Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 10% while sleeping 100 to 90 in 9 hours wtf. Here is screenshot of usage. Charging though.
Any thoughts?
Stock not rooted etc. Also when I kill all apps. Available apps. Memory used is still like over a gig.
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Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 10% while sleeping 100 to 90 in 9 hours wtf. Here is screenshot of usage. Charging though.
Any thoughts?
Stock not rooted etc. Also when I kill all apps. Available apps. Memory used is still like over a gig.
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seems normal, only thing else to do would be prolly drop mobile data while sleeping if you want a bit more out of it without hitting airplane mode.
1% an hour of idle that would make it only a 100 hour or less idle phone. I thought this idled for like 800hours
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No smartphone will last 33 days idle with wireless radios and what not turned on.
Still have over a gig of RAM used after clearing it out? Mine drops below 600MB when I clear it. Maybe you have a malicious app installed? Try an antivirus app and see if it detects anything. Personally I'd probably just factory reset to be safe.
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Yeah I have no bad apps. All normal stuff ive had on every phone. And whenever I clear ram I never go under a gb. I am stock and bloated lol. And I never reboot the phone im at 12 days uptime. Theres gotta be something hogging this though thats not showing up..
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You should reboot at least once a day.
No wayyyyy I go for uptime records im at 60 days on the s3. And when I clear ram it goes to 600. There should never be a reason to reboot
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There should never be a reason to micromanage ram like you do either, and yet...
Your micromanagement of ram is probably part of your battery drain.
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There should never be a reason to micromanage ram like you do either, and yet...
Your micromanagement of ram is probably part of your battery drain.
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This x10000000
Leave your freaking memory management to the OS. You are not smarter than your phone, you're murdering your battery life AND performance.
If you kill all apps, your phone's going to sit there for the next 90 seconds re-launching half the stuff you just closed, pegged at 100% CPU.
Even so, if you're sitting there on LTE, 1% per hour is perfectly normal.
The other thing with cell standby being as high as it is, you might be getting signal loss or excessive network switching.
Signal loss is the bane of battery life on any device.
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Yeah I have no bad apps. All normal stuff ive had on every phone. And whenever I clear ram I never go under a gb. I am stock and bloated lol. And I never reboot the phone im at 12 days uptime. Theres gotta be something hogging this though thats not showing up..
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I let my phone run down to 10% for the first time since I bought it 3 weeks ago, it was at 2 days 14 hours when I put it on the charger. It took 4.5 hours to get back to 100%. Now I know I can charge every other day instead of daily which should be better for my battery.
I agree with Travis that a reboot should be done every day, and never use a task killer, Let the phone manage your memory and quit worrying about it,
I never use a task killer. However I never reboot. I dont see a need seeing how stable it is. Unix based. Like... my other phones have had 60 days and still stable and fine. My tablets over 100 still going fine.. reboot shouldnt ever be necessary.
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I never use a task killer. However I never reboot. I dont see a need seeing how stable it is. Unix based. Like... my other phones have had 60 days and still stable and fine. My tablets over 100 still going fine.. reboot shouldnt ever be necessary.
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No, not UNIX based.
GNU/Linux based running a virtual machine for your applications, which are Java. It is stable, but not (and never will be) as stable as UNIX or even pure GNU/Linux. Java VMs in themselves aren't exactly the most stable things and despite GC can slow down at times and have other quirks. In a perfect world where every Android app dev is super dev and codes perfectly, then a reboot would never be needed.
That said, you have mentioned several times ending all tasks on your phone...you are using the built-in task manager from Samsung which is still a bad idea.
My phones not slowed down or anything though. 12 days uptime. I dont wanna restart >< how often does everyone reboot
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My phones not slowed down or anything though. 12 days uptime. I dont wanna restart >< how often does everyone reboot
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Me?
About 10 times a day, but that is because I am using the phone when building android apps and end up hot rebooting myself half the time when I screw something up
Is bragging about up time, a stat that no one cares about, (for good reason) more important then battery life and stability?
I could leave my car running for a pretty long time and brag about that. Take it to the gas station and pump the gas while still running and all. But that's a really bad idea.
The only benefit is an imaginary number that is only important to you, while sacrificing real word performance.
I restart my phone probably once or twice a day on average. Sometimes I don't restart it all, others I do maybe 3 or 4 times.
I definitely recommend a reboot everyday. Not only for android devices, computers also.
