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are there any good Android phones that support exFat or NTFS file system on the SD card right out of the box without rooting?

FinancialWar said:
are there any good Android phones that support exFat or NTFS file system on the SD card right out of the box without rooting?
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I think some Samsung phones do. The Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy S3 definitely support exFat out of the box, maybe more.
Unfortunately I very seriously doubt you will find a phone that natively supports NTFS.

exFat would do, I have more than 40 000 audio files in a folder, fat32 would not hold that much.

FinancialWar said:
exFat would do, I have more than 40 000 audio files in a folder, fat32 would not hold that much.
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Huh, really? I wasn't aware this was a limitation of FAT32. I thought the 4GB file size limit was the one most people cared about.

4GB limit is also a concern but not major for me, I am a large audio collection for language learning.

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SD card file system

Hey, I have got a question concerning the SD card file system. Apparently, the sgs2 only supports Fat32, which has a maximum file size of 4gb... Now, the sgs2 also supports 1080p hd videos. How am I supposed to transfer a 1080p video (which is usually about 8gb or more) to my sd card?
change it to mp4
by using freemake
Thanks for your hint. However, converting mkv to mp4 will make it smaller but the movie will almost certainly lose quality. So this is not an option for me. Is there really no chance to transfer files that are bigger than 4gb???
how about splitting the movie in multiple smaller parts?
Might just be worth formatting your external sd card via PC as ext 4 and see if phone reads it .
jje
D4rK.F0rcE said:
Hey, I have got a question concerning the SD card file system. Apparently, the sgs2 only supports Fat32, which has a maximum file size of 4gb... Now, the sgs2 also supports 1080p hd videos. How am I supposed to transfer a 1080p video (which is usually about 8gb or more) to my sd card?
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Just a question, is there a difference on quality when watching a 720p(1280x720) and a 1080p(1920x1080) on a 800x480(landscaped SGS2) screen?
JJEgan said:
Might just be worth formatting your external sd card via PC as ext 4 and see if phone reads it .
jje
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Yeah tried NTFS and exFAT, but no success... don't know how to format as ext4, since I am using windows. Can someone with linux try it? Or is there a way to format it via windows?
Splitting the video is working, but yeah... not the best choice in my opinion. However, here is nice tutorial: http://www.logichaos.com/joomla/guides/35/60-how-to-split-mkv-to-multiple-mkv-files.html
i would almost certainly create a phone version rather than keep if full hd and waste 75+% of the detail. If you did a transcode to actual phone res then the file size will/should be 25% or less of orig size, and you will possibly get a visual improvement if there is a 1:1 ratio for the phone.
deanwray said:
i would almost certainly create a phone version rather than keep if full hd and waste 75+% of the detail. If you did a transcode to actual phone res then the file size will/should be 25% or less of orig size, and you will possibly get a visual improvement if there is a 1:1 ratio for the phone.
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yes sure, but I am more thinking in terms of MHL and HDMI mirroring, i.e. to watch a full hd video on a lcd screen via the sgs2...
D4rK.F0rcE said:
yes sure, but I am more thinking in terms of MHL and HDMI mirroring, i.e. to watch a full hd video on a lcd screen via the sgs2...
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Then I would start to look at kernels that have ntfs or ext3/4 support for sd cards (surprised ext3/4 didn't work tbh), blame microsoft for coming up with and amazingly fragment-able limited file system
I blame them all the time when I shoot with my HD camera onto CF cards and after 8 minutes at 40-50mbit it stops recording (4GB limit) I blame them and the manufactures for adopting fat32!
deanwray said:
Then I would start to look at kernels that have ntfs or ext3/4 support for sd cards (surprised ext3/4 didn't work tbh)
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I never tried ext4, cause I do not know how to format a sd card as ect4 with a windows pc... maybe ext4 is working. And yes, I will start watching out for other kernels
D4rK.F0rcE said:
I never tried ext4, cause I do not know how to format a sd card as ect4 with a windows pc... maybe ext4 is working. And yes, I will start watching out for other kernels
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Tell u what, will boot into linux and try it cause now I'm curious
You could put the 8GB movie on the internal memory instead of the SD card.
[EDIT] NVM. I thought the internal memory was formatted differently. I'm sure I read somewhere it formatted as ext4 or exFAT. :/
And the result : No joy ext3/4

[Q] Can phones support more than 32gb SD?

