
(actually that's how you SHOULD FLASH 2.3.5)
And our BSR is a hacked/ported cwm
To update to 2.3.5 you WILL need to be STOCK (you CAN be rooted but it will take away root when u flash it....just root again with zergrush...)
bsannes said:
Ok so I'm currently on Molten 2.2 wich is a 2.3.4 romand was looking at liberty rom wich is 2.3.5 rom.
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Just so you know, Liberty is a 2.3.4 rom. Have a look at the OP in that thread. If you're on Molten, just wipe data and cache and you should be set.

Going from rooted 2.3.4 to 2.3.5

Hi, I just rooted my Droid X2 this morning on 2.3.4 and want to install Eclipse 2.0.2 and realized that have to be on 2.3.5. I saw this thread and was wondering if it was possible for me to just boot into bootstrap and flash 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.0.2 without having to SPF back to complete stock unrooted 2.3.4? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Edit: I also read somewhere that ROM manager does not work correctly with the DX2? If that is the case, what is the best alternative to this?
helloterence said:
Hi, I just rooted my Droid X2 this morning on 2.3.4 and want to install Eclipse 2.0.2 and realized that have to be on 2.3.5. I saw this thread and was wondering if it was possible for me to just boot into bootstrap and flash 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.0.2 without having to SPF back to complete stock unrooted 2.3.4? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Edit: I also read somewhere that ROM manager does not work correctly with the DX2? If that is the case, what is the best alternative to this?
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You must follow that thread to a T if you want to be on eclipse 2.02 or else it will not work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412729 same thread in post #3. Follow it and enjoy. If you try your own thing it will not work. A lot of hard work and a couple of days to figure out this method and it is the only way I got on 2.02 and loving it
helloterence said:
Hi, I just rooted my Droid X2 this morning on 2.3.4 and want to install Eclipse 2.0.2 and realized that have to be on 2.3.5. I saw this thread and was wondering if it was possible for me to just boot into bootstrap and flash 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.0.2 without having to SPF back to complete stock unrooted 2.3.4? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Edit: I also read somewhere that ROM manager does not work correctly with the DX2? If that is the case, what is the best alternative to this?
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There really is no alternative to rom manager for what it does. You HAVE to use bootstrap recovery
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If your running the STOCK 2.3.4, then you do NOT need to SBF to a fresh version. This is whether your rooted or not. You'll only need to SBF to stock 2.3.4 if you installed a custom ROM on, like Molten, Liberty, etc.
Personally, I would recommend SBF'ing - but that's just because I like a fresh, clean start with these things. Eitherway, it'll work perfectly fine.
As for getting to 2.3.5, it's recommend that you use the "Android Recovery" that comes with it to flash the update. Once your on 2.3.5 you'll need to reroot and install BSR to get the custom ROM on.
Use ota root keeper from the market and upgrade
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weldawadyathink said:
Use ota root keeper from the market and upgrade
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Do NOT use ota root keeper if u ever wanna think about a custom Tom on the 2.3.5 build.. update to 2.3.5 wont work if u deleted any bloatware
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Are you sure about that motcher41 ? You can just delete the su BU. The RK apk gives you the option.
skwoodwiva said:
Are you sure about that motcher41 ? You can just delete the su BU. The RK apk gives you the option.
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Imho yes im sure. I personally did bootloop and had to sbf.
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OK But you did not have to. Just for the record IF I delete the SU BU I NEVER BOMBed OUT OF ANY ROM CUZ OF RK.
skwoodwiva said:
OK But you did not have to. Just for the record IF I delete the SU BU I NEVER BOMBed OUT OF ANY ROM CUZ OF RK.
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Yes it can be done
BUT
For people who are just trying to follow the directions for the ROM install, they will end up having issues, because no where in the ROM install instructions, for any ROM we have, does it mention deleting SU backup made by root keeper. So if they try to just flash a ROM after rooting w/ root keeper, they will get an "installation aborted error line 294" & if they aren't able to restore a backup before rebooting then it's just going to be sbf time anyways lol.
If you know what you are doing tho and have read into it and found what you need to do of using root keeper to gain root, then yes, go for it, but the "average" user here is going to have no idea why they keep getting installation aborted, when they could just use zergrush and be all good to go
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As it is, if I have to go to 2.3.5, I hold off rooting until AFTER I've updated to 2.3.5. No need to root if I'm sbfing to 2.3.4 and updating to 2.3.5. The root is only needed when I'm ready to install BSR and flash a custom ROM.
This is what I do:
SBF to 2.3.4
Apply 2.3.5 update
Root
Install BSR
Flash 2.3.5 custom ROM
Done
To me, Rootkeeper just seems to cause more hassles and it's just easier to root after I'm done updating to 2.3.5. No need to root at the 2.3.4 level.
Of course, if you are already rooted at 2.3.4 and want to update to 2.3.5, I can see that, but Rootkeeper has been proven to cause issues and it just creates more work to avoid those issues.
ashclepdia said:
Yes it can be done
BUT
For people who are just trying to follow the directions for the ROM install, they will end up having issues, because no where in the ROM install instructions, for any ROM we have, does it mention deleting SU backup made by root keeper. So if they try to just flash a ROM after rooting w/ root keeper, they will get an "installation aborted error line 294" & if they aren't able to restore a backup before rebooting then it's just going to be sbf time anyways lol.
If you know what you are doing tho and have read into it and found what you need to do of using root keeper to gain root, then yes, go for it, but the "average" user here is going to have no idea why they keep getting installation aborted, when they could just use zergrush and be all good to go
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iBolski said:
As it is, if I have to go to 2.3.5, I hold off rooting until AFTER I've updated to 2.3.5. No need to root if I'm sbfing to 2.3.4 and updating to 2.3.5. The root is only needed when I'm ready to install BSR and flash a custom ROM.
This is what I do:
SBF to 2.3.4
Apply 2.3.5 update
Root
Install BSR
Flash 2.3.5 custom ROM
Done
To me, Rootkeeper just seems to cause more hassles and it's just easier to root after I'm done updating to 2.3.5. No need to root at the 2.3.4 level.
Of course, if you are already rooted at 2.3.4 and want to update to 2.3.5, I can see that, but Rootkeeper has been proven to cause issues and it just creates more work to avoid those issues.
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Nandroid 2.3.4 to prevent having to SBF?