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Why are people so adamant about a reboot every day? Seriously, that was sort of necessary like 10 years ago, but modern devices really don't require it. They have enough disk/processing/memory capacity to be able to dynamically allocate resources without getting all messed up. It was a big deal when RAM was expensive and page files/swap spaces were heavily used because magnetic hard disk access is slow, especially when you have to read/write/modify a page file all the time. That's not an issue many modern PCs (I've had my page file turned off for a few years now.. well, mostly off, it's set to 16MB because some programs don't work with it off) and certainly not an issue on phones without dedicated swap space..
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see it. Especially if you're on a high-end device. I reboot my phone/computer when something requires it, such as windows updates, driver updates, needing to flash something in recovery, etc. The "once a day" mark is really arbitrary, especially in a usage-independent context. Just reboot it when it needs it.
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Absolutely this. Rebooting arbitrarily is 100% unnecessary.
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Hello,
I've had my GS II for about a week, and the battery life has been pretty stellar, except for days where I work at the office. For some reason, there, the battery drains at about 2x the rate than in other areas. A very similar thing happened with my Captivate, but the battery lasts longer with the GS II.
However, today, at around 1PM, my phone started heating up so that it was hot to the touch, and the battery drained 60% in about 1.5 hours. Something went terribly wrong. And even plugged in, it was draining faster than it could charge!
How can I find out what happened? I don't want this to happen again.
The only thing I did was listen to a podcast with BeyondPod, but I do that every day at work over lunch. So, nothing new in my utilization.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
(AT&T SG II, stock, unrooted)
May be the GPS - same experience here.
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Thanks, but GPS was not on. Neither was WiFi. Just Bluetooth. It's the same settings I have every day at work, because Tasker sets my settings automatically based on cell tower location.
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Was there anything else in your battery usage stats?
What about wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats?
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday. I am stock rooted.
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Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
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Unfortunately, AOS often falsely reports high. Sometimes high AOS usage is fine, sometimes it's not.
I've gotten some of my best battery life with AOS at 60%.
Can't tell what happened to you without some statistics.
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Yeah, this sounds very similar to what happened to me, but with stock ROM.
Two follow-on questions:
1. If it's ROM-independent, then could it be something in the hardware that's short-circuiting? Like... the cellular chipset, or perhaps the modem firmware?
2. Can you explain what about CM 7.1 is so superior to the stock rom, which I'm finding pretty fantastic at the moment?
Thanks,
Jon
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No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can go back in history, can I? It's a new day, with a new charge... and I'm imagining that the battery meters reflect today's activity, not yesterday's disaster...
Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
i never had battery drain but once in a while I do notice my phone gets hot on the back cover in between the SGS logo and the camera while I'm using it. If I put it down for a bit, it cools off. I figured it was just hot from use and I never thought anything more of it.
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Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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What make you think GS2 is any better than other Android phones in this regard? Anyone can make a mistake or two in programming and it is impossible to write bug free code.
Remember, latest Android Gingerbread OS is 2.3.7 and we are at 2.3.4. There are a lot of bug fixes (and new bugs) in each incremental release from Google alone. On top of that you have Samsung's customization code and various apps you installed.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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You still need to convince them, trust me.
Anyways..here is what I was getting at last night.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-os-what-is-it/
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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It does happen to iPhones for sure. We switched from blackberry devices to the iPhone, at work, three months ago. We had five different devices experience similar heat and battery issues. The cause is typically from apps or services that sync with online data.
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Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from Better Battery Stats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Digil said:
I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from BatteryStats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Believe you are correct. There were issues on the Samsung Infuse and even the international SGS3 for a while... it was referred to as 'memory leak.' Has been worked out by devs on XDA. You can put memory leak in the XDA search above... it's above my pay grade.
Edit: It's great to see another RD here... hope you will reconsider keeping the phone and stay !!
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
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I always install GNow, love the inverted version.
