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My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
bam88 said:
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Mate same here. I have also lock ups with some apps like messaging and browser as well. Tsk!
bam88 said:
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Go into settings, accessibility and use the process manager. Use it and see if you still have the problem. Chances are that it maybe ram or software.
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One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
There is a simple rule in computing - more memory (more resources of any kind) never hurt. Yes, people can quote all the articles they want about mobile OS's not needing that much ram, but -
- Android is not nearly as optimized as WP7/iOS
- Android likes to keep more apps open, it was designed to multitask
- over the next 2 years, memory demands will increase. Every version of Android uses more ram
Trust me, you won't see any high end Android phones with less than 1.5GB ram very soon.
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
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You speak the truth.
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rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I think they like selling more phones more regularly
rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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How would they make money from mobile sales if you didn't "need" to buy their new phone in 6 months?
EVERY phone company would be thinking about their next model months before the latest phone has even hit the shelves.
They give you what you need not what you will need
They should develop 'virtual memory' like in windows and make use of the 16gb,
tadas_max said:
One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
sent from the other side of my galaxy
rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
Gusta_HR said:
I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
sent from the other side of my galaxy
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Same thing is happening to Galaxy S III as well! Not a dealbreaker, but still bothers me a bit. The thing is, I don't remember this happening to my Galaxy S II.
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
to
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
and all should be good.
Don't forget to reboot afterwards, otherwise the setting won't be applied.
my S2 hang when open game that use feint.. i think i doesn't support so many app to be open frequently.. or maybe i used gb4.03 and used so many flash app
Guys I'm facing the same problem. When I received my new phone, it was working beautifully. During the next 2-3 days, I tired using all the features and apps like drop box, ChatOn, S Voice, Voice cmds and all other frills. Then I downloaded few apps like Ultra Keyboard, SwiftKeyboard Trial, Ex Dialer, Dolphin Browser HD. Done some heavy surfing, downloaded mails and stuff like that and my phone started to lag heavily. TouchWiz started to redraw every time. Then I had a look at the available RAM. First of all it was only 780 out of 1GB and then free was only 23 MB. Then I looked into the list of cached processes and it was a long list. I restarted my phone, disabled most of the apps, downloaded Apex launcher, set the debugging option to limit background processes to 4 and my RAM is normally around 150-200 MB free. But I can see that it is depleting. Also on the Apex launcher, it happened that while returning from my G Talk, then screen went black for almost 5-7 seconds as if the phone froze. But it came out. I re-checked the memory and it was around 158MB. So I don't know why this happened but it is frustrating to have a top notch device and this kind of experience. Any suggestions?
Hotobu said:
I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
Tectas said:
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
to
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
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I was just about to type the exact same thing. I'm in the process of trying it out, seems to be working.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
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That makes no ****ing sense.
(I only "thanked" you by accident. If I could unthank you twice and leave you at -1 I would)
that' s crazy how ICS eat the RAM memory... My phone got only 780 Mo, I don't understand why... Well, in function with no special apply, the RAM is ever between 80% and 90% full..
For a "wonderfull" device and the price we got, I feel a little disapointed
So, I rooted it and install the "classicals top root app" but keep the rom and wait for a stable one.. All works good, no craches...
If someone know how to reduce the appetite of the ICS... Thx
PS: look for the app called "AppAware", amazin' social app who talks about app !!!
You will easily see the most wanted app as Flipboard, Rom Toolbox, LBE Privacy Guard, Mobile odin, Camera ZOOM FX...
I am new so i don't talk about the alternative markets fully free for paid app
sebnower said:
that' s crazy how ICS eat the RAM memory... My phone got only 780 Mo, I don't understand why... Well, in function with no special apply, the RAM is ever between 80% and 90% full..
For a "wonderfull" device and the price we got, I feel a little disapointed
So, I rooted it and install the "classicals top root app" but keep the rom and wait for a stable one.. All works good, no craches...
