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So I rooted my phone got lagfix.. And mu phone has been very glitchy...getting stuck on screen.. Touch screen sometimes stops working... Sometimes I programs force close themselves... So I started removing bloatware vz crap tetris n4s.. I'm benchmarking 2155 but its like the phone ran better b4.. I've notice my ram is sometimes droping down to like 50 60 left.. So I task manager and end all apps.. And advances task killer end everything.. And my ran avl. Goes to like 136 and in five minutes its back down to 50 60.. What is going on?
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ace5198 said:
So I rooted my phone got lagfix.. And mu phone has been very glitchy...getting stuck on screen.. Touch screen sometimes stops working... Sometimes I programs force close themselves... So I started removing bloatware vz crap tetris n4s.. I'm benchmarking 2155 but its like the phone ran better b4.. I've notice my ram is sometimes droping down to like 50 60 left.. So I task manager and end all apps.. And advances task killer end everything.. And my ran avl. Goes to like 136 and in five minutes its back down to 50 60.. What is going on?
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Dont run task managers for one. And anytime you have > 40mb of ram, you should be fine. Try removing the lag fix and see where you are at after that. then try removing root. If this doesnt fix your issues take it back to VZW.
I'm not trying to argue.. But why shouldn't I use task killers? And my phone came with a task manager?
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I had the same problem, not after rooting, but after doing the lag fix. I removed the lag fix this morning, and so far it's been all smooth sailing. The screen responds as it should, no lockups, no FCs.
Im a little sluggish too after root. No force closes but laggy when scrolling. Whether its changing screens or scrolling web pages. Not too bad just annoying since it was good before root. Lag fix didnt help so I deleted it, but I may try it again. So sure of the problem.
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ok.. well im going 2 try 2 remove tthe lagfix.. should i completely unistall it or just bring up the program and select remove lag fix.. does anyone know what it does exzactly?
ace5198 said:
I'm not trying to argue.. But why shouldn't I use task killers? And my phone came with a task manager?
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This may sound confusing and its so hard to explain, especially with just text but I'll try to explain the best I can.
Let's say android os is a chalk board and when you open an app the os writes on the board, some apps he writes more than others. The more Ram you ha e the bigger your chalk board. Now when the os gets to the end of the chalk board it simply erases what it wrote at the top and writes in its place and keeps going.
When you kill the tasks you are erasing the whole board that the os wrote on. So now the os has to rewrite what you erased ( killing battery and taking time) and im assuming after you kill apps you are opening another so its trying to write with two hands (multi tasking) and making it seem to run slower.
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Also just plain rooting shouldn't do anything to make your phone run different, honestly it must be the "lag fix" that is messing things up. A good quadrant score doesn't mean a faster phone
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thanks wisenick.. that def makes sense... with your chalk board explination..lol.. and what exzactly is my quadrant score then? and what does lag fix do???
This is a good example of why quadrant scores mean very little in the real world... Im not entirely sure what the lagfix does, it obviously has to do with the on board memory and data. The memory scores in Quadrant skyrocket after the fix because whatever test it does is largely effected by the lagfix. But this doesn't mean that the phone will perform better, quite the opposite in my experience. The lag fix did nothing but make my phone lag and give me and huge quadrant score. Ill take stable real world usage and low quadrant score...
im with you on that on.. 4 sure... so do i just load up lagfix and click uninstall to get rid of it??? or is there some other way.. ive read of ppl doing it that way.. and not getting there memory back?
Removing the lag fix helped me a lot, but I still noticed the unlock screen would hang up a little. I just did a factory data reset, and wow! Everything seems to be working like a well oiled machine. And for those who are wondering, doing the data reset will not unroot your phone.
Will it bring back al ln the bloatware I got rid of? And how do I do it
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Another thing I haven't had 3g since I got rid of the bloat ware
ace5198 said:
Will it bring back al ln the bloatware I got rid of? And how do I do it
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Another thing I haven't had 3g since I got rid of the bloat ware
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No it won't bring back the bloatware, either. You will, however, lose all your widgets, and have to set up your screens, again.
Menu>Settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset
Ill give it a shot thanks man... And 3g its currently down in my area
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My Atrix has rebooted itself at least 6 times today. Once while I was trying to post this. How do I make it stop? This sucks.
I tried to search the forum but couldn't do it from my phone. Go figure.
Take it back? Software restore? I haven't had a single random reboot
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philosocrates said:
My Atrix has rebooted itself at least 6 times today. Once while I was trying to post this. How do I make it stop? This sucks.
I tried to search the forum but couldn't do it from my phone. Go figure.
