Ok. Im not a dev so I cant manage this myself. I was digging in the forums and based on what I found I was curious if this is even possible. Fist however im going to list a few facts I have found. Mostly obvious ones.
1. Galaxy Note will not support exFat or NTFS unless you jump threw a few hoops like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724078
2. Galaxy S III has native exFat file support only on the stock roms. That makes it based on the stock kernel.
3. exFat or NTFS is a better choice in format simply because to dont run in to the file size limitations as Fat32.
4. exFat or NTFS is much more stable on cards larger than 32gigs for a bunch of technical reasons im not going to get in to.
Soooooooooo . This all started because I have a 64gig Class 1U (Faster than class 10) micro sd card. I was trying to figure out how to get it to work in my Note. The only viable option is to force a format to Fat32 and pray it stays stable. Slows the read wright speed down as well so kinda defeats the purpose of having a fast card.
Is it at all possible to port the Galaxy S III's native exFat file support to the Note? Or is it possable to have a script enable NTFS support at the kernel?
Thoughts, suggestions , and guidance please.
PS: Search button Trolls. The above info was pealed from various forums while setting the search button ablaze. If your gonna mention it then find an answer to this first and make me look like a fool the proper way. Show me what I missed I dare ya lol :silly:
Some additional info.
The op to the thread I linked did make an app. Auto mounts ntfs. I couldn't get his app to work for me but did a search for "ntfs" in store and find a few more apps like it.
After a dev cash wipe app started working. So that's one way to rig it.
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have exFAT support on my TF101, would love to see it on my GNote... a Kernel thing im told by Dev's... also, since it isnt free, most dev's wont touch it...
Theres an app with NTFS support by paragon (with OEM exFAT support, not for regular users yet), but like most things, I would definitely prefer a built-in kernel-level support for exFAT...
BTW, exFAT over any other type anyday for me... (windows compatible format at least), blows NTFS out of the water
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alright I'll admit I know practically nothing about android. I'm not even that savvy at linux, as a result I'm a bit flummoxed by this forum. What precisely is the SDE, is it the developers rom? and does the SDE run of the SD card always?
I also read that some of the sd cards run faster than the internal is that referring to the 8 gigs of storage or the rom? How far are we away from custom roms that run from the internal storage? and now for the mother of all dumb questions, why does development and root access seem to lag the nook color so much?
I fully admit I know nothing, this is my first official android device and I'm just beginning my journey of understanding. I really like my A70 I think it is a really capable device and I am looking forward to pushing it to it's practical limits just trying to gauge what those are right now.
It is the Special Developer Edition firmware that is used by developers. No, it does not run off of the SD card always, but you CAN make it to do that. To do this, you would use $auron's method to run off of the SD card using ext4 partitions of it. By getting a class 6, 8, or 10 card you can make it faster than the internal. Heck, even using an older class 2 card it runs faster.
How far we are away from custom ROMs??? That I can't answer for you.
I would say the reason that we lag behind the nook is the sheer number of nook devices that are out as opposed the gen8 ones.
yeah I know that shear volume makes development difficult, I was just wondering if their were particular technical difficulties, such as a unique hardware or something making things harder.
I cannot find a solid answer to this question.
Say for example, the new EVO 4g LTE, or the SGIII
Even though they support 32gb SD cards, can they support higher if the card format (hc/xc) is correct?
The Galaxy S2 can support the 64GB SDXC card but I'm not shore about the EVO.
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Cool. But I didn't know if it was absolutely incompatible, or if it is compatible but not recommended so that might be why they don't advertise it...?
Android phones do not support the default file system of SDXC cards (cards >32 GB) which is exFAT. However they will format these cards back to FAT32 and you'll be able to access the whole card as the partition limit for FAT32 is 2TB. There are limitations such as slower transfer speeds and loss of >4GB file support. You could try NTFS but I'm not sure how compatibility is for that in Android.
First post of mine, sorry if it is an obvious answer
The support to a file-system other than fat32 is kernel related and it is not tied to android itself.
For example, Doomkernel (in I don't get wrong) has inbuilt support for more file-systems.
It just depends on the devs and their will to patch the kernel in such way.
