I've got myself a 9305, the first day the battery life was awful the battery graph was in free fall. Data usage for the first 6 hours was well over 1 Gb.
I have installed the usual social apps and a couple of smaller games and am now over 10gb used on my system storage. I have come from a DHD that I had the latest custom roms installed, used a2sd and merrily has 130+ apps installed.
I am not rooted yet, but my question to you is what's taking up all that space? I have looked through the internal storage and not found anything large. I do have 600 fully complete Google contacts and 1000+ Picasa images 900 tracks uploaded to Music, are the indices that large?
I will be rooting soon enough when there's a range of roms available. In the meantime any suggestions more than welcome. Thanks
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Well...130+apps installed is quite alot. Alongwith 1000 photos or whatever. Its like a penny. You can find loads of them and it wouldnt be much value until it adds upto a pound. That pound will turn into more. Just like your photos. They could be 1kb each (probably not) and as you add more it will become 1gb before you know it. Along with cache. You could try delete some cache. Or when you get root delete system apps or add a vanilla rom (plain no bloatware)
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I agree that was a lot of apps, but never hit a problem. I don't think at this rate I could install enough apps to cover two pages.
This can't be typical as I'm sure there would be an outcry.
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.
I'm going to factory reset in case this handset took a wrong turn somewhere.
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slimeruk said:
I agree that was a lot of apps, but never hit a problem. I don't think at this rate I could install enough apps to cover two pages.
This can't be typical as I'm sure there would be an outcry.
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.
I'm going to factory reset in case this handset took a wrong turn somewhere.
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Woah...2pages??? You should of hit at least 5! This is information that would of been helpful as this is nowhere near normal for an s3. do Try to reset it and see if that helps.
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Get the app disk usage and see what is using your storage up
I tried using windirstat but could only analyse the sd card.
Used Astro to browse about but couldn't see much wrong, without root I guess there's a lot hiding.
I have factory reset and installed most of the apps back and am using less than a gig at this point.
I should have done this more scientifically but it seems at this point the issue is resolved but with no real information to pass on to a future sufferer. I'll report back when the usage is similar to when I put the first post.
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Hi all;
For some reason, within the last couple of weeks, my phone has been freezing like crazy.
I uninstalled Advanced Task Killer and I use the installed Task Manager to monitor my ram usage and it's weird.
At any given time, I only have about 40-50 mb of ram left.
On average, out of 304 it shows that something is using anywhere from 230-260 mb of ram.
I shut everything down (using the task manager...shutting down level 1 and level 2) and still there is no change. I tried to not shut anything down to see if things would work themselves out, but still my ram is being eaten up.
I even went so far as to do a factory reset, hoping that this would fix the problem, but nada!
I've uninstalled every single program that I've installed within the last week or so, but still nothing.
My phone is becoming a brick and I don't know why. Next step is to call Tmobile, but seeing that my warranty is over, I"m sure that they will rape me with a replacement fee.
Any help would be most appreciated.
What rom? I'm experiencing the very same thing. Usually this happens when I've been in a rom for a very long time.
Maybe try wiping the SD card?
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What rom? I'm experiencing the very same thing. Usually this happens when I've been in a rom for a very long time.
Maybe try wiping the SD card?
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This. But only on sense roms, just install cyanogen mod, that rom never bogs down.
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I did my first ROM and battery update with NonS3ns3 V2.0. All went fine.
I was surprised to see less than 200MB of memory free after the upgrade. I thought one of the benefits of this ROM was that I would be seeing closer to 300 MB of memory free.
I am not using ADW. Currently I have Go Launcher for my front end. Could that be the issue?
Any suggestions?
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I did my first ROM and battery update with NonS3ns3 V2.0. All went fine.
I was surprised to see less than 200MB of memory free after the upgrade. I thought one of the benefits of this ROM was that I would be seeing closer to 300 MB of memory free.
I am not using ADW. Currently I have Go Launcher for my front end. Could that be the issue?
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Unused memory is wasted memory. The goal is to use as much as possible while keeping a reserve free for any app that might be opened.
Go launcher is not the issue. I have near 350-400mb on boot with CM7 and I use it (and it's set to stay in memory).
However, as stated previously, if you're not using your ram it's going to waste and I still wouldnt' care if I only had 200mb free. It's not like on windows where you have to start closing stuff to get the ram back. If you start running out, it'll just start closing apps you're not using for you. I wouldn't worry about it. As much as my ram miser instincts want to kick in (because I started out on computers when 8-16mb of ram was a lot ), I just tell that urge to STFU because it's a dumb idea.
