Hi there peeps,before you say it ive exhausted the search button (so no wise guys)
I have 3 SGS2's I9100,
1. Has no service (from ebay somebody didnt pay the bill)
2. Has a busted screen (again from ebay)thought you could just replace the top screen ! Doh!
3. Has no wifi or bluetooth (been told it needs a new mobo)
i want 2 working phones from the 3 i have.
My question is can i transfer the efs/imei from No3 to the mobo of No1 and the mobo from No2 to No3.I can do the physical from 2 to 3.I am just not certain about 3 to 1.
If you can, how can it be done,what would i need to do it myself?
Thanks in advance
No, you can't transfer an IMEI from one device to another. Illegal in every jurisdiction in the world that follows the rule of law.
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No, you can't transfer an IMEI from one device to another. Illegal in every jurisdiction in the world that follows the rule of law.
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So lets say i had a new mobo,and i wanted to transfer my old efs/imei on it then would that be illegal?Just like they do in the shop when you pay for a new mobo.
So because i have and old mobo,then thats a grey area,and your instantly bannished to the depths of hell for even thinking it or asking it.The point of the question was to see if its possible.Not to be quoted the letter of the law,as if i didnt or wouldnt know it.
But thanks for stating the obvious
That's not transferring the IMEI, that's transferring your existing phone number (or putting an existing SIM card in) to a new phone. The IMEI is a unique identifier that every mobile device has, it's attached to that particular piece of hardware.
I didn't state the obvious, if it were that obvious you wouldn't have made this thread, would you ?
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So lets say i had a new mobo,and i wanted to transfer my old efs/imei on it then would that be illegal?Just like they do in the shop when you pay for a new mobo.
So because i have and old mobo,then thats a grey area,and your instantly bannished to the depths of hell for even thinking it or asking it.The point of the question was to see if its possible.Not to be quoted the letter of the law,as if i didnt or wouldnt know it.
But thanks for stating the obvious
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That's not transferring the IMEI, that's transferring your existing phone number (or putting an existing SIM card in) to a new phone. The IMEI is a unique identifier that every mobile device has, it's attached to that particular piece of hardware.
I didn't state the obvious, if it were that obvious you wouldn't have made this thread, would you ?
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The obvious to me is about the legal stuff and jurisdiction etc ,i'm not asking about anything being legal,neither did i mention anything about a sim card or a phone number.
I know what an IMEI is too.(International Mobile Equipment Identity)
I did ask if i had used mobo can i transfer from another mobo the imei,I assumed it to be a no.So then i asked if i had a new mobo how would the imei from lets say a damaged mobo be transfered to a new mobo.
I didn't come on here to get trolled or preached some laws,if you cant answer what i asked,then whats the point in you replying to something you clearly don't have the answer to.
I said what I said because one of the rules here is "Don't do anything that could get us (XDA) into trouble".
Every single thread like this I've seen here over the past 12 months has been closed for this reason.
Yours will be next.
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The obvious to me is about the legal stuff and jurisdiction etc ,i'm not asking about anything being legal,neither did i mention anything about a sim card or a phone number.
I know what an IMEI is too.(International Mobile Equipment Identity)
I did ask if i had used mobo can i transfer from another mobo the imei,I assumed it to be a no.So then i asked if i had a new mobo how would the imei from lets say a damaged mobo be transfered to a new mobo.
I didn't come on here to get trolled or preached some laws,if you cant answer what i asked,then whats the point in you replying to something you clearly don't have the answer to.
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Mikeechoalpha said:
The obvious to me is about the legal stuff and jurisdiction etc ,i'm not asking about anything being legal,neither did i mention anything about a sim card or a phone number.
I know what an IMEI is too.(International Mobile Equipment Identity)
I did ask if i had used mobo can i transfer from another mobo the imei,I assumed it to be a no.So then i asked if i had a new mobo how would the imei from lets say a damaged mobo be transfered to a new mobo.
I didn't come on here to get trolled or preached some laws,if you cant answer what i asked,then whats the point in you replying to something you clearly don't have the answer to.
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check the link below ma8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961010
PS- also there is no need to be sarcastic, as people are free to post there views regarding a question
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I said what I said because one of the rules here is "Don't do anything that could get us (XDA) into trouble".
Every single thread like this I've seen here over the past 12 months has been closed for this reason.
Yours will be next.
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Ahhh ok fair point understood.