I am a user of Nokia N900 too and, in such environment, that is Maemo, the power kernel has actually been patched like that. By the way, according to the N900 user's handbook, there shouldn't have been support for sd card bigger than 16 Gb, but it was not true.
typhoonikan said:
Cool. But I didn't know if it was absolutely incompatible, or if it is compatible but not recommended so that might be why they don't advertise it...?
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It's not advertised as those cards just recently came out and usually would need to undergo testing before manufacturers can guarantee compatability.
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Any records of any builds successfully running, loading and booting on microSDXC card's?
We all know by now good and well that if you improperly force format it to Fat32 it'll pick up in android and windows mobile devices.
So what is the likeliness of this happening and a build actually supporting the behemoths?
Has anybody tried making a build or what exactly is that limits us to the normal microSD and microSDHC?
I'd really love to be able to dual boot with my 64Gb card and put it to good use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSjdIVTNXis
I'll be straight up with all of you, what I've noticed in my symptoms is that when in windows mobile 6.5 I'll get a SOD but that could be because my WinMo side is on the verge of needing a hard reset again. Plus normally the Android loader and haret.exe aren't that sluggish. You know how things like to eff up and go haywire especially sometimes right when you're about to do groundbreaking publications on it. haha
So who wants in? The way we all could work together now that we know that it is possible is reporting bugs and known sd roms that actually work with it, how good or well one runs over the other and everything... As well as with Class type 4/10 (Whatever other Classes there are) so on and et cetera.
The possibilities are literally endless now, because with what lil experience I did have with WP7 and WP7.5 I believe it (Microsoft) creates an exFAT partition of your normal card when setting it all up, and so since we all know about creating a dual boot with WP7 (However I never successfully accomplished it, I guess I was destined for other discoveries ^_^ and to be honest I didn't really care too much for WP7 before or after I tried it. LoL!) SD Android so to speak as well as a portion of it (Your SD Card) formated for it in of course Fat32 Primary. So if anybody wants to give that a whack as well might also bang out successful booting of SD/MAGLDR Android too while you're at it. Feel free to report back your findings.
I say if you have a 64Gb microSDXC Card laying around, then give it a shot! Or if you can afford to spend that much as well. LoL
Hope to hear from everyone soon!
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So who wants in? The way we all could work together now that we know that it is possible is reporting bugs and known sd roms that actually work with it, how good or well one runs over the other and everything... As well as with Class type 4/10 (Whatever other Classes there are) so on and et cetera.
The possibilities are literally endless now, because with what lil experience I did have with WP7 and WP7.5 I believe it (Microsoft) creates an exFAT partition of your normal card when setting it all up, and so since we all know about creating a dual boot with WP7 (However I never successfully accomplished it, I guess I was destined for other discoveries ^_^ and to be honest I didn't really care too much for WP7 before or after I tried it. LoL!) SD Android so to speak as well as a portion of it (Your SD Card) formated for Android. So if anybody wants to give that a whack as well might also bang out successful booting of SD/MAGLDR Android too while you're at it. Feel free to report back your findings.
I say if you have a 64Gb microSDXC Card laying around, then give it a shot! Or if you can afford to spend that much as well. LoL
Hope to hear from everyone soon!
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Hi! are you saying that HTC HD2 ACTUALLY recognises 64GB SD cards? and that you managed to boot Android with it??
Which brand card is this? Sandisk? and whats the 'class'?
have you tried running videos - both 480p and 720p and also playing songs, etc? no lags?
kunsam said:
Hi! are you saying that HTC HD2 ACTUALLY recognises 64GB SD cards? and that you managed to boot Android with it??
Which brand card is this? Sandisk? and whats the 'class'?
have you tried running videos - both 480p and 720p and also playing songs, etc? no lags?
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That's exactly what I'm saying... LoL! I'm not exactly certain what videos run in it, however songs play perfectly in it(Honestly I'm more of a music buff usually, plus when I go for downloading movies they're always DVDRips at 600/800Mb, IMO I see no point in playing an hd video in something way much smaller than a quarter size of your smallest normal hd tv(26"), just doesn't add up, nor make any sense... All I really need is vids in the res of 400x840 and it's good enough for me) and theres no data loss switching between WinMo and Android. It's a class 4, sandisk.
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Update: This rom also works in it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289477
So does this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423 it does however though have a much longer boot time.