If someone know how to reduce the appetite of the ICS... Thx
PS: look for the app called "AppAware", amazin' social app who talks about app !!!
You will easily see the most wanted app as Flipboard, Rom Toolbox, LBE Privacy Guard, Mobile odin, Camera ZOOM FX...
I am new so i don't talk about the alternative markets fully free for paid app
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Read this article to educate yourself. Then let this topic die please.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
I just wanted to have more memory on my galaxy 3 witch only has 780 real megabytes instead of 1 gigabyte. Samsung did not respond to my questions how to get the missing 244 megabytes back. See on google for Samsung Memory Scam.
Than I found Swapper:
Swapper for root user is an Android application that enable you to create, add and manage Swap memory file without swap partition on SD.
You can reconfigure swap file size after his creation.
Android >= 1.6. Need Root and kernel swap support. NO Need swap partition on SD!
This program do not partition the SD card.
to check if ok, type 'free' on Terminal app!
follow Swapper for Root developer on twitter @azatoth77 or Google+ ........
Support Swapper for root user with a donation!
Enjoy!
........
Installed it on my old galaxy 2, ran it, granted rights, selected turn off phone from the powertbutton menu. Galaxy 2 will not turn on again. Phone does nothing when connecting charger. No lights, no sound, nothing.
People will say its my own mistake but I disagree. Samsung sold me a phone the galaxy 3 lying it has 1 gigabyte RAM but it was not true and I needed the memory for browsing so I took resort to test swap on a rooted galaxy 2.
Samsung scammed me so I was forced to try an application like Swapper. You know how expensive Samsung phones are. Samsung was lying about true specifications of memory.
I was involuntary stimulated to try an application like Swapper because Samsung sold me the Galaxy 3 lying it had 1 gigabyte RAM. It took me so much money, a bricjed galaxy 2 and I will be forced to buy a phone with true 1 gigabyte RAM. So I loose over $1500 only because Samsung lied to me in the specifications of the Galaxy 3.
Noone lied to you,you're just technological monster
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voornaam3884 said:
I just wanted to have more memory on my galaxy 3 witch only has 780 real megabytes instead of 1 gigabyte. Samsung did not respond to my questions how to get the missing 244 megabytes back. See on google for Samsung Memory Scam.
Than I found Swapper:
Swapper for root user is an Android application that enable you to create, add and manage Swap memory file without swap partition on SD.
You can reconfigure swap file size after his creation.
Android >= 1.6. Need Root and kernel swap support. NO Need swap partition on SD!
This program do not partition the SD card.
to check if ok, type 'free' on Terminal app!
follow Swapper for Root developer on twitter @azatoth77 or Google+ ........
Support Swapper for root user with a donation!
Enjoy!
........
Installed it on my old galaxy 2, ran it, granted rights, selected turn off phone from the powertbutton menu. Galaxy 2 will not turn on again. Phone does nothing when connecting charger. No lights, no sound, nothing.
People will say its my own mistake but I disagree. Samsung sold me a phone the galaxy 3 lying it has 1 gigabyte RAM but it was not true and I needed the memory for browsing so I took resort to test swap on a rooted galaxy 2.
Samsung scammed me so I was forced to try an application like Swapper. You know how expensive Samsung phones are. Samsung was lying about true specifications of memory.
I was involuntary stimulated to try an application like Swapper because Samsung sold me the Galaxy 3 lying it had 1 gigabyte RAM. It took me so much money, a bricjed galaxy 2 and I will be forced to buy a phone with true 1 gigabyte RAM. So I loose over $1500 only because Samsung lied to me in the specifications of the Galaxy 3.
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Nobody scammed you. You're just stupid and ignorant. Now please get out of this forum, this place doesnt belong to ignorant people like you.
wooow. Come on guys, more respect. Even though he wasn't very smart on this, we need to respect. Here we are, to learn, take a slap on the face and learn. If someone does anything very stupid, you don't have the right to be this disrespectful. That's a community, where everyone has the right to learn and do shi&.
some people deserve,,, some dont,,,
you should sue ´em :good::good:
they also lied about the sgs2 specifications :crying:
you should also consider to sue the one who sold yo pc bcz of the the lack of memory ..
lol :silly:
The missing RAM amount is actually dedicated to the video. As a vRAM..