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I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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I would be less inclined to believe it is a faulty measure if we had a different ROM not built off stock (AOKP/CM10) that could produce different values. However, I seriously doubt anything built into either of the two custom ROM's is geared toward normalizing that reading. That's why they are both the same as the stock AndroidOS percentages. Jivy is probably right that it's a kernel issue. With the size battery we have, imagine the potential if it is a true reading (androidOS out-of-control) and we can get it under control down the road. We're talking double the current best battery life you've ever had on this phone at the very least.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
The wakelock that keeps the phone awake during background data transfer (screen off) lasts 6 seconds (I am guessing it does it in multiples of 6s) regardless of how long the sync takes. Everytime email, facebook, gmail, drive, picasa, twitter, g+, google maps, ebay, calendar, contacts.. whatever wakes the phone to check something, it will be a minimum of 6 seconds.. This adds up over the course of the day and it is counted in the Android OS. Shut down syncs you don't absolutely want/need and this number will go down. All phones with the Snapdragon S4 Pro has it, especially the Nexus4. It seems they've done some kernel work to fix/reduce it but I havent really looked into it since I don't have that phone. I've seen complaints in the Droid DNA forum as well.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
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This. EBay for me too. BetterBatteryStats is your friend.
Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Coming from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447&page=835
I have been having battery drain issues on beans town ROM ever since i loaded Build 7 (currently on build 10). 20% battery drop in 4 hours of sleep (even with the Wifi and 4G off)
I am trying to determine what is causing it. I have screen capture of the warnings below and the alarm screen is blank in Better Battery Stats- The other 2 attachments are from yesterday
I have Google location off.
I am strongly considering just going back to stock at this point- the drain is not acceptable.
Stock got 2 days with normal use (I have responded to other posts where they say it depends etc etc- understand that but- big but- normal use on stock for 24 hours took it down to maybe 55%- i can drop to 55% in 8-9 hours with the phone unused in sleep on this ROM )
You may not want to come off with attitude of you want people to help. It sounds like that in op.
Two things I notice. First your wifi is on in those shots. Service to be honest nothing seems abnormal
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Except you used your phone so it wasn't just sitting. How long are those phone calls for? By the way are you in a bad signal area?
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You may not want to come off with attitude of you want people to help. It sounds like that in op.
Two things I notice. First your wifi is on in those shots. Service to be honest nothing seems abnormal
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Except you used your phone so it wasn't just sitting. How long are those phone calls for? By the way are you in a bad signal area?
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Hi- no attitude but I am wondering if I am the only one seeing this or not. I realize this is "for free" support and people help here because they love the technology or just want to help- so i appreciate that- sorry if I gave that impression.
I live in a heavy populated area in Atlanta with strong signal, even in the house (at least 3bars). the calls i think were 1 min 47 seconds if i recall correctly. regarding Wifi- i may have turned it back on right before the screen shot as I saw the battery still going down at pretty much the same rate)
I am wondering if it is an inherent HW problem with either the battery or something with the air interface- motherboard
Based on the screenshots, your phone was on for just under 5 hours, and wifi was on for 4.5 hrs of that time, so 90% of the time. If wifi was on, but not connected and was scanning, I could see that causing significant drain. Also, do you have any theme installed? Any other changes made to the ROM itself?
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Based on the screenshots, your phone was on for just under 5 hours, and wifi was on for 4.5 hrs of that time, so 90% of the time. If wifi was on, but not connected and was scanning, I could see that causing significant drain. Also, do you have any theme installed? Any other changes made to the ROM itself?
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I have wifi set to turn off when phone is asleep- when i wake the phone, I see that wifi is off and it will reconnect to the AP at my house.
I lost some train of thought when switching threads but i believe Wifi was off (I know it shows on in the screenshot)- which makes me think something is amiss here in HW. that is why i am pretty sure i turned off all interfaces last night and left them off.
I also have power saving mode on for the phone.
The phone is at 51% currently- I will place it back on charger to take it to 100% then turn off all air interfaces and see what happens
That a good plan?
Go into your apps and clear the data on wifi share... why if your phone is sleeping it needs to be using wifi 58 percent of the time? ...this tells me an app is waking the phone...so look and see what is causing the most wake locks...once you find the app causing the most wake locks... Delete it and reinstall... Then go into the settings of that app and set your sync to a reasonable interval... Last of all go have three hours of coffee at star bucks and use their wifi to check and see if your modem is causing the problem...
Other solutions....use sd maid and clean all system, apps, and ghost files..
Do a davlik and cache wipe in recovery
And last effort do a davlik and cache wipe with a reinstall of your rom...
Keep in mind after each step your phone will use excessive battery because it will be adding files and moving things around... SO patience is important when cleaning and installing because it may take a few full discharges and charges before it settles down and gives you a good idea of what your battery life will be like
Also I am wondering... Two days with your phone on stock... But a whole day while rom'd...i am wondering...did you play with you phone as much when stock?... I know I didn't... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Quick thing have you wiped both caches and fixed permissions? Sometimes that will do wonders when the phone is acting up.