But if i had posted that i had a new mobo and i wanted to transfer the old efs /imei data etc ,then this would have been treated or looked upon a different way?
Because then i would be asking something that is legal,and infact is done everyday in repair shops around the world.
Sun90 said:
check the link below ma8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961010
PS- also there is no need to be sarcastic, as people are free to post there views regarding a question
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Sarcastic ?
Lol ok understood (noob here , don't burn me yet)
Try wiping efs after backing it up on phone 1
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i don't how to using the iwizard_979.zip to change it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274860&highlight=IMEI
If you read that message...it says you need to be superCID before using it.
Also that tool doesnt work on the Hermes..
...thirdly its probably illegal to change your IMEI
It's never illegal to change it... Only to use it once changed...
aha touche!!
HAHAHAHA had to be a one poster noobie asking for this kind of help. Thats just funny stuff.
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If you read that message...it says you need to be superCID before using it.
Also that tool doesnt work on the Hermes..
...thirdly its probably illegal to change your IMEI
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I got superCID, if doesnt work on the Hermes. how do change?
Because i change the new motherboard, the IMEI no match the PDA phone, so i thing to change it.
benny0603 said:
I got superCID, if doesnt work on the Hermes. how do change?
Because i change the new motherboard, the IMEI no match the PDA phone, so i thing to change it.
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Its a very BAD idea. Changing the IMEI of your device IS illegal....quit asking please!!
benny, pease post your address, phone number and ocal police jurisdiction and I am sure some one can come by and help out.
After al, I hear that Chinese prisons are lovey this time of year.
Oh, and Internet privacy non-existent (i.e. tracing IP address back to their users and such).
Anywy, have fun.
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Its a very BAD idea. Changing the IMEI of your device IS illegal....quit asking please!!
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OK,I'm quit.
As the matter of fact it is not. It is in UK (and propably in seweral other countries) but in many, many countries (including mine) U can change imei as many times as U want. Please dont think that UR country is a center of the world
PS. I cannot imagine any legal reason to change imei...
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As the matter of fact it is not. It is in UK (and propably in seweral other countries) but in many, many countries (including mine) U can change imei as many times as U want. Please dont think that UR country is a center of the world
PS. I cannot imagine any legal reason to change imei...
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he a CIA agent and dont want n e one to tap in to his convo over the phone....lol
stop flaming the IMEI posts
I don't understand why you gentleman get your panties all in a bunch whenever anyone even mentions IMEI changing. I've read the ridiculously long post by vijay regarding the (assumed) illegality of changing one's IMEI number. But this is a DEVELOPERS forum. Not some sort of cell co customer support forum. The whole point here is for DEVELOPERS to be able to talk about all the nitty gritty details of how we can void our warranties in interesting, novel ways. The forum even has an indisputable history of encouraging IMEI experimentation just as much as ROM cooking (which seems to be the only focus of xda-developers any more.) So let's not restrict our discussions based on this bogus "legality" argument. Ultimately, the users are responsible for what they do with their devices. Let's not play Big Brother and try and impose arbitrary restrictions on what people can learn.
As a side issue, I'd like to suggest that a separate forum be added for ROM cooking. The signal-to-noise ratio has continuously gone south with more and more users posting their own "custom" ROMs (which are little more than the exact same OS with different software taken out or left in). The registry tweaks are all documented (or can be). These releases are just the same old thing with the creator's theme, splash screens, and name added to it. Which isn't to say that people shouldn't create, just that it'd be a vast improvement if we could keep these discussions in there own forum.
::donning asbestos overalls::
fluxist
With the right "box" it's possible to repair your IMEI within seconds: Myth or Truth?
Hello guys!
So, I screwed up big time and now I got a i9100 with unknown baseband and no IMEI... practically a media player.
Reading around the net it seems that with the right hardware (called "boxes" I think) it's possible to fix the problem within seconds.
Do you think a Samsung Service Centre, I mean the small ones that you may find in a city, could do it easily? If so what would you think would be a fair price?
As you might have guessed at this point I am indeed a total newbie and I thought such a thread might be useful to others with the same level of "newbiness".
I will report on what they tell me and the price they ask me.
Wish me luck,
f
You may be thinking of a jtag? not sure...
Anyway, this could help:
Recover IMEI in 9 steps
Or...Contact a member on here called Odia by PM. He may be able to recover it for you (for a small donation).