I am in the process of flashing a rom, so I'm on stock SBF 2.3.4. If I created a nandroid backup right now, when I (in the future) need to SBF to 2.3.4, would restoring my 2.3..4 nandroid backup be the same thing?
Thanks
I don't think so, but then again I am not so sure. You can always test it though. I mean If it doesn't work just sbf anyways right?
DX2-CM7
It will work for all roms based off the 2.3.4 kernel. Once you move to a new kernel, say 2.3.5 you will need to sbf back to 2.3.4 to use that nandroid.
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jeremy46er said:
It will work for all roms based off the 2.3.4 kernel. Once you move to a new kernel, say 2.3.5 you will need to sbf back to 2.3.4 to use that nandroid.
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This is correct. To further explain, nandroiding doesn't replace the kernel. So, if you go to 2.3.5 and try to nandroid back to 2.3.4, you will NOT replace the kernel. The kernel would still be 2.3.5, but you would have a lot of other system files that are 2.3.4, probably resulting in a lot of FCs.
Nandroiding backs up your system files as well as user files. It does not touch the kernel in any fashion.
My feeling is, when in doubt, SBF.
jeremy46er said:
It will work for all roms based off the 2.3.4 kernel. Once you move to a new kernel, say 2.3.5 you will need to sbf back to 2.3.4 to use that nandroid.
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iBolski said:
This is correct. To further explain, nandroiding doesn't replace the kernel. So, if you go to 2.3.5 and try to nandroid back to 2.3.4, you will NOT replace the kernel. The kernel would still be 2.3.5, but you would have a lot of other system files that are 2.3.4, probably resulting in a lot of FCs.
Nandroiding backs up your system files as well as user files. It does not touch the kernel in any fashion.
My feeling is, when in doubt, SBF.
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Thanks guys, that's good to know about the kernel. I was under the impression that nandroid would backup kernel as well. Thanks for the info!

[Q] if I restore nandroid backup, will it go back to 2.3.4?

if I restore my phone back to stock via my nandroid backup, will it go back to 2.3.4? knowing this would greatly help me, because I'd like to flash the newest CM7 RC1, right now I have RC0
A nandroid does not change the kernal.
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fuzzfaceJ said:
if I restore my phone back to stock via my nandroid backup, will it go back to 2.3.4? knowing this would greatly help me, because I'd like to flash the newest CM7 RC1, right now I have RC0
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As I recall if you are on cm7 rc0 you can flash cm7 rc1 over it, just as you can flash cm9 over cm7 rc1. And all btw are based on the 2.3.4 kernel. Now if you flash a rom that uses the 2.3.5 kernel and you want to get back to the 2.3.4 or vice-a-versa it's sbf time.
And if I got it wrong its because of old age or medication or something...lol as with any major changes your planning for your phone educate yourself first.
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hmm, it says 2.3.7 in "about phone"
however, it was 2.3.4 before I got cm7
is it 2.3.7? or is that just what it says?
thanks for any help you all can provide
If your on cm7dx2 rc0 you can flash cm7dx2 rc1 over it with no problems. Just make sure to reflash gapps and your good. Also the 2.3.7 thing is just from the build prop edit if you are on cm7dx2 you are on actual 2.3.4 kernel.
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thanks everyone, I was able to update it with no problem

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