[Q] keep getting stuck on Vibrant start screen after flashing GB bootloaders - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Admittedly - it's been a while since I have bothered with an ICS/JB ROM due to broken GPS, but it seems that more people are having luck with their GPS, and since I have done the hardware fix and get amazing locks in Froyo, thought I might update to JB.
I can't seem to figure this out.
Phone rooted.
I'm running fishman's axura froyo 2.2 ROM.
I put phone into download mode and start odin.
Choose the standard 512 pit file and the GB bootloader tar.
Flash completes successfully and phone reboots.
Then just sits on the Vibrant start screen.
I then have to get my phone out of soft brick by using fishman's bionix odin flashable tar file ROM.
I've tried checking the "Phone Bootloader Update" box in Odin, but this makes no difference - still get's stuck on the Vibrant start screen.
Any ideas?
Thinking of giving one of the new JB ROM's a try (Hellybean), but need the GB bootloaders installed successfully before I do this.
Thanks.

Hi,
I assumed that you fulfill complete ODIN steps for stock, but perhaps you missed something, check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
Also i suggest, after you in stock and get proper CWM for rooting, flash one 2.3.x GB rom first, and then you could flash GB bootloader.
Or you may not need GB bootloader i guess if you want to go JB ROM, just flash GB rom first or ICS then you go to JB rom.
You may try also Heimdall steps.
Hope it helps

Yo bro, reason why you have issues is because you also odined the 512 pit file. You're not supposed to use the pit file. Just the .tar bootloader. Place that in PDA.
"1. Enter Download mode on your phone.
2. Open ODIN on your computer.
3. Plug in USB and check if ODIN recognizes the phone.
4. Remove all ticks from ODIN, except PDA.
5. Select PDA and browse to the bootloader TAR package file you wish to flash.
6. Click on Flash.
7. If ODIN says PASS, long press power for 10 seconds and it'll reboot, else, repeat 2-6 again... "
^Thats from the thread about bootloaders, not mine.
Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990

Hobbesfed is correct but most ics and jb ROMS don't require gb bootloaders anymore. Just be careful flashing bootloaders, if something goes wrong you will hard brick your phone. I do recommend gb bootloaders but it is somewhat of a risk to your phone. Good luck
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iTz KeeFy said:
Hobbesfed is correct but most ics and jb ROMS don't require gb bootloaders anymore. Just be careful flashing bootloaders, if something goes wrong you will hard brick your phone. I do recommend gb bootloaders but it is somewhat of a risk to your phone. Good luck
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can i flash the latest helly bean without GB bootloader. Currently i am on paranoid android.

Hobbesfed said:
Yo bro, reason why you have issues is because you also odined the 512 pit file. You're not supposed to use the pit file. Just the .tar bootloader. Place that in PDA.
"1. Enter Download mode on your phone.
2. Open ODIN on your computer.
3. Plug in USB and check if ODIN recognizes the phone.
4. Remove all ticks from ODIN, except PDA.
5. Select PDA and browse to the bootloader TAR package file you wish to flash.
6. Click on Flash.
7. If ODIN says PASS, long press power for 10 seconds and it'll reboot, else, repeat 2-6 again... "
^Thats from the thread about bootloaders, not mine.
Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
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Yes, this is the thread I used.
I think the problem was that I used the 512 pit file, which I'm thinking re-partitioned stuff and caused the issue.
I noticed that after the flash was showing "PASS" that the phone automatically booted itself, again probably because of using the 512 pit file.
I noticed another poster said that you don't need GB bootloaders anymore? So does that mean I can flash say "Hellybean" straight from a rooted Froyo 2.2 phone? Seems (at least by the massive size (almost 400MB) that Hellybean 'All-in-one' includes kernel/gapps etc. Although the Hellybean OP still says that Gapps need to be flashed, I'm assuming this is in error perhaps from previous builds? Almost 400MB for a ROM is gargantuan so I'd expect gapps and the kitchen sink to be in there!
Not using GB bootloaders sounds sketchy to me, event he Hellybean thread seems to indicate that you need them, or at least be on CM9 to flash, but would love to know if it's possible as I've had historical issues flashing GB bootloaders.....thanks.

