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So I'm really confused about this unlocked bootloader thing. Do we have one that will consistently work without breaking 4G or not? When I read the threads it isn't clear at all. Coming from an epic i am not familiar with unlocking bootloaders. I assume we need this to install custom roms?
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Right now, unlocking the bootloader does break 4g.
The boot loader has to be unlocked to rewrite some of the partitions.
Alien Rom has a way to get it back - but honestly never read up on how.
Is there something we can do do...like a mass request to Motorola? ?? Request ing they fork over a unlocked bootloader for us to flash....it shouldnt be that hard for them
I believe thats what is really holding back this phone
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lucidvtec said:
Is there something we can do do...like a mass request to Motorola? ?? Request ing they fork over a unlocked bootloader for us to flash....it shouldnt be that hard for them
I believe thats what is really holding back this phone
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Hasn't really worked in the past. If they release it they will when they feel like it.
It will take some trial and error and some blood sweat and tears but you can have working 4g on the custom rom of your choice. Not that there are many to choose from. I did it with the alien rom using the guides in the development forum. I felt like it was worth it at the time but honestly didn't even use 4g much because it drains the battery so much faster and the phone gets hot. Wifi works with an unlocked bootloader, and wifi doesn't drain the battery. So now i'm leaving the bootloader unlocked using the Homebase ROM with ext3 and overclocked kernel. It's amazing.
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Yay4Jugs is still working on this and thinks he has a way to make it work. In another thread, he was looking for a 64bit computer to make this work, but I think he might have some help now and hopefully he can get it done for us.
Wish i could loan him my rendering machice
Anything we can do to help...i think the bootloader should be top priority ...once that is worked out im sure we will have more devs come in
This phone is a beast..i loved my EVO ..this thing blows it out the water...well almost the same..but a dual core with better radios and screen
..not to mention way better battery life
Let us know how we can help...
I wish kush and calk were over here
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Well this thread definitely answered my question. I was wondering if photon had a nice collection of roms, but I guess the bootloader is not released yet which would be the major reason why developers haven't done anything with this little power house. I had the sensation 4g with tmobile and left tmobile to join the photon lifestyle right before they released the bootloader for the sensation 4g...so I missed the fun there and now I jumped to photon and now I'm on hold for the bootloader again fml. Does anybody have the slightest clue if motorola will be releasing it, cuz if not soon. I might be looking to get the samsung galaxy note, which looks like a monster from outer space with the specs it has. 5.1 inch screen 1.5 dual.core 800x1280 285ppi...omg
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Does anybody have the slightest clue if motorola will be releasing it, cuz if not soon. ...
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That's the million dollar question for us Photon users, isn't it?
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/445861#445861
On the Motorola support forum, one of their employees response to when the Photon's bootloader would be unlocked was, "This isn't solely up to Motorola"
Not that it will hurt, you could go on their support forum and voice your request too. That kind of conduct did prod them to release their source code.
I will get on there and voice it. Thanks they need to release it soon !!!!!!!!!! im pulling out what little hair i have. lmao
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Well this thread definitely answered my question. I was wondering if photon had a nice collection of roms, but I guess the bootloader is not released yet which would be the major reason why developers haven't done anything with this little power house. I had the sensation 4g with tmobile and left tmobile to join the photon lifestyle right before they released the bootloader for the sensation 4g...so I missed the fun there and now I jumped to photon and now I'm on hold for the bootloader again fml. Does anybody have the slightest clue if motorola will be releasing it, cuz if not soon. I might be looking to get the samsung galaxy note, which looks like a monster from outer space with the specs it has. 5.1 inch screen 1.5 dual.core 800x1280 285ppi...omg
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A 5.3 (not 5.1) inch mini-tablet with a stylus is just too big to carry as a phone for me - but a cool device! And probably available sometime late next year.
It is pushing it isnt it? lol. well i think thats the bigest im willing to go, a made a full scale print out down to the last mm. buy looking at the specs and im a graphics designer so i put the print out in my hand with a HD7 behind it to get a feel and it wasnt to bad to be honest. it ways the same as a hd7 (with a ruber protector) but since i do graphics i think thats whats swaying me towards it, so can proof print quality pdfs on the go, for work.
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Hi, after 5 day's of using the Lg Optimus G its in the box and going back to At&t.
Its a fast beautiful phone, but I can't live without ROM's. Wish all of you good luck guy's.
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Hi, after 5 day's of using the Lg Optimus G its in the box and going back to At&t.
Its a fast beautiful phone, but I can't live without ROM's. Wish all of you good luck guy's.
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I don't know if you are paying attention to the development forum but they have clockwork tethered n on the device and they are actively working on an unlock n r very close.
Development is not everything !