Also I was just pointing out it sounded like you were giving attitude. I actually figured you were just frustrated at this point. I've seen the posts in beans thread. So I wanted you to clarify before getting flamed.
The community will get this fixed. Beans had great battery life when I ran it before switching back to Eclipse so it's something going in on your phone.
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I have a great idea, get rid of the task killer or set it to manual. Task killers will destroy your battery life if set to auto kill.
Also do you have an SD card? Take it out for a few hours and see what the battery life is like. If it gets better then copy everything to your computer and format the card and copy it back.
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Go into your apps and clear the data on wifi share... why if your phone is sleeping it needs to be using wifi 58 percent of the time? ...this tells me an app is waking the phone...so look and see what is causing the most wake locks...once you find the app causing the most wake locks... Delete it and reinstall... Then go into the settings of that app and set your sync to a reasonable interval... Last of all go have three hours of coffee at star bucks and use their wifi to check and see if your modem is causing the problem...
Other solutions....use sd maid and clean all system, apps, and ghost files..
Do a davlik and cache wipe in recovery
And last effort do a davlik and cache wipe with a reinstall of your rom...
Keep in mind after each step your phone will use excessive battery because it will be adding files and moving things around... SO patience is important when cleaning and installing because it may take a few full discharges and charges before it settles down and gives you a good idea of what your battery life will be like
Also I am wondering... Two days with your phone on stock... But a whole day while rom'd...i am wondering...did you play with you phone as much when stock?... I know I didn't... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Thanks for the pointers. I will respond to all the questions ( I think) here
I have done this previously (did not help)- suggested also by another response
1. Wiped Davlik cache and fix permissions
2. upgraded to 2.4.3 TWRP from 2.3.2
3. Wiped Davlik cache and fix permissions again (twice on 2.4.3)
4. I have not done anything with regard to the SD card- I will look at that after looking at the Wifi closer
In Wifi- I can see wifi direct share process in all in one toolbox but do not see an app- I would assume wifi is part of the kernel. I am not sure how to clean the cache or delete/reinstall the wifi direct share unless it's a .apk hanging around outside the /system/apps folder-update- i found it- cleared data and will let rthe phone run for a few hours
I did not play around with the Stock build from VZW- it was 2 days right out of the box with "normal" call use.
The reason I think it's a HW issue is that this si a replacement phone for the one the girlfriend cracked after having a new one from VZW for 20 days. That was the phone that could go 2 days on stock unaltered VZW. This I am sure is a refurb from the repair depot. I placed Beanstown 7 on it right after I got it (I practiced unlocking on the cracked original phone)
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I have a great idea, get rid of the task killer or set it to manual. Task killers will destroy your battery life if set to auto kill.
Also do you have an SD card? Take it out for a few hours and see what the battery life is like. If it gets better then copy everything to your computer and format the card and copy it back.
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Thanks for suggestion- Advanced Task Killer is set to disable (no auto kill already). I will look at SD card once i look at Wifi
Update this morning
Girlfriend used phone for maybe 30 minutes or so this morning. I have attached the better battery Stats
I noticed that Wifi is on and running most of the time- even though it is set to turn off when phone sleeps. Is the next step then to Starbucks or can I simply turn Wifi off
When i loaded Build10, I followed the instructions.
1. Wipe Data- I did not format data
2. Factory reset
3. Wipe Davlivk Cache and cache
4. Installed ROM
Manually turn off wifi. Also do you have another battery monitor app besides bbs? Ultimately though your phone is going into deep sleep so I'm not sure what going on
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Manually turn off wifi. Also do you have another battery monitor app besides bbs? Ultimately though your phone is going into deep sleep so I'm not sure what going on
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Ok will do- I do not have another app but happy to buy/try another one. I do have another battery as well.
She's out with the phone for a bit- do I need to fully charge and then turn off wifi or can I reset the battery stats (assume I can) and just turn off wifi?
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Ok will do- I do not have another app but happy to buy/try another one. I do have another battery as well.
She's out with the phone for a bit- do I need to fully charge and then turn off wifi or can I reset the battery stats (assume I can) and just turn off wifi?