Trust me, when they say there is 1 Go, there is, on hardware side.
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Paradoxxx said:
The missing RAM amount is actually dedicated to the video. As a vRAM..
Trust me, when they say there is 1 Go, there is, on hardware side.
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Heheheheheuhuhuhhuuhu!!!! This id xda forum????
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I love liars!
lmao, this thread is hilarious
spookhc said:
Noone lied to you,you're just technological monster
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hehe monster was kinda mean but funny on the other hand
marcellocord said:
wooow. Come on guys, more respect. Even though he wasn't very smart on this, we need to respect. Here we are, to learn, take a slap on the face and learn. If someone does anything very stupid, you don't have the right to be this disrespectful. That's a community, where everyone has the right to learn and do shi&.
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Exactly marcellocord, very well said. Everybody was a noob at the beginning.
Paradoxxx said:
The missing RAM amount is actually dedicated to the video. As a vRAM..
Trust me, when they say there is 1 Go, there is, on hardware side.
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Yup, this is how it is on every handset I guess. My former Galaxy R i9103, had also 1GB of RAM but just approx. 740 MB - "user available".
I don't think I got everything the OP posted but I guess he mixed up RAM with storage ?
If I was paranoid I'd think all these dudes with idiotic posts are just part of Apple's marketing plot.
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Yeah... 1GB of physical RAM clearly does not guarantee that all of it is available as user memory.
It is very common for Android phones to have large chunks of reserved memory for stuff like the GPU, video codecs, etc.
I think we have on the order of 64MB reserved just for the hardware video decoder.
Samsung scammed me so I was forced to try an application like Swapper. You know how expensive Samsung phones are. Samsung was lying about true specifications of memory.
I was involuntary stimulated to try an application like Swapper because Samsung sold me the Galaxy 3 lying it had 1 gigabyte RAM. It took me so much money, a bricjed galaxy 2 and I will be forced to buy a phone with true 1 gigabyte RAM. So I loose over $1500 only because Samsung lied to me in the specifications of the Galaxy 3.
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My message to the OP would be: NEVER point your finger at someone(In this case Samsung), if you're not pretty damn sure you are speaking proven facts, instead of things "you think" that are the truth...
And if you choose to write about things you don't know for certain, don't put them on a public forum like XDA, where many people know better then you do.
Don't place your little story as a proven statement if you are not sure it is the case. Better would have been to place some question marks -(?)- here and there.
But best would have been to kept on "thinking" your own believes instead of writing them down here. They result in your topic now being spammed by people laughing at you.
I'm sure that wasn't your intention when you started this topic.
I could easily make a phychological profile on the OP, just because of his way of writing. But I will spare you guys on that one, after all we are on a Android development forum, lollzzzzzz
Ps: I'm glad you didn't open this topic in development section.
There's a reason after all why people with less then 10 posts cannot post in dev section...
Hey voornaam3884... really man... how much is Apple paying you?
Entropy512 said:
Yeah... 1GB of physical RAM clearly does not guarantee that all of it is available as user memory.
It is very common for Android phones to have large chunks of reserved memory for stuff like the GPU, video codecs, etc.
I think we have on the order of 64MB reserved just for the hardware video decoder.
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I hate that So, Samsung says: you have 1GB of RAM to run everything you want with multitasking, you have 16GB to store whatever you want. But they forget to say: but you will only have 830~MB RAM free, the rest will supply other hardwares, you will have only 11.5GB storage free because the rest is to system/data/...
TheATHEiST said:
lmao, this thread is hilarious
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OMG :good: :victory:
this made me :crying:
marcellocord said:
I hate that So, Samsung says: you have 1GB of RAM to run everything you want with multitasking, you have 16GB to store whatever you want. But they forget to say: but you will only have 830~MB RAM free, the rest will supply other hardwares, you will have only 11.5GB storage free because the rest is to system/data/...
