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Hey guys, I ran into quite a predicament today. As I was walking to work, I fell something fall out and slide half way across the parking lot. I felt me phone case (the crappy one that came with the phone), looked down on the ground and noticed it was my AWESOME Sprint Touch Pro. With the site of my phone moving in a hockey-like manner, I finished cursing and decided that I don’t want to have such an amazing phone looking like a piece of crap.
So here is where I am at. I need to get this phone fixed. I think that I might have a few options, but I want to know what you guys think. Originally, I bought this phone from a guy of Craigslist; it was $240, if you can believe it. Now, the phone had never been activated, so it was as if I was the original owner. Additionally, I never got a phone from sprint, but I am under contract. That means, according to sprint, that I am eligible for a new to get a new phone at anytime. Thus, I reach my questions and request for opinions.
Option 1 (least likely): Since the phone was never activated, can I still claim the 30-day phone guarantee from sprint? Meaning, can I return the phone as if it was defective?
Option 2 (What I will probably have to do): Should I buy a phone, get the equipment protection plan, and then process my touch pro as a defective phone. This seems like a relatively good idea, because I can get a phone pretty cheap (like the rant) and sell it on Ebay. So in the end, I make money off of this idea. The only down side is that my contract restarts, but I have only been with sprint for about four months. Also, I was going to save my free phone upgrade for next year so I could get a brand spanking new phone.
Option 3 (Don’t want to do this): Suck it up, and get a silicon case that covers the scratches. The scratches are only around the shiny part on the perimeter of the screen, which, by the way, says a lot about the quality of the screen.
Option 4 (Too much trouble): Sell it on eBay for as much as I can, and since it’s probable less than $300, put the rest out of pocket and buy a brand new touch pro from sprint.
Option 5 (Does it exits?): look for replacement housing. Since the phone is new, I don’t know if it’s even out there yet.
Thanks for all your input guys. I really hope to hear from some Sprint Reps or something. Meanwhile, I am going to try to sucker Sprint into helping me out.
P.S Yes, I know what I am doing is unethical, and that the phone is not really defective, thus I should not be returning it as defective.
I think I am having trouble understanding what happened. You have scratched your touch pro that you bought from someone else, I got that.
You never activated the phone on sprint? You should go ahead and put the phone one your account and get insurance immediately!
If you have only been with Sprint for 4 months how are you eligible for an upgrade?
If it is only chrome scratched my TP came like that. Look at the chrome around the keyboard section. At all 3 corners, excluding the Stylus one check for a "Seam" in the chrome, if it has this you can take it in and exchange at a Sprint store.
A scratched phone on Ebay will go for MUCH less than a regular one.
I am not here to tell you whether you are ethical or not, but you should exhaust all options that seem less unethical first before trying to make someone else pay for your mistake. That being said, I think everyone in the world would try to get a new phone for free, so I wouldn't feel too bad.
The phone is activated on sprint, but the person that sold it to me never activated it. It has been only a few days since I activated, can I still add the TEP? And are they going to charger a deductible, cuz they'll charge me $55 to fix it.
I am eligible for an upgrade cuz I never got a phone from sprint.
So if it has some defects I could take it back, even though I have no TEP? Unfortunately, the phone is flawless other than my stupid scratches.
TBH, I don't fell doing this to sprint. They have screwed me over many times over. This would just even it out.
If it is activated just go ahead and get insurance. You can add it anytime. They will charge deductible normally, but instead of telling them its because of scratches tell them you are experiencing poor battery life and that you can't hear anything in the speaker because it sounds like a tin can.
Oh, you never purchased a phone when you switched. I was confused. Thanks for clarification.
Look for those seams, almost every TP has them and they will switch for free without TEP. They are hard to notice but mine has em and I am going to switch soon.
They have screwed me repeatedly and I would be doing the same thing. Haha, I wasn't trying to preach in my post before.
Is there a grace period to get it? I thought it was like 30 days. Yea, I can lie to them, no problem. Though my bat life is amazing. play with it all day and never has died on me.
Can you direct me to a link to where this seams thingy is being discussed, or where the sources where u got this is at. I want to read some on it. Or maybe some pics, I didn't really know where to look.
Yea, well, they decided to renew my contract, and it said they had returned my deposit...I'm definitely going to use that against them.
To be honest, they have messed up so many times, I have only paid my full bill about 2 times.
I Heard my Sprint Rep. say that the insurance can only be added within the first 30 days.
So here is the rub....How do they know when you purchased it? Unfortunately logic would say that the insurance only applies to devices purchased directly from the carrier, but I hope I am wrong.
ramiss said:
I Heard my Sprint Rep. say that the insurance can only be added within the first 30 days.
So here is the rub....How do they know when you purchased it? Unfortunately logic would say that the insurance only applies to devices purchased directly from the carrier, but I hope I am wrong.
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Unless they changed the policy, that's not true. I had a phone for 6 months before I added the insurance online through the My Account feature.