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Thought this was interesting- how can i fidn out what is with all the awakes
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Thought this was interesting- how can i fidn out what is with all the awakes
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I turned Wifi off battery is 52% @ 4:06pm EST
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I turned Wifi off battery is 52% @ 4:06pm EST
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Is that better? Bbs should tell you what's keeping it awake. I asked about sket monitor because I was wondering what your 1 partial wake locks was.
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Is that better? Bbs should tell you what's keeping it awake. I asked about sket monitor because I was wondering what your 1 partial wake locks was.
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Sorry let me try again- I plugged it back in to capture the UI stop screenshot and left it in
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Sorry let me try again- I plugged it back in to capture the UI stop screenshot and left it in
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Screenshot- just started happening today
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Screenshot- just started happening today
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Known issue I guess you've just been fortunate
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Just my two cents...i always use titanium or romtoolbox to delete maps as google maps was draining my battery.. Also kernel can make a difference..location servives and maps keeps wifi searching and almost constantly in use and if services on and wifi off they will keep trying to reconnect. I feel running maps is a battery waste. If i need directions i will google address. Call me old fashioned but ill read,read,understand the set my path..i prefer battery life
I get almost 48 hrs out of battery with 5hrs screen...only 24 with closer to 9hrs sscreen on, was half that with locations and maps running
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So I just got my HTC one on Sunday night. The first thing I did is let the battery charge up and then drained it to less than 3% and recharged. Ive been getting horrible battery usage since Sunday and am starting to worry that I might have a hw issue. For example, today I woke up at 5:30 and unplugged my phone. Its now 10:15 and I am at less than 30% with less than 30min of screen time (in battery save mode). Should I just go back and replace with my 30 day warranty? Or should I try to calibrate it? I have yet to root it because I just got it, so no custom kernels or roms that might be draining it. The idle and HTC Sense seem to be the programs draining it the worst based on the stock battery usage report.
Give it a few cycles
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I don't know the exact mechanics of it but battery life almost always improves after using it for a little while, that's the way phones work
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Wow, that's a lot. You may want to check apps running in the background. The culprit on mine is the Kernel and there's nothing I can do about it.
I'm actually getting pretty much the same battery life. Prior to the update my average was 13 hrs. 4 hrs screen time. All on stock.
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I've never heard of the whole settling of the battery with my previous phones. Usually just the whole make sure to drain it all the way the first time and get a full charge, then it would be good. That being said, I could very well be wrong and you may be right, but if it is a hardware issue I would like to return before its too late
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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a battery is not software
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a battery is not software
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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i'm not 100% sure but my assumption would be that, new ROMs change your phone entirely. they assign different values to resources, it pretty much changes everything that your battery has grown custom to, so maybe the battery needs to settle in and get used to how resources are now being used.
i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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Yeah, this is obviously not a good thing
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Me the same. Andoird system has the most battery consumption...! Any solution?
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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It's a reported problem with several devices from what I've researched.the nexus 4 and 7 have had the same issues.Sprint has acknowledged the issue also.now it's just a waiting game.
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When I updated to 4.3 my battery life was horrible. I would get 3 hours and it was dead. I factory reset and all is well! I've been on battery for 11 hours and have 40% left!
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As people have said, you have to let it go through a few cycles before it proforms stably. When I first got mine it was the same situation you describe, couldn't even make it through half a day without charging. Without changing anything (seriously, everything is still stock), that increased to regularly getting 40hrs per charge with about 2hrs screen on time. I could claim that the software is learning or that the hardware handling the battery is improving, but I don't know, I just know that this is a pretty universal phenomenon and it is real. And for me 4.3 had only made it better (not much though, but definitely not worse).
Just give it time, it's about to get good
Also, I can tell you from my tests earlier on that wifi was one of my biggest battery drains, so I just don't use it at all now. But you could just get in the habit of turning it off at certain times or get tasker to handle that). Also power saver is useful, I do notice it slow down but only in the text message app, everything else is still very smooth and fast. And yes, even now the Android system averages 80% of total drain for me. A large portion of that is wakelocks, and there's lots of excellent tutorials on xda about how to find and deal with some of them. Personally I've made my peace with the ones I encounter, so although people tell me losing 5-8%overnight to them is too much, I'm fine with that. Again, much better now than my initial use led me to believe.
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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Makes sense. Thanks
If it's draining as fast as you say suggestion is charge it up, put it in airplane mode over night. If it still drains, bring it back for a replacement.
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The G2 has a fantastic battery already, why not make it even better?
