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I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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Devs are making leaps and bounds recently... the list of bugs is just so high, there's a lot of little things to squash - with the addition of pieces of hardware still not being functional.
So have a little patience, and show a little respect. We'll get there eventually - and as always, patches welcome - if you think you've got the talent to fix things fix them and give us patches! Don't sit on the sidelines and ***** about how stuff doesn't work. Doesn't do anyone a damned bit of good.
bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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we are "stable" look at Arrrghs post below
BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes
Originally Posted By: arrrghhh
I was running this bundle for a while and in the begining I did have some issues but that's cause I didnt know crap. but now that I have learned a litle about each bundle and how they work and how to make it run better, I said good bye to windows and hello droid.
I'm testing another bundle and so far its prettty good.
THANKS TO ALL DEVS, ARRRGH PLEASE EXCUSE THOSE WHO COMPLAIN BUT DONT DO ANYTHING TO FIX THINGS. THANKS ARRGH FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND I AM SCREAMING DAMN IT!!!!!
bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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It really depends, partially on usage scenarios. xdandroid FRX05/06 on RHOD300 is close to what many WinMo ROMs achieved in terms of general stability. It's actually better than the old version of Energy I was using (which hung on boot 50% of the time, but would be fine after that.) I'm using the xdandroid source tree myself as my daily phone with lots of success.
Power management issues are getting knocked down pretty fast (major focus right now for the devs, primarily being worked by WisTilt2)
RIL issues are on the way to resolution, thanks to independent efforts by highlandsun and WisTilt2. I'm personally hoping to maybe see WisTilt2 hand off his work to highlandsun so WisTilt2 can resume working the kernel PM stuff
Bluetooth is in progress - sounds like we're close, but it's lower priority. Unfortunately the Bluetooth commits and WisTilt2's latest PM work are conflicting, so there isn't a kernel that includes both the improved PM and the improved BT support. I suspect this will change in a week or two.
GPS - It's functional enough for most people, so currently is very low priority. I've done a little work here since I'm not really qualified to work some of the other stuff. Ideally the GPS will get cleaned up so it doesn't wakelock us (we have an easy workaround for that), and time/loc injection can be implemented for faster locking (This requires a significant reverse engineering effort though - Qualcomm changed the interface enough with newer gpsOne solutions that I don't think we can use the code/documentation from the cyanogenMod and AOSP GIT trees.). Lack of XTRA isn't a priority at all for those running from SD, it's a big issue for NAND though.
The progress made in the last several months has been significant. Back near the beginning of the year I was having to delete my data.img and restore from backups every few days. The latest kernels and system releases have solved a ton of issues.
Bluetooth and ril fixes are all that's needed to make me completely forget about Windows mobile on this phone.
toadlife said:
The progress made in the last several months has been significant. Back near the beginning of the year I was having to delete my data.img and restore from backups every few days. The latest kernels and system releases have solved a ton of issues.
Bluetooth and ril fixes are all that's needed to make me completely forget about Windows mobile on this phone.
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I already forgot about windows. I use droid daily. it's stable enough for me
arrrghhh said:
Devs are making leaps and bounds recently... the list of bugs is just so high, there's a lot of little things to squash - with the addition of pieces of hardware still not being functional.
So have a little patience, and show a little respect. We'll get there eventually - and as always, patches welcome - if you think you've got the talent to fix things fix them and give us patches! Don't sit on the sidelines and ***** about how stuff doesn't work. Doesn't do anyone a damned bit of good.
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Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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bijan588 said:
Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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Yes, there are still bugs out there.
There are two WinMo phones that I'd say have a 'complete' port - HD2 and Vogue. Now I don't think every single feature has been matched, but they're considered stable and almost every feature has been ported over to Android.
I'm on FRX05 with the 3/11 wistilt2 kernal and this thing is heaven. I don't get any lagging unless I run a crap ton of apps at once or try and download a ton of programs off the market at once (that would slow down any phone). I get through the day with about 40% battery still left. Bluetooth isn't completely working but I don't use that. What more are you looking for in terms of stability? Android can be even less buggy/laggy than some Winmo Cookie 2.0 ROMs in my opinion.