But it's possible that has been changed and no longer do able.
Guys Thanks for all your responses, they are very informative.
So Basically here, I am leaning towards trying to see if I can get insurance added. I don't know how hard of a task this will be, but I hope that they can be persuaded into helping me out.
If not, I will just get a cheap phone and sell it.
Again, I am aware of the ethical lines being crossed, but wit sprint, those lines seem almost unreal.
update (Sorry about the double post):
So to my surprise srpint sent this in an email:
Regarding the call from the technical department, I have forwarded your
concern to the appropriate department.
The handset on the account is under 30 day return period. You can visit
the nearest Sprint store and replace the handset.
Thank you again for contacting Sprint. Have a great day!
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its 30 days from the day you activate the phone...so you can go to a sprint store or call customer service and add insurance
as a tech in a sprint affiliate store i WOULD NOT swap you out for free because of cosmetic damage. So you are looking at paying 50 through Asurion(the insurance company)
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update (Sorry about the double post):
So to my surprise srpint sent this in an email:
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they are full of crap lol
you cant return a phone you never purchased from a sprint store lol
Well, well see. I am going to request a return kit from them, as they said that they would do. If not, then what ever.
BTW, the phone doesn't look like its been dropped or has any cracks. The excuse, "Its been in my pocket with my keys," would fly without a hitch.
We shall see what happens.
Sorry man, haven't been around the Computer. I had insurance on my touch I bought off of ebay. I had ins on my phone before and when I activated the phone it just went ahead and switched it over to my touch. So you should be fine adding it.
You can probably send it to them, but what are they going to give you back? You paid them $0 for the phone, so be careful, that may be what they give you.
Here is the site you requested talking about the chrome seams.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44217&highlight=cracked+chrome
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Sorry man, haven't been around the Computer. I had insurance on my touch I bought off of ebay. I had ins on my phone before and when I activated the phone it just went ahead and switched it over to my touch. So you should be fine adding it.
You can probably send it to them, but what are they going to give you back? You paid them $0 for the phone, so be careful, that may be what they give you.
Here is the site you requested talking about the chrome seams.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44217&highlight=cracked+chrome
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Yea, as I thought, I don't have that problem on my phone.
So if I understand your correctly, you bought a phone from Ebay, and added insurance to it?
Sorry about double post. I just added TEP, took it in. Told them about some errors, no lies. Just some stuff that happens with the phone. Of course I know its normal, but they didn't know that. They gave me a brand new TP, and let me keep the old battery.
So I just cracked my phone's screen today (stupidest way.. I've never damaged a phone ever, I baby them) and trust me, it hurt ME. Anyway.
I have insurance on the phone (girlfriend put it on when we started the contract) anyway, I have heard HORRIBLE things about Asurion replacements (bad refurbs, usually either dirty, scratched up or stop working within a couple of weeks) and I really don't want to be on that boat.
On the other hand I could just have the digitizer replaced (since the actual LCD and the phone works superb) but I have two problems with this:
A. I don't know how to repair it myself, never dealt in repairing hardware.
B. I can't seem to find a place around me that fixes anything but stupid iPhones.
What would you guys do?
Oh, here's a picture if you want to share the pain...
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Here's the current status (I figure I should keep everyone informed of how horrible this process is so when I finally find a way to get my problem fixed, someone else doesn't have to deal with all this).
When my girl and I first went into Sprint the first night and they told us they don't do physical repairs (which is a lie btw, they do if its less than 2 cracks and it takes up less than an inch, another store told me this) they had us start a replacement with Asurion over the phone. The guy was ready to ship the phone but I told him to wait off to see if I could get the screen replaced someplace else. He said he'd keep the ticket open.
Today after going to two other Sprint stores (one said they don't do physical repairs, other said what I already posted above about the cracks). I told my girlfriend (she's the primary on the account) to go ahead and file the insurance claim. Asurion had no record of the guy leaving the ticket open, but somehow they needed a FAXED (no e-mail) copy of her photo ID.
Tomorrow I will be going to Sprint and I will tell them this horrible experience. I know its a third party company that deals with this, but I've about had it. My bills say Sprint, not Asurion, they will find a fix or I'll cancel contract right in front of them with no EFT due to the Administration fee change. It's horrible customer service. The second time we called Asurion (to finish the claim that was lost) we were on hold for half an hour.
Oh another thing I'm going to be showing the Sprint manager tomorrow:
http://support.sprint.com/support/article/Find_out_the_cost_of_replair_or_replacement_for_your_device/case-ba416758-20090629-111250
Specifically the last two words of the first paragraph, I know it's outdated, but because of that reason, it shouldn't be up on their website in the first place.
I will let everyone know how this goes afterwards.
They sent me a new one when I cracked my og evo screen
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I have heard people slamming new phones as well. Have u taken it in to a repair shop (sprint) and asked if they can just repair it? Look on Craigslist people advertise repairs on it all the time
I would have it replaced if u can't work on it urself. They usually sell screens and digitizers on eBay. I would suggest buy both since they are glued together. It's just easier to replace.
