I have two puzzling questions. I have installed both the AtrICS Rom and the ICSROM, from which two issues have surfaced.
1) The AtrICS Rom feels slightly cooler than the ICSROM (both are warmer than they should be, but that's expected with a new source code).
Has anyone else noticed this? I have tested both AtrICS 1.0 and ICSROM 1.3
2) The battery life using AtrICS appears to be slightly better than ICSROM.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Please and Thanks for answering! <(^_^)>
AstroBoy89 said:
I have two puzzling questions. I have installed both the AtrICS Rom and the ICSROM, from which two issues have surfaced.
1) The AtrICS Rom feels slightly cooler than the ICSROM (both are warmer than they should be, but that's expected with a new source code).
Has anyone else noticed this? I have tested both AtrICS 1.0 and ICSROM 1.3
2) The battery life using AtrICS appears to be slightly better than ICSROM.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Please and Thanks for answering! <(^_^)>
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1) "coolness" depends on how you use the phone, and what frequencies it is running at. It is only affected by your usage.
2) Battery life also depends on that. Seeing as the AtrICS rom is cooler in your case, it means you are using it less and therefore the battery life is better.
ICSROM is based on AtrICS so it should not change much the battery issue and the problems that are already known. In my case I'm running AtrICS, with some modifications I'm testing, and apparently the battery life is much better.
the 2 roms are the same thing
joser1309 said:
ICSROM is based on AtrICS so it should not change much the battery issue and the problems that are already known. In my case I'm running AtrICS, with some modifications I'm testing, and apparently the battery life is much better.
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If you could share those modifications...
I am testing both AtrICS and ICSROM with the same applications; i.e. Dolphin Browser, Shadowgun, Wild Blood, etc., and I have noticed that ICSROM is warmer and more sluggish during heavy use. Is there something I can send you to show you my results? Maybe the modifications in build.prop in AtrICS are the cause.
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Would you be willing to share your modifications? About how long does your battery last when you take it off the charger?
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i have downloaded AtrICS rom and i am not sure which one should i flash can someone state the differences and the similarity because i really want ICS on my phone thank you guys so much for the useful in for you have provided above but an impotent question which on is actually faster???
well i have downloaded both
what i wil do.....
restore my aps (without data of course) using titanium backup....
doing this, i will have the same apps on both.
will test using webtop etc....
im currently installing atrICS 1.0 as i type this n ICSROM 1.3 is being downloaded so will see how it goes
I have deleted some lines as suggested from other posts in regards to ICSROM, installed AnTuTu CPU Master Pro and TB Pro. I can see some increase in battery life with the default profile set at 216 min and 816 max. I won't be able to see any major results for a couple of days. Purchasing the pro versions of AnTuTu CPU Master and TB were worth it. I will keep an eye on my system stats.
P.S. I am a noob, but can you dual boot two roms? If so, how? Also, in regards to a few posts behind this one, did I read correctly where you said you will try both roms out at the same time?
Please and Thanks!
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Well I been using AtrICS n its been his so far. Only had about 5 this and phone got hot but back to normal now
Also did a benchmark and its low. Lower than standard antic but the phone moves very smooth n easy with this ROm
i got rid of atrICS because the battery life was awful, think i had 6 hours on my 3rd day or using the rom, i sent 10 messages uysing whatsapp, used 15 minutes of internet and half an hour of music and it was dead..
some problems...
i am a taiwan version atrix user(me860)
after i flash atrics or icsrom
my atrix will reboot again and again automatic
and the frequency is so high that i cant use it
what can i do now?
My experience:
I was getting more random reboots with ICSROM+it ate my battery little bit faster than AtrICS, so I would suggest AtrICS. I didnt flash latest build of ICSROM, but i dont believe battery life is much better.
AstroBoy89 said:
I have deleted some lines as suggested from other posts in regards to ICSROM, installed AnTuTu CPU Master Pro and TB Pro. I can see some increase in battery life with the default profile set at 216 min and 816 max. I won't be able to see any major results for a couple of days. Purchasing the pro versions of AnTuTu CPU Master and TB were worth it. I will keep an eye on my system stats.
P.S. I am a noob, but can you dual boot two roms? If so, how? Also, in regards to a few posts behind this one, did I read correctly where you said you will try both roms out at the same time?