Globespy said:
Yes, this is the thread I used.
I think the problem was that I used the 512 pit file, which I'm thinking re-partitioned stuff and caused the issue.
I noticed that after the flash was showing "PASS" that the phone automatically booted itself, again probably because of using the 512 pit file.
I noticed another poster said that you don't need GB bootloaders anymore? So does that mean I can flash say "Hellybean" straight from a rooted Froyo 2.2 phone? Seems (at least by the massive size (almost 400MB) that Hellybean 'All-in-one' includes kernel/gapps etc. Although the Hellybean OP still says that Gapps need to be flashed, I'm assuming this is in error perhaps from previous builds? Almost 400MB for a ROM is gargantuan so I'd expect gapps and the kitchen sink to be in there!
Not using GB bootloaders sounds sketchy to me, event he Hellybean thread seems to indicate that you need them, or at least be on CM9 to flash, but would love to know if it's possible as I've had historical issues flashing GB bootloaders.....thanks.
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For Hellybean, Im pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps. You might not need to anymore, but before when I flashed Hellybean without flashing Gapps, I was missing Gapps. If I were you, I would flash Gapps anyway. Also, the ROM is 400 mb in size because it includes the ROM for Captivate, SGS1, Vibrant, etc. Anyway, according to Toast6977 : "I guess from what I've been reading, GB bootloaders are optional. If you decide to go ahead and flash it then follow the guide and you'll be fine. It takes around 10 seconds to flash." I myself have GB bootloaders and its really not a big deal to flash them. Just dont use the PIT file. Anyway, just follow the instructions from the ROM and you should be okay. I would probably go to ICS before JB but ICS has the EU bug. Which is why I go to GB first, but then you'll need GB bootloaders.
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nitin kumar said:
can i flash the latest helly bean without GB bootloader. Currently i am on paranoid android.
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Dude..... FACEPALM. You already are past GB. If you arent trying to get on GB, you dont need any GB Bootloaders. Besides, thats why they call them "GB Bootloaders." Also, you're on JB or ICS already. Why would you flash a GB bootloader?... PA is either ICS or JB.... So to answer your question, yes you can flash Hellybean without the bootloader....

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[Q] Odin GB bootloader question

So before I blow up my phone, I'd like to know if I have the steps right since I've never used odin:
(Phone info: currently running Bionix net-gen 2.2 rom)
1.I downloaded the file "Vibrant_GB.tar.md5"
2.downloaded odin
3.put the phone in download mode
4.open odin and plug in the phone
5.Com 3 shows up in ID:Com box
6.click bootloader box and look for and select the "Vibrant_GB.tar.md5" file
7.check the box next to bootloader
8.hit start
9.wait for phone to explode??? or success???
Uncheck every other box except maybe ReBoot. You should be fine..just make sure you have sufficient battery on your pc, don't unplug the usb in the middle of flash or you will get problems.
cool! I don't have to wait till the phone is fully charged like a rom right? That is my next step too. I'll be trying out my first gingerbread rom. I'll try and not set it on fire
Well, just make sure that it won't turn off on you. Good luck.
Nice! just grew a pair and flashed the GB bootloader. Took all of 7 seconds! I will now read up on flashing instructions on a GB rom.
So apparently I don't need Odin to flash some of these gingerbread roms? It looks like I can just flash using the same method I've been using to flash 2.2 roms. There's nothing else I need to do to the phone in preparation? Like disabling Voodoo?
By this time, you've probably figured it out, but I'll post it anyway just in case you haven't.
It really depends on the ROM. It should say on the op if you have to disable voodoo and stuff.
I'm trying to flash "revolution rom 2.0 and it says nothing about voodoo. It does say however that I have to be on a gingerbread rom to flash this but I don't know how I'm gonna get on a gingerbread rom otherwise.
You can flash Asgard over @ EDT's official site...smooth and another choice for you.
never heard of this. is Birgertime and EDT out of XDA now like team whiskey?
I don't think so. It's just an EDT exclusive ROM I suppose.
I suppose I'll check that out as well. Thanks man.