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Go into a Sprint repair store and show it to them. If they have a cool repair tech he may fix it for you for free. When my camera cover glass cracked they fixed that for free, but it depends on the store. Some are helpful and some follow company policy strictly. There is a post here that walks you through replacing the screen if you want to try it yourself and have the tools. You also have to weigh the costs. Are a screen and digitizer cheaper than the $100 deductible on Asurion. Since the 3D is still a new phone chances are you will get a new one from Asurion. Also, are you rooted with revolutionary?? Which is a much better root than the HTC method. If you are, any new phone will come with the new bootloader which means you will only be able to use HTC's method of rooting.
just 2 weeks ago we needed to replace a lost og evo on my account, we got a brand new one, unopened box. with that phone as old as it is I would think you would get a new one with a 3D
edit: i didnt read the above post,, good point, i wouldn't want to get stuck with the 1.500 hboot you cant use the revolutionary on
If you are happy with the device have it repaired.
As another posted stated check ahead of time. Some devices have the LCD glued to the touchscreen/glass aka digitizer/glass. Manufacturers do this to help prevent dust from collecting on the LCD over time.
I have not taken apart a 3D yet so i cant confirm that as of yet.
Feel free to PM me for more info. I cant officaily offer to help you fix it, board rules. wink wink nod nod special handshake. but if i can help i will.
We are not even supposed to touch 3d's yet , the crack looks to take up less then an inch of screen they should replace it for you , there no I referbs yet anyway .
My store has swapped out front panels for free even without insurance, given we have the parts phone to strip , since we can make a ticket for 3d's yet
If you don't have an Evo3d well ...
Call a sprint service and repair store, ask to speak to a tech there, and tell the truth as far as what happened and the size of the crack. If it's around an inch or less they should cover it. If it's a bigger crack if you make a good impression on the tech they may cover it anyways and replace the whole panel at no charge if you have TEP.
I would call or email Htc about it... Maybe they do it for you even if u have to pay... I would pay to get it fix.. just to keep my original device!!!
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I have actually had nothing but good experiences with Asurion. On my OG EVO I had to have it replaced and they sent me a refurb. The refurb had a small indention in the screen. I called them and they have to by policy run some tests. The tests are for technical problems, but they still ran through them even though my issue was cosmetic. After my dent was still there after rebooting the phone lol they sent me a brand new one. They always send the phones out next day shipping and as long as they have them in stock you will get yours the next day.
I would, like others have suggested, take it into a Sprint repair center and see if they will fix it. Then basically it's research on just how hard or easy it will be to replace it yourself. If it cost more than $100 or you feel completely overwhelmed, I would get the replacement through Asurion. Just remember, they have certain stickers and ways to tell if you have opened your phone up and it will void your 1 year warranty should something happen.
Thanks for all the replies guys. I forgot to add this to the OP: I took the phone into Sprint yesterday I and was told that they don't fix any sort of physical damage, which I thought was bull based on other threads I saw here in the forums. Any special policy or anything I should bring up to have them stop lying to me? I
And it's comforting that everyone ha s had good experiences with Asurion. If I can't have the screen fixed I'll definitely do that. The fact that is new brings up a good point, but I've also read they'll wait until they have the phone to replace it for you.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I forgot to add this to the OP: I took the phone into Sprint yesterday I and was told that they don't fix any sort of physical damage, which I thought was bull based on other threads I saw here in the forums. Any special policy or anything I should bring up to have them stop lying to me? I
And it's comforting that everyone ha s had good experiences with Asurion. If I can't have the screen fixed I'll definitely do that. The fact that is new brings up a good point, but I've also read they'll wait until they have the phone to replace it for you.
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It might not be a corporate repair store
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My store does , but like I said you can't open up 3d's yet so its more like a favor insured or not
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
The store I went to was an official Sprint one. I did a bunch of calling to all the repair stores around me, all of them told me they wont touch it if it's physically damaged (I threw in that was less than an inch).
I DID get a guy that at least asked if it was one crack and I told him it was a main one and was spider webbed out, he told me that the tech would look at it, so I"m going over now and see what happens. I'll keep everyone posted. I just rather not spend 100 bucks on a new refurbed phone when the crack is not that giant.
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I just rather not spend 100 bucks on a new refurbed phone when the crack is not that giant.
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Well it looks pretty bad
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Id bet you get a new one since the phone is so new.
I have a policy with ensquared. I've never turned in a claim but they say that they will use new phones more often than not. Not sure if asurion works the same way.
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Here's the current status (I figure I should keep everyone informed of how horrible this process is so when I finally find a way to get my problem fixed, someone else doesn't have to deal with all this).