I like to see how far I can push this phone's battery. In no way does that mean that you need too as well, but for those of you that do want a few more hours or another day, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
After I've spent time learning the quirks of this phone, and most of its respective ROMs, I've come up with quite a few tricks for improving battery life, some specific to this phone, some just in android general. I now get average 3-4 days battery life, when I use the phone quite often during the day all day long.
It is your personal preference on how much of android's background services that you use compared to apps. This is only suggestions for the users that want to improve battery life.
Heres some of the simplest questions you can ask yourself when you go through the settings center:
Do I really need this feature enabled? Do I use it often? Even if I do occasionaly use it, is it that much of a pain to just turn on when I need it?
Do I really need GPS on 24/7? How often do I really use GPS?
How many apps do I need running in the background?
Do I need to keep autobright on, or keep the screen super bright?
That being said, here are some of the simple things that Ive done.
I keep everything off unless I use it every day.
I keep GPS off 24/7, I never use it.
Out of habit, I always close all apps.
I keep autobright off and keep the screen on 14 brightness. Unless Im right outside in the sun its easy to see, and if I am I can just turn it up with the quick setting.
Some of the more advanced stuff I do, that completely varies on your ROM:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
Currently Im using CleanROM, I switch between it and Cyanogen about once a week, just cant make up my mind on stability v. features, but on CleanROM, some of the stuff I have currently froze
Nearly anything involving Verizon, the carrier APKs are massive bloatware.
I disabled a lot of google services, some people may rely on these, personally I dont, the biggest two google apps I use are chrome and Gmail.
If your on a stock based ROM, disable the LG services you dont use. Textlink wastes a huge amount of power, as does QSlide.
(This applies alot more to carrier based roms than it does Cyanogen/AOSP, but even they do have a few unneccesary servcices.) Be careful when you are touching system services, if you dont know what one does, a google on its function is helpful.
Use a different launcher. Excluding the stock google launcher, most factory launchers are very inefficient, LG Home is no exception. Personally, I use SmartLauncher, a very light and very nice looking launcher with a fantastic layout. Nova I know is very light on resources aswell.
The more widgets you have cluttering your screen, the more power they will waste.
I can personally confirm myself that Kitkat based roms have incredible battery life after they settle in for a few days, the kernel level improvements brought with KitKat are very noticable. Currently Gummy Rom and three CM11 builds exist for KitKat, why not give them a try?
If you have unusually high battery usage, check your wakelocks, and see what exactly is using all the power, and you can disable/turn it off and remove that battery drain.
On a final note, comeon guys turn your phones off at night. I have yet to hear a good reason to leave it running over night, all it does is waste power and most commonly let the notification light run for 8 hours. If you use your phone as a alarm, you could turn on airplain mode overnight.
These are just some of the things that I do, if you have any more suggestions, feel free to post them or message me, I'll be glad to add them to the list.
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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shahkam said:
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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polaric said:
What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
G1_enthusiast said:
U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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I only buy a new phone when Verizon let's me, I just enjoy seeing how far I can push each phone's battery. Some people go crazy on theming, I go crazy on battery life. A few people wondered what I did, so I just made this.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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quachhanthanh said:
I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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So u should make a thread to bring out list junk apps of android. That is more helpful.
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polaric said:
I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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GPS is not pointless, it uses for Facebook, navigation, weather update, yelp and a lot of apps.. what you deem is pointless is different than everyone...your reason to own a smartphone is seriously wrong in so many ways...just saying man but its your money.
Honestly people should just enjoy the phone rather than trying to make it last longer. If your phone can make it through the day then consider that a successful phone.
I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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Great write up. Thanks for sharing ??
I have just clocked it to 1,5 and frezeed a few LG stuff. I'm always from 5 hour screentime and up. If I just reading a weekend between 8 and 9 [one time ]
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How do u freez the apps?
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Instead of turning it OFF for the night, turn ON Aeroplane mode. That consumes less energy, than a turn off and on. This also solves the alarm problem, and no email or whatsoever shall wake you up at while you sleep
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3thman said:
How do u freez the apps?
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Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks. I found this thread very useful
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I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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It completely depends on how often said application is opened, and what it does while idle. I know out of hand while I'm at work I see several people with 3-4 games left open on their phone, this is more what I was reffering too.
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polaric said:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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jesssiii said:
Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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I wrote this late last night, so I didnt have time to look through the list of everything I froze, but I'll add it to the OP in the next few minutes since I have a few free moments.