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No one has really figured out what is causing the reboots. What do you have installed/Mods. One theory is if you have some after market task killer (ATK - Advanced Task Killer) it might be killing the OS causing your phone to reboot, again thats only one theory.
Yeah I havnt had a single reboot, knock on wood lol, I would say take it back
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skunz35 said:
Yeah I havnt had a single reboot, knock on wood lol, I would say take it back
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Right out of the box. Not rooted (yet) or anything. I notice that the task manager on this phone lets apps run wild unlike my "old" Droid 2. I have a hot phone with sub par battery life. I am wondering if I have a memory leak somewhere.
I have noticed apps like Pandora tend to lock up as a widget but continue to burn through memory. I am hoping for a system update soon.
philosocrates said:
Right out of the box. Not rooted (yet) or anything. I notice that the task manager on this phone lets apps run wild unlike my "old" Droid 2. I have a hot phone with sub par battery life. I am wondering if I have a memory leak somewhere.
I have noticed apps like Pandora tend to lock up as a widget but continue to burn through memory. I am hoping for a system update soon.
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I also have not had my Atrix reboot on it's own. You can try to hard reset your phone and not reload your apps to see if it's one of your apps causing the problem. But I bet you will have to get a replacement phone.
One thing that has started happening to me is when I used the speedtest.net app it'll run one good speed test the second run it'll display 50kbps down 50kbps up then it'll reboot very odd don't know why this might be
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Make sure you charge your phone full to 100% before doing a hard reset... This helped my battery life tremendously... Don't forget to backup your data
I do get random reboots, but only once in awhile (3x since I can remember from release date of Feb. 22)... I think Motorola is aware of this issue. There is an update in beta test right now so hopefully it will be out for every in the near future.
Good luck.
Is there any update to this? I am also having random reboots on 4.1.26 and 4.1.52
drock212 said:
One thing that has started happening to me is when I used the speedtest.net app it'll run one good speed test the second run it'll display 50kbps down 50kbps up then it'll reboot very odd don't know why this might be
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I noticed when my Atrix would reboot itself, it was USUALLY when GPS was in use. I know Speedtest sometimes uses GPS to determine which server to use, which might explain this? Just a guess though.
KaLiBLeeK said:
I noticed when my Atrix would reboot itself, it was USUALLY when GPS was in use.
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I've only had one reboot but messing with GPS caused it. Basically I went in and out of the navigation app 4 times. I can't remember why lol.
OP: Do you leave your gps on all the time? Maybe try turning it off for a day or 2 and see if that improves your situation.
Ive only had one reboot to date as well and it was also GPS related. I had just installed the update last night, and went into the app GPS status. it locked up and rebooted the phone. only time its ever happened...?
weird
I think the reboots are associated with polling.. if not polling then some underlying data send/receive issue.
i've also had about 3 random reboots in the past week, i'm currently running 4.1.57
My phone recently starts to reboot by itself too.
Running 4.1.57, rooted, and Webtop mod.
Most of the time it happens when I try to wake up the phone. The phone would not wake up and then reboot itself after a while.
At least with the update the issue is the phone randomly reboots when there is
1. Low Signal
2. Coming off wifi and unable to reconnect data.
Pretty much when the device loses the data connection and cannot reconnect it reboots. Been worse since the 1.57 update.
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WooWoo said:
My phone recently starts to reboot by itself too.
Most of the time it happens when I try to wake up the phone. The phone would not wake up and then reboot itself after a while.
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+1.........
when I've had random reboots, (about 2 of them since the 1.57 update) I've noticed that each time the phone was busy pulling something from teh internets, and would just jam-up. Maybe there's a buffer overload or something and the phone has to reset to clear its cache?
Then again, I know NOTHING about internets, except how to watch pr0n and dl torrents.
I too, have never had a single random reboot.
I've had 3 reboots in the past week alone. Mine usually happen at the beginning of a phone call. I'm getting sick of having to call the person back and explain that my phone just rebooted.
Anyone heard of any updates on this issue ?
ive noticed that after a day or two of my phone being on the available ram starts to drop no matter how many apps i kill (using advanced task killer). its kind of gradual but im just wondering if that app isnt killing them right or if after being on for so long phone processes i cant see start opening up. this has happened regardless of the rom im using and even on stock. only a restart resets it and i hate doing it cuz a restart drops the battery like 10%. its not a wrong ram reading the phone is noticeably slower
dak_181 said:
ive noticed that after a day or two of my phone being on the available ram starts to drop no matter how many apps i kill (using advanced task killer). its kind of gradual but im just wondering if that app isnt killing them right or if after being on for so long phone processes i cant see start opening up. this has happened regardless of the rom im using and even on stock. only a restart resets it and i hate doing it cuz a restart drops the battery like 10%. its not a wrong ram reading the phone is noticeably slower
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App Killers are useless. They are unnecessary on modern UNIX-based operating systems. Save yourself the trouble and uninstall it.