Please and Thanks!
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well as AstroBoy89 did. i installed AnTuTu CPU Master, the free verson though.
i had gotten 4 reboots in total n those were with the spaace of an hour...
i have not gotten any since... but now i have installed the cpu master n lower max cpu a tad bit cause i realize it fluctuates alot and this can cause the phone to get HOT and thereby GREATLY decreasing battery life......
since doign that, phone been running cool, smooth, no reboots.....
AstroBoy89 said:
I have two puzzling questions. I have installed both the AtrICS Rom and the ICSROM, from which two issues have surfaced.
1) The AtrICS Rom feels slightly cooler than the ICSROM (both are warmer than they should be, but that's expected with a new source code).
Has anyone else noticed this? I have tested both AtrICS 1.0 and ICSROM 1.3
2) The battery life using AtrICS appears to be slightly better than ICSROM.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Please and Thanks for answering! <(^_^)>
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I truly think both of them are based on the same kernel and rom, however I found some difference like why mymusic on ICSROM works but doesn't work on AtrICS. And Weatherwidgets which I love very much could not be installed on ICSROM...
well guys
things to a turn for the worst for me!!!!
my battery goes from 100% to 1% in about 2 hrs!
n yes i have take every battery saving step...
reinstalling rom from scratch after full wipe and downloaded app directly from store (did not restore anything from previous backup)
hmmm......
gonna try ICSROM and see how that goes
Make sure you're doing a full wipe between roms.
Wipe cache
Wipe data
Wipe dalvik
Under mounts and storage in CWM...
Wipe /system
Wipe /osh
Wipe /preinstall
Then:
Flash Webtop with CWM
Flash Rom
*Flash Apps package if needed
Reboot!
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Try this .apk, it should help with the battery calibration.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832470
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Well, i didn't try the atrICS, but i'm using the ICSROM since the v1.3 and now the v1.4. My battery maximum life was 14h and a few minutes, but not on heavy use. It's not warming too much, in fact, it's cooler than my gb stock. Games are running smooth. I'd only like camera quality to be better, and battery life to be longer.
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Hi everybody.
Right now, I am using ResurrectionRemix 1.7 ROM and the Siyah 3.2b8 Kernel. I love both the ROM AND the Kernel, however, a while ago, I noticed the performance of my SGS2 being pretty bad.
Now, before you call me a noob that knows nothing about Smartphones, Custom-ROMS, Kernel, etc., please, do me the favor and read on.
I know that neither ResurrectionRemix or Siyah Kernel are optimal if you want pure power and maximum Performance. I have always been a Fan of balanced battery/performance. However, I find it to be quite bizarre that my phone gets very bad scores in Benchmarks.
I know that benchmarks can be unaccurate/treaturous/not representative, but the thing is that I never got a higher score than 4000 on AntutuBenchmark and no more than around 2500 on Quadrant, no matter what settings and tweaks I use!
I have tried so many of them and the scores never really changed much.
For example, yesterday, I flashed the new Version of my Kernel (Siyah 3.2b8). I then changed the ExTweaks settings to "performance" in CWMRecovery. I overclocked my CPU to 1400MHz with VoltageControl, locked it (with performance governor) and changed the scheduler to VR.
I still only got 3264 on Antutu and 2442 on Quadrant...
Before that, I had tweaked my Kernel (using ExTweaks) with the sample values given in the awesome Tweaks Post by droidphile. I really tried lots of different Tweaks and settings, but never got any good results in Benchmarks. NEVER!
I would be glad if some of you had suggestions what could be the Problem. I know you can easily get to 6000 (Antutu) or 4000 (Quadrant) with the GSG2. Normally, I am not the guy who just cares about Benchmarks and compares it with others on a daily basis, however, this (very) low performance of my phone really intrigues me. After all, we bought the GSG2 for its awesome Power capabilities, didn't we?
Info:
I have quite a lot of Apps installed (about 190), if that helps.
As you have failed to read the rules and post in the wrong section you are a noob or worse .
Its been well posted for over a year benchmarks are a waste of time Quadrant in particular .
No two benchmarks run one after the other are the same .
jje
You have some thing ****ing your results and maybe your overall performace with games are affect.
Did you tried full wipe ?
Here with stock lp9 + siyah 3.2b8 i got 4400 quadrant and 6500 antutu
Using CM9 3900 on quadrant and 6100 antutu.