[Q] Fascinate and new ROM

My apologies if this has been asked before, but I've spent hours searching and think I've done a better job of confusing myself, than answering my question.
I've rooted my wife's Samsung Fascinate, using Super One Click and removed all annoyances such as the Verizon bloat ware and got add blocker installed, etc. The point on doing so, was also to improve battery life, backup the ROM and some of the other associated advantages with rooting. One of my main goals was to also install a custom ROM on her phone, as the factory ROM is very flaky. It receives emails, then doesn't. It sends a text, then can't minutes later. It's been a great phone HW wise, but just junk as far as the OS.
Thus far, all attempts to backup the factory (modified) ROM has failed, which evidently is part of the limitation with the stock ROM. At this point, she's so frustrated (me too) with her phone, that it's time to get serious.
So, my confusion stems from varying reports regarding what the proper steps are to install a new ROM. On my Thunderbolt, I simply used CWM to install and backup/restore my ROMs as needed. This doesn't seem to be the case with the Fascinate and there's varying reports of whether this can even be done if Super One Click was used.
Has anyone had experience with flashing new ROMs after the phone was rooted and if so, by what method?
Her current ROM details are:
Firmware
2.2.2
Baseband
S:i500.04 V.ED05
Kernel
2.6.32.9
Build
SCH-I500.ED05
Thanks in advance.
stock roms,radios, and recoveries are flashed via odin. custom roms are flashed via the appropiate cwm for that specific rom.
example: lets say you want cm7
you would odin cwm4 recovery fixed for cm7(pda function only)
three finger boot into recovery
wipe data,cache,dalvik
install cm7 zip
profit
most stock roms and powewashed gingerbread rom are .tar files and need to be flashed in the pda funtion of odin.
then use odin again to flash the appropiate cwm, such as cwmall.tar, which can be found in the pwgb thread(op).
basically just remember zip files are flashed in recovery, .tar and md5 files are flashed in the pda function of odin and you will be set!
droidstyle said:
stock roms,radios, and recoveries are flashed via odin. custom roms are flashed via the appropiate cwm for that specific rom.
example: lets say you want cm7
you would odin cwm4 recovery fixed for cm7(pda function only)
three finger boot into recovery
wipe data,cache,dalvik
install cwm zip
profit
most stock roms and powewashed gingerbread rom are .tar files and need to be flashed in the pda funtion of odin.
then use odin again to flash the appropiate cwm, such as cwmall.tar, which can be found in the pwgb thread(op).
basically just remember zip files are flashed in recovery, .tar and md5 files are flashed in the pda function of odin and you will be set!
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Okay, that makes a lot more sense now. Thanks for the quick reply.
correct me if i'm wrong but when flashing the cwm fixed for cm7, the 3 finger method does not work.
ibsk8 said:
correct me if i'm wrong but when flashing the cwm fixed for cm7, the 3 finger method does not work.
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it does until the rom is flashed, then you have to long press the power button and select reboot recovery...at that point your no long in cwm4 fixed for cm7. once the bml to mtd conversion takes place it's converted to cwm 5.x.x.
droidstyle said:
it does until the rom is flashed, then you have to long press the power button and select reboot recovery...at that point your no long in cwm4 fixed for cm7. once the bml to mtd conversion takes place it's converted to cwm 5.x.x.
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I never could get to the ROM flashing part. Every time I tried I got the same set of errors as when trying to backup the original ROM. I did manage to get the CWM 4 fix applied through ODIN and it said successful, but nothing really changed and my attempts to flash the new ROM still failed.
I searched around this forum and others and found another file to flash and things went very badly. The flash was moving super slow and I left the phone, so I wouldn't be tempted to do anything stupid and after an hour, it was at the same point. When I rebooted the phone, I got a sad face icon only. No Samsung logo or anything.
Luckily, I was able to re flash the stock rom, but after messing with it for 4 hours and getting nowhere, I decided the stock ROM was good enough for now. I have no idea why this phone is so pesky and read how some folks had to ref lash the stock ROM, before being able to flash a new ROM. I made one final attempt to do so and got the same error as the first time, so that was enough for that day. I don't recall exactly what the error said at this point, but I had blue text, followed by orange, which I think said something to the fact that is was unable to verify the package, followed by red text showing the failures.
Sorry there's no more detail than that for now. I may try this again in the future, but as mentioned this is the wife's phone, so I can't take nearly the liberties with it as I could my own.
If anyone has any ideas on what I may be able to try next, that would be great. If not, I may keep digging on this forum (a very helpful place indeed) and see what the options may be.
Thanks everyone for your help.
refer to section 3 of my guide and follow those steps. for some reason certain fascinates have trouble flashing mtd roms when starting from ed05. I have to start with dl09 eclair then flash cm7. look in page 2 of this section for my guide. all files needed can be found there aswell. good luck!