Wow, this is pretty impressive.
I'm an old TP2 (VZW) user, got a Droid X in October as a replacement.
I saw a video for the HD2 and figured I'd check out my old phone and see how Android development is going. I've kept my TP2 in case I ever did any world travel, so this is definitely something I'm going to start watching.
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
4) Can someone guide me to the best install guide? I'm considering popping this on to my TP2 and playing around with it (via WiFi).
5) How well does WiFi hotspot work?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
arrrghhh said:
Yes, there are still bugs out there.
There are two WinMo phones that I'd say have a 'complete' port - HD2 and Vogue. Now I don't think every single feature has been matched, but they're considered stable and almost every feature has been ported over to Android.
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Yeah, my wife has the HD2 and *everything* (that I know of) works.
EtherBoo said:
Wow, this is pretty impressive.
I'm an old TP2 (VZW) user, got a Droid X in October as a replacement.
I saw a video for the HD2 and figured I'd check out my old phone and see how Android development is going. I've kept my TP2 in case I ever did any world travel, so this is definitely something I'm going to start watching.
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
4) Can someone guide me to the best install guide? I'm considering popping this on to my TP2 and playing around with it (via WiFi).
5) How well does WiFi hotspot work?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1) All UI elements are large enough that I've never had a need for the stylus in Android. However, since it is a resistive touchscreen, often "fingertip" dragging isn't so hot (single-presses OK, dragging less so) - Fingernails are great for this. I'd say it's about on par with my Huawei S7 in terms of touchability.
2) 3.5mm jack is completely nonfunctional on devices that have it
Headset via ExtUSB is flaky - few people use it so it doesn't get much testing/dev attention
BT is nonfunctional right now, I'd say it's the biggest "missing" item
GPS is usable but has performance issues in terms of initial lock times. Once locked it works great. There are two issues - Ephemeride preloading (XTRA, or in terminology more familiar on the WinMo side, QuickGPS) is not implemented. Fortunately XTRA loading can be done from WinMo prior to booting Android. There's also GPS time/location injection used to "warm start" the GPS - also not implemented.
Camera is a little flaky, but there have been major strides in that in the past month
Power management is still a little flaky, but I think WisTilt2's kernel work is nearly complete
Our RIL has definite known issues, esp. on CDMA phones. WisTilt2 was working it a bit, and highlandsun has made MAJOR improvements in just the past week
bijan588 said:
Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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The HD2 has a pretty close to 100% port of android... the HD2 is even starting to get it's own CM7 build... not a port, a build made specifically for it. I think it was easier porting android to the HD2, though, because there are many similar android devices that use similar hardware. Also the HD2 seemed to have a lot more devs working on the project.
I love my HD2... it's my main phone and will be for at least another 6 months. Currently running WP7 on NAND and running a CM7 build from my SD card, and even running from SD card, it runs about as well as a native android device. It's going to be hard to move on to a new phone when I'm used to being able to run both WP7 and Android.
Anyways, sorry for the HD2 talk in the Rhodium forum. I'm new in this section... just got myself a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 to play with and use as spare phone, so I'll be around these parts more from now on.
Is cotulla still working on magldr for the rhodium? Any recent news on that. Having magldr can make the rhodium much more like a native android phone, especially if he has recovery support.
absolutely, magldr 113 is phenominal on my hd2, i'd never go back to windows again, i've been using frx06 with different highlandsun's ril and arrrghhh's kernel for a few days with verrry few problems. i can't wait to get it on nand and have a clockwork mod system
As to the HD2 - As I understand it, there seems to be far fewer variations between Snapdragon configurations as there were for MSM7k configurations.
As a result, it's a lot easier to target one of the rare non-Android Snapdragons when so many Snapdragons ran Android.
EtherBoo said:
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1 Winmo is much better for fingers. I can not use fingers for soft keyboard on Android. Seem to me that WM has a lot of filtering, that is missing in Android. Using my nails work pretty well though.
7 I recommend you try them all. All of them have issues. Find one you can live with
Many people has had success with Huawei, its pretty easy to install, so I would start with that. Does not work for me though.
FRX05/06 are easy ready-to-go-bundles as well.