Hi i have the same problem with mi sgs I lost my original imei after a reboot and I've tried all recovery methods with no result I always get a generic imei I even tried to copy and rfs folder of a friend who lives in another country and uses another carrier and still the same
Can a box fix this our anyone here knows how to repair my nv_data.bin file? No matther the donation!
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service center will do the job or a repair shop cause they keep diff jtag,box wiv them....goood luck
The legality of IMEI "repair" is tricky and varies from jurisdiction, so I remind you of XDA's rule to "don't get us in trouble".
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rocky23 said:
service center will do the job or a repair shop cause they keep diff jtag,box wiv them....goood luck
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I've been reading about riff box and all I could find is phone unbricking in the case of a i9000 nothing about imei recovery any thoughts about that ?
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crachel said:
The legality of IMEI "repair" is tricky and varies from jurisdiction, so I remind you of XDA's rule to "don't get us in trouble".
Thanks
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thanks for the info never the less I think the is a huge difference in imei recovery and imei change ... Imei change is illegal
We are taking about recovering what many of us lost when we didn't know the importance of an efs backup and now we are stuck with a very nice media player and a quarter of a tablet instead of a very nice smart phone hehe
Many of us need a solution even if it cost a donation
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magnumve said:
thanks for the info never the less I think the is a huge difference in imei recovery and imei change ... Imei change is illegal
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Someone posted a video clearly demonstrating IMEI change, not "repair", which I reported and crachel deleted, hence the message.
Thank you for your answers guys.
First of all, as for the update: I called my Samsung Service Centre and they told me that Samsung considers a phone with no IMEI as "stolen" ... I protested that I have the original box + proof of purchase + the code is printed under the battery, to which they replied that they just collect the phones for Samsung to repair and that repairing the phone would be "very expensive".
I believe the "expensive part", not so much the "stolen" part of the story he told me, but hey... I didn't buy it phone in this country anyway so... why argue?
I'm very sorry if I posted something that may have got you in trouble, it wasn't my intention. I thought freedom of speech in the US covered also things that *may* be used for illegal purposes (such as weapons)... nonetheless, again, I'm sorry.
I guess what I wanted to ask, really, was: Can an official Samsung Service Centre RESTORE a phone's IMEI? I read in this very forum that some people's efs folder was completely wiped out: what about that case? Would they still be able to "create" (?) a new efs folder?
After speaking with a Samsung Service Centre it seems that the answer is no.
So... can I ask -and I'm not being ironic- if a cellphone repair shop can do it or would it be against the rules?
Thank you again.
Cheers,
f
PS
Just as an anecdote, an authorized HTC centre changed my old Elf's IMEI -without even asking me... or even telling me!- when I had some (motherboard?) problems.
Whether a cellphone repair shop can do it or not is irrelevant so far as 'the rules' are concerned. Because the only way you're going to find out is to contact a local cellphone repair shop I.E. how would anyone on here know if a cellphone shop near you can/will repair it for you ?
Thank you for your answer,
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how would anyone on here know if a cellphone shop near you can/will repair it for you ?
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My question was:
Can I ask if a cellphone repair shop can do it or would it be against the rules?
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I don't read the word "near", do you?
If it can't be done, it can't be done and there would be no point in contacting anyone in the first place.
Also I don't understand how 'the rules' are irrelevant *because* I'll only find out contacting a local repair shop.
I was talking about something perfectly legal in the US in each and every post of mine in this thread, even the one that got deleted, hence the question (perfectly legal i.e. The imei-changing-machine-thingie per se isn't against the law but it might be used against the law. Exactly like a gun.)
Cheers,
f
I made the distinction 'near' because whether a cellphone repair shop can fix it may depend on whether they have the same gear Samsung would use to fix it (I.E. are they also a Samsung authorised repairer - will they do a non-Samsung authorised repair).
And the only way you're going to know is by contacting cellphone repair shops near you. You're wasting your time here & clutching at straws.
Frenko said:
I don't read the word "near", do you?
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Thank you again,
I've already decided to send my phone back to Samsung (I think I wrote that in the post that got erased), I was just asking if it was possible in part out of curiosity in part because if hadn't the option of sending it back under warranty I would like to find a thread like this.
it may depend on whether they have the same gear Samsung would use to fix it
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As per thread's title there are many many imei-changing-machine-thingie around, if they work it's extremely probable that a specialized repair shop have them.