FYI: Be sure to pop the 64Gb card in a microSD usb reader, download MiniTool Home Partition Wizard, delete it, click create, then select Fat32 and make sure it is set as Primary and finally click Apply sit back and let MiniTool finish formatting it, then you're all set and ready to go.
New video coming sometime next week, with a better (8Mp + Zoom and Focus ability) camera recording it, plus it'll be a lil more in depth and doing a casual walk-through of Android as much as I can squeeze together on a 2Gb, for some stupid reason my silly Fuji FinePix wont take anything more than a 2Gb (Standard) SD card. But the quality will be better hopefully. I was using one of those Kodak handheld video camcorders that ya can buy for $25.00 at nearly any Big Lots, it was all that was available while I was at work...
If theres anything like myMobiler for Android I'll do that as well if requested.
Alright so it turns out the camera was going to be just as blurry as the cheapo handheld pocket camcorder, so instead when I get home from work I'm gunna do a MyMobiler video since they make it for Android as well as Windows Mobile.
My phone recognizes my 64gb card.
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haha!! This is pathetic... My old old old Sharp VL-E680 Super8 ViewCam actually focuses in on and shows the actual font on the phone screen, I don't have the 3.5mm Audio Video cable but will be picking one up shortly, I've also got a multi card reader that'll play files on the Tv with the same cable, so if I can't figure out which HTC Drivers I need for MyMobiler to record a video then I'll have a video uploaded when I get this cable. I also have a Pinnacle Lynx and Pinnacle Dazzle so no problems transfering videos from the Sharp ViewCam there, just need that cable to plug into Pinnacle.
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My phone recognizes my 64gb card.
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I take it you're dual-booting... Which build is that, or is that the name of it in your sig NexusHD2?
Here's the MyMobiler video, more proof:
Sorry bout the lag and choppy video that was all MyMobiler's fault, not the 64Gb microSD, HD2 or Android SD Build.
3rd and final video coming up today or tomorrow, with the camcorder that'll actually focus in on text correctly.
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I take it you're dual-booting... Which build is that, or is that the name of it in your sig NexusHD2?
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That's the build I'm running.
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This is good news for the HD2 world. I feel the need to get a new card. Or maybe i should wait fot the 128GB one.......
Seems to be no end to the HD2 (or developers) limits
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gazzacbr said:
This is good news for the HD2 world. I feel the need to get a new card. Or maybe i should wait fot the 128GB one.......
Seems to be no end to the HD2 (or developers) limits
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Yea for real, I'd really love to see WebOS get developed for it now... Since we all know MeeGo is at a stand still. Can ya imagine Quad-Boot'ing, WP7.5/8 (Or) WinMo 6.5, SD Android, SD Ubuntu (Or another distro) and WebOS, or even if MeeGo did get rolling then Cinco(Spelling?)-Boot'ing
My Pinnacle usb cables are being a prick with the drivers not wanting to install correctly.
hi,
i now have sandisk 64gb sdxc and all is working well
imaged my ext4 2gb partition from my old (little) 32gb card to the new 64gb one (for NativeSD android)
formatted the rest to fat32 and copied all the data on to it
started first time
i am happy...
gazzacbr said:
hi,
i now have sandisk 64gb sdxc and all is working well
imaged my ext4 2gb partition from my old (little) 32gb card to the new 64gb one (for NativeSD android)
formatted the rest to fat32 and copied all the data on to it
started first time
i am happy...
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+1 I also have sandisk 64G running fine and partitioned FAT/ext4/swap/WP7
Although the FAT partition is bigger than Windows can create (32G limit) there is no problem with accessing it from Windows
hi... where you have buy that functionant microsd? can yoou post any link? or the barcode?
tnk
RE: 64G Sd Card
hello Everyone,
has anyone tried the class 10 version of the 64g sandisk on the HD2? curious cause it's cheaper than the class 2 and 4 in amazon! - thanks
are there any good Android phones that support exFat or NTFS file system on the SD card right out of the box without rooting?
FinancialWar said:
are there any good Android phones that support exFat or NTFS file system on the SD card right out of the box without rooting?
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I think some Samsung phones do. The Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy S3 definitely support exFat out of the box, maybe more.