When my girl and I first went into Sprint the first night and they told us they don't do physical repairs (which is a lie btw, they do if its less than 2 cracks and it takes up less than an inch, another store told me this) they had us start a replacement with Asurion over the phone. The guy was ready to ship the phone but I told him to wait off to see if I could get the screen replaced someplace else. He said he'd keep the ticket open.
Today after going to two other Sprint stores (one said they don't do physical repairs, other said what I already posted above about the cracks). I told my girlfriend (she's the primary on the account) to go ahead and file the insurance claim. Asurion had no record of the guy leaving the ticket open, but somehow they needed a FAXED (no e-mail) copy of her photo ID.
Tomorrow I will be going to Sprint and I will tell them this horrible experience. I know its a third party company that deals with this, but I've about had it. My bills say Sprint, not Asurion, they will find a fix or I'll cancel contract right in front of them with no EFT due to the Administration fee change. It's horrible customer service. The second time we called Asurion (to finish the claim that was lost) we were on hold for half an hour.
Oh another thing I'm going to be showing the Sprint manager tomorrow:
http://support.sprint.com/support/article/Find_out_the_cost_of_replair_or_replacement_for_your_device/case-ba416758-20090629-111250
Specifically the last two words of the first paragraph, I know it's outdated, but because of that reason, it shouldn't be up on their website in the first place.
I will let everyone know how this goes afterwards.
Why are you calling asurion. You can go to their website, file a claim, and be done in about 2 minutes. No dealing with assholes and your new phone will arrive in a couple of days.
Because when I tried to do that it told me that "more information was needed" and to call in.
Going into Sprint in an hour or so.
Hi, my screen is unresponsive in about a centimeter thick line going vertical on the left side of my screen. I've downloaded an app called "Touch Test" and it just shows that whole area not able to be recognized when touched and it skips to the left or right. I've tried the "PDS fix" and no luck there.
I've been running CM7 for a while now and this is the first time this is happening today. I haven't installed any applications at all today either.
So I have two questions:
1) Does anyone know of a fix for this instead of getting a new device?
2) If I have to get a new screen or device, is there a way to "relock" or hide evidence of me unlocking the bootloader?
You're screen is toast. No way around it. You can send it into moto and it should be under warranty, if you are the original purchaser and can prove it with receipts blahblahblah.
It has nothing to do with unlocking it. The digitizer died. It's like taking your car to the dealer and them saying your transmission went out because of an intake modification. There are laws in place for this type.of thing, not sure it applies to phones or.electronics but with proper legal counsel you can show cases for cars that apply to this situation...but I digress
If you read the disclaimer closely of the unlock it says "may void warranty", which means if they can prove the unlocking the phone caused the fault it's voided. Ie before sending back to moto RSD to factory or fruitcake it. This way they have no way to blame a software mod that caused the issue. On the flip side, you're dealing with big corp, so it could get hairy if they try to charge you and you refuse to pay. You could always try to fight it and request proof of why it caused the hardware failure via software. In the end, it's cheaper to pay the $125 out of warranty claim with moto then to get a lawyer. blah blah im playing both sides, but the only way to find out is to send it off to moto.
Also if you have att insurance this ois 100% covered even unlocked, I know from personal experience. The only thing that sucks there is dealing with the att cs reps for 2 hours. Again, flash back to stock and don't mention the unlocking. If you know how to deal with tech support properly this will be a simple task to get an expedited warranty claim.
Also, if you search the forums for it, this has been over and over a hundred times incase you feel I am misinforming you.
Good luck dude!
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Look for and try the pds. Fix
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Im guessing u skimmed the OP, derp
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malfuncion said:
You're screen is toast. No way around it. You can send it into moto and it should be under warranty, if you are the original purchaser and can prove it with receipts blahblahblah.
It has nothing to do with unlocking it. The digitizer died. It's like taking your car to the dealer and them saying your transmission went out because of an intake modification. There are laws in place for this type.of thing, not sure it applies to phones or.electronics but with proper legal counsel you can show cases for cars that apply to this situation...but I digress
If you read the disclaimer closely of the unlock it says "may void warranty", which means if they can prove the unlocking the phone caused the fault it's voided. Ie before sending back to moto RSD to factory or fruitcake it. This way they have no way to blame a software mod that caused the issue. On the flip side, you're dealing with big corp, so it could get hairy if they try to charge you and you refuse to pay. You could always try to fight it and request proof of why it caused the hardware failure via software. In the end, it's cheaper to pay the $125 out of warranty claim with moto then to get a lawyer. blah blah im playing both sides, but the only way to find out is to send it off to moto.
Also if you have att insurance this ois 100% covered even unlocked, I know from personal experience. The only thing that sucks there is dealing with the att cs reps for 2 hours. Again, flash back to stock and don't mention the unlocking. If you know how to deal with tech support properly this will be a simple task to get an expedited warranty claim.
Also, if you search the forums for it, this has been over and over a hundred times incase you feel I am misinforming you.
Good luck dude!
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Bummer, but thank you for your response.