I'm not demanding that you (or anybody else) know if they are common and they work, but maybe somebody does know!
Anyway maybe you're right: I'm wasting my time
Cheers,
f
So finally I when out to find some shop that pointed me in the right direction and today I found a solution
I live in colombia so thought that a box that was ckmpatible with a sgs was mission impossible hehehehe
I found a shop that had a box and anfer 5 minutes and 20 USD my sgs was up and runing with my original imei!!!!!!!
I guess this is the only solution when you loose your efs and have no backup or nv_data.bak
I dont know if it is alowed to publish the name of box and procedure so if you want more info PM
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magnumve said:
I found a shop that had a box and anfer 5 minutes and 20 USD my sgs was up and runing with my original imei!!!!!!!
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Thank you,
I wasn't wasting my time after all
I hope this thread helped you a little
Cheers,
f
Hi guys,
I feel as I've done something really stupid in flashing my UK Samsung S3 and I don't understand what or how the hell happened....
Two days ago, I successfully rooted my i9300, installed some root apps, applied triangle away and all seemed well.
Yesterday, without taking heed of the warning in Chainsaw 3D, I (very stupidly) installed the drivers for Chainsaw 3D and promptly bricked my phone
After a little research on YouTube, I found a site that seemed good to unbrick my S3 (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...ndroid412-xxemd3-jellybean-update-install.htm). I followed all the steps there, downloaded the firmware from the link there, flashed my phone with Odin 3 and my S3 seemed to be successfully unbricked and good to go.,,,,,,but not so.
After flashing the Jellybean 4.1.2 ROM from the link on the above site, I rooted the phone again, and that seemed to go successfully again, but
now, when I turn it on, and after the Samsung logo has finished swirling, every time it says Android is updating and after that, the home screen appears but it says 'Emergency calls only" (I have tried a couple of different SIMS, and the phone recognizes each SIM card, but it can't seem to connect to any network, such as Vodaphone or O2.
I have tried fixing it with KIES but KIES states that my phone firmware is no compatible with KIES upgrades (???); but the thing that worries me most is that it appears my S3's IMEI number has totally changed with WAY too many zeros in it (how is this so???? I'm completely baffled)
If any of you guys can help with these problems, I'd be eternally grateful, especially the IMEI problem, thanks. Is there a way to fix these problems without wiping all my data? The S3 still has a month's warranty left on it, but I'm kinda worried this time, Samsung will say I've voided my warranty somehow.
NB. My S3 has never been locked to any network.
Did you back up your efs folder before you broke it? If not then you can only try flashing the latest stock rom from sammobile, this might enable the efs folder to be read, but if it's corrupt then you'll pay for a new motherboard.
boomboomer said:
Did you back up your efs folder before you broke it? If not then you can only try flashing the latest stock rom from sammobile, this might enable the efs folder to be read, but if it's corrupt then you'll pay for a new motherboard.
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Unfortunately, no, as I had no idea I needed to back up the efs folder first. Could you please point me in the direction of the latest stock ROM that I'd need?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646610
Good idea to read the stickies over in general forum before flashing anything.
boomboomer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646610
Good idea to read the stickies over in general forum before flashing anything.
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Yes, my bad and you're totally right, I'm just not having a good day, Thanks for the link (it's the one I thought I'd need).
Right now, my S3 thinks it's an Iphone with this IMEI....weird!
As an afterthought, may I ask you if fixing my IMEI back to its original would be simpler, safer and quicker if I used 'Universalbox Extended v1.08'?
The last time I bricked my 'rooted' S3 6 months ago, Samsung fixed it under warranty here in the UK with absolutely no quibbles at all, even sent me a new USB cable.....nice of 'em
No.
1) MG4 Baseband doesn't break your imei. It simply changes the format of efs to a new format that older basebands cant read. Its stick with mg4 baseband or restore efs backup from previous
2) altering your imei is illegal so discussion if this is not allowed here.
Please read the imei thread in general > sticky roll-up thread
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No idea, discussion of such devices is banned on xda -attempting to amend the imei number carries a 5 year prison sentence in the UK.
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No idea, discussion of such devices is banned on xda -attempting to amend the imei number carries a 5 year prison sentence in the UK.
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Sorry, didn't know, I read all about that on another legitimate forum, where no mention of it being illegal was mentioned. All I'm trying to do is fix my phone, not try British prison food.