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I also Have same problem
First of all, I am very sorry to have posted in the false section.
@ Eric-Filth: Thanks for your answer!
I often did a data wipe/factory reset when I tried different ROMs.
My games run fine more or less, but I am sure that the performance could be better/smoother.
Again: I have NO IDEA why absolutely everyone has better results than me.
@ JJEgan: Yeah I know Benchmarks are often inaccurate, but I did run them so often and always got about the same results (very bad ones, obviously). It only varied about 100-200 points in both benchmarks. That is not too big of a difference, is it? But whatever, that is not what matters. Do you have a suggestion, noble sir?
BTW: Thanks for the quick judge! Compared to you, I am definitely a noob. So, why don't you use your wisdom to make suggestions for a noob like me?
No offense, m8!
Cheers!
Looking you results both benchmarks showing your problem is with cpu performace. Gpu performace is ok.
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did you restore via titanium backup after wiping?
Yeah but what could be the problem? As far as I know, a modern CPU cannot be half-broken. It either works correctly or it's broken completely. The only reason I can imagine is overheating (thermal throttling lowering the performance), but that doesn't seem to be the case, as my phone hardly ever gets very hot...
Mine is also lagging in performance also around 2200in quadrant
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@bluefa1con: errrrrr it's possible that I backed up my apps from stock after rooting and before installing my first custom ROM, which was actually the ResurrectionRemix ICS 1.x. After a while I backed up the ResRemix ROM with CWM and tried different ROMs but I eventually came back to Resurrection because I like this ROM most.
So yeah, I might have restored Apps with Titanium Backup when I first installed ResRemix.
Could that really be a problem?
Big thanks anyway!
I have almost sure if you do full wipe and no restore anything and install all again this problem will resolve.
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Lukasyus said:
a while ago, I noticed the performance of my SGS2 being pretty bad.
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Besides the benchmarks (sigh), how else have you noticed? If the answer is that you haven't, move on with your life.
eric-filth said:
I have almost sure if you do full wipe and no restore anything and install all again this problem will resolve.
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this
maybe some of the data in your backup is corrupt and runs in the background and ruins performance
My phone went from 4k+ on stock Rom to less than 3 with ics resurrection..the rom is blazing fast and hence I don't really care.
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Thank you very much! All of you!
I will do a full wipe and install everything all over again.
Only two more little questions:
1. Is there a "best" way to do the full wipe? After doing a factory reset and wiping the caches, I would go to mounts and storages and format internal storage. Would that do the trick?
2. Is there any way I can keep the user data of the apps so I don't lose all of my settings, game saves,...?
Cheers!
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Lukasyus said:
Thank you very much! All of you!
I will do a full wipe and install everything all over again.
Only two more little questions:
1. Is there a "best" way to do the full wipe? After doing a factory reset and wiping the caches, I would go to mounts and storages and format internal storage. Would that do the trick?
2. Is there any way I can keep the user data of the apps so I don't lose all of my settings, game saves,...?
Cheers!
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Have two good methods.
1- if you using stock rom. Type *2767*3855#
2- if you using custom. Enter CWM Recovery and wipe "data" "system" "cache"
I keep my save games this way.
/data/data/nameyourgame/files probaly you save game is there or inside /android/data/nameyourgame/
Post your results later.
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Do you use task killer? If no, then kill all your qpps before running bencmarks. Altrough benchmarks are just waste of time
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Hi there
i have my galaxy for a few wekks now and i find battery on CM9 RC2 pretty bad (underclocked and undervolted)
which rom is recommended for good battery life (and works with siyah kernel)
GPS/WIFI/MOBILE DATA/CAMERA must be working !!
thanks for your suggestions
I was using xwlpo stock, only rooted. Undervolted -25 and set cpu to 800 mhz. The governor was ondemand. The formula of amazing battery life. Now i use jelly bean which wastes battery.
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No two people will ever have the exact same setup, and even if they miraculously did, the likelihood of their two phones coming out of the factory exactly the same is infinitesimal.
So a ROM that someone else experiences good battery life with, may be terrible for you or me.