NEVER buy a phone for what it 'might' do in the future. Buy it for what it can do now.
If custom roms are important to you, don't get this phone right now. Get an S3 or One X.
If a really good oem experience is OK for you, and root is good enough, then look no further! I think this is an awesome phone.
But until proven otherwise, assume that the bootloader will never be unlocked. It might be, but if that is critical to you, then you should be buying a phone that can do that today.
Each to their own.
Jason
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If custom roms are important to you, don't get this phone right now. Get an S3 or One X.
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Why buy those when the N4 is for sale as I type this note. You will not only get the custom ROM's but the quickest update to the latest releases of Andriod.
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Why buy those when the N4 is for sale as I type this note. You will not only get the custom ROM's but the quickest update to the latest releases of Andriod.
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If only N4 had LTE, then I would jump right on that. In the meantime I'm looking forward to getting my OG, and keeping my fingers crossed for the devs to work their magic. Anyone else feel the same?
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they are actively working on an unlock n r very close.
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Where did you see this?
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Why buy those when the N4 is for sale as I type this note. You will not only get the custom ROM's but the quickest update to the latest releases of Andriod.
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Lte.
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Lte.
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And expandable storage
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This phone is an animal. And even now, the test units for the N4 have been updated with the build that will be on the shipped units and in benchmarks and real world testing it doesn't hold a candle to this phone. That of course poses a couple of questions like why is vanilla android not as fast or faster than the build on the optimus g if the hardware is so similar? And why buy the n4 for faster access to updates if those updates don't bring it up to the same performance level as the Optimus G?
Wireless charging is the only feature I wish we had and hey, I can live without that. So IMO this phone is superior and will be even more so if/when the developers here work there magic and get passes the locked bootloader. So I would suggest sticking around.
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And expandable storage
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While I agree that LTE and expandable storage are important, if lack of sufficient progress towards boot loader unlock, in 5 days, would drive you to return the device, for one that will get customer ROMs, getting an S3 which from what I read is about to lose it's dev support due to Samsung policies (devs are tired of doing inefficient, cumbersome work arounds that shouldn't be necessary) isn't a good option, even if you got LTE everywhere you went and could expand storage to 2 TB. The One x has it's drawbacks too.
Even stock unrooted, this thing is a monster in terms of what I'm seeing it do. I may still trade it in for the One X+ at the end of this week, but if I don't I certainly can't find fault with it yet. If I can survive a Droid Bionic with utter lack of Dev support (for good reasons, obviously), the LG OG will be a snap!
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Even stock unrooted, this thing is a monster in terms of what I'm seeing it do. I may still trade it in for the One X+ at the end of this week, but if I don't I certainly can't find fault with it yet. If I can survive a Droid Bionic with utter lack of Dev support (for good reasons, obviously), the LG OG will be a snap!
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I'm thinking about return the OG also, and possibly getting the One X+ (if it's battery life is decent) or the Nexus 4 (and giving up LTE, not sure though).
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This phone is an animal. And even now, the test units for the N4 have been updated with the build that will be on the shipped units and in benchmarks and real world testing it doesn't hold a candle to this phone. That of course poses a couple of questions like why is vanilla android not as fast or faster than the build on the optimus g if the hardware is so similar? And why buy the n4 for faster access to updates if those updates don't bring it up to the same performance level as the Optimus G?
Wireless charging is the only feature I wish we had and hey, I can live without that. So IMO this phone is superior and will be even more so if/when the developers here work there magic and get passes the locked bootloader. So I would suggest sticking around.
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Also even a stock upgrade to jellybean will give us a large performance boost... I am happy enough with root for now, there is no phone that compares to this one.
Imo with just 8/16 gb storage options , no matter what power it houses n4 is pretty useless ! A couple of hd games and few songs Will fill it up and then how am i supposed to take advantage of those a15 quads !
Yeah, 64gb sd cards win
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I really wish the HTC One X+ had 2GB of RAM, mainly because of the uncertainty of needing 2GB for the next version of Android OS.
Mine may be going back and I just got it today. Mine doesn't want to recognize the SIM
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I really wish the HTC One X+ had 2GB of RAM, mainly because of the uncertainty of needing 2GB for the next version of Android OS.
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The other thing you aren't understanding is the Tegra 3 only supports single channel memory, so that one gig is much slower than our 2gb of dual channel memory.
I think he should send it back. Some else would appreciate this wondrous phone.
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Just curious on what other LGOG users think of the HTC One announced today? I had the international HTC One X and really liked the phone, the camera was leaps and bounds better than the one on the LGOG. The LGOG camera, IMHO, is just ok.
The reason I left the One X for the LGOG was because AT&T lit up LTE in my area just as the LGOG was launched. I didn't hear great things about the One X+ so I went for the LGOG.