To use kies, without your phone connected, try going to emergency firmware recovery and typing in your serial number, follow the instructions after that.
I believe the laws regarding IMEI is that you cannot change it from the original. I am not sure if restoring would be illegal, but I am no legal expert. I know here in China it is also illegal to change your IMEI, but if I had an issue I could get it back to original at a shop for about 10-20 pounds (or just restore my EFS backup ).
Typing in my serial number or IMEI in Kies? Yes, I could understand if someone was asking about modifying or changing an IMEI for dodgy or illegal purposes, such as with a stolen phone, but to think of there being the threat of a 5 years stretch in jail for trying to legitimately try to fix ones own phone seems a bit far-fetched by my reckoning, but if discussing such matters here are forbidden then rules are rules and who am I to say any different?
I've already downloaded the official firmware mentioned in the above post and will try flashing with that later today, and see how it goes.
Also, it seems pretty unbelievable to me that one corrupt folder would require me forking out for a new mobo.....just seems like scaremongering.
Thanks again for all the help and advice.
It is the upgrade and initialization option and it asks for serial.
I don't believe it's an offence to reinstate the original imei, but the same equipment and process can be used to change imei on stolen handsets -hence why discussion is banned. Even possessing the equipment to modify the number is an offense in the UK:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/31/section/2
Samsung make their handsets with a very open format, great for modding but also very easy to destroy in the process. This is why all the guides here have 'backup your efs folder' as the first instruction.
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I don't believe it's an offence to reinstate the original imei, but the same equipment and process can be used to change imei on stolen handsets -hence why discussion is banned. Even possessing the equipment to modify the number is an offense in the UK:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/31/section/2
Samsung make their handsets with a very open format, great for modding but also very easy to destroy in the process. This is why all the guides here have 'backup your efs folder' as the first instruction.
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That's what happens when I jump in feet first <g> Must make a note to read important instructions in the future.
Thanks for making it clear Boom2. Ignorance is bliss until it becomes illegal
"Even possessing the equipment to modify the number is an offense in the UK:" I didn't even realise specific hardware was needed......I was under the impression it could all be done with the program I asked about earlier (?) (although I have no intention of using that now).
boomboomer said:
I don't believe it's an offence to reinstate the original imei, but the same equipment and process can be used to change imei on stolen handsets -hence why discussion is banned. Even possessing the equipment to modify the number is an offense in the UK:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/31/section/2
Samsung make their handsets with a very open format, great for modding but also very easy to destroy in the process. This is why all the guides here have 'backup your efs folder' as the first instruction.
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I hadn't read the actual legislation and have to say it's likely (only in my opinion) that recovering the original IMEI is probably not an offence in the UK....based upon.....
2 Possession or supply of anything for re-programming purposes
(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b)he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(2)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he supplies anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b)he knows or believes that the person to whom the thing is supplied intends to use it unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(3)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he offers to supply anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b)he knows or believes that the person to whom the thing is offered intends if it is supplied to him to use it unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(4)A unique device identifier is an electronic equipment identifier which is unique to a mobile wireless communications device.
(5)A thing is used by a person unlawfully for a purpose if in using it for that purpose he commits an offence under section 1.
(6)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—
(a)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both, or
(b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine or to both.
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1(b) states "....Unlawfully....", I'm sure a good brief would argue, probably successfully, that recovering the original IMEI was not an unlawful act but instead an attempt to recover the unit to it's original and correct identifier.
For the avoidance of doubt i'm not proposing or advocating doing it, just discussing legal semantics.
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(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b)he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
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Its a tricky one... to me this defines "changing or interfering" as separate actions. If interfering doesn't mean changing, it would be my assumption that rewriting the original IMEI would be classed as interfering. It would be much clearer if it said:
he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing, interfering or tinkering
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1(b) states "....Unlawfully....", I'm sure a good brief would argue, probably successfully, that recovering the original IMEI was not an unlawful act but instead an attempt to recover the unit to it's original and correct identifier.
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Nah, it basically says...
You are breaking the law if you
a) have a device that can change or interfer with an IMEI
AND
b) you plan to use it
The word "unlawfully" can actually be dropped completely from that statement. So if all falls back on the definition of interfering. See:
(5)A thing is used by a person unlawfully for a purpose if in using it for that purpose he commits an offence under section 1.