Unfortunately I very seriously doubt you will find a phone that natively supports NTFS.
exFat would do, I have more than 40 000 audio files in a folder, fat32 would not hold that much.
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exFat would do, I have more than 40 000 audio files in a folder, fat32 would not hold that much.
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Huh, really? I wasn't aware this was a limitation of FAT32. I thought the 4GB file size limit was the one most people cared about.
4GB limit is also a concern but not major for me, I am a large audio collection for language learning.
I am looking to buy a 64gb SD card for my GNote2. I have read some reviews and have been leaning towards the Sandisk 64gb Ultra. I would like some feedback on people's preferences or some advice on what would be the best 64gb card to buy?
I just got the sandisk 64Gb ultra after doing some research , it is the perfect memory for it. Very fast.
Just make sure to format it fat32. And use directory bind to point your apps to it.
Good luck
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cyberma007 said:
I just got the sandisk 64Gb ultra after doing some research , it is the perfect memory for it. Very fast.
Just make sure to format it fat32. And use directory bind to point your apps to it.
Good luck
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Great thanks! So when I get it, just go ahead and format it on my PC (fat32) and I am good to go?
No do not format it to fat32. It is not necessary our note2 accepts exfat format and that will be the way it is shipped. Mine read perfect the moment I popped it in. I did format it in the phone and have over 30gb downloaded to it. 0 issues.
I have read issues with formatting it to fat32 and in the instructions it even warns against it.
When I got mine, it came exfat as well,
But my pc and phone did note like it.
Phone would eject the SD and pc write speed was super slow and would get error. Fat32 fixed all that.
Now SD is superfast now and working great.
I formated it with sd format tool thinking that may yhe issue. But it was not
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No do not format it to fat32. It is not necessary our note2 accepts exfat format and that will be the way it is shipped. Mine read perfect the moment I popped it in. I did format it in the phone and have over 30gb downloaded to it. 0 issues.
I have read issues with formatting it to fat32 and in the instructions it even warns against it.
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Did you swap out your memory so your SDcard is now your on board memory? That is where I have been hearing people having issues.
tenyrnote said:
I am looking to buy a 64gb SD card for my GNote2. I have read some reviews and have been leaning towards the Sandisk 64gb Ultra. I would like some feedback on people's preferences or some advice on what would be the best 64gb card to buy?
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Just put it in your phone and format it through there. That's what I did with my last two phones and have had zero issues.
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
If you want cheaper but risk losing your data then get Sandisk 64GB otherwise for reliability get Samsung 64GB.
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If you want cheaper but risk losing your data then get Sandisk 64GB otherwise for reliability get Samsung 64GB.
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How is this statement true? I have SanDisk cards in my phone and I also videotape weddings and use SanDisk cards as well and have never had a problem. A lot of people buy them off ebay and they turn out to be fake so they become corrupt. You can't just say that Samsungs are more reliable.
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Did you swap out your memory so your SDcard is now your on board memory? That is where I have been hearing people having issues.
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No and if that's the reason for the fat32 format I apologize because I am not swapping int/ext.
My speeds were soso and I ran the lag fix app in the market and the card reads at 629mbps and writes at 9ish Mbps . seems good to me. Transfered 1gb file to PC in about 2 mins.
If you root and do custom roms you should do FAT32 because not all kernels (both for recoveries and for roms) have a good exFAT driver. TWRP, for example, doesn't support exFAT at all last I checked, so you wouldn't be able to read/write roms and backups from your SD card if you use TWRP with an exFAT card. FAT32 works fine though. I'm not sure the exact kernels and recoveries that are affected by this (I would expect recoveries and AOSP ROMs to be affected and TouchWiz to not really care).
Note that by default Windows doesn't let you format disks FAT32 that are bigger than 32GB; you can download a utility that will let you do it. I assume you could do it in Linux w/ mkfs.msdos -F 32, but I didn't try it when I did mine.
I dunno, I'm exfat and made a backup. I have a ROM. I may make another backup and test a flash
TWRP 2.4 supports exFAT now, however you may find that your ROM may not. I ended up formatting to FAT32 for it to detect in CM10.1.
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I will just leave or at exfat, fat32 has a 4gb limit per file. Swap doesn't concern me as I have plenty of internal space for those things.