I cannot find a solid answer to this question.
Say for example, the new EVO 4g LTE, or the SGIII
Even though they support 32gb SD cards, can they support higher if the card format (hc/xc) is correct?
The Galaxy S2 can support the 64GB SDXC card but I'm not shore about the EVO.
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Cool. But I didn't know if it was absolutely incompatible, or if it is compatible but not recommended so that might be why they don't advertise it...?
Android phones do not support the default file system of SDXC cards (cards >32 GB) which is exFAT. However they will format these cards back to FAT32 and you'll be able to access the whole card as the partition limit for FAT32 is 2TB. There are limitations such as slower transfer speeds and loss of >4GB file support. You could try NTFS but I'm not sure how compatibility is for that in Android.
First post of mine, sorry if it is an obvious answer
The support to a file-system other than fat32 is kernel related and it is not tied to android itself.
For example, Doomkernel (in I don't get wrong) has inbuilt support for more file-systems.
It just depends on the devs and their will to patch the kernel in such way.
I am a user of Nokia N900 too and, in such environment, that is Maemo, the power kernel has actually been patched like that. By the way, according to the N900 user's handbook, there shouldn't have been support for sd card bigger than 16 Gb, but it was not true.
typhoonikan said:
Cool. But I didn't know if it was absolutely incompatible, or if it is compatible but not recommended so that might be why they don't advertise it...?
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It's not advertised as those cards just recently came out and usually would need to undergo testing before manufacturers can guarantee compatability.
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Looking for a phone with MTP and exFAT support

I am currently using the ASUS Transformer Prime and it has an amazing feature: support for microSD card with exFAT partition (allowing for files larger than 4 GB). Moreover, the internal storage (using MTP) also allows for files larger than 4 GB. Unfortunately, none of my phones (mostly from HTC) has this feature. Is there any phone currently available has support for exFAT microSD card?
The Samsung Galaxy S III does.
It may not be out now but in less then a week so not a long wait.
shadowofdarkness said:
The Samsung Galaxy S III does.
It may not be out now but in less then a week so not a long wait.
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May I ask where you get this info? From what I have read, I don't see anyone mentioning exFAT support on the Galaxy S3.
huy_lonewolf said:
May I ask where you get this info? From what I have read, I don't see anyone mentioning exFAT support on the Galaxy S3.
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the official launch event I believe and the fact that the firmware has leaked and I personally extracted the exfat kernel modules from the ram disk
shadowofdarkness said:
the official launch event I believe and the fact that the firmware has leaked and I personally extracted the exfat kernel modules from the ram disk
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Thanks a lot for your help. I will be looking forward to the GS3 then.
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[Q] SD Cards for GNote2

I am looking to buy a 64gb SD card for my GNote2. I have read some reviews and have been leaning towards the Sandisk 64gb Ultra. I would like some feedback on people's preferences or some advice on what would be the best 64gb card to buy?
I just got the sandisk 64Gb ultra after doing some research , it is the perfect memory for it. Very fast.
Just make sure to format it fat32. And use directory bind to point your apps to it.
Good luck
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cyberma007 said:
I just got the sandisk 64Gb ultra after doing some research , it is the perfect memory for it. Very fast.
Just make sure to format it fat32. And use directory bind to point your apps to it.
Good luck
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Great thanks! So when I get it, just go ahead and format it on my PC (fat32) and I am good to go?
No do not format it to fat32. It is not necessary our note2 accepts exfat format and that will be the way it is shipped. Mine read perfect the moment I popped it in. I did format it in the phone and have over 30gb downloaded to it. 0 issues.
I have read issues with formatting it to fat32 and in the instructions it even warns against it.
When I got mine, it came exfat as well,
But my pc and phone did note like it.
Phone would eject the SD and pc write speed was super slow and would get error. Fat32 fixed all that.
Now SD is superfast now and working great.
I formated it with sd format tool thinking that may yhe issue. But it was not
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stkiswr said:
No do not format it to fat32. It is not necessary our note2 accepts exfat format and that will be the way it is shipped. Mine read perfect the moment I popped it in. I did format it in the phone and have over 30gb downloaded to it. 0 issues.
I have read issues with formatting it to fat32 and in the instructions it even warns against it.
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Did you swap out your memory so your SDcard is now your on board memory? That is where I have been hearing people having issues.
tenyrnote said:
I am looking to buy a 64gb SD card for my GNote2. I have read some reviews and have been leaning towards the Sandisk 64gb Ultra. I would like some feedback on people's preferences or some advice on what would be the best 64gb card to buy?
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Just put it in your phone and format it through there. That's what I did with my last two phones and have had zero issues.
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
If you want cheaper but risk losing your data then get Sandisk 64GB otherwise for reliability get Samsung 64GB.
mi7chy said:
If you want cheaper but risk losing your data then get Sandisk 64GB otherwise for reliability get Samsung 64GB.
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How is this statement true? I have SanDisk cards in my phone and I also videotape weddings and use SanDisk cards as well and have never had a problem. A lot of people buy them off ebay and they turn out to be fake so they become corrupt. You can't just say that Samsungs are more reliable.
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
tenyrnote said:
Did you swap out your memory so your SDcard is now your on board memory? That is where I have been hearing people having issues.
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No and if that's the reason for the fat32 format I apologize because I am not swapping int/ext.
My speeds were soso and I ran the lag fix app in the market and the card reads at 629mbps and writes at 9ish Mbps . seems good to me. Transfered 1gb file to PC in about 2 mins.
If you root and do custom roms you should do FAT32 because not all kernels (both for recoveries and for roms) have a good exFAT driver. TWRP, for example, doesn't support exFAT at all last I checked, so you wouldn't be able to read/write roms and backups from your SD card if you use TWRP with an exFAT card. FAT32 works fine though. I'm not sure the exact kernels and recoveries that are affected by this (I would expect recoveries and AOSP ROMs to be affected and TouchWiz to not really care).
Note that by default Windows doesn't let you format disks FAT32 that are bigger than 32GB; you can download a utility that will let you do it. I assume you could do it in Linux w/ mkfs.msdos -F 32, but I didn't try it when I did mine.
I dunno, I'm exfat and made a backup. I have a ROM. I may make another backup and test a flash
TWRP 2.4 supports exFAT now, however you may find that your ROM may not. I ended up formatting to FAT32 for it to detect in CM10.1.
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I will just leave or at exfat, fat32 has a 4gb limit per file. Swap doesn't concern me as I have plenty of internal space for those things.