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Err, I'm affraid it is the same as every storage solutions.
Listen, When you buy let's say a 160Gbytes HDD.
Format it, BOUM 149 Go More or less. Scammed? Nope. Why? Cause 1Go != 1000mo but 1024.
160 Gib= 160.000.000.000 octets
1 Gb = 2^30 Bytes (which is 1.073.741.824 Bytes).
160.000.000.000 / 1.073.741.824 = 149,01 Go.
This is the difference between Binary Base and Our base.
And about Sammy and 16Gbytes... Well. They could have made a 4Go Chip (2Go would have been enough even for their bloated Crapwizz), and provide another chip as "storage". So instead of 11.5Gbytes, you would have 15 +/- (not sure about the proportions). But 16Gbytes of storage, is Technically true.
But heh, every company does the same. Apple, HTC etc etc etc...
And about the RAM, Entropy explained it a wayyyy better than I did. :highfive:
No one scammed you.
No one scammed you, no one forced you to root your phone, neither to mess with swap. All the devices needs some reserved resources to work.
When you root your phone, or install another ROM, without Kies or some Samsung official application, you're doing it by your own risk.
I don't agree with the OP, however, it would be cool if the companies actually could make enough memory that when the device is shipped and you check "about phone" and you see 1024MB of ram <-- EPIC!!
But it doesn't matter ^^ I think 700mb of ram is more than enough for the average user :]
gSorry for opening a new thread and spammimg guys but i need your help...I own n Xperia Mini (st15i) and i want to sell that and buy Xperia U (st25i)....is this change worth? Shall i go for this phone or better wait? In addition, if someone could mention problems of Xperia U that has seen/heared/experienced , would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
If memory problem doesn't affect your need than no doubt you should go for it otherwise wise Xperia j or if you want to add more money than sola
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I suggests don't buy XU,memory so freaking small space,no micro sd support
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It's a great phone, only paid £130 sim-free for mine in the UK; but the memory is small (512Mb). I just upgraded to ICS and rooted, and despite spending a couple of days fiddling around to reduce ram-hungry apps and processes, the dialer will occasionally crash when I try and use it, due to lack of available RAM. I am going to have to strip down even more apps and widgets to make it reliable. On Gingerbread I had the same number of apps and widgets and there were less problems. So if you are going to hang on to your next phone for a while, I would suggest waiting for a phone with 1Gb+ of memory.
I dont have any but any problems from day one,no.crashes.and wifi tetherimg always.worked,using my country costomized rom heres after 24 h phone usage ram,no killing or whatever.
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benny145 said:
It's a great phone, only paid £130 sim-free for mine in the UK; but the memory is small (512Mb). I just upgraded to ICS and rooted, and despite spending a couple of days fiddling around to reduce ram-hungry apps and processes, the dialer will occasionally crash when I try and use it, due to lack of available RAM. I am going to have to strip down even more apps and widgets to make it reliable. On Gingerbread I had the same number of apps and widgets and there were less problems. So if you are going to hang on to your next phone for a while, I would suggest waiting for a phone with 1Gb+ of memory.
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I think its better for u to limit running apps in the developers setting.
Should work fine
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there are specific set of people which would be even more than happy with Xperia U. these are the normal, general, non-power users upgrading from a dumbphone, or even smartphone owners before 2011.
from their old unit, they can now experience android and the apps it offers. with even better than usable single cores out there, they even get dual core CPU power, to browse the net, take and view pictures, internet messaging via whatsapp/imo, skype video calls, socialize in facebook/twitter, watch youtube, email, create short notes on notes applications, and many other useful tasks... all rendered in a bravia screen with high density of pixels which is very sharp and beautiful. the transparent color changing bar is another attractive feature which sets it apart from other phones which generally, all look alike.
the only thing not possible here would be the things that require storage, like local movie watching and to some extent music collection playing.