NOPE!
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Nope I hate HTC
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From what I've seen there's a quite a few people here who came from the HTC Inspire, which HTC screwed out of an update and have no feelings towards HTC. I happen to be one of those, I'll never buy another HTC phone
Nope,next question........
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Conflicted
I'm really conflicted about it. I really love my LGOG after the N4 Conversion (with fixes, of course) but I also love my sister's HTC One which has a better display, and camera (IMO). I don't know... I'll probably check it out when it comes out but keep my LGOG till my contract ends.
Is it true it's only coming out 4.1.2? Just curious curious and no om enjoying my LG too much!
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The HTC One looks like a great device! But I'll probably wait for my 2 year to finish up. I'm pretty content with the LGOG.
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From what I've seen there's a quite a few people here who came from the HTC Inspire, which HTC screwed out of an update and have no feelings towards HTC. I happen to be one of those, I'll never buy another HTC phone
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This is the main reason my next device will not be HTC.
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From what I've seen there's a quite a few people here who came from the HTC Inspire, which HTC screwed out of an update and have no feelings towards HTC. I happen to be one of those, I'll never buy another HTC phone
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Me too. At least the development was fantastic though.
Nope. I came from the One X (AT&T variant) and while the camera was top notch, the locked bootloader, 2.20 root fiasco and a pretty locked down device isn't worth it. It was also my first HTC device and after experiencing Sense firsthand they can take that crap and shove it. It kills the device and is about as laggy and bad as Motoblur in it's heyday.
Now having vented about it I will say this, the device is still within the family AND that dev community here on XDA is topnotch and first rate. Very helpful to noobs and very, very good at getting the device blazing fast and customized.
HTC is just not for me as far as manufacturers go and I won't ever be owning another one unless it's free.
Man what are we going to buy? I got a moto one time. Everybody swore they would not buy another. So I got a sammy. Burned again. So i thought ok its because I'm not buying flagships. So I got the vivid practically on release day. Worst decision ever. Now I got this phone. Which I happen to love. U know every phone I own eventually got Aosp. I think it just does not happen fast enough for some people.
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Not at all. HTC makes good devices, but there's no guarantee that you will be able to unlock the bootloader, for OS upgrades (I never count on AT&T providing support for the devices that they sell). In addition, the LGOG more than meets my needs for the foreseeable future. Why spend money if I don't see it as a meaningful upgrade.
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Me too. At least the development was fantastic though.
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Yeah the developers made up for it in most ways! They thumbed their nose at htc
This phone only came out in November. Assuming most people got the phone with a 2 year upgrade, people may be tempted but unless they are rich, nobody's going anywhere.
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I'm sure the HTC will be unlocked in a timely manner. HTC regardless will have a bigger following than a non Nexus LG would!
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This phone only came out in November. Assuming most people got the phone with a 2 year upgrade, people may be tempted but unless they are rich, nobody's going anywhere.
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Bah. If you don't mind switching carriers it is easy to break the contract, sell the old phone for most /all of the ETF. So getting new phones isn't really that hard financially - If you are willing to change carriers.
I go back and forth between Verizon and AT&T about yearly...
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Bah. If you don't mind switching carriers it is easy to break the contract, sell the old phone for most /all of the ETF. So getting new phones isn't really that hard financially - If you are willing to change carriers.
I go back and forth between Verizon and AT&T about yearly...
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This is what I do, except I don't always switch between VZW and AT&T. Most of the time I can buy a phone outright keep it for 6 months sell it and buy a new one. It's amazing the deals you can get on eBay and Craigslist. If you do it right, you are out of pocket $200 to $300 a year which is what everyone pays to get a phone on a 2 year contract.
Posssibly. It seems a neat phone, but I will wait for the reviews. I'm getting more and more hiccups and glitches in my OG, and I believe at least 2 are hardware. I hate HTC, but I like metal phones and stereo sound. We'll see.
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I came from HTC evo 3d , rooting , unlocking were fairly easy, it was getting the s-off that was a pain! I don't know if anyone had the "wire trick" fun lol. But after all that I had 4.2 cm10 and man that device screamed!
Now , I have never owned a lg but besides the slow go on development, which is just because the phone is so new and waiting for true jb release to att . I love this phone! Took me a while to get over my flashaholic nature , and with aosp to come out any day I'm excited!
The camera is sketchy, but if your trying to take professional photos, get a real camera in my opinion. Otherwise, I don't think I'll ever look back at HTC ,
Its not about what you know , but who you know.
why did htc one comes in both dev and regular why can just they make one inst that like ripping people off
because the carriers want it locked down because a lot of dumbasses its true mess up their device when installing wrong ROMs and kernels. run to ATT and say the phone doesn't work omg I hate HTC. So ATT exchanges it then finds out the phone was rooted and unlocked and caused by user error.