Another quick question, It's not a huge issue to me right now, I feel like I can live with it for another month maybe. I bought my phone in April I think, is it still possible to buy insurance on it this late? Like if I got the insurance, then waited another month after getting the insurance, tell them theres something messed up so they don't think that I was just trying to get a cheap fix. (which I am haha)
Because I'm thinking if I got the insurance (which I wanted to get initially but for whatever reason I didn't), it would be cheaper to give to AT&T rather than motorola.
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Im guessing u skimmed the OP, derp
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You are correct......damn kid making me split my time lol..
Sorry op.
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Same here, New interests in the mail.. Voice control Sucks... derp ..
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You are correct......damn kid making me split my time lol..
Sorry op.
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I definitely feel ya there. I was making dinner for the kiddo when I was responding. Took me twice as long as it should have
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Bummer, but thank you for your response.
Another quick question, It's not a huge issue to me right now, I feel like I can live with it for another month maybe. I bought my phone in April I think, is it still possible to buy insurance on it this late? Like if I got the insurance, then waited another month after getting the insurance, tell them theres something messed up so they don't think that I was just trying to get a cheap fix. (which I am haha)
Because I'm thinking if I got the insurance (which I wanted to get initially but for whatever reason I didn't), it would be cheaper to give to AT&T rather than motorola.
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I am not sure you can put insurance on a device that is over the 30 day limit. However it may be 60, eitherway you are screwed. It wouldnt hurt to call them and ask though. The insurance is like 5 or 7 bucks a month and in this case we didnt have to pay anythign out of pocket. Also, you may try a 3rd party insurance company like square trade, but that may or may not work.
When my g/f's did it, we just called AT&T and after troubleshooting, wiping, troubleshooting some more, wiping again, they gave up and sent us a phone next day'd.
The funny thing was explaining to the CS Rep how we can't login to motoblur since the keyboard's A/S/W/Q/E/1/2 keys didnt really work, and of course my g/f's email is her name [email protected]. At that point she flipped out on the AT&T person for taking us from a semi working phone, at least could answer calls and such to a total biffed phone stuck at the motoblur login. Another crappy thing about the whole ordeal, she started the conversation on a tuesday night at 1730 with CS Rep, that one lasted til 1830. At 1830, the CS Rep wanted to elevate to tier 2 "android specialist" (i laugh everytime I hear that), which was "busy" and didnt call back until 2200. That conversation lasted until 2230, when he finally gave up.
At the end of the whole thing, the phone was overnighted AND we got a $60 credit on our account for them totally biffin it up. Thanks tier 2 support! lulz.
In that case I might actually try to go that route haha. If not, I might as well pay to get it fixed if that's all I can do. I love my atrix and don't want to move on just yet.
If anyone out there in XDA-land has actually warrantied an unlocked or re-locked phone (in store and/or via the 1-800 number), could you please chime in and post your experience (whether you did store or 800 and what happened).
I realize that it may still be too early to ask this question, because the true kicker is whether someone down the supply chain (in store, then in Verizon, then in HTC) noticed and charged back to your account; as there may not have been enough time for bills to generate after such a chain, but I would love to hear of actual experiences.
If possible, there is no need to report back on Amazon or Best Buy or Guy-On-The-Corner They have different policies. This is a Verizon Corporate inquiry. If anyone sent it back to Verizon, did Verizon ultimately charge you for a new Rezound. Thanks
(I realize there is another thread debating whether or not HTC shares with Verizon, and whether Verizon employees are trained to check. This is not that hypothetical inquiry; I am hoping that only people who ACTUALLY did the swap report in).
Thanks!
This is interesting to me. I'm stuck wanting the "normal", for lack of better words, root and s-off method from the community. I knew that the employees don't care about root as long as they can set it back to stock. That's what I heard from my friend that worked there. I don't know about the HTC unlock though.
I did it with my first rezound. (i baught them at bestbuy for their replacement plan) no questions asked. GIVE ME NEW PHONE, they gave, I was happy.
not that this helps right now, but i should be able to give you an idea in a few days. bought my rezound on the 9th and unlocked and flashed that night, data started not connecting at all on the 13th. called vzw tech support on the 17th telling them what was going on, no mention of whether it was unlocked from either side, got my warranty replacement today. gonna send back the old phone tomorrow.
I had the 'can't charge dead batteries issue' the other night. Went to store and replaced with new battery. No problems.
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not that this helps right now, but i should be able to give you an idea in a few days. bought my rezound on the 9th and unlocked and flashed that night, data started not connecting at all on the 13th. called vzw tech support on the 17th telling them what was going on, no mention of whether it was unlocked from either side, got my warranty replacement today. gonna send back the old phone tomorrow.
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Well - You did come closest to answering out of all the other responses PLEASE let us know if you ever get billed for it (which can take months).