[SOLVED]Cannot install ICS ROM--please HELP

hi,
I am sorry if this is a dumb question. But i have failed several attempts while shifting to ICS (RC 5 by team-nyx). Every time when i install ROM & kernel via CWM and boot the device (vibrant t959) it freezes on the screen with VIBRANT and SAMSUNG displaying WHITE on BLACK back ground.
i have gone back to JFD and tried several times BUT same result.
I was on froyo 2.2 (build UVKB5) updated via kies and did it but no luck. I followed wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Vibrant:_Full_Update_Guide and did starting from No. 03 --
downloaded Cmenard's Kernel with the ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5
Heimdall Suite 1.3.2 for windows
AND upto No. 9 under Windows ONLY: section
the CWM installs as it says (A blue transfer bar will appear on the phone showing the kernel being transferred. The device will reboot automatically. )
after that i cleared factory, cache and dalvik cache.
then I select install Zip from SD card and chose the ROM (which is from team-nyx.com/index.php/releases).
after 3% it says rebooting and vibrant shuts down and reboots.. when after I clicked the combo (vol+vol-power) to enter the CWM its not there.. so I reinstall using [heimdall flash --kernel zImage] command in PC's cmd. then after i redid the same to select from SD and then ROM installed ok.
then I selected the kerenel which was taken by same source and installation went normal..
after I select reboot from CWM it reboots and hangs on vibrant screen.
I cannot figure OUT WHAT IM doing WRONG..
Please HELP ME..!!!
thank you for your time
I am moving to 2.2 via kies after going back to stock JFD. then i will root my vibrant. after that i will install ROM manager from market. THEN i will try to FLASH to ICS RC 5 + kernel from nyx TEAM.
I dont know what is wrong.. please HELP
From what you told us it sounds right. Have you tried a different ICS rom? Give ICS slim a try. When you Odin back did you checked re-partition?
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You should try flashing the Gingerbread bootloaders using Odin after you flash back to stock. Those bootloaders can run a Froyo ROM as well as ICS so it wouldn't hurt to do either way. After you flash the bootloader then try flashing the ROM.
And try a different ROM like iwillkillyou suggested. Slim is good, but ICZen is very solid if you're tipping your toes into ICS.
iwillkillyou said:
From what you told us it sounds right. Have you tried a different ICS rom? Give ICS slim a try. When you Odin back did you checked re-partition?
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hi,
thank you for the reply. No i havent tried a different ROM. yes I checked repartiton when ODin Y this is happening.. I have Flashed this ROM once.. but then when someone calls me they cudnt hear me clearly.. when i initiate the call its ok.. so I moved back to JFD..:/
kaiser_bun said:
You should try flashing the Gingerbread bootloaders using Odin after you flash back to stock. Those bootloaders can run a Froyo ROM as well as ICS so it wouldn't hurt to do either way. After you flash the bootloader then try flashing the ROM.
And try a different ROM like iwillkillyou suggested. Slim is good, but ICZen is very solid if you're tipping your toes into ICS.
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thank you for the reply.. I jz finished Updating to 2.2 via kies..ok I will flash Gingerbread bootloaders using Odin. I will try I think it wont be necessary to ROOT the vibrant..to Flash Bootloaders.. I am going to Flash the ICS ROM via ROM manager (after rooting via SuperOneclick root2.3.3)..
haarsh said:
thank you for the reply.. I jz finished Updating to 2.2 via kies..ok I will flash Gingerbread bootloaders using Odin. I will try I think it wont be necessary to ROOT the vibrant..to Flash Bootloaders.. I am going to Flash the ICS ROM via ROM manager (after rooting via SuperOneclick root2.3.3)..
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Just so that you know, everytime you are using Kies, you are running the risk of hardbricking your device. It is notorius for that and in fact someone last week got HBricked with it.
I don't use ROM Manager and probably won't as long as I have a Vibrant. All you need to do is go back to JFD and pull the CWR from my signature and put it on your internal_sd and label it as Update.zip. Then boot into recovery and hit Reinstall PAckages (might have to do this twice) and your stock recovery (blue) will go to CWR (green) and you can flash away.