EtherBoo said:
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1.) I much prefer androids UI to that of winmo, stylus is needed less but I still use it occasionly . But I didn't use it much in winmo eithar as iv grown good at precise use of the touchscreen But android is still a lot less fiddly
2.)Most of these have already been pointed out but as usual I'm adding in my own personally annoyance Idv3 tags in mp3s are not being read. So you can listen to your music, but album/artist/album art/ and da rest of it won't be seen in most mp3s.
3.) Great progress is being made. . . . .but atm its still reccomended to boot using HARET on sd
6.) Yes afaik the builds are rooted because root is access to /system . . .which seeing as its on the sd card it can be accesed/edited. (Btw can only onfirm for certain that root apps and exploring of root in android in neopeek builds . . . Havnt tried on an xda build as of yet)
7.)well first of all you need to decide wether you want to run a partition(neopeek) build , or a system.ext2 file (xda) build . . . . .you being new id recommend a build here on xda as setup is easier, that does leav you with less choices though but The latest FRX0- build should satify your craving for android . Arrrghhh has made a thread with the build and instructions.
Jandyman said:
2.)Most of these have already been pointed out but as usual I'm adding in my own personally annoyance Idv3 tags in mp3s are not being read. So you can listen to your music, but album/artist/album art/ and da rest of it won't be seen in most mp3s.
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I'd like to address this issue.
I think this is simply an issue with ID3v1 and v2 tags. Have you made sure both tags are populated on your music?
If it's not this issue, then I'm not sure. I've only tried streaming music, haven't tried playing it locally yet...
teemo said:
1 Winmo is much better for fingers. I can not use fingers for soft keyboard on Android. Seem to me that WM has a lot of filtering, that is missing in Android. Using my nails work pretty well though.
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I had this problem too but you can simply fix it by downloading a keyboard app from the market (like 'Gingerbread Keyboard' or 'SwiftKey').
I am using Gingerbread Keyboard and that is working much more exactly than the standard keyboard for me.
One more questi.
Is it possibe to make the browser scroll faster. And less choppy?
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Dear all
I kno most probably 90% of u will mock me, or maybe think ny thread is useless
But I just want to share my point of view anyways
Mozart is a gr8 headset indeed
But if I have the "option" to run Android on it, it would be real perfect phone
WP7 is a very stupid OS so far, maybe it would be better or even the best in the future, but so far it's nothing like Android or even windows mobile
Even if all of you may think that WP7 is the best and there's no need for Android, but could u tell me what if we have an option like multi-boot OS or the ability to choose the desired OS
Won't it be better ??!!
Now I put my Mozart aside
And went back to my HD2
And I'll use my Mozart only as a camera only or mostly for making phone calls only
And I'll enjoy everything else like free apps of android, Citrix clients, file manager, Bluetooth send/receive files, a lot more on Android, till that time I can use the same with my mozart.
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ChIcO*GsM said:
Dear all
And went back to my HD2
And I'll use my Mozart only as a camera only or mostly for making phone calls only
And I'll enjoy everything else like free apps of android, Citrix clients, file manager, Bluetooth send/receive files, a lot more on Android, till that time I can use the same with my mozart.
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Why would we mock you ? I think using a phone to make phone calls is a greeeaat idea !
Jokes aside though, I really wonder why an Android rom isn't out yet.
I mean, HTC 7 Mozart components must be used on some Androphones right ? So it's not because of a lack of drivers... Mmmh.
Working with Android on Sensation XE and WP7 on Mozart. Compared to each other WP7 has got a better usability when you just need basic features (except no direct sync with Outlook and some other small issues). It's much faster on 1 GHz CPU than the fastest custom Android ROM I tried at 1,7 GHz overclocked. I like the way how WP7 links everything to each other.
Android is cool for custom settings, I love the simple USB-Connection, but Sense makes no sense for me! Too slow, not really intuitive when working (I mean working, not playing!), but on the other side Android gives me full control.