any other else, its as good as whatever phones out there.
with the expertise of the devs here in xda, who knows what more it can do.
thanks darth5zaft, I've tried that before but then gave it another shot after reading your post - but I still get lags and freezes when I have an app open and a call, or an sms comes through, everything slows down. So I've gone back now to using Auto Memory Manager off the Play Store, which might be doing the same sort of thing but I haven't had any slow-downs or lags over the last 24 hours, everything is zippy and I can't see the battery draining any faster
I agree, this phone does most of what a more expensive phone would do - I originally bought it just to replace the Nexus S I had which crapped out, with the plan being to upgrade at the end of that two year contract next March, but I will probably keep it a bit longer now that its set up nicely, there's little else I'm missing really.
Go for xperia u
U will luv it
Nice looks
Dual core
Plays hd games smoothly
Decent battery ( after. 54 fw )
And superb pricing
And regarding lagging
Almost all phones on stock fw lags
Even my father's galaxy note lags sometimes
So if u want to buy a decent budget android smartphone wid power bt limited space go for xperia u
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the big problem for me was the lack of sd
Guys, i really THANK you ALL! thanks for support....thanks for answers, and everything...i have only one more question...usb otg( micro usb to usb B female) supports an 8GB card? I would LOVE it, if someone answered me! i have decided to buy that phone...but if it doesn't support an an 8GB card with usb otg cable or adapter i WON'T!
And again, thanks!
kwstas 13 said:
Guys, i really THANK you ALL! thanks for support....thanks for answers, and everything...i have only one more question...usb otg( micro usb to usb B female) supports an 8GB card? I would LOVE it, if someone answered me! i have decided to buy that phone...but if it doesn't support an an 8GB card with usb otg cable or adapter i WON'T!
And again, thanks!
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I use my 16gb sandisk, its low power drain so works fine.
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corsav6 said:
I use my 16gb sandisk, its low power drain so works fine.
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Really?! Oh, thanks! I think i'm.going for this phone soon enough!
Thank you all guys! You are awesome
impossibile40 said:
the big problem for me was the lack of sd
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Usb otg is present
I love U(Xperia)
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
rohan_avni said:
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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It's not due to the bloatware. It's actually a problem with ICS and jellybean. They just use more ram than the older versions of android. For example, my old galaxy s could multitask amazingly well on froyo 2.2.1 but not as well on gingerbread and worse on cm10. Similarly, your lg optimus was probably on froyo of gingerbread, which inherently use less ram. Even if you disabled all the s3's bloatware, you'd only get a minor increase in multitasking capabilities. In order to multitask well on ICS or jb, you'd need 2gb of ram. Hopefully, android 5.0 will optimise ram usage and make multitasking better on 1gb ram phones.
DeadSOL said:
Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
Yup my op net is on gingerbread 2.3.4 hope that 5.0 will resolve this issue. How u ppl managing this?? Even while using xda app I just pressed home button to check new sms and in background sonsgs also playing. After replying to sms I tap on xda app and guess what it reloads. I have to find whole way to this thread.
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rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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Uhh!!
No. Nobody would bash you for this post.
Unless you spam the forum.
I was almost bashed for that yesterday..
LOL
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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I tried 4.2 leak and Samsung improved memory management on it but that leak has it's own share of bugs and I'm back on 4.1 better to wait for new leak or final product.
rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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No, no; I wouldn't bash you for this. The multitasking issue is a big thing and has been present for a long time. For example, look at my review post and look at the list of negatives: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37700176&postcount=9061
Multitasking really, really sucks on the S3! Samsung have done an awful job.
I really hope Google can fix two major things on the next iteration of Android's OS;
1) Better RAM management (which would improve multitasking and load)
2) Giving us cloud storage for game data (it would be a huge help for those people who wipe or switch ROMs)
Hmmm really hoping that sammy will fix this annoying issue asap. I dnt want to root and install custome rom just nw. I can experiment with these things on my old lg. Its on jb cm 10 already but camera not working. But my s3 is new so will use it stock. Also afraid of sds.