Psyloid said:
Hi there
i have my galaxy for a few wekks now and i find battery on CM9 RC2 pretty bad (underclocked and undervolted)
which rom is recommended for good battery life (and works with siyah kernel)
GPS/WIFI/MOBILE DATA/CAMERA must be working !!
thanks for your suggestions
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Try rootbox with dm kernel. It has pretty good battery, but like previously said every user is different and therefore will have different battery life. It would not surpise me if this gets closed very quickly.
Hey guys I just got NFS: Most Wanted on the ATT Note. The gameplay and the controls are great but the game sort runs in slowmo. Anybody else getting different performance in other ROMS?
I'm running flapjaxx's AOSP ICS rom W/ GPU OC and CPU OC. I assume the slowness is due to the Note's large resolution and it's not quite as optimized as it could be for our phones. It is smooth but just terribly slow.
UPDATE
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE 2
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel and using the kernel from 'better stock' ROM above, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
UPDATE 3
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE 4
In conclusion:
Game is somehow determining the graphics through the kernel
SD Data downloaded is the same on every rom, don't have to download new SD Data.
Some roms perform better than others. I had a lot of luck with Jelly Bean roms on stock kernel, no need to overclock.
Figured I'd give you guys a ranking list from roms. Going from best to worst
1. Latest Jelly Bean Nightly 11/21 Stock Kernel - Great out of car and even faster in car - graphics medium
2. Flapjaxx's FJ Stock Rom Mod - OCGPU/CPU best performance (in car view only) - graphics high
3. Electro's Stock Rom - Stock Kernel with no OC Okay performance in both out of car view and in car view - graphics medium
im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
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That's jelly bean right? I had some problems running games and with graphical glitches in jelly bean until I turned off HW overlay and that stopped my problems.
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I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
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Wow, yeah running in that camera mode is a lot better. Hopefully the fix the issues completely. Thanks for the tip!
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Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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What do you mean?
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Tomdg07 said:
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Ditto, switching to in-car view is definitely a lot smoother, has decent graphics but looks like the limit of S3 Adreno 225 chip has been reached, this (and other games of similar graphic quality) may be enough reason for me to upgrade to note 2 later. I also have slow down problem with NBA 2K13.
No real graphic glitch however, if you see missing textures it has to be wrong sd data, remember we are Snapdragon NOT Mali.
Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
Metsuna said:
Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Just tried NFS Most Wanted on Liquid with KK Kernel and no luck. I even tried some build prop tweaks. It just feels too slow. Weird.
Going to try deleting it and redownloading the SD Data instead of restoring it from Titanium. Will report back with results.
EDIT: No go either. Still low frame rates. On a good note however, Liquid Jellybean Rom is probably the most stable of the Jellybeanies.
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE
Tried the OC Kernel on the stock ROM which lead it to being slow again! I'm not sure now what to think. Going to wipe and go back to the 'better stock' kernel not the 'pure stock'.
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Tomdg07 said:
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Agreed. Right now there is no way to change graphics quality. Certainly would save me trouble. What I think is happening is that with some Roms and Kernels the game thinks we have higher hardware and cranks up the graphic quality thus slowing down the performance of the game.
What I found is every time I used an OC kernel of some type, the game slows. So it might be a kernel issue.
I just cant comprehend why despite having the same phone and same setup (i.e. rom, kernel etc) we get totally different results.
PS> Tomdg07 props to your state for pushing obama over the 270 he needed to win. Americans totally made up for giving dubya two terms.
I was testing some more Roms yesterday including Black IV and Electro's stock debloated Rom. Black IV had flapjaxx's kernel with the ability to OC and on the Electro was not OCable.
My results were the same. Something about flapjaxx's kernel or kernels with the ability to OC makes the game bump up in graphics thus making it slower. The game must be scanning the clockspeed or something or maybe it's something deeper than that. If I can I want to test out AOSP roms again to see if its the kernel or both the kernel + the rom.
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE: Those of you that are finding this page and reading this post. Look on the front page for what roms are the best for this game.
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Tomdg07 said:
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
Metsuna said:
Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Only form of a backup I have is in the nandroid backup I did before flashing cm10, I suppose I could dig it out of there somehow, but I'll give them a day or two to fix it first
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I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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I ran his roms when I had my gs3. Tbey were the best. Fast and everything worked. I havent tried any roms fpr tgis one yet but when I do it will be his rom first.