Also for more detailed instructions, se my ICS install giude also in my signature.
Woodrube said:
Just so that you know, everytime you are using Kies, you are running the risk of hardbricking your device. It is notorius for that and in fact someone last week got HBricked with it.
I don't use ROM Manager and probably won't as long as I have a Vibrant. All you need to do is go back to JFD and pull the CWR from my signature and put it on your internal_sd and label it as Update.zip. Then boot into recovery and hit Reinstall PAckages (might have to do this twice) and your stock recovery (blue) will go to CWR (green) and you can flash away.
Also for more detailed instructions, se my ICS install giude also in my signature.
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Thank you for the links.. I downloaded and place CWR inside SD. Without kies can we install official releases via Odin.. is there any way.. im sorry if that is a stupid question
No stupid questions. That is why we are here. I am pretty sure there is a flashable 2.2 stock floating aroung here. I personally don't have it though. Custom 2.2's are at this point tweaked so completely out, that they will blow the doors off any 2.2 stock ROM out there. I usggest Moped_Ryder's ROMs and Fishman's Bionix-redux ROMs. Quality, fast and stable. Not ICS, but everything works and no fear of the dreaded Encryption Bug.
PM incoming btw.
Woodrube said:
No stupid questions. That is why we are here. I am pretty sure there is a flashable 2.2 stock floating aroung here. I personally don't have it though. Custom 2.2's are at this point tweaked so completely out, that they will blow the doors off any 2.2 stock ROM out there. I usggest Moped_Ryder's ROMs and Fishman's Bionix-redux ROMs. Quality, fast and stable. Not ICS, but everything works and no fear of the dreaded Encryption Bug.
PM incoming btw.
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thank you. btw can we Flash to 2.2 via CWM .. directly selecting the ROM from SD .. without Odin
If you can find it, you should be able to. Just put on your card and flash away, taking care to wipe accordingly.
A note on flow though:
2.1, 2.2 -can go into and out of any 2.2 there is laterally.
2.3-4.0 -will need to Odin to stock before going back to a 2.2 ROM. Can move laterally from 4.0 to 4.0 though.
(i.e DO NOT try to restore a 2.2 nandroid or flash a 2.2 ROM when you are on an ICS variant. the /system is completely changed and reformatted. You need to Odin to get it back.)
Moped Ryder uploaded a semi tweaked version of the stock 2.2 build. It's a zip that you can just flash using CWR:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674519
It comes rooted with busybox and some other goodies, but it's the stock kernel and whatnot. I'd highly recommend Fishman's Bionix-V Mod or Moped Ryder's Slim_Ryder ROMs if you're going to be on Froyo though. They're both great, but I went with Fishman's latest Bionix Mod since I couldn't get bluetooth to work on Moped Ryder's ROM. Which is really unfortunate because I loved Moped Ryder's otherwise.
And you don't have to Odin back to stock if you're just bouncing around Froyo or Eclair builds; only if you're coming from Gingerbread or ICS (2.3 or 4.0).
Keep us updated. I'm curious to see what worked. It's probably the gingerbread loaders. But, who knows.
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Is your Samsung Vibrant (T959) Rooted.?
iwillkillyou said:
Keep us updated. I'm curious to see what worked. It's probably the gingerbread loaders. But, who knows.
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hi.. I tried again with flashing semaphore kernel through Odin installed CWM version higher than 2.5 to install ICS RC5 by nyx --sorry i need that soo badly so didnt checked anything else ..
@that time I was on vibrant 2.2 UVKB5 (stock)
NOT rooted
I didnt had so called
bootloaders
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(i dunno what it means though--have to search )
BUT it didnt worked for me instead freezes at Vibrant start-up screen. So i Couldnt switch back to CWM. I Odin back to JFD with repartition clicked and my vibrant was locked (network lock). Finally, I got it cleared by application named Galaxy_S Unlock by Helroz from the market.
Now I am at the very beginning again. I am now on 2.1 JFD. I dont know WHY this happening to me .. :crying:
gonna try again with GB bootloaders.. BUT Im sick of failing and going back to 2.1 (my friends who are having captivate had no problem)
Speedy5150 said:
Is your Samsung Vibrant (T959) Rooted.?
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At the time i was trying it was NOT rooted.. But now i have it rooted because i needed to unlock the network . which happened me for the very first time after flashing back to JFD using Odin..
Thank you guys for the links and thoughts on 2.2 ROMs.. I am not that expert . Thats why i was updating to 2.2 via KIES -- which is not a good idea as it seems with the ability 2 brick the device. I am going to get Bionix-V FishmanMod V4 FULL and install as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441976 says..
It says Boot into clockwork recovery and i think i found something to do that in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164
I have to get ROM manager from market and go through it..
BUT Im damn upset with the RC5 ICS update by nyx being unable to installed into my device.. I will try with GB bootloaders flashed ..
If you are going to go with Fish's ROM, then all you need to do is Odin back to JFD and pull the CWR from my signature and put it on your internal_sd and label it as Update.zip. Then boot into recovery and hit Reinstall Packages (might have to do this twice) and your stock recovery (blue) will go to CWR (green) and you can flash away.
Fish also has a Odin package that you can flash his ROM through Odin and not have to deal with CWR.
ROM Manager is no longer supporting 2.1, so if you do go back to JFD, then it will be hard to get RM. It is out there somewhere but really all you need is the Update.zip from above to do it. I suggest that you stay on Fish's ROM for awhile and read about ICS installs and all the little things that are involved. If you do flash Fish's ROM, you don't need to mess with the bootloaders.
Btw, aside from Kies, messing with Bootloaders is one of the sure fire ways to hardbrick your device. It only takes seconds to flash them, but do it wrong and, well you know.
Good luck and ask if you have any.
Woodrube said:
If you are going to go with Fish's ROM, then all you need to do is Odin back to JFD and pull the CWR from my signature and put it on your internal_sd and label it as Update.zip. Then boot into recovery and hit Reinstall Packages (might have to do this twice) and your stock recovery (blue) will go to CWR (green) and you can flash away.
Fish also has a Odin package that you can flash his ROM through Odin and not have to deal with CWR.
ROM Manager is no longer supporting 2.1, so if you do go back to JFD, then it will be hard to get RM. It is out there somewhere but really all you need is the Update.zip from above to do it. I suggest that you stay on Fish's ROM for awhile and read about ICS installs and all the little things that are involved. If you do flash Fish's ROM, you don't need to mess with the bootloaders.
Btw, aside from Kies, messing with Bootloaders is one of the sure fire ways to hardbrick your device. It only takes seconds to flash them, but do it wrong and, well you know.
Good luck and ask if you have any.
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thanks alot for the info brother.. some guys told me STUPID.. but YOU guys are awesome.. I am a newbie to this flashing and stuff.. but learned a lot from XDA . Thanks again for the reply. now I have stock 2.1 with ROOT . (rooted cuz i had to unlock the vibrant). I will flash to Fish's 2.2 ROM soon. BTW may i ask you after moving to Fish's ROM and later if i need to move to ICS still can I do it without messing with Bootloaders..
Thank you
That is what we are here for in the Q&A/General sections.
Regaring your question about Gingerbread bootloaders being needed:::Yes and No.
Gingerbread bootloaders were required in the infancy of ICS ROMs bc they prevented what is called "Rainbows" in your clockwork where you couldn't see anything. The options were there but you just couldn't see them. Then as ICS evolved, the need for GB bl's lessened and now you don't need them at all.
But...There's always a but...Gingerbread bl's are recommended by most of the devs for ICS builds because they seem to work better with the custom recoveries that come with some of the kernels. There is more to it but in short, GB bl's are not required but recommended.
If you go to my ICS install guide, in the middle pages and more again at the end, Yosup (highly respected user) and I have a detailed conversation about bootloaders and their installation. Once he got over the fear and did it, he was hooked and flashing ICS ROMs weekly if not more. It is a very informative section of that thread.