That is why they release different versions
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This is one of the greatest things HTC could have done, now most people don't have to be stuck with Sense if they don't want to be. It also appears that the 64GB may be At&t exclusive, so the Dev Edition is a lifesaver for some T-Mobile customers.
For its price and what it offers out if the box is great
Plus it makes sense lol because not every customer knows about rooting and stuff. But it would be great if they were able too.
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I fail to see your reasoning. So, you don't want choices?
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Same price yet present unlocked.... Sounds better to me
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See poll above
Unlikely
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I hate polls you can't see them on Tapatalk. But I think it looks like all we will ever have is root.
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Do you guys know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? Honestly, I think it will happen, ive learned a lot just so I can try to help solve this too. The more negative people are about it though the less likely people will be to discuss it or be motivated to do it.
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Realistically the only people "qualified" to answer this question would be a developer working on this. Anything a normal user says is pure speculation.
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I don't mind speculation.
If enough of us wish for it to happen than maybe it will (remember Peter Pan?)
There's a way around everything.
Self fulfilling prophecy theory is lame. Not only is it fake but a lazy way to think. The only ones who can figure it out are the ones trying to hack it. The rest of the people can think whatever they want. They have no impact on it happening or not.
With that said I do not believe this will be unlocked. The beauty of design in this thing limits the amount of roads one can take to attack it. Its never been cracked and its been tried for well over a year spanning multiple devices. We only had a *unlock* because of leaked info. That's it. If that didn't happen we would all have nothing.
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I am optimistic but honestly I will likely be on the next device GN3 or something else long before it happens. Yet I still offered up my money to help motivate those who can get it done.
Odds Key Lime Pie for S4 happens?
As a previous Verizon user, I don't see this being unlocked.. Sorry
Not holding my breath. Anyone like to purchase a brand new GS4? I will never buy another phone before doing some homework. Good luck to those trying.
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The real question isn't will it be unlocked (it won't be). It's will a leaked unlocked bootloader become available.
This is basically bad new for anyone wanting a phone with SDcard support and an unlocked boot loader in the future on VZW or AT&T. Samsung is the only SD option now... And it looks like they've got this boot loader thing locked down (no pun intended), at least when it comes up Qualcomm. If the Note 3 uses an s800, I don't see why the boot loader situation would be any different from the S4 and S4 active...
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Vote with your goddamned wallets!
I hate to also be the voice of reason but the sad reality is that this booting processes is sealed up tight and it's all Verizon's doing. I'm here for my room mate who hates his stock S4 with a passion but absolutely loves my CM10.x+OC S4...I just switched from Sprint to T-Mobile, for networks. I considered Verizon and ATT but having had friends with Verizon phones (Motos especially) over the past few years I knew that it was nearly pointless, save for a leaked engineering/unlocked signed bootloader or 1 chance at an exploit on release-day firmware before it was sealed up tight and likely for good.
It's not that I have no hope, there's always a chance and there is always a way...but with each successive breach of such a system the next iteration becomes exponentially more difficult to overcome.
I stuck with Sprint's haggard network for years because I knew they didn't give phone hackers a hard time. I switched to T-Mobile because I did my research and found the same. HTC capitulated on their new locked and encryption signed bootloaders after the EVO3D debacle a few years back.
As for my new Samsung Galaxy S4? I had my phone for 20 minutes before I flashed a custom recovery and had a CM10.1 nightly running with a custom 2.2ghz OC kernel that comes with tons of governors, tons of IO schedulers...on light use with screen turned down low, OC'd to 135mhz/2.1ghz I can get almost 2 days out of my phone and it is smooth as effing silk like no phone I've ever seen...and I've had no wakelock problems.
This phone screams.
Am I bragging? Sure...but not to hurt your feelings. I'm sick of companies acting like THEY own the computer that YOU bought for YOUR pocket. I'm bragging to enrage you.
Vote with your goddamned wallets. I did when HTC wouldn't unload their bootlockers (lol), and Samsung will forever have my business unless they start that crap too (or their phones start to suck)....same goes for T-Mobile. (Protip: stick to the underdogs. You get far better customer service and far more leeway...when you are #1 and #2 you appear to not need to try anymore and treating your customers like idiot children and criminals is somehow acceptable).
This isn't Samsung's doing...ask any Sprint, T-Mobile or international model owners.
Vote with your goddamned wallets.
I wish the best to you my brethren. Good luck and happy hacking.
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This was a depressing thread
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Lol.
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I wouldn't give out hope. The Droid dna took ages but they finally got it. Sometimes it just takes time. Be patient.
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True, but sometimes the trip the way around is so long, almost nobody will care in the end.