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I love it as well. Best performance out of any ROM. But I also am in love with AOSP and 4.2 is amazing. So torn!!!
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I cant do the stock look, it doesnt agree with me!
Bradh024 said:
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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Yeah... I'm just letting people know tjere was a stock-ish rom with un believabke battery performance. I can't even remember where my extra battery is....I havent used it since I started using Clean.
Other roms are great...clean is...just amazing
I gotta give this a try
A couple of things...
Is everything working?
And of course the famous "is wifi tether working"?
And - how stock is stock? Do you get the horrible message in your pull down, "There are wifi networks available?", "Your wifi is off" blah blah blah. Man! That was irritating!
Thanks for any information.
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I disagree. I wasn't impressed with that ROM.
But its your opinion. Glad u like it.
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sudermatt said:
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
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Im at 1d, 10 hours and almost 1.5 hours screen time, I have 56% left....
Oh and stock.
Sorry but no zip rom dev will ever improve battery life without coding their own battery saving applications.
I am sure the rom is great, but don't credit battery life to it
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
imnuts said:
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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It has always been my belief that you use roms for features, not performance or battery claims.
I use Jelly Beans ROM 8 and the performance and battery life is 100 times difference. The battery with heavy usage was at 56% from 7am until 5pm. My Galaxy Note 2's performance without overclocking has been extremely fast in comparison to stock, I can now watch videos with any browser without the hour glass circle hanging for an extended period of time.
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
Basically I am reiterating what adrynalyne and imnuts said here
adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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kejar31 said:
AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
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Your Liberty rom on my old Droid X improved performance and battery life significantly, and my co-worker mentions often how her friends and family with better, newer phones are surprised that her phone runs better.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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I don't notice as much now, but with older devices bloat had a huge impact on performance and battery life. On some of my phones blockbuster was one of the biggest battery hogs and I've never once opened that app. On my Droid X with 512mb ram it would start to lag at 90mb free, it was really bad once it got down to 70mb free, and would freeze at 50mb free. Before I first rooted I had to use a app killer before I used my phone so it wouldn't lag, and if I used it more than 20 minutes or so I had to run it again to stop the lag. Once I rooted I started using an app to set the memory to always keep 90 mb or more free and didn't have lag anymore, but the apps I was using would constantly redraw but bloat apps I never used would be eating up all my ram, I debloated it and have been fine ever since.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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Those *things* you never used are backgrounded and harmless, despite perceptions.
I have never seen a battery use screen shot chock full of apps never used draining the battery. ...
Except Maps. That one is annoying.
I am fully stock still and almost 2d usage with 34 percent left.
This is with Scott's clean Rom 1.0. Maybe stock gives you the same battery performance. But this Rom is as smooth as butter.
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*** 2013-03-20 - NOTE: I'm putting this ROM review on hold. It sounds like 2.3 is coming out soon to resolve some of the problems I encountered, so it'll be more worthwhile to review that instead. *********
Background: I'm committed to trying a new ROM every week or so, and writing up my detailed thoughts on them. This is my second ROM review, after reviewing Nil's Business ICS 2.1.0 last week.
ROM: Infection 2.2
ROM base: based on Cyanogenmod 10.1
Sense?: No HTC Sense
ROM version: 2.2 - 2013-03-06
ROM Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070947
ROM installation date: 2013-03-19
Phone: HTC Rezound
Security: Unlocked and S-OFF
Previous ROM: Nil's Business ICS
Recovery: Amon-Ra 3.1.5
Installation:
copied .zip to root of SD card (file is approx 210 megs)
adb reboot recovery
Wipe All / Factory reset
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik
wipe battery
wipe cache/davlik again
Did all wipes 2x times to make sure
Flash zip. Very quick. About 2 minutes.
Installation Notes: This installation went much quicker than Nils Business. It's also a very small ROM, at 200 megs (and it includes Google apps, which is nice). After installation starts, you'll see an ASCII graphic saying [**** Infection 2.2 *****], but nothing else until it finishes installing. It then boots up into stock Android 4.2, and you continue the activation process.
Errors encountered: One huge error comes up for me right away. After using the phone for 30 seconds or so, the phone would freeze up and reboot. Turns out, the ROM comes with some pretty aggressive voltage and frequency tweaks. I had to go into Kernel Tuner, Voltage, and increment all voltages +12.5 2 times. (The min voltage for the lowest frequency is now 750). This stopped the problems. It was very scary, and it's not cool that a ROM would include aggressive settings like this. It would be better to include safe settings, and have notes on the forum thread about how to further tweak.