I usually have about 240MB free right after boot and that quickly dwindles down to about 140MB to 160MB. That really is plenty for just about anything you're going to make the phone do at any particular moment. When you think about it, an entire Sense ROM couldn't fill all the memory available, much less AOSP. There's caches and other files taking up the rest of the space, which is good because that's less data pulled from eMMC. Addressing eMMC eat a lot of power. Some of the kernel devs have some good info on how their kernels work and how to tweak them to free up more or less memory. It is possible to script the kernel to much more aggressively free up memory, but typically that will hurt performance.
Thanks for the replies. I am new to Android (2 weeks) so still trying to figure out a few things. I am coming from the old school where more free memory was always a good thing so that new apps would start faster.
I am really surprised by how many apps are running in the background on there own such as Whitepages, News, XDA, Weather, Amazon App store, My Verizon, etc. Why are all these apps running? I cant see why the Amazon App store app needs to be running unless I am using it.
I have seen some tools that can be set up to automatically kill some of these apps. Is it worth it? Which one do you reccommend?
I use this and its fantastic. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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swieder711 said:
Thanks for the replies. I am new to Android (2 weeks) so still trying to figure out a few things. I am coming from the old school where more free memory was always a good thing so that new apps would start faster.
I am really surprised by how many apps are running in the background on there own such as Whitepages, News, XDA, Weather, Amazon App store, My Verizon, etc. Why are all these apps running? I cant see why the Amazon App store app needs to be running unless I am using it.
I have seen some tools that can be set up to automatically kill some of these apps. Is it worth it? Which one do you reccommend?
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Amazon apps, in general, are abuse to resources. Not sure what to tell you about killing it, because killing it is just going to make it restart again, and that's going to eat more battery than letting it just suck up space.
It's not so much the apps on Amazon as the Amazon App itself and how they implement things. Amazon has some crappy DRM for their apps (if the developer decides they want it). Basically means it checks a lot to see if you're online and allowed to use the application (but does so way more than it needs). Some apps have problems or did with working in airplane mode because of that.
It also thinks you have a new phone nearly 100% of the time when you flash a new rom or update your current one. You can log into your amazon account on your PC and find out how many "phones" you have under your account settings for their apps. Each added phone basically causes the app to flip out more and cause more problems, so deleting the extra ones is a good idea.
Other apps will not work without the Amazon store installed, which is a poorly coded piece of crap as well that won't work if you try to modify the contents of the apk.
Also, a lot of those apps running in the background are not really taking up resources, they're just keeping a bare minimum loaded into memory and the rest is cached. They do that so they can load up quickly (like the browser, maps, etc).
I've been on BAMF forever for a few days now, and I typically have only 90-100MB of free RAM. It has been absolutely smooth as can be with no lag. I can open an app, use it for a bit, and then hit home so I can open another app to check on something, and the first app stays in memory just as it should.
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Thanks for the feedback. I have removed Amazon from my Tbolt.
It still bothers me to see all those other apps being loaded in the background without asking first. It's like my 17 yo daughter leaving her stuff around the house. It just seems disrespectful of the common spaces.
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Thanks for the feedback. I have removed Amazon from my Tbolt.
It still bothers me to see all those other apps being loaded in the background without asking first. It's like my 17 yo daughter leaving her stuff around the house. It just seems disrespectful of the common spaces.
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you'll get used to it. just pretend they're not really open (well most really aren't open, so I guess you dont totally have to pretend, haha)
Is there a way to increase my RAM memory? I tried partition SD but it just increases my internal memory..
Thank you in advanced!
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maybe it have a software on market but i dont remember it
Nope. From the factory we have a misleading 512mb. I say that due to the fact that something like 170mb is automatically eaten up by the Android system. Leaving us with a meager 340mb. In the beginning kernel makers were tweaking the amount we had available but it left other things broken. We can never have more ram available without ruining other processes. And adding a new chip of ram like a pc is absolutely out of the question. May I ask why do you need more ram? Are your homescreens widget city? I've needed to compromise which widgets I use but thanks to circle launcher makes it not half bad.
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One of the things that I do when I flash a new ROM is delete all the /system/apps that I do not use. Well, delete isn't really the right word. I move them over to a folder on my external, so just in case I ever want to reinstall them, I can just move them back to /system/app, wipe Dalvik and reboot and viola they are there. Another thing that I also do is if I don't know about a certain app and what it does, I'll use TBPro to freeze it and wait for a few days to see if there are any adverse effect. If not, then I'll uninstall, If so, then I will defrost and make note.