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Nice review mate. :thumbup:
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Well no doubt multitasking sucks on s3. I guess it's not due to jelly bean. My friend's s2 works great on jelly bean and multitasking is great on it. I guess the problem is on software side of s3. 1gb ram its more than enough for handling phones like s3.
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This has been discussed plenty and you're right, it's one of the s3's biggest flaws. The only obvious solution is the only one you can't really do - add ram. That or, you know, hope samsung takes his head out of his ass and actually fixes this since it's rather shameful, but I won't be holding my breath.
But there are workarounds, even if not perfect:
- you can use a custom aosp based rom. There're plenty to chose from. Although i haven't tried how their memory management is better than stock's many people report it is. And they usually use much less ram too and that also helps. The bad side is, since samsung didn't really deliever on the sources they promissed, any aosp rom for the s3 isn't as optimized as it could be. This translates in worse battery life, somewhat more lag than expected, aparently worse camera (from what i heard) that stock stuff... Some people don't even notice other can't live with that - up to you.
- use swap. by installing a swap-enabled kernel you're able to multitask more. This isn't the same as adding ram although it's probably as close as it gets functionality wise. What you're doing is creating a file on either the internal or the external sd that will help with your poor ram managing.
You can get more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging if you're ineterested how stuff works. There's also plenty of info on such kernels on the "original development" thread.
There are prices to be paid though, internal and external sd's are never as fast as ram, so you'll probably feel your phone slower overall, even more if you use the external sd which is known to be even slower than the internal sd (card class is a huge factor here since it determines how fast your card is at reading and writing).
Also, since your phone will be constantly writting/reading from sd you're also reducing it's life span. If your internal sd breaks down, you'll need a new phone since the internal sd can't be replaced. If it's the external sd you can just buy another one cheap.
I did try this with an 8Gb class 6 card and a 512Mb swap. Sure it multitasked like a boss but phone was much slower all around. There are reports from people saying they don't notice any slow downs with a class 10 card though. They're rather cheap so i'll give it a try one day.
- sell it and buy the 9305 with 2Gb of ram. Or wait for the new S4. Or, if you're tired of getting shafted by samsung, go for any other brand. To be honest that xperia Z is looking mighty fine lately...
Super nice info friend. Will try other kernel but not nw. Will wait and watch what sammy is gonna do to fix these in next updates??
So many issues wid this flagship droid. Sudden death, exynos abuse, heating issues........
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Have you checked what the multitasking is like in aosp roms?
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2 pages and all of the mockery and nonsense flying all over the wall... You guys should sell your phone really, you lose couple hundreds dollar more and buy HTC or sth....save the b*tching
Solution: swap, lower the low Memory Killer value (original value is too high to keep app initial load faster, apps like system tuner or minfree manager will help), lock app logic (so that app doesn't get kill almost immediately when you use another app in between of a big app.
Reason why the galaxy s3 is so bad at multitasking is that to ensure users of less lags, less forgotten apps running in the background hogging the ram. Unfortunately android doesn't have a "pause in between" feature, but you chose it so find the d*mn mod and stop whining. I use AOSP and don't even say I defend samsung.... I just hate the nonsense...
Edit: Btw, titanium backup is only 6$ or so, buy it and freeze the crapwares if you don't use. Freeze, not uninstall so the next time you update your custom rom it won't reappear.
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Actually, I believe Samsung is working on a resolution.
I was trying out the 4.2.1 stock leaked ROM, and to my surprise found that zRam was enabled (thanks to Yank, check out the discussion over on the "bestmultitaskingfix" thread).
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Not sure what is wrong with your phones
Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Hii. well try this run angry birds & subway surf same time plus songs in background & any messenger like nimbuzz then switch between apps & revert here please. also a live wallpaper. :angel:
I am just mentioning basic games. i tried running gta vc & nfs mw but both reloads after first switch.