Unfortunately til now none of the Android apps gives the possibility of the great WP7 gui - nothing is as smooth and fast like on WP7. I really would like to combine both and to be honest: The more I can do the more I don't really use my phone - I am playing, trying and wasting my time . A basic WP7 installation (configuration) is done within 10-20 mins. also - or especially - for unexperienced users, it is a usuable, but no stupid OS. Some less restrictions (USB-drive, direct Outlook-Sync, better Zune,...) and I would leave Android.
its Obviously clear that wp7 does not have any good app.
what have i done?
Mozart does not support android roms.The phone is great with wp7 .If you like android more than wp7 ,then you should byu another phone.
My Mum got con-ed into Buying a Mozart, she was told it runs HTC Sense.
When we discovered it didnt I was disappointed for her but thought Since I had flashed my HTC Incredible S to RXMix3D Rom I would at least be able to do the same for her and Install a Custom Android Based Rom.
Thanks to this thread I now Know thats not Possible, but its a Sure Shame
Hope if it would be possible one day
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Dunno if i'm being pedantic but:
ChIcO*GsM said:
Dear all
And I'll use my Mozart only as a camera only or mostly for making phone calls
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No offense (because I do love my Mozart) but the camera is the worst feature. The drivers can barely handle the 8MP, the auto focus is really really slow, the settings are really lacking. It doesn't handle itself in the light or the dark, the Xenon flash is far too bright and causes red eye every time.
It's just dreadfull!
As I said, I love my phone and wouldn't trade it for anything, but for me, the camera really is the fail on it.
It is hard to port Android on Mozart. The most difficult problem is RIL ( calls, SMS etc.). Users of HTC Leo (HD 2) are lucky because they got RIL workinng from Desire. Other problems are sound, camera, gps. It is not so hard to boot Android to homescreen but it can not be used in everyday life. The other thing is that MAGLDR from Leo is working on Mozart but not so well as we wish. Android can booted but only command line is working and there is no SD card support.
Ask Cotulla from DFT for more information. I can't post his original reply becaus it is in Russian.
An Android theme and all people complaining will be satisfied.
If you have an Android phone you put and iphone theme
to match free time
I would love a dual boot phone, but if I really want an Android phone I would buy a Desire S
get a custom fully unlocked wp7 rom for your mozart
then you can use file manager, send/recieve files via bluetooth, remap keys, add themes and more
and still benefit from the fast and easy wp7 gui
yes nowadays i started to use it back " a lil "
i posted this thread on JAN 12
now we are 8 months later
ain't that too late !!
actually custom roms are gettin better
bus still think wp7 is nothing like Android
ChIcO*GsM said:
bus still think wp7 is nothing like Android
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It's clearly not and i am glad about that. If you want the android experience get an android device. I like windows phone *because* it is different.
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no problem i don't think anyone would mock you here. i believe every guy chose to join xda-developers is an open-minded person. we respect every one and every point of view.
i personally likes WindowsPhone7 and thinks it will be even better in the coming WP7.8 and WP8. it's nothing like Android or the old Windows Mobile. it opens a new way of using a phone. it's simple, clean and fast. things you NEED to do on a phone are not that much. i think ppl nowadays are more and more treating a phone as a computer. that's not what phones and even smartphones are made for. NOTICE: smartphone - smart, phone. those are the 2 points of it. so smart is in the 1st place.
i remember the slogan of Windows Phone. a phone dedicated to make you free from phones and back to life.
I've been very impressed with the camera on my HTC Amaze (Wind). However, I've been wondering why we don't seem to have the same camera app that's shown in all the reviews around the web. That nifty looking camera app with a ton of features is not present on my phone. Instead it seems to have the old HTC camera app (I think). I was wondering why this is? Did T-Mobile make some sort of deal with HTC that made the app exclusive to their phones or something? If so, is there a way I can get that app on my HTC amaze without rooting?
Thanks!
Hmm.. Yeah. I haven't noticed it until I saw your post but...
The Canadian version of the camera app is different.
I just flashed to Bulletproof, so I don't exactly remember... but I actually think some of the settings are different.
You can watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDLsOw34SUA around the 3:00 minute mark to see what our stock camera looked like.