When I turned my Charge in to Best Buy for the upgrade plan, the dude actually SHOWED OFF to the other folks how modded that thing was, he was in awe. As much flashing I did on that thing, it should have melted. They don't care, or are not paid enough TO care. Never had a problem at the VZW store either, but those guys are usually idiots anyways.
Local best buy for me looked for a superuser app, didn't see it, then exchanged the phone. Had they looked at the bootloader they would have seen the relocked. Bunch of idiots...lol.
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Local best buy for me looked for a superuser app, didn't see it, then exchanged the phone. Had they looked at the bootloader they would have seen the relocked. Bunch of idiots...lol.
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While Best Buy is not relevant (they probably have their own policies), that is kind of disturbing. It means they are looking.
Anyone actually do this with *VERIZON*, would love to hear if they ultimately charge you.
I know this is not exactly the same, but I exchanged my old Samsung Fascinate for a Droid Charge under warranty through Verizon. I restored the Fascinate but forgot to restore the kernel. It showed some hacked version under the system settings and was really obvious.
I sent it back and never heard anything about it...
i'm curious, if they do charge wouldn't that mean they should send me the phone that was broken back since in theory i would have purchased the second phone at full price?
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i'm curious, if they do charge wouldn't that mean they should send me the phone that was broken back since in theory i would have purchased the second phone at full price?
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No you're paying for the replacement. It sucks.
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No you're paying for the replacement. It sucks.
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so basically i could end up paying $850, $650 for the replacement plus the $200* i spent on the one that broke and be stuck under a two year contract?
oi vei
*with new two year contract
YES! That is why I was hoping to hear of people's actual responses with Verizon. Not having much luck with the "actual" or "verizon" part of the inquiry, but it is probably still too early to really know. The phone hasn't been unlocked long enough for people to unlock, decide they need to warranty replace, exchange it with VERIZON, and then get another bill cycle or 2 or 3 to see if they were charged.
... but I keep hoping to hear from anyone who actually warrantied an unlocked phone back to a Verizon corporate store or Verizon 800. As time goes by, maybe we will learn
doh! not exactly what i wanted to hear to start my friday morning.
i will keep y'all updated if i do or do not get charged
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doh! not exactly what i wanted to hear to start my friday morning.
i will keep y'all updated if i do or do not get charged
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Please do. I suspect it will take months (has to get from Verizon store to headquarters as part of however often they ship, then Verizon has to batch all their warranty replacements back to HTC {if that's how they do it} however often they ship, then HTC has to notice {if they ever do} and push back {if they ever do}, and the Verizon has take the pushback and bill). I suspect that this can take months, at which point the question will be moot (because it will be as it will be), but it was a pipe dream of mine to see what actually happens, given the amount of guessing going on.
Good luck!
I don't see from a legal standpoint how they can do anything...soon as the phone is in their possession they are taking responsibility for it no? Therefore if it is not covered by HTC for some reason, it would be there fault.
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I don't see from a legal standpoint how they can do anything...soon as the phone is in their possession they are taking responsibility for it no? Therefore if it is not covered by HTC for some reason, it would be there fault.
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There was a ridiculous number of acknowledgment clicks re voided warranty through the unlock process. I would consider this situation exactly like if you brought a phone to Verizon saying it won't work, and the somewhere down the line someone finds the water sensor tripped. The dude behind the counter at Verizon is not going to know at the time, but as the phone winds its way through the warranty replacement chain, someone will figure it out; and they probably will charge you for your replacement.
No one would be screaming 'illegal' in that case; and I believe the cases are identical.
Please note - I hope this is not the case; I have not unlocked my phone (despite desperately wanting to run Nils' ROM) because I dont have $650 to start again. BUT, I can easily see the parallel here.
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There was a ridiculous number of acknowledgment clicks re voided warranty through the unlock process. I would consider this situation exactly like if you brought a phone to Verizon saying it won't work, and the somewhere down the line someone finds the water sensor tripped. The dude behind the counter at Verizon is not going to know at the time, but as the phone winds its way through the warranty replacement chain, someone will figure it out; and they probably will charge you for your replacement.
No one would be screaming 'illegal' in that case; and I believe the cases are identical.
Please note - I hope this is not the case; I have not unlocked my phone (despite desperately wanting to run Nils' ROM) because I dont have $650 to start again. BUT, I can easily see the parallel here.
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I don't know how to feel about that either. When an employee of a cellphone provider looks at the available water marks and SAYS your phone is fine and has not received water damage and they are going to replace it for you...anything found afterwords is Verizon's own fault and they will have to deal with. I actually had apple try and pull that once. Had am iPhone where the wifi card was bad, tech at apple looked at their two water markers and said it was fine, that there was a definite issue and shed replace it. Got a call from apple saying the water marker was tripped and I'd have to pay for the replacement. I told them exactly what happened and they left me alone real quick.
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... and there you go. That is the heart of my inquiry.
The initial person (counter at the store) will be irrelevant, and if people turn in Re-Locked phones, will they ultimately get charged by Verizon EXACTLY the way Apple proceeded with you.