My personal belief after reading this is it is illegal to modify anything regarding the IMEI and being in possession of equipment with the intention of doing this is an offence
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Its a tricky one... to me this defines "changing or interfering" as separate actions. If interfering doesn't mean changing, it would be my assumption that rewriting the original IMEI would be classed as interfering. It would be much clearer if it said:
he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing, interfering or tinkering
Nah, it basically says...
You are breaking the law if you
a) have a device that can change or interfer with an IMEI
AND
b) you plan to use it
The word "unlawfully" can actually be dropped completely from that statement. So if all falls back on the definition of interfering.
My personal belief after reading this is it is illegal to modify anything regarding the IMEI and being in possession of equipment with the intention of doing this is an offence
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I know we could too and fro on this, but....
The wording is specific.....
(b)he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
I stand by my original view that a good brief would argue restoration is not unlawful, he may not win but I'd be interested to see a judge not allow the argument.....my guess is the CPS wouldn't want to test it in court unless someone was doing it on a commercial scale anyway.
As I've found in the past, ask two lawyers the same question and you'll get three opinions, plus yours making four!!
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On an unrelated matter I thought you'd get a kick out of this regarding your sig.
In 2003, lecturers and students from the University of Plymouth MediaLab Arts course used a £2,000 grant from the Arts Council to study the literary output of real monkeys. They left a computer keyboard in the enclosure of six Celebes Crested Macaques in Paignton Zoo in Devon in England for a month, with a radio link to broadcast the results on a website.
Not only did the monkeys produce nothing but five pages consisting largely of the letter S, the lead male began by bashing the keyboard with a stone, and the monkeys continued by urinating and defecating on it. Phillips said that the artist-funded project was primarily performance art, and they had learned "an awful lot" from it. He concluded that monkeys "are not random generators. They're more complex than that. ... They were quite interested in the screen, and they saw that when they typed a letter, something happened. There was a level of intention there."
Hmmmmm......good to know!
I thought it was an infinite number of Monkeys anyway?
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I know we could too and fro on this, but....
The wording is specific.....
(b)he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
I stand by my original view that a good brief would argue restoration is not unlawful, he may not win but I'd be interested to see a judge not allow the argument.....my guess is the CPS wouldn't want to test it in court unless someone was doing it on a commercial scale anyway.
As I've found in the past, ask two lawyers the same question and you'll get three opinions, plus yours making four!!
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Yes we could to and fro, but just one last point to clarify what I mean.
(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b)he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(5)A thing is used by a person unlawfully for a purpose if in using it for that purpose he commits an offence under section 1.
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The word unlawfully is superfluous as per (5) which defines the word unlawfully as using it for a purpose that is unlawful. ...and as per 1a, changing or interfering with an IMEI is unlawful, so using the equipment to interfere with an IMEI, even if its restoring the original, is unlawful.
If a lawyer needs to argue any point, its not 1B, rather it's 1A. They must prove that restoring the original IMEI is not interfering. If they prove that, then B is irrelevant because the purpose is no longer unlawful.
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pinsb said:
On an unrelated matter I thought you'd get a kick out of this regarding your sig.
In 2003, lecturers and students from the University of Plymouth MediaLab Arts course used a £2,000 grant from the Arts Council to study the literary output of real monkeys. They left a computer keyboard in the enclosure of six Celebes Crested Macaques in Paignton Zoo in Devon in England for a month, with a radio link to broadcast the results on a website.
Not only did the monkeys produce nothing but five pages consisting largely of the letter S, the lead male began by bashing the keyboard with a stone, and the monkeys continued by urinating and defecating on it. Phillips said that the artist-funded project was primarily performance art, and they had learned "an awful lot" from it. He concluded that monkeys "are not random generators. They're more complex than that. ... They were quite interested in the screen, and they saw that when they typed a letter, something happened. There was a level of intention there."
Hmmmmm......good to know!
I thought it was an infinite number of Monkeys anyway?
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Haha brilliant.
Yes it was an infinite number of monkeys originally...
Hmm, you guys are discussing changing imei numbers - Moderator!
Also, what's the fee for advice to the OP?
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Hmm, you guys are discussing changing imei numbers - Moderator!
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Good point. Whether it's illegal or not in the UK, it is in other countries so discussion is banned.
Hello,
Need to get me head around this.
Both phones LG G2 with stock (not rooted).
Phone A - broken Screen IMEI 1
Phone B - working - IMEI 2
I want to get
Phone A - Broken Screen - IMEI 2
Phone B - working - IMEI 1
Broken screen works just touch playing up.