[Q] ics for vibrant

Hello. I'm new here but, had an android for a couple years now. I have the tmobile samsung vibrant running 2.2 froyo. Can anyone tell me in detail how to install ICS on my phone? To be honest, I do not understand all the talk about odin and all that stuff. So if you can explain as if it were ICS for to Vibrant For Dummies that would be great lol. Explain in laymens terms please. Thanks
Peppino
Guess I'll post this again: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMQQDpqVNBk
Everything in that video is not all correct. There are some specific parts that are left out.
OP, I understand you want to simplest way to go from 2.2 ->4.0 but in reality, you need to eventually know how to use Odin, or when you get stuck at a bootloop or your CWR gets corrupted, your next thread will be "Help, I brivked my phone".
Check my signature for the How to install ICS and above all, you need to read, read and then read some more (case in point, this was already answered here Trouble with my vibrant...).
Good luck and if you have any questions, use the search function and/or Google, as this phone has been around a long time and most questions have already been solved. If not, then just ask.
hi, It is always better to go ICS from the beginning.. which solves many problems. So in order to go back to stock you should use ODIN. It is very easy ONLY thing is DONT DISCONNECT USB connectivity while the process is running.
After that you will need some things.
ICS ROM to flash (try ICZen which works great )
GB Bootloader
CM7
update.zip (CWM) which can be found in woody's signature. [Installing ICS ROMs; A Vibrant Step-by-Step]
Once you are in stock 1st flash GB Bootloader through ODIN (DO NOT do anything until it is flashed)
then flash CM7 (GB ROM b/c its suggested to go ICS from GB rather than from 2.1)
then flash ICS ROM on top of it. initial boot will take up more time.
voilaa..!!!
Always do full wipe (data,cache,dalvik) in between flashes.
there are many ICS ROMs available .. READ instructions carefully.
Note: these steps are taken from threads I referred and followed by me.
LINKS
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ODIN : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475&highlight=odin
Bootloaders : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990&highlight=odin
ICZen : http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21742-romimm76i-iczen-185-fistful-of-zen-7-12-12-deficient-development/
edit: FYI it is better to uncheck auto reboot when flashing GB Bootloaders. and also I didn't checked re-partition when flashing to stock via ODIN
tc and all the best

[Q] How to Unlock & Backup Bootloader for Samsung Vibrant?