Don't know if this is the correct forum or not, but I am certain I will be informed by somebody else should this be misplaced.
So.... I lost my phone last weekend and I subsequently filed a claim with Asurion, T-Mobile's insurance provider. However, I have a strange circumstance that did not require me to suspend my service. I was at the T-Mobile store getting a micro SIM card for use with another phone I was planning on flashing over to T-Mobile. Anyhow as it turns out, I could not get a micro SIM as it would render my service useless on my phone (unless of course I possessed a SIM card adapter, which I found existed after this incident). So the rep had to issue me a new SIM card.
After I all of that excitement I noticed I was running late picking-up my kids. So I rushed from the store, and I swear that I had all of my phones & SIM cards with me. However, upon returning home I could not locate my phone. I thought to myself that it must have fallen between the seats and that I would search for it after the kids leave. So I broke out the new SIM card and an old MyTouch 3G Slide to use during the interim. After the kids left I searched for my phone with no success. I even called the T-Mobile store and there too was informed they were not in possession of my Amaze.
I waited to file my claim anyways as I really believed my phone must be in my vehicle, especially as my truck is notorious for consuming cell phone, wallets, etc.! Sunday comes around and I still haven't found my Amaze. So I file a claim with Asurion, and I wait to hear back from them. Six hours later I get an e-mail response saying they have news about my claim. So I call the 866# and I am informed by a rep that my claim is denied because my line has been in use. I of course explain my story, and the rep claims to understand. They check with T-Mobile to see when the last use of my phone occurred and according to them it was the following day. This is odd, but my thought is that I had not used my phone the entire day prior to filing my claim thus the report of the last use of my phone.
After all is said and done, the rep at Asurion files another claim assuring me that this claim would not be rejected & that she would call me within 24 hours. I never heard from the rep so I called again only to be informed that my claim again is denied with no reason given. So again I tell the rep what happened, and again the rep says the understand, calls T-Mobile, and files another claim with all the same promises as before. Next day I get the same e-mail as I received prior which by now indicates to me that my claim is denied. This time when I call I decided to escalate the situation. Well, this only further confused the rep I spoke with as they also refused to allow me to speak to a supervisor while claiming they could solve the issue. I get placed on hold by this rep with the excuse that HE needed to contact T-Mobile. He comes back on the line, and right away starts to tell me that my line is insured not my phone! I of course already have the literature from Asurion pulled up. I very firmly explain to him that every single reason he has given me for not honoring my claim is complete BS.
This representative continued to hold his ground that my phone line is insured, that if they cannot detect the phone on the network the claim is no good and some other idiotic excuse that I rebutted. By now he can tell that I am not very satisfied with their tactics, nor his level of service. So he again places me on hold telling me that HE will speak with T-Mobile. Well... I got blind transferred to T-Mobile, and of course I am informed that they cannot process the insurance claim. I immediately ask to speak with a supervisor. So I get placed on hold, rep returns telling me that I need to wait and she asks me if she could place me on hold again, then she hangs-up on me. Great! An hour on the phone & I get nowhere.
So I decided to try the online support people. Which when I am chatting online sometimes with "customer support" I 100% feel that I am speaking with a chat-bot! This 'person' also tells me that they cannot do anything. However, he offers me phone upgrades on all 4 lines of service. So while I am waiting for this 'person' to type their next reply I began to search for an upgrade. Some upgrade it turns out to be as they are basically offering me to purchase phones at the full retail price. I let the rep know that this is such a bogus benefit and that I could purchase a phone at the full retail price anytime I wished. Enough of this; I'll just call T-Mobile one last time and inform them straight away that this is the last opportunity for them to get this right, and that after dealing with Asurion & their less than stellar service, I will not be calling them. This time I actually get a person that really understands the words coming from my mouth. He ends up filing the claim with Asurion for me, and after speaking to 10 people by now informs me that my claim will continue to be denied unless I suspend my service!
I had figured by now that no human is involved in the processing of claims. Looks like I am correct in my assessment. Sigh.... So again I get a notice this morning that my claim is ready and to call again, which is code for your claim is denied. Yup, my 5th claim is denied. So I am typing out this story of frustration while I await a reply to my 6th claim. A claim which I have finally adapted all of my responses for their automated system to understand.
I realize this is very long winded, but I appreciate your understanding of my frustration with what I now view as some sort of scheme. A scheme that is meant to bilk consumers out of their hard earned dollars, and never provide the service for which they have paid.
Am I the only person that has had this issue with Asurion/T-Mobile or any other carrier as it seams Asurion has the market cornered on providing Phone Replacement Insurance for every major carrier?!
Sadly Sent from my A500 while I feel lonely without my Amaze 4G
sorry to hear..