Now if it was actually a newer/older version or not, I don't know.
syrenz said:
I've been very impressed with the camera on my HTC Amaze (Wind). However, I've been wondering why we don't seem to have the same camera app that's shown in all the reviews around the web. That nifty looking camera app with a ton of features is not present on my phone. Instead it seems to have the old HTC camera app (I think). I was wondering why this is? Did T-Mobile make some sort of deal with HTC that made the app exclusive to their phones or something? If so, is there a way I can get that app on my HTC amaze without rooting?
Thanks!
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ya that's the old camera software, I don't know why you still have that...have you updated the software on your phone to the latest? if not flash a custom rom!!! bulletproof I hear is a good one!
I believe I am up to date. I kind of want to avoid rooting my phone this time around (at least until HTC drops it). I found rooting and ROMing to be a time waster, annoying, and to ultimately provide me little benefit (often actually made things worse) on my old phone (Milestone XT720), so I'm trying to avoid rooting atm (might be different experience on this phone, but still)... Anyway to get that camera app without rooting?
syrenz said:
I believe I am up to date. I kind of want to avoid rooting my phone this time around (at least until HTC drops it). I found rooting and ROMing to be a time waster, annoying, and to ultimately provide me little benefit (often actually made things worse) on my old phone (Milestone XT720), so I'm trying to avoid rooting atm (might be different experience on this phone, but still)... Anyway to get that camera app without rooting?
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I am not sure, you should ask someone more experienced like a developer. you can also call HTC and tell them about this issue!!
You would need to replace the stock app in the system directory and I'm pretty sure you can't do that without root. Having said that, I'm pretty sure you can install another camera app and use that instead...if you really want, try downloading one of the custom roms and pulling the Camera.apk out and installing it.
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Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
NickPDX said:
Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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If you add android (I recommend the unofficial cyanogenmod nightlies, which I use), it won't affect webos at all. That being said, all android ports to the TP are in Alpha, though it runs very well. I would say to go ahead and install android, there's nothing to lose. WebOS is an excellent os, I use it about 50% of the time.
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
NickPDX said:
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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It affected my webos, but only slightly. Just deleted a few apps that I had installed through preware. Don't let this scare you, though, as I believe it was probably user error. Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
IMO, you should do it. My second "android" device was also an hd2, so it seems you have the background and know how to do it. As always, be careful to read as much as possible first. Also, there are a few outdated tutorials floating around (I encountered them when I did my touchpad). If you need a list of the current tuts, I'm sure I or another user can give you the links.
dung8604 said:
Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
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Yes, you end up with WebOs, Android, and a shared data area that is called "sdcard" under Android and visible from a PC.
The WiFi issues can usually be overcome if the WiFi router is yours. If you have to connect to an encrypted WiFi network e.g. at school, that could be an issue.
The range of apps for Android is much wider, including some very nice read along (or read to you) books. But switching to Android means they have to be bought again.
I LOVE the look and feel of WebOS, but I'm a die hard android fan. With wifi being spotty at best on android, I'd stick with WebOS for now. But like the previous posts have said, you can dual boot both OS (just set WebOS to the default in moboot)
wifi fix
There is a "fix" for the wifi. Just install Rohan's Mod. It works beautifully. I don't have any wifi issues at all.
There's another thing that "fixes" the Wifi issue. Set your router to use one of the lower channels - I suggest 1-3, but anything below 6 is good. Then reconnect to it with your Touchpad, and you're good. There's been some issues in the upper channels, mainly with the fact that CM can support up to channel 14, but nothing in North America is legally licensed to use those channels. So set your regulatory domain to 11, your router to a lower channel, and you're golden.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on Web-OS.
They wont lose any apps you can always reboot to web-os
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
Almost about every works expect for the camera and you could always switch back to web-OS and use the camera.
One thing i think you might find a problem is that Android might be to complex for her
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They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
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CM9 (at least Alphas/official nightlies without overclock) is far behind the latest WebOS in term of interface smoothness.
OP, Battery drain is rather big, and if you'd allow it to discharge to 0%, you wouldn't be able to charge it from Android until you reboot to webos (which could be tricky) and charge it some time from there. Camera doesn't work, mic doesn't work, there are some force closes here and there, and even reboots sometimes.
Overall, don't think that current state of TP Android is suitable for non-geek person, and, as i understand, your niece is extremely non-geek. Better stick with WebOS for now, or get ready to explain stuff to her.