I'm a Newbie needing pointing in the right direction.
Questions? Advise.
SMLP - What ever you want it to mean.
Best thing is swapping the screens
True.... But my ability mess with hardware is nowhere near as good as my ability to mess with software.. My guess would be I would end up damaging both phone
SMLP - What ever you want it to mean.
Why are you trying to switch the IMEIs?
Sent from my SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I don't get it either back your stuff up from old phone restore it to new one, done.
this topic is not allowed, this post has been reported.
Broken work phone swap to working personal phone in a nutshell.
Only issue is a turns out it illegal so it's a no go
SMLP - What ever you want it to mean.
I have found a link to the actual law in the us regarding this however as a N00b I'm unable to post the time at this time. I will post once able.
SMLP - What ever you want it to mean.
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Thanks and apologies.
SMLP - What ever you want it to mean.
Thread Closed
Sorry guys, discussions on changing IMEI is forbidden, it violates laws in some countries.
Hello,
I was flashing between roms and kernals, later I realised my efs gone bad with null.
I didnt make a backup before hand, now I am stuck.
Anyone please use any of the following links from below and send me the backup, will really appreciate it.
Thank you!
G900T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705524
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737515
Its fixed. Thanks everyone.
KIES did the work
abrarabbu said:
Hello,
I was flashing between roms and kernals, later I realised my efs gone bad with null.
I didnt make a backup before hand, now I am stuck.
Anyone please use any of the following links from below and send me the backup, will really appreciate it.
Thank you!
G900T
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That's not good. I'm not sure you can do anything at this point if the efs partition is messed up. Even if I upload a backup, it'll be of my IMEI and serial, not yours.
aooga said:
That's not good. I'm not sure you can do anything at this point if the efs partition is messed up. Even if I upload a backup, it'll be of my IMEI and serial, not yours.
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Can you please send me.
I need my phone working right now.
I will make sure I get jtag done on it as soon as I get back to Toronto.
I am back home, and this thing is driving me crazy.
And no worry I am in India now.
abrarabbu said:
Can you please send me.
I need my phone working right now.
I will make sure I get jtag done on it as soon as I get back to Toronto.
I am back home, and this thing is driving me crazy.
And no worry I am in India now.
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Even if I send you my EFS partition, it won't fix your problem. It will have my IMEI and serial number. I'm pretty sure changing your IMEI is illegal anyway.
Take to some repair shops that write to NAND with your original IMEI. No offense, but no person in the right sense of mind would give you their EFS or IMEI. Be warned... it is ILLEGAL to change IMEIs.
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I'm pretty sure changing your IMEI is illegal anyway.
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.3186.IS:
Illegal in the states, no idea about India but we have to deal with the laws we deal with.
watchout5 said:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.3186.IS:
Illegal in the states, no idea about India but we have to deal with the laws we deal with.
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Its been made illegal in India some time back... The issue there started with cheap Chinese phones flooding market with duplicate IMEIs making it hard to track anti social elements.
So it IS illegal in India too.
diablo009 said:
Its been made illegal in India some time back... The issue there started with cheap Chinese phones flooding market with duplicate IMEIs making it hard to track anti social elements.
So it IS illegal in India too.
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Thak you everyone for help.
I flashed it through kies and to my surprise it is fixed..
Thanks again
diablo009 said:
Take to some repair shops that write to NAND with your original IMEI. No offense, but no person in the right sense of mind would give you their EFS or IMEI. Be warned... it is ILLEGAL to change IMEIs.
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Good advice, but the last part is wrong. It may be illegal to change an IMEI.. that varies depending on where you are located and in some cases why you are changing it. It is not illegal in many jurisdictions and in fact factory authorized service dealers change IMEIs all the time. AFAIK it is not illegal anywhere to restore your original IMEI, which is what you should be striving to do anyway.
However as you might appreciate, threads about IMEI modification are emphatically discouraged and not infrequently locked on XDA due to abuse. Or the potential for the same. It's not a subject that we should be discussing at length other than to briefly suggest that an OP restore a backup if possible. Or seek a reputable repair shop otherwise.
Anyway, glad that the OP managed to resurrect his phone (even with the annoying thread title). Sounds like he had a backup (in Kies) that he didn't realize. And therein is the most important message - everyone should have a full backup of their phone, including the EFS.
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