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ive noticed that after a day or two of my phone being on the available ram starts to drop no matter how many apps i kill (using advanced task killer). its kind of gradual but im just wondering if that app isnt killing them right or if after being on for so long phone processes i cant see start opening up. this has happened regardless of the rom im using and even on stock. only a restart resets it and i hate doing it cuz a restart drops the battery like 10%. its not a wrong ram reading the phone is noticeably slower
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Don't use task killers, end of story.
What i do is restart the phone every morning once i get up and let it charge back up
You really shouldn't be having ram issues with a phone with this much ram lol.
Task killers are worse for these and a lot of developers will tell you the same.
Just let the phone kill the apps and unless you are having low ram issues, like rebooting or slowness because of memory, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
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Building on what everyone has said, it also seems like you may have a rogue app that's causing a memory leak.
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Does your s3 get laggy after a few weeks of usage without a reboot or killing any apps in the task manager ? It happened to me today. I tried playing dead trigger and the game was soooo laggy. At first I thought it was due to an update of the game so I decided to stop playing it. When I launched my internet, the site seemed to froze and start lagging too. I checked my ram usage and it was below 600 but I had a lot of apps in the task manager. I then decided to reboot and everything seemed fine after. Is this normal? Should I go to task manager each time and clear it after I use an app?
Try to restart it from time to time, new update on jelly bean will come soon and things will go much faster.You can look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30626647#post30626647
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Does your s3 get laggy after a few weeks of usage without a reboot or killing any apps in the task manager ? It happened to me today. I tried playing dead trigger and the game was soooo laggy. At first I thought it was due to an update of the game so I decided to stop playing it. When I launched my internet, the site seemed to froze and start lagging too. I checked my ram usage and it was below 600 but I had a lot of apps in the task manager. I then decided to reboot and everything seemed fine after. Is this normal? Should I go to task manager each time and clear it after I use an app?
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I never tried to dont reboot the device for A FEW WEEKS....
I reboot it every 4-6 Days, because i did it in the past with all my devices and went well with it.
Reboot the device if you see slow downs and you will be fine
yea I have the same but don't think its a 'problem', you have to reboot even your computer every now and then to make it work well.
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I'm with CM9 from day 4 with my SGSIII and it never happened to me.
AntonLiv92 said:
I'm with CM9 from day 4 with my SGSIII and it never happened to me.
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Maybe the ROM autokills the running programs
NocNoc9595 said:
Does your s3 get laggy after a few weeks of usage without a reboot or killing any apps in the task manager ? It happened to me today. I tried playing dead trigger and the game was soooo laggy. At first I thought it was due to an update of the game so I decided to stop playing it. When I launched my internet, the site seemed to froze and start lagging too. I checked my ram usage and it was below 600 but I had a lot of apps in the task manager. I then decided to reboot and everything seemed fine after. Is this normal? Should I go to task manager each time and clear it after I use an app?
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2 or 3 times a week I use my phone until the battery is flat, then charge it overnight while off. Always helps it. Keeps the battery cells at low percentage alive as well.
My laptop was constantly on charge took it off and it died all the time, as the battery never got used.
Flashing roms every week. Really difficult not to reboot in a few weeks
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Maybe the ROM autokills the running programs
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Most likely...
Yeah, that would make sense the rom over time uses more and more ram! I had this problem and found this out quite be accident
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Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 10% while sleeping 100 to 90 in 9 hours wtf. Here is screenshot of usage. Charging though.
Any thoughts?
Stock not rooted etc. Also when I kill all apps. Available apps. Memory used is still like over a gig.
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imablackhat said:
Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 10% while sleeping 100 to 90 in 9 hours wtf. Here is screenshot of usage. Charging though.
Any thoughts?
Stock not rooted etc. Also when I kill all apps. Available apps. Memory used is still like over a gig.
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seems normal, only thing else to do would be prolly drop mobile data while sleeping if you want a bit more out of it without hitting airplane mode.
1% an hour of idle that would make it only a 100 hour or less idle phone. I thought this idled for like 800hours
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No smartphone will last 33 days idle with wireless radios and what not turned on.