SanDisk 200GB microsd works with marshmallow (6.0)

Just got my SanDisk 200GB microsd card from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V62XBQQ
Seems to be working OK. Shows a formatted size of 180GB. I wanted to test this card due to being a road warrior and I transfer a lot of my Plex library to listen and watch on flights. I did not have time to do any benchmarks. I just wanted to let you guys know that it seems some larger size microsd cards seem to work with my K1.
Nice find! What are the factory r/w that it's supposed to have?
Attached benchmarks from PC Mag.
Can anyone recommend a good android sd card benchmark app?
Omg...almost laptop lol...
Actually my previous one had 80gb! good find.
Did Nvidia lift the 128GB limit?
What about formatting? NTFS or FAT32 or exFAT? They wanted to support more, but I never realized any news about that.
Don't know if the 128GB limit is based on their QA testing or a software/hardware limit. It doesn't seem to be a limit on my K1. Have not tried NTFS/EXT4/FAT32. So far just using it as internal storage on Marshmallow (Android 6.0).
Just a tip for anyone with lack of knowledge: SDXC supports up to 2TB, though most OEMs will advertise what is currently being sold at most for the general consumer. Just look at any modern compact system camera for reference with RAW support and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Vankog said:
Did Nvidia lift the 128GB limit?
What about formatting? NTFS or FAT32 or exFAT? They wanted to support more, but I never realized any news about that.
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There's NO SUCH THING as 128GB limit. It's either 64GB or 2TB and nothing in between.
Even without exFAT, you can make 128GB SD/TF card work by formatting it as FAT32 on your computer, it just won't be standard-compliant. To claim [insert arbitrary >64 number]GB support, you must have exFAT.
I own a nvidia shield tv and a sandisk 200Go microsd. I can insure you that 1/ nvidia just test with 128Go sdcards ntfs formated, nothing else, 2/ the 200Gb even when ntfs formated (196go left) is seen as a 183Go disk by the shield, but 3/ even if that 183Go I have frame freeze and sounds glitches when playing moovies from the disk. I suspect a serious limitation within android 6.0 to support "large" sdcard. I have no issue playing the exact same movie on the shield from a 16go usb key. I tried ntfs, hfs+, exfat (the worse which makes several media player crash) with no real success. In my opinion, it's related to the size and also bitrate (read in this case) not sustained by the shield / android tv. I ask nvidia to look into the issue and a "case" should be opened but if it's related to android it's more an os issue that google should take care of. This is the answer I am expecting from nvidia next level support. Best regards,
Can anyone confirm that 200 GB micro SD works fine ? I'm about to purchase one ( same as OP, I'm kinda of a road warrior, need my storage space)
Benchmarks? Issues with playback or gaming?
DeBoX said:
Can anyone confirm that 200 GB micro SD works fine ? I'm about to purchase one ( same as OP, I'm kinda of a road warrior, need my storage space)
Benchmarks? Issues with playback or gaming?
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I second this question because they are on sale at Amazon for only $60 right now ;p seems like a steal ;p
I ordered mine today from BHPhotovideo (i get taxed in CA for amazon). I'll report back in a few days after I receive my microsd.
Awaiting your results , eagerly
DeBoX said:
Awaiting your results , eagerly
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Happy to report it's working! I just recieved it from BHPhotovideo.com for $60 and I just put it into my k1 and it recognized right away.
"SanDisk SD card"
1.50MB used of 183GB
- FAT 32 default. I'll leave it as FAT32 because this is really for Plex sync storage =p I don't need 4+gb files to be on my tablet.
Any chance you could do a quick benchmark?
By the way super thanks(!!) for the update
DeBoX said:
Any chance you could do a quick benchmark?
By the way super thanks(!!) for the update
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A1 SD Bench
Read: 75.58MB/s
Write: 14.96MB/s
FAT32, 166,075MB free of 187,714MB
in my K1 this sd card brings
Read: 66.19 MB/s
Write: 15.47 MB/s
But cannot format the card as internal storage. Trying so gives me the message that SD card is too slow to be used as internal storage
Internal Memory's Speed is
Read: 135.72 MB/s
Write: 31.80 MB/s
Please format the card as NTFS and try again. NTFS is significantly faster on the Shield.
But this will likely only work on external storage mode, because the device re-reformats the card for internal storage again.

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