Hello,
I upgraded my Samsung Vibrant to Froyo 2.2 with Samsung Kies Mini several months ago. I reverted to Eclair 2.1 with Odin in order to install ClockworkMod Recovery and unlock my phone. Now my phone is unlocked, rooted and with ClockworkMod Recovery installed.
1. I want to flash custom ROMs based on either Gingerbread or ICS. I tried to unlock my bootloader by following the instructions on addictivetips.com (when I typed "fastboot oem unlock" it only reboots the phone). Why is it not asking me if I want to unlock the bootloader?
2. I did a Nandroid Backup and I wonder if I need to backup the boot partition anyway. If so, is it OK to do it with RomDump?
3. Since I reverted to Eclair 2.1, does that mean I have an Eclair bootloader? Or do I still have the Froyo bootloader? Will Gingerbread bootloaders work on ICS based ROMs?
Last... Could you please recommend ROMs to flash with Odin? The one I found on CyanogenMod comes with problems when dialing 911
Thank you for your patience!
Your rooted, and you have CWM. Your making it more difficult that need be.
Flash the ROM in CWM, with install zip from SD. Follow flashing instructions in the OP of the ROM.
There are custom GB bootloaders, I have them, but some people don't use them.
Toast6977 said:
Your rooted, and you have CWM. Your making it more difficult that need be.
Flash the ROM in CWM, with install zip from SD. Follow flashing instructions in the OP of the ROM.
There are custom GB bootloaders, I have them, but some people don't use them.
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Hello again... Yesterday I was looking for some JB ROMs, and I found a tutorial on "How to upgrade the Vibrant T959 to Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean via Helly Bean custom ROM" and it says it requires the GB bootloader (can I flash Helly Bean without it?). Then I went to CyanogenMod and the latest stable releases are CM7; for CM10 there are only nightly builds. I found a tutorial on how to install CM10 and it doesn't mention anything about the GB bootloader.
I was tempted to flash Helly Bean but the bootloader requirement confuses me. I don't know if I should keep looking for other ROMs, ignore the bootloader thing :silly: or settle with CM10.
Thank you for your patience!
As far as I know its not necessarily a requirement anymore, but maybe someone will post more detailed info for you. My buddy Samsgun357 has been on about every build of these JB ROMs you can think of, and has never flash GB bootloader.
On the other hand, I've been flashing around in the JB world, and I flash GB bootloader long ago. It's pretty painless and you only need to do it once. After you have GB bootloader its backward compatible, and so far forward compatible.
It takes about 30 seconds to actually Odin flash and its over. As long as you follow the guide to the letter, and you have a solid connection with Odin, you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
There's a link to the correct thread, if you end up choosing to flash GB bootloader.
Toast6977 said:
As far as I know its not necessarily a requirement anymore, but maybe someone will post more detailed info for you. My buddy Samsgun357 has been on about every build of these JB ROMs you can think of, and has never flash GB bootloader.
On the other hand, I've been flashing around in the JB world, and I flash GB bootloader long ago. It's pretty painless and you only need to do it once. After you have GB bootloader its backward compatible, and so far forward compatible.
It takes about 30 seconds to actually Odin flash and its over. As long as you follow the guide to the letter, and you have a solid connection with Odin, you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
There's a link to the correct thread, if you end up choosing to flash GB bootloader.
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I appreciate all the help you have given me... I wish I could say I'm enjoying my new ROM, but something went wrong (probably I messed up) and now my phone is done. It won't get past the "Vibrant" screen, it won't boot into recovery and to make matters worse, the computer won't recognize the device. Now I have to read threads about bricked phones
Did you flash new bootloader? If you did, you may be unaware that the button combo for download mode, and recovery mode has changed.
Your phone is more than likely not "done".
Try pulling battery and micro SD and sim all out, and now depending on which bootloader you have, hold your button and pop battery in, and plug USB cable in. One fluid swift motion.
We'll get ya straightened out
Toast6977 said:
Did you flash new bootloader? If you did, you may be unaware that the button combo for download mode, and recovery mode has changed.
Your phone is more than likely not "done".
Try pulling battery and micro SD and sim all out, and now depending on which bootloader you have, hold your button and pop battery in, and plug USB cable in. One fluid swift motion.
We'll get ya straightened out
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I didn't flash a new bootloader.
I could get the phone on Download Mode. I opened Odin and loaded the pit & tar files in order to get to stock JFD. COM is on and after hitting Start the first cell says "set partition" but the progress bar is empty. Is not doing anything now but I don't know if its safe to unplug and do it again or try to open Recovery and restore my Nandroid backup instead
Please bear with me
Kiwinopoulos said:
I didn't flash a new bootloader.
I could get the phone on Download Mode. I opened Odin and loaded the pit & tar files in order to get to stock JFD. COM is on and after hitting Start the first cell says "set partition" but the progress bar is empty. Is not doing anything now but I don't know if its safe to unplug and do it again or try to open Recovery and restore my Nandroid backup instead
Please bear with me
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Nevermind... I'm back to stock with Odin. I'll keep on trying until I get it
Thank you for your help!

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