Still have over a gig of RAM used after clearing it out? Mine drops below 600MB when I clear it. Maybe you have a malicious app installed? Try an antivirus app and see if it detects anything. Personally I'd probably just factory reset to be safe.
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Yeah I have no bad apps. All normal stuff ive had on every phone. And whenever I clear ram I never go under a gb. I am stock and bloated lol. And I never reboot the phone im at 12 days uptime. Theres gotta be something hogging this though thats not showing up..
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You should reboot at least once a day.
No wayyyyy I go for uptime records im at 60 days on the s3. And when I clear ram it goes to 600. There should never be a reason to reboot
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There should never be a reason to micromanage ram like you do either, and yet...
Your micromanagement of ram is probably part of your battery drain.
adrynalyne said:
There should never be a reason to micromanage ram like you do either, and yet...
Your micromanagement of ram is probably part of your battery drain.
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This x10000000
Leave your freaking memory management to the OS. You are not smarter than your phone, you're murdering your battery life AND performance.
If you kill all apps, your phone's going to sit there for the next 90 seconds re-launching half the stuff you just closed, pegged at 100% CPU.
Even so, if you're sitting there on LTE, 1% per hour is perfectly normal.
The other thing with cell standby being as high as it is, you might be getting signal loss or excessive network switching.
Signal loss is the bane of battery life on any device.
imablackhat said:
Yeah I have no bad apps. All normal stuff ive had on every phone. And whenever I clear ram I never go under a gb. I am stock and bloated lol. And I never reboot the phone im at 12 days uptime. Theres gotta be something hogging this though thats not showing up..
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I let my phone run down to 10% for the first time since I bought it 3 weeks ago, it was at 2 days 14 hours when I put it on the charger. It took 4.5 hours to get back to 100%. Now I know I can charge every other day instead of daily which should be better for my battery.
I agree with Travis that a reboot should be done every day, and never use a task killer, Let the phone manage your memory and quit worrying about it,
I never use a task killer. However I never reboot. I dont see a need seeing how stable it is. Unix based. Like... my other phones have had 60 days and still stable and fine. My tablets over 100 still going fine.. reboot shouldnt ever be necessary.
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imablackhat said:
I never use a task killer. However I never reboot. I dont see a need seeing how stable it is. Unix based. Like... my other phones have had 60 days and still stable and fine. My tablets over 100 still going fine.. reboot shouldnt ever be necessary.
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No, not UNIX based.
GNU/Linux based running a virtual machine for your applications, which are Java. It is stable, but not (and never will be) as stable as UNIX or even pure GNU/Linux. Java VMs in themselves aren't exactly the most stable things and despite GC can slow down at times and have other quirks. In a perfect world where every Android app dev is super dev and codes perfectly, then a reboot would never be needed.
That said, you have mentioned several times ending all tasks on your phone...you are using the built-in task manager from Samsung which is still a bad idea.
My phones not slowed down or anything though. 12 days uptime. I dont wanna restart >< how often does everyone reboot
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imablackhat said:
My phones not slowed down or anything though. 12 days uptime. I dont wanna restart >< how often does everyone reboot
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Me?
About 10 times a day, but that is because I am using the phone when building android apps and end up hot rebooting myself half the time when I screw something up
Is bragging about up time, a stat that no one cares about, (for good reason) more important then battery life and stability?
I could leave my car running for a pretty long time and brag about that. Take it to the gas station and pump the gas while still running and all. But that's a really bad idea.
The only benefit is an imaginary number that is only important to you, while sacrificing real word performance.
I restart my phone probably once or twice a day on average. Sometimes I don't restart it all, others I do maybe 3 or 4 times.
I definitely recommend a reboot everyday. Not only for android devices, computers also.
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Why are people so adamant about a reboot every day? Seriously, that was sort of necessary like 10 years ago, but modern devices really don't require it. They have enough disk/processing/memory capacity to be able to dynamically allocate resources without getting all messed up. It was a big deal when RAM was expensive and page files/swap spaces were heavily used because magnetic hard disk access is slow, especially when you have to read/write/modify a page file all the time. That's not an issue many modern PCs (I've had my page file turned off for a few years now.. well, mostly off, it's set to 16MB because some programs don't work with it off) and certainly not an issue on phones without dedicated swap space..
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see it. Especially if you're on a high-end device. I reboot my phone/computer when something requires it, such as windows updates, driver updates, needing to flash something in recovery, etc. The "once a day" mark is really arbitrary, especially in a usage-independent context. Just reboot it when it needs it.
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Just reboot it when it needs it.
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Absolutely this. Rebooting arbitrarily is 100% unnecessary.