Gut reaction: It's pretty awesome to be on stock Android, like my Nexus 7. Everything feels really smooth and fast. And unlike Sense, Android 4.2 just looks futuristic. I do miss a few Sense things though. I do miss the Quick Settings from Sense 4.0, and I miss some of the widgets (like stock quotes, the big HTC clock, etc). But overall, this is a nice way to go.
Quick Testing:
Camera works fine
Wifi works fine
voice and SMS work
Spotify, Pocket Casts, Chrome Beta, Google Drive work fine
Coming soon:
battery life
application compatibility
phone stability
gaming
Again, if you have any questions, or are curious about this ROM, please post some questions, and I'll be happy to run any tests.
Previous ROM reviews:
Nil's Business ICS 4.0.3 v2.1.0
Thanks. I only wish you'd evaluated the 2.3 update I'm soon to drop instead of 2.2 as this has (as you've stated) quite the aggressive undervolting and is corrected in the update.
Thanks again for your evaluation and opinions.
-Neo
Nice writeup.
How long are you testing battery life for? What I've found is that generally, battery life takes about 2-3 days after flashing to settle and become consistent, that's why I'm not updating ROMs for my governor tests.
Clean flashes wipe all battery history and the charge longevity is negatively affected. Just wiping cache or dalvik doesn't do this.
Oh, and even though benchmark results rarely mean something tangible, would you consider benchmarking each ROM to see how they perform against each other?
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Purpeltendire said:
Nice writeup.
How long are you testing battery life for? What I've found is that generally, battery life takes about 2-3 days after flashing to settle and become consistent, that's why I'm not updating ROMs for my governor tests.
Clean flashes wipe all battery history and the charge longevity is negatively affected. Just wiping cache or dalvik doesn't do this.
Oh, and even though benchmark results rarely mean something tangible, would you consider benchmarking each ROM to see how they perform against each other?
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For battery life, I don't have a scientific methodology. My week has a usual pattern (M, T, Th gym in the mornings, work from home, Weds and Fri commute to the office), so I'm going to try and use it as regularly as possible, and see how often I have to plug in. Right now, the 3 ROMs I've tried (Nils, Infection and Tron) all have far superior battery life as compared to stock+root.
As for benchmarks, I think that's a great idea. Is there a set of benchmarks that you would find interesting to help measure a ROM (versus measuring device-to-device?) Maybe Quadrant and Antutu?
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As for benchmarks, I think that's a great idea. Is there a set of benchmarks that you would find interesting to help measure a ROM (versus measuring device-to-device?) Maybe Quadrant and Antutu?
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AnTuTu is definitely more thorough, but I would try both
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IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Thanks. I only wish you'd evaluated the 2.3 update I'm soon to drop instead of 2.2 as this has (as you've stated) quite the aggressive undervolting and is corrected in the update.
Thanks again for your evaluation and opinions.
-Neo
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Awesome, I'll hold off and review 2.3 when it comes out. I think I was playing around in Kernel Tweaks too much last night, and hosed the phone a bit. Looking forward to 2.3! Amazing stuff, seeing stock JB on our phones. Brilliant!
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For battery life, I don't have a scientific methodology. My week has a usual pattern (M, T, Th gym in the mornings, work from home, Weds and Fri commute to the office), so I'm going to try and use it as regularly as possible, and see how often I have to plug in. Right now, the 3 ROMs I've tried (Nils, Infection and Tron) all have far superior battery life as compared to stock+root.
As for benchmarks, I think that's a great idea. Is there a set of benchmarks that you would find interesting to help measure a ROM (versus measuring device-to-device?) Maybe Quadrant and Antutu?
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I'd favour AnTuTu, as I've used it on my device and a few others, and I know what the scores signify (somewhat). But yeah, as Neo said, why not try both? Nothing wrong with variety.
Does bluetooth work? I need that to work before I can jump to a new rom, but I'd love to get JB on my Rezound.
AndroidCraig said:
Does bluetooth work? I need that to work before I can jump to a new rom, but I'd love to get JB on my Rezound.
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Most certainly does
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