The reason I mention this is, aside from being in widget/homescreen hell, there are system apps that you may not need/use that are running and taking up unneccessary RAM. Example: If you never use Maps, then move it out and that service (locator- I think it is) won't be running in the background.
There are times that I opened a lot of apps,some still runs in background even if i already closed it and it decreases the performance of my phone.. I have a friend who have a Samsung Ace and he was able to add up memory of his ram..I did the same thing and it just adds up on my internal SD... just wondering if that is something to do with tweaking.. by the way I'm on MIUI
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There are times that I opened a lot of apps,some still runs in background even if i already closed it and it decreases the performance of my phone.. I have a friend who have a Samsung Ace and he was able to add up memory of his ram..I did the same thing and it just adds up on my internal SD... just wondering if that is something to do with tweaking.. by the way I'm on MIUI
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Any of the "hacks" to get more memory on this phone will result in either lower performance or breaking something or both. That's why there's not anything around for "increasing" memory.
Any by the way, he probably added a swap partition on his phone, which NONE of the roms for vibrant support/have implemented.
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Well try what I do. Im using startup manager and blocking which apps are allowed to startup without me starting them. Start up cleaner is free and appears to do the same thing. Much better than freezing in titanium because they are still useable. A VERY few apps might start up anyway but who cares you will be in much better shape overall.
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Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 10% while sleeping 100 to 90 in 9 hours wtf. Here is screenshot of usage. Charging though.
Any thoughts?
Stock not rooted etc. Also when I kill all apps. Available apps. Memory used is still like over a gig.
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imablackhat said:
Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 10% while sleeping 100 to 90 in 9 hours wtf. Here is screenshot of usage. Charging though.
Any thoughts?
Stock not rooted etc. Also when I kill all apps. Available apps. Memory used is still like over a gig.
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seems normal, only thing else to do would be prolly drop mobile data while sleeping if you want a bit more out of it without hitting airplane mode.
1% an hour of idle that would make it only a 100 hour or less idle phone. I thought this idled for like 800hours
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No smartphone will last 33 days idle with wireless radios and what not turned on.
Still have over a gig of RAM used after clearing it out? Mine drops below 600MB when I clear it. Maybe you have a malicious app installed? Try an antivirus app and see if it detects anything. Personally I'd probably just factory reset to be safe.
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Yeah I have no bad apps. All normal stuff ive had on every phone. And whenever I clear ram I never go under a gb. I am stock and bloated lol. And I never reboot the phone im at 12 days uptime. Theres gotta be something hogging this though thats not showing up..
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You should reboot at least once a day.
No wayyyyy I go for uptime records im at 60 days on the s3. And when I clear ram it goes to 600. There should never be a reason to reboot
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There should never be a reason to micromanage ram like you do either, and yet...
Your micromanagement of ram is probably part of your battery drain.
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There should never be a reason to micromanage ram like you do either, and yet...
Your micromanagement of ram is probably part of your battery drain.
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This x10000000
Leave your freaking memory management to the OS. You are not smarter than your phone, you're murdering your battery life AND performance.
If you kill all apps, your phone's going to sit there for the next 90 seconds re-launching half the stuff you just closed, pegged at 100% CPU.
Even so, if you're sitting there on LTE, 1% per hour is perfectly normal.
The other thing with cell standby being as high as it is, you might be getting signal loss or excessive network switching.
Signal loss is the bane of battery life on any device.
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Yeah I have no bad apps. All normal stuff ive had on every phone. And whenever I clear ram I never go under a gb. I am stock and bloated lol. And I never reboot the phone im at 12 days uptime. Theres gotta be something hogging this though thats not showing up..
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I let my phone run down to 10% for the first time since I bought it 3 weeks ago, it was at 2 days 14 hours when I put it on the charger. It took 4.5 hours to get back to 100%. Now I know I can charge every other day instead of daily which should be better for my battery.
I agree with Travis that a reboot should be done every day, and never use a task killer, Let the phone manage your memory and quit worrying about it,
I never use a task killer. However I never reboot. I dont see a need seeing how stable it is. Unix based. Like... my other phones have had 60 days and still stable and fine. My tablets over 100 still going fine.. reboot shouldnt ever be necessary.