This is why Ive NEVER gotten insurance on ANY phone i've ever owned (be it on t-mobile, or verizon, or sprint). Because of the fact I know they all insure through asurion and I know for a fact Asurion sucks balls. Ive heard and read so many horror stories about asurion...not to mention the replacement phones they send out are usually garbage. theyre usually refurbished phones..and by refurbished phones they clean the screen, make sure it turns on, and then call it good. the same phone that went in for signal problems will 99% come out with signal problems. Eff asurion in the a, seriously. dont ever get asurion insurance again. if you ever do get insurance on the phone make sure its carrier insurance, not insurance via 3rd party (aka asurion)
i hope everything works out well for you.
Update:
Just as I planned I received an email finally approving my claim! This is what happens when an f-ing computer decides what to do. There quite literally has been no human involvement with my claim. Yet these ya'hoo's talk about fraud & all this other crap.
I got news for you idiots: when a system is finally figured out by people, then it is ripe for being manipulated.
I do agree very much with the post above me though. Stay away from the insurance for more reasons then the fact that you will be ripped off by this company. My opinion is that you save the $8/month you would pay towards the insurance & save it specifically for a fund for your phone.
Another note: I have been reading a whole lot of posts about stolen or lost devices. I highly suggest installing some program such as Lookout. I am still checking on my phone every day to see if it has been turned back on/found by somebody.
Other security ideas to consider: encrypting the data on your phone & SD card, locking the phone, password protecting the SIM card and with ICS entering owner info that is displayed on the lock screen (there are still some honest persons out there, they just don't always think to call the carrier to let them know they found a phone).
About the above security suggestions... I know that people complain about how unlocking the phone takes too much time. My sister is the biggest complainer I know. I did her a favor by installing Lookout on her brand new Amaze. Anyways, the 3 seconds it takes to unlock your phone can save you the headache later.
Just saying!
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I've been shelling out money to these folks for the past 3yrs now.
What I want to know is did you call and tell T-Mobile that you lost the phone? Because they should be able to IMEI block it. Then I would go as far as to get a police report and then send in the claim again. Once that they see your phone is IMEI blocked then it should qualify your claim. Don't quote me on this but its worth a shot.
Good Luck.
If they don't ever wanna cooperate, always file a complaint with the BBB. Works with me
http://www.bbb.org/nashville/busine...on-insurance-services-in-nashville-tn-2131781
Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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WellTrainedVC said:
Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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if you know its a refurbished phone, then dont be mad at HTC =)
I say give the OneS a good try. You may find that the removeable battery isnt all its cracked out to be. yeah no sd slot is a bummer but seriously give it a shot. Personally I would have asked for another amaze. =)
I cancelled my insurance a few days ago because of this post! I'll never send another penny to Asurion.
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Blame people that scam for all of this non sense, by all means I don't fully agree with all of asurions practices but working for tmobile I get to see the side you guys dont. People call in for claims by using there friends phones to try and get better phones, people that "lost" it and we check there call history and someone they know is using it, etc..... its easy to be upset I would if I was in ops shoes but if you understand the system insurance is great to have, I always tell people if you lose your phone first things first file your claim get it started even if u don't complete it you can get the proper direction on what steps to do once its lost to get your service up and running till you get a new one.
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Aaueion has new. Nothing but great to me. They bent over backwards to take care of me. I went from a G2 to a one s.
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Cant really say I have any complains with Asurion other than the T Mobile store I went to was out of Amazes so I got stuck with a SGS2. Although technacly two SGS2s ebcause the first one had a problem where when making a call nothing would be heard, so luckilly I was in the parking lot still and went back in and got a replacement. I tried talking to the lady into letting me pay a difference for a OneS but she said not :/ I love HTCs so its kind of a bummer to have a Samsung but I cant complain too much either.
Also off topic: Glad to see the Amaze finally got CM9 working, well GSM atleast
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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ONE S is probably the best phone i've ever used from T-Mboile. (after flashing a new rom with the 3dots menu removed) nice battery life, thin, slick, fast, feels great in my hand, awesome bright screen that's just the right size for one hand use. I like it much better than my S3, except the no microSD card slot part. non removable battery doesnt really matter if you have have the 3.99 warranty replacement.
I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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They deductible is around 125-130$ also if you decide to go that route, PRAY or call a Tmo store ahead to see if they even have any Amaze's left. There were none at the store I filed my claim so I got stuck with a SGS2
Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I cracked my screen a few weeks ago. I also had the D3O case but it didn't help at all. the deductible was $130 and Asurion set my replacement right away (called about 23:00 Saturday night and had new phone Tuesday morning). the one they sent me was a brand new phone in a sealed unopened box, so now I have a spare battery, battery cover and SIM card.
That makes it sound much better. New phone and an extra battery will be sweet. I'll go for it. Thanks
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I would trade my Amaze for a One S in a heartbeat. Going to the S4 processor and be able to run Cyanogenmod. Heck, the One S has a much more stable CM10 than the Amaze does for CM9. I hate that I can't get a stable Cyanogenmod ROM on my phone.