Yea Def put android on it. You wont lose webos if she doesnt like android. So you can give the child a choice.
Hi, I switched to At&t and the Htc Titan yesterday due to messing my Sprint Evo3d up. I noticed that windows can not do nearly as much as my Android did. Maybe its just me but I knew a whole bunch of stuff that the evo 3d did, now i can't even Skype and text at the same time without being logged out (I Skype like 14 hours a day with my fiance when I'm gone) I'm debating on just fixing my evo because this phone seems to limited. Can anyone tell me anything cool about this phone? Or should i go back and get the Atrix? I do like the fact this has a pretty awesome keyboard and pretty big screen. And I'm like in the middle of knowing technology stuff (I know the basics and a bit more but am by far not a master, especially on windows lol.) I want to give this phone a chance but I'm disappointed with the market and having to watch like everything through Zune.
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Hi, I switched to At&t and the Htc Titan yesterday due to messing my Sprint Evo3d up. I noticed that windows can not do nearly as much as my Android did. Maybe its just me but I knew a whole bunch of stuff that the evo 3d did, now i can't even Skype and text at the same time without being logged out (I Skype like 14 hours a day with my fiance when I'm gone) I'm debating on just fixing my evo because this phone seems to limited. Can anyone tell me anything cool about this phone? Or should i go back and get the Atrix? I do like the fact this has a pretty awesome keyboard and pretty big screen. And I'm like in the middle of knowing technology stuff (I know the basics and a bit more but am by far not a master, especially on windows lol.) I want to give this phone a chance but I'm disappointed with the market and having to watch like everything through Zune.
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Well first of all, I am going to tell you only a few things here. Other Titan owners can give you the low down on some more things later.
Skype works differently on WP than on Android and iphone. Here is an article why...if you don't understand the article...I will explain it further.
http://www.wpcentral.com/understanding-skype’s-limitations-windows-phone
As for the Titan, personally I like it compared to my previous phones running Android and .. the iphone.
The user interface is much more smoother IMO than the latest and greatest Android phone plus I definitely think the iphone has a dull user interface going on there.
Apps are mostly what everyone complains about when they switch over to WP. However, there are many MANY apps that are third - party that will do the same exact thing as a well-known app on Android/Iphone. For example, (Pandora Radio (no official app on WP) however, we have MetroRadio/WPFandora/RadioControlled that will do the same exact thing. Words With Friends (lol, most people complain about this the most) ...we have Words By Post that will work on Android/Iphone/and WP)
OS Updates/Manufacture Updates-As you know, you are on the most horrid cell phone carrier on the planet when it comes to these. However, I do expect us to receive updates fairly shortly to the latest firmware/and operating system soon. I don't really know if we will get WP8 or not. I don't think Microsoft really knows just yet. -And I cannot give you an expected release date, as ATT does not have a release date yet. But if you wanted to you could push the latest OS yourself manually from your computer. (I am low on time, but if you wanted a link, I could post a link on where/how to do this later).
I will post more later...possibly...
I will disagree verizon was the worst i have used i have at&t and have no complaints
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NikkiBlasphemy said:
Hi, I switched to At&t and the Htc Titan yesterday due to messing my Sprint Evo3d up. I noticed that windows can not do nearly as much as my Android did. Maybe its just me but I knew a whole bunch of stuff that the evo 3d did, now i can't even Skype and text at the same time without being logged out (I Skype like 14 hours a day with my fiance when I'm gone) I'm debating on just fixing my evo because this phone seems to limited. Can anyone tell me anything cool about this phone? Or should i go back and get the Atrix? I do like the fact this has a pretty awesome keyboard and pretty big screen. And I'm like in the middle of knowing technology stuff (I know the basics and a bit more but am by far not a master, especially on windows lol.) I want to give this phone a chance but I'm disappointed with the market and having to watch like everything through Zune.
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Yes, Zune is a bit limited; but the phone works great. I understand that if you had in-depth knowledge of Android you'd like to keep in it; but this OS works great with a lot less hardware; for example HTC one has four cores, to run ICS in a good way, WP are single core only, and they work very smoothly.
I think you should see the videos from one of the replies.
Regards!