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I never use a task killer. However I never reboot. I dont see a need seeing how stable it is. Unix based. Like... my other phones have had 60 days and still stable and fine. My tablets over 100 still going fine.. reboot shouldnt ever be necessary.
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No, not UNIX based.
GNU/Linux based running a virtual machine for your applications, which are Java. It is stable, but not (and never will be) as stable as UNIX or even pure GNU/Linux. Java VMs in themselves aren't exactly the most stable things and despite GC can slow down at times and have other quirks. In a perfect world where every Android app dev is super dev and codes perfectly, then a reboot would never be needed.
That said, you have mentioned several times ending all tasks on your phone...you are using the built-in task manager from Samsung which is still a bad idea.
My phones not slowed down or anything though. 12 days uptime. I dont wanna restart >< how often does everyone reboot
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My phones not slowed down or anything though. 12 days uptime. I dont wanna restart >< how often does everyone reboot
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Me?
About 10 times a day, but that is because I am using the phone when building android apps and end up hot rebooting myself half the time when I screw something up
Is bragging about up time, a stat that no one cares about, (for good reason) more important then battery life and stability?
I could leave my car running for a pretty long time and brag about that. Take it to the gas station and pump the gas while still running and all. But that's a really bad idea.
The only benefit is an imaginary number that is only important to you, while sacrificing real word performance.
I restart my phone probably once or twice a day on average. Sometimes I don't restart it all, others I do maybe 3 or 4 times.
I definitely recommend a reboot everyday. Not only for android devices, computers also.
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Why are people so adamant about a reboot every day? Seriously, that was sort of necessary like 10 years ago, but modern devices really don't require it. They have enough disk/processing/memory capacity to be able to dynamically allocate resources without getting all messed up. It was a big deal when RAM was expensive and page files/swap spaces were heavily used because magnetic hard disk access is slow, especially when you have to read/write/modify a page file all the time. That's not an issue many modern PCs (I've had my page file turned off for a few years now.. well, mostly off, it's set to 16MB because some programs don't work with it off) and certainly not an issue on phones without dedicated swap space..
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see it. Especially if you're on a high-end device. I reboot my phone/computer when something requires it, such as windows updates, driver updates, needing to flash something in recovery, etc. The "once a day" mark is really arbitrary, especially in a usage-independent context. Just reboot it when it needs it.
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Just reboot it when it needs it.
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Absolutely this. Rebooting arbitrarily is 100% unnecessary.
Hey guys, long time no see. I've recently came back to Android after a longtime hiatus with iOS. Nonetheless, I've acquired a 64GB HTC One. Although they guy I got it from didn't specify it being rooted, the device has been, and I even found a rom.zip on the root of the card. I've since deleted it, however, I believe it was labeled "Stock AT&T, Rooted, Deoxed". That's a fine and whatever, as I planned on rooting the device anyway, however, I have a HUGE "Other" usage under storage. The total size of it is 14.75GB. Can someone explain what in the world is taking up that much space? I've ran an analysis using ES File Explorer, but it shows the folder taking up the most space is my music. I can't pinpoint where all this data is.
are you on 4.2.2?
I am as of now. This thread can be closed, flashing Android Revolution cleared up the issue
In case you come across this issue again, I use an app called "memory usage" that gives you a detailed breakdown of what's using what storage. Been using it for ages. Very simple to use, and it really helps track down folders and files that eat up a lot of space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsIm9yZy5yamouYW5kcm9pZC5tZW1vcnltb25pdG9yIl0.
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In case you come across this issue again, I use an app called "memory usage" that gives you a detailed breakdown of what's using what storage. Been using it for ages. Very simple to use, and it really helps track down folders and files that eat up a lot of space.
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I am having a similar issue. Almost 9Gb usage is listed under "other", this in a 32 Gb HTC One(AT&T). The memory usage app does not show anything that would contribute to this 9Gb usage.
Any ideas on what it could be?
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I am having a similar issue. Almost 9Gb usage is listed under "other", this in a 32 Gb HTC One(AT&T). The memory usage app does not show anything that would contribute to this 9Gb usage.
Any ideas on what it could be?
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Post a screen shot of what the app shows you. I've always been able to track down erroneous storage issues with it.
Did you flash 4.2 without wiping your sd card?
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I hadnt wiped the sd card.
Attaching the screenshots from the "memory usage" app as well as the "Usage" results. Apparently I goofed with my first post, the other section has 7Gb usage. Still pretty high.
Wipe your sd